History WellIntentionedExtremist / VisualNovels

25th Sep '16 9:32:11 AM Gosicrystal
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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.

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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'' series (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.
18th May '16 11:07:22 PM ShiroAkuma
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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.

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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.
27th Aug '15 8:46:09 AM Willbyr
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* The Church in ''{{Tsukihime}}'' is portrayed this way. They can't go ''too'' overboard because they're supposed to be secret. The only reason they're not trying to kill Arcueid is because, well, she's essentially unkillable. They gave up. Supplementary materials indicate that they prefer the 'kill the evil non-human, burn the body, and cover up all the evidence' course of action, and ask questions only if they are unable to actually kill said non-human, as in the case with Arcueid, Ciel, or [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Wallachia]].

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* The Church in ''{{Tsukihime}}'' ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' is portrayed this way. They can't go ''too'' overboard because they're supposed to be secret. The only reason they're not trying to kill Arcueid is because, well, she's essentially unkillable. They gave up. Supplementary materials indicate that they prefer the 'kill the evil non-human, burn the body, and cover up all the evidence' course of action, and ask questions only if they are unable to actually kill said non-human, as in the case with Arcueid, Ciel, or [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Wallachia]].



* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.

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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.so.

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24th Jul '15 4:16:07 PM nombretomado
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* The Church in ''{{Tsukihime}}'' is portrayed this way. They can't go ''too'' overboard because they're supposed to be secret. The only reason they're not trying to kill Arcueid is because, well, she's essentially unkillable. They gave up. Supplementary materials indicate that they prefer the 'kill the evil non-human, burn the body, and cover up all the evidence' course of action, and ask questions only if they are unable to actually kill said non-human, as in the case with Arcueid, Ciel, or [[MeltyBlood Wallachia]].

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* The Church in ''{{Tsukihime}}'' is portrayed this way. They can't go ''too'' overboard because they're supposed to be secret. The only reason they're not trying to kill Arcueid is because, well, she's essentially unkillable. They gave up. Supplementary materials indicate that they prefer the 'kill the evil non-human, burn the body, and cover up all the evidence' course of action, and ask questions only if they are unable to actually kill said non-human, as in the case with Arcueid, Ciel, or [[MeltyBlood [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Wallachia]].
10th Apr '14 12:30:00 PM Viira
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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series [NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors & VirtuesLastReward] would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not provented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.

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* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series [NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors (''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' & VirtuesLastReward] ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'') would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not provented prevented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.
9th Apr '14 8:05:34 AM baconsandwich
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** Also from ''Dual Destinies'', we have Aura Blackquill. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred for the legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]

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** Also from ''Dual Destinies'', we have Aura Blackquill. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred for the legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]]]
* [[spoiler:Akane]] from the ''Zero Escape'' series [NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors & VirtuesLastReward] would be considered this from most people's viewpoints. Not really a "villain", yet not a woman of pure gold either, her intentions and goals in the games are for her to [[spoiler:save her own life and save the world from a fatal viral infection]] in '999' and 'VLR' respectively. Good goals, in anyone's book. However her methods for achieving such goals include [[spoiler:kidnapping people, placing bombs into them, forcing them to play deadly games, blowing some people up, and in several alternative histories indirectly having caused and not provented things such as mass-murders, bombs blowing blowing up groups of people, mass-suicides and people having been torn from their loved for decades. Considering that the game runs on the "many worlds theory", basically making every timeline you see something that technically happened to the respective versions of the characters, it means that she was technically responsible for many horrific things]]. Trying to save her own life, and the world, is all well and good but it's one thing to go to THOSE lengths to do so.
28th Feb '14 6:12:23 AM Viira
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* ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney'':

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** Also from ''Dual Destinies'', we have Aura Blackquill. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred of the legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]

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** Also from ''Dual Destinies'', we have Aura Blackquill. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred of for the legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]
12th Jan '14 3:44:31 AM Viira
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** Also from Dual Destinies, we have Aura Blackquil. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]

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** Also from Dual Destinies, ''Dual Destinies'', we have Aura Blackquil. Blackquill. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred of the legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]
24th Dec '13 3:09:44 PM HyperKunoichi
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** Also from Dual Destinies, we have Aura Blackquil. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to EarnAHappyEnding for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]

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** Also from Dual Destinies, we have Aura Blackquil. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to EarnAHappyEnding [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn a happy ending]] for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.]]
24th Dec '13 3:09:09 PM HyperKunoichi
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** ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' has many of the students of Themis Legal Academy, aka '''an entire law school''' become convinced that this path is the best one. This is thanks to the efforts of the defense attorney teacher, Professor Aristotle "The Ends Justifies The" Means. He makes a point to lecture students and protagonists alike that they're in "The Dark Age of The Law" where all lawyers are in danger of dooming their clients or letting criminals roam free if they don't employ his practices. Believe it or not, he's actually [[CoolOldGuy pretty friendly]], his [[TheCynic cynicism aside]]. [[spoiler: He's also a murderer, accepts bribes from students, finds insulting his ideology worse than accusing him of murder, and ''not a pleasant man one bit''.]]

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** ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' has many of the students of Themis Legal Academy, aka '''an entire law school''' become convinced that this path is the best one. This is thanks to the efforts of the defense attorney teacher, Professor Aristotle "The Ends Justifies The" Means. He makes a point to lecture students and protagonists alike that they're in "The Dark Age of The Law" where all lawyers are in danger of dooming their clients or letting criminals roam free if they don't employ his practices. Believe it or not, he's actually [[CoolOldGuy pretty friendly]], his [[TheCynic cynicism aside]]. [[spoiler: He's also a murderer, accepts bribes from students, finds insulting his ideology worse than accusing him of murder, and ''not a pleasant man one bit''.]]
** Also from Dual Destinies, we have Aura Blackquil. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to, and has an intense hatred legal system due to the conviction of her brother, Simon. However, she doesn't actually seem all that bad...[[spoiler: until she takes several visitors to the Space Museum (including Phoenix's own adopted daughter) hostage, and begins threatening them in exchange for Athena Cykes, whom she believes to be the true culprit of the crime her brother was arrested for. All of this was to force a retrial, in hopes that her brother's sentence would be overturned. Especially since his execution was only a day away. Luckily, Phoenix is able to EarnAHappyEnding for both Simon and Athena, and she turns herself in after everything is said and done.
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