History Website / Erowid

29th Apr '16 3:50:20 AM RevolutionStone
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** Many of the neuroleptics/antipsychotics are also this, owing to a few factors: they're absolutely awful drugs to try to get high from taking or if taken by accident and/or by someone who isn't suffering from mania or psychosis, they're often administered to end a bad or undesired experience from other substances, and even in illnesses where they are warranted, too few doctors adhere to "start low, go slow" and often stick with the highest dose possible given in an initial crisis "just in case" a smaller, less side-effect-laden dose would lead to a return of symptoms for someone suffering from Bipolar 1 - even if the lower dose wouldn't result in relapse and would make the person less angry at side effects. The combination of these results in their vaults looking ''very'' negative, mostly because they are written in large part by people sane enough to be ''very'' pissed off with a BaitAndSwitch or with side effects they don't need to have for the drug to work.
10th Aug '15 1:20:10 AM RevolutionStone
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* ApocalypticLog: Quite a few in the personal sense of the term. For some especially tragic ones, look at the "Addiction/Habituation" and "Difficult Experiences" in the cocaine/crack or crystal meth vaults, almost anything listed under "Addiction/Habituation" anywhere, and almost ''every single thing'' in the datura vault.
30th Dec '14 12:38:38 PM HasturHasturHastur
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** The datura vault is also like this. Given how unbelievably hazardous it is to use and how many people report absolutely awful trips from it, it's safe to say that it's basically nothing but trouble.
4th Jul '14 11:38:38 PM RevolutionStone
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** Another case is opiate pain medication for chronic pain - technically, most long-term users of opiates are physically addicted/dependent, but in someone suffering from chronic, severe pain (usually from cancer, but the effects of an injury and some pain syndromes can also qualify), being on the correct dose of pain medication can literally save their life from suicide and keep them from being bedridden or immobile.
** Habitual use of amphetamine stimulants is one of the worst addictions possible - except when it isn't ''technically'' an "addiction," but a doctor-prescribed treatment for adult ADD/ADHD, where, if properly managed, the addictive, dangerous drug in almost all other contexts is the best treatment for the disorder, or narcolepsy, where the use of the drug, if it works, prevents the sudden, overwhelming to the degree of disabling "sleep attacks" the disorder causes. They are also a last-ditch obesity treatment (if ''all'' other pharmaceutical means of reducing appetite or reducing body mass have failed, and the person isn't considering weight loss surgery/isn't a good candidate for it).
12th Dec '13 2:25:23 PM gallium
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* DrugsAreBad: Averted ("Glowing Experiences" and "Health" have some good stories) AND played heartbreakingly straight ("Addiction," "Difficult Experiences," "Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters,") sometimes in the same vault. The entire point of the site is neutral, nuanced information about drugs and substances and plants, so you will see everything from the most positive stories about drugs that are almost universally dangerous (e.g. someone {{squee}}ing over crystal meth) to the most negative rants on drugs that are generally helpful (e.g. someone ranting about how their roomie's psych meds didn't get them high). The best way to use the site is to review the information all neutrally, or, failing that, to assume that a drug with very few positive experiences or where almost all the positive experiences have major warnings may be "bad" for most users.

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* DrugsAreBad: Averted DrugsAreBad / DrugsAreGood: Both the latter ("Glowing Experiences" and "Health" have some good stories) AND played heartbreakingly straight and the former ("Addiction," "Difficult Experiences," "Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters,") sometimes in the same vault. The entire point of the site is neutral, nuanced information about drugs and substances and plants, so you will see everything from the most positive stories about drugs that are almost universally dangerous (e.g. someone {{squee}}ing over crystal meth) to the most negative rants on drugs that are generally helpful (e.g. someone ranting about how their roomie's psych meds didn't get them high). The best way to use the site is to review the information all neutrally, or, failing that, to assume that a drug with very few positive experiences or where almost all the positive experiences have major warnings may be "bad" for most users.
21st Mar '13 12:07:18 AM RevolutionStone
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* HigherUnderstandingThroughDrugs: Some people claim to have had experiences like this. Most common with cannabis, MDMA, and the psychedelics.
* ImmuneToDrugs: Just ''look'' at some of the combinations under "Combinations." And marvel that these people ''lived to coherently write about the experience.''
* IntoxicationEnsues: Some experiences, and usually these end up in the Difficult Experiences or Train Wrecks And Trip Disasters sections.
* MarijuanaIsLSD: This site exists to help avert said misinformation.
** As well as warn people about what marijuana can actually be laced with if it's bought from less scrupulous dealers. K2/"synthetic marijuana" and PCP being some pretty bad "additions" that turn weed from being one of the safest psychoactives into something far more dangerous.
20th Mar '13 11:49:41 PM RevolutionStone
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* AddictionPowered: Some rare stories in "Glowing Experiences" and "Health" actually involve situations where an addiction is actually ''positive'' for the addict.
** Maintenance treatment for an addiction (generally opiate addiction) and the stories about it also qualify. By being able to maintain a stable, safe supply, the addict is empowered to live a life that ''doesn't'' center around the drug and acquiring it.



* ArtisticStimulation: The reports themselves! Some are incredibly well-written (though some are not), and the writing quality and storytelling quality of some people who submit reports is right up there with any published author.
** Many of the people in the reports mention doing artistic and creative activities. There ''is'' a correlation between creativity and substance use on some occasions... even if the creativity is just how to get oneself higher or depict what your experience was.



** In a combination of BaitAndSwitch and BeatBag, there is a substance called "PMA" that is often passed off as MDMA/ecstasy. This substance is ''incredibly dangerous'' because its lethal dose is far closer to its effective dose than actual MDMA, and its effects are barely similar to MDMA, which makes it a very dangerous trap - a user who is unfamiliar with the symptoms of a PMA high may just assume they got cut or low-quality MDMA. So these users take another pill so they can get high (rather than realize they were ripped off and not touch the rest of the pills from that seller/in that lot), which with MDMA would likely ''not'' kill them, but with PMA has a near 50 percent chance of doing so.

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** In a combination of BaitAndSwitch and BeatBag, there is a substance called "PMA" that is often passed off as MDMA/ecstasy. This substance is ''incredibly dangerous'' because its lethal dose is far closer to its effective dose than actual MDMA, and its effects are barely similar to MDMA, which makes it a very dangerous trap - a user who is unfamiliar with the symptoms of a PMA high may just assume they got cut or low-quality MDMA. So these users take another pill so they can get high (rather than realize they were ripped off and not touch the rest of the pills from that seller/in that lot), which with MDMA would likely ''not'' kill them, but with PMA has a near 50 percent chance of doing so. It underscores an important lesson - even if you feel ''no effect'' from a substance, do not take more of it - especially if you are unsure of its actual content.


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* ContemplatingYourHands: Yes, some trip stories actually involve this or similar object contemplation. Tends to be more common with dissociatives and psychedelics, and it can actually be a very enlightening or happy experience to the individual.
* DrFeelgood: The pharmaceutical vaults gain much of their population and popularity because these exist and are a common means of acquiring psychoactive pharmaceuticals.
20th Mar '13 11:36:51 PM RevolutionStone
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* BaitAndSwitch: Due to the less than legal nature of drug use in many locations and the lack of recourse, quite a few dealers/sellers engage in this, and quite a few users end up with less than optimal substances and experiences for this reason.
* BeatBag: Sometimes people get these. Usually results in nothing or, if the substance is dangerous/has worse effects, something in Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters.
** In a combination of BaitAndSwitch and BeatBag, there is a substance called "PMA" that is often passed off as MDMA/ecstasy. This substance is ''incredibly dangerous'' because its lethal dose is far closer to its effective dose than actual MDMA, and its effects are barely similar to MDMA, which makes it a very dangerous trap - a user who is unfamiliar with the symptoms of a PMA high may just assume they got cut or low-quality MDMA. So these users take another pill so they can get high (rather than realize they were ripped off and not touch the rest of the pills from that seller/in that lot), which with MDMA would likely ''not'' kill them, but with PMA has a near 50 percent chance of doing so.
4th Mar '13 10:52:08 AM JIKTV
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* TearJerker: Some of the "Difficult Experiences" and "Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters" stories.
16th Feb '13 9:41:49 AM justanid
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[[http://www.erowid.org Erowid]] is one of the first places to go if you're looking for information about the effects and uses of almost any psychoactive drug (prescription or not, legal, illegal, or anywhere in between) and you want to avoid [[ArtisticLicensePharmacology erroneous depictions]] [[MarijuanaIsLSD of drugs]] [[ScareEmStraight in fiction]]. It is one of the biggest databases of such information on the internet, and most databases contain enough information from enough points of view to provide a well-rounded view of the subject.

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!!This website provides examples of:

* AccentuateTheNegative: [[TheSmokingSection The tobacco vault]]. That said it's for fairly good reason: there ''are'' relatively few people for whom, pre-addiction development, tobacco has any pleasurable psychoactive effect.
* TheAlcoholic: See the alcohol vault for a few stories....
* YouFailPharmacologyForever: Both averted (the research and information, using the site for research, some user accounts) and played straight (some OTHER user accounts, usually resulting in said account being in the "Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters" section.)
* AwesomeByAnalysis: You! No, really, if you go here and look around to understand your viewpoint (whether you think DrugsAreBad or EverybodyMustGetStoned or anything anywhere in between), rather than just mindlessly swallow what the government or your friends tell you, you are awesome.
* ButtMonkey: Some substances, and usually for good reason. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Datura, crystal meth, PMA, and tobacco]] are some of the biggest.
* DrugsAreBad: Averted ("Glowing Experiences" and "Health" have some good stories) AND played heartbreakingly straight ("Addiction," "Difficult Experiences," "Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters,") sometimes in the same vault. The entire point of the site is neutral, nuanced information about drugs and substances and plants, so you will see everything from the most positive stories about drugs that are almost universally dangerous (e.g. someone {{squee}}ing over crystal meth) to the most negative rants on drugs that are generally helpful (e.g. someone ranting about how their roomie's psych meds didn't get them high). The best way to use the site is to review the information all neutrally, or, failing that, to assume that a drug with very few positive experiences or where almost all the positive experiences have major warnings may be "bad" for most users.
* EverybodyMustGetStoned: Cannabis in and of itself is the substance with the most positive experiences, health-related usages, etcetera, and the ''least'' addiction/habituation and train wrecks and trip disasters stories. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], because weed is arguably the safest psychoactive drug with the exception of certain individual health circumstances (such as some heart conditions or a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia).
* OffTheWagon: The "Addiction/Habituation" stories.
* TaughtByExperience: The entire point of having user experiences in every vault.
* TearJerker: Some of the "Difficult Experiences" and "Train Wrecks and Trip Disasters" stories.
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