History WellIntentionedExtremist / LiveActionTV

27th Aug '16 3:27:09 PM tsstevens
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* Daenerys Targaryen of ''Series/GameOfThrones'' comes across as this. She sees The Iron Throne as belonging to her father and takes command of a barbarian tribe who RapePillageAndBurn with the words, "I swear to you those who would harm you will ''die screaming''." She uses the tribe as well as dragons to free slaves and ally them into her army. Anyone she does not like she kills and takes over. And she intends to not just shift rule to herself, but seeing the other kingdoms as horrible seeks war with them, and has the power and the will to destroy them.
5th Jul '16 5:24:58 AM TheWanderer
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* ''Series/TheWire'': features several.
** Frank Sobotka is a classic WellIntentionedExtremist. Frank's a WorkingClassHero who has spent his entire adult life working in the Baltimore docks, as it's hinted his family has for generations before. And for 30 years, he's seen the docks slowly dying off as the city goes further downhill, as politicians steal from and neglect the workers and the various criminal empires drive people and business away. In desperation to see the people he's worked with for decades have some sort of future and see future generations of Sobotkas be able to make a living working the docks, Frank makes a deal with international criminal mastermind "[[OnlyKnownByTheirNickname The Greek]]" where Frank and the other dock workers will ensure that The Greek's shipments of drugs, prostitutes and stolen goods are safely smuggled through the dock and past customs. With the money earned from doing this, Sobotka doesn't enrich himself, but instead frantically lobbies the city and state politicians into rebuilding and revitalizing the docks, which would not only give new hope to the people working the docks, but would do the city of Baltimore itself a lot of good. As Frank says of himself [[spoiler:as the whole plan is falling apart under police investigation and shortly before The Greek has him murdered]]:
--->I know I was wrong. But in my head, I thought I was wrong for the right reasons.
** In the fifth season, Detectives [[spoiler:[=McNulty=] and Freamon]] go JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope to catch Marlo Stanfield, the most ruthless and murder happy drug kingpin that Baltimore has ever known, who has dozens of murders tied his ambition to rule the entire Baltimore underworld. In the process of hunting Marlo they are forced by circumstances to take actions including falsifying the existence of SerialKiller, altering crime scenes and innocent deaths to make it look like the "killer's" work, kidnapping a barely functional and helpless homeless man to make him look like one of the "killer's" victims, using an illegal wiretap, committing fraud within their own police department, all of which [[SpannerInTheWorks inadvertently also gets in the way of other investigations]]. [[spoiler:[=McNulty=]]] in particular is hit with this, since he's the one actually doing most of the dirty work and his behavior spirals into a self-destructive course. He finally gets hit with a HeelRealization at the end of the season, when he tries to explain and justify his actions to someone who wasn't involved and finds that even he no longer thinks he was in the right.
--->'''[[spoiler:[=McNulty=]]]:''' You start to tell a story, you think you're the hero. And then when you get done talking...
26th Jun '16 7:13:50 PM DevinMeenan
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** Subverted with Holtz. He was an 18th century vampire hunter and had hunted a pre-soul Angel(us) long before the vampire had gained a soul, and after being brought to the 21st century, he sought revenge for Angelus' killing his family and many others he knew. While he certainly saw himself as the good guy, his as a vampire hunter past intentions were good, and had he succeeded, he probably would have gone back into the vampire hunting business (until Buffy killed him). In the present however, it's made crystal-clear that all he cares about is revenge; he disregards Angel's soul and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters is perfectly willing to commit acts just as monstrous as Angelus' in his war against Angel Investigations]].

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** Subverted with Holtz. He was an 18th century vampire hunter and had hunted a pre-soul Angel(us) long before the vampire had gained a soul, and after being brought to the 21st century, he sought revenge for Angelus' killing his family and many others he knew. While he certainly saw himself as the good guy, his past intentions as a vampire hunter past intentions were good, and had he succeeded, he probably would have gone back into the vampire hunting business (until ([[CycleOfRevenge until Buffy killed him).him]]). In the present however, it's made crystal-clear that all he cares about is revenge; he disregards Angel's soul and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters is perfectly willing to commit acts just as monstrous as Angelus' in his war against Angel Investigations]].
26th Jun '16 7:11:21 PM DevinMeenan
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** Holtz as well, although with, of course, relatively smaller stakes. He was always a vampire hunter and had hunted Angel(us) long before the vampire had gained a soul. On the series, he sought revenge for Angelus' killing his family and many others he knew. While he was wrong to take revenge against a souled version of Angelus, he certainly saw himself as the good guy, and, as a vampire hunter in general, his intentions were good. Had he succeeded, he probably would have gone back into the vampire hunting business (until Buffy killed him).
*** Or was he? Angel and Holtz both agree that Angel is culpable for the actions of Angelus, and Angelus' crimes would warrant the death penalty in any jurisdiction that allows it many times over. Angel believes that he can atone for Angelus' crimes in life, Holtz believes he can only do so in death.

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** Holtz as well, although with, of course, relatively smaller stakes. Subverted with Holtz. He was always a an 18th century vampire hunter and had hunted a pre-soul Angel(us) long before the vampire had gained a soul. On soul, and after being brought to the series, 21st century, he sought revenge for Angelus' killing his family and many others he knew. While he was wrong to take revenge against a souled version of Angelus, he certainly saw himself as the good guy, and, his as a vampire hunter in general, his past intentions were good. Had good, and had he succeeded, he probably would have gone back into the vampire hunting business (until Buffy killed him).
him). In the present however, it's made crystal-clear that all he cares about is revenge; he disregards Angel's soul and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters is perfectly willing to commit acts just as monstrous as Angelus' in his war against Angel Investigations]].
*** Or was he? On the other hand, Angel and Holtz both agree that Angel is culpable for the actions of Angelus, and Angelus' crimes would warrant the death penalty in any jurisdiction that allows it many times over. Angel believes that he can atone for Angelus' crimes in life, Holtz believes he can only do so in death.
14th Jun '16 4:10:20 PM weiserthanyou
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** The Changelings built the Dominion and invaded the Alpha Quadrant because it was the only way they could impose their idea of true "order" on the Galaxy. Besides their continuing overreaction to ancient xenophobia and prejudice against them.
12th Jun '16 8:30:09 AM Sapphirea2
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** It could be argued that the Church in the 51st/52nd century is composed of these. Bishop Octavian would be a good example.
*** And by their own lights, the Silence is probably this. It's revealed they were trying to prevent another Time War happening by the Time Lords returning while an army of Monsters is waiting round Trenzalore.

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** It could be argued that the Church of the Papal Mainframe in the 51st/52nd century is composed of these. Bishop Octavian would be a good example.
*** And by their own lights, the Order of the Silence is probably this. It's revealed they were trying to prevent another Time War happening by the Time Lords returning while an army of Monsters monsters is waiting round Trenzalore.


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** The Series 9 finale three-parter reveals that the FinalBoss, [[spoiler: the Time Lords (led by Rassilon)]], are desperate to figure out a prophecy about The Hybrid, which is supposedly a half-Time Lord half-Dalek warrior that may be the universe's ruin. To accomplish this, they arrange for the Doctor to be imprisoned and sadistically tortured until he tells them everything he knows. Alas, on the way to that [[spoiler: Clara Oswald is Killed Off For Real in a Senseless Sacrifice]], which combined with the torture [[SanitySlippage does a number on the Doctor's sanity]]. All he really wants once he's escaped and confronted his enemies is [[spoiler: to have her back and give her a nice safe life]]...but that requires him to become TheUnfettered and violate a fixed point in time, threatening the entirety of space and time. He is convinced to return to his best self, but it means giving up his TragicDream (and more besides).
24th May '16 10:36:57 PM TheCuza
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* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': In the Season 3 finale, in the last moments before their inevitable death, [[spoiler:Hive and Lincoln]] cease fighting, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm realizing there is no longer any point]], and have a polite conversation where [[spoiler:Hive]] laments that he only wanted to make the world a better place. [[spoiler:Lincoln]] believes his claim is a sincere one, despite the two being enemies for half a season as well as all of the evil acts that [[spoiler:Hive]] committed.
10th May '16 10:08:53 PM leelea
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** HRG, who worked both for aforementioned Company (see above), which captured people with special abilities, and with Nathan, who later started a government initiative with a near identical agenda but with the goal of "curing" people of their abilities. [[spoiler: Like Nathan, he protects their super-powered daughter, Claire, from this government initiative and before that, hid her from The Company when she started manifesting her powers.]]

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** HRG, who worked for both for the aforementioned Company (see above), which captured people with special abilities, and with Nathan, who later started a government initiative with a near identical agenda but with the goal of "curing" people of their abilities. [[spoiler: Like Nathan, he protects their super-powered daughter, Claire, from this government initiative and before that, hid her from The Company when she started manifesting her powers.]]
10th May '16 8:52:03 PM leelea
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** And, for the hat trick, "The Hunter", aka Emle Danko: a cold hearted son of a bitch who nevertheless sees himself as in the right, as he feels that the evolved humans are too dangerous to exist. And, given people like Linderman, Arthur, Adam, Sylar, Maury, Candice, Doyle, Flint, and the various others who've appeared in the show and in the graphic novels, it's easy to see how he arrived at this misguided viewpoint.
** Both Angela, who started the Company to protect her people, and Nathan, who started the whole "round them up" program.
** What about Samuel and Claire? Samuel wants to make TheReveal at the cost of normal human life and even at the cost of some specials in order to inspire non-specials into fear so that the special can use this intimidation to live freely in the acknowledgement of their power...While Claire makes TheReveal once Samuel's nasty ways are avoided with no consideration whatosever whether it would actually be better overall...It's an improvement so far as no more effort will be made to hide their powers. Indeed, she even acknowledges what her father said, "People won't change."

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** And, for the hat trick, "The Hunter", aka Emle Emile Danko: a cold hearted son of a bitch who nevertheless sees himself as in the right, as he feels that the evolved humans are too dangerous to exist. And, given people like Linderman, Arthur, Adam, Sylar, Maury, Candice, Doyle, Flint, and the various others who've appeared in the show and in the graphic novels, it's easy to see how he arrived at this misguided viewpoint.
** Both Angela, who started the The Company to protect her people, and Nathan, who started the whole "round them up" program.
up evolved humans" program [[spoiler:but, of course, he made exemptions for himself, his mother Angela, and his daughter, Claire - all of whom are evolved humans.]]
** HRG, who worked both for aforementioned Company (see above), which captured people with special abilities, and with Nathan, who later started a government initiative with a near identical agenda but with the goal of "curing" people of their abilities. [[spoiler: Like Nathan, he protects their super-powered daughter, Claire, from this government initiative and before that, hid her from The Company when she started manifesting her powers.]]
** What about Samuel and Claire? Samuel wants to make TheReveal at the cost of normal human life and even at the cost of some specials in order to inspire non-specials into fear so that the special can use this intimidation to live freely in the acknowledgement of their power...While Claire makes TheReveal once Samuel's nasty ways are avoided with no consideration whatosever whatsoever whether it would actually be better overall...It's an improvement so far as no more effort will be made to hide their powers. Indeed, she even acknowledges what her father said, "People won't change."
2nd Apr '16 10:12:21 PM DevinMeenan
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** [[spoiler:Angel.]] Everything he did as Twilight was apparently to prevent anything like the [[spoiler:Fall of Los Angeles]] from ever happening again.

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** [[spoiler:Angel.]] [[spoiler:Angel himself becomes this in the [[ComicBook/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy Season 8 comic.]]]] Everything he did as Twilight was apparently to prevent anything like the [[spoiler:Fall of Los Angeles]] from ever happening again.
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