History Webcomic / WhatBirdsKnow

9th Jan '16 3:07:06 PM LeeM
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Elia and Dores. Probably.]]

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Elia and Dores. Probably.Until they get better. The events of page 970 suggest that Vandi has exchanged her life for theirs.]]



* MindScrew: Everything since they went to the other side of the tower. Made even worse by the fact that we don't know if it's real or just a MushroomSamba. [[spoiler:Although Elia and Dores are definitely dead.]]

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* MindScrew: Everything since they went to the other side of the tower. Made even worse by the fact that we don't know if it's real or just a MushroomSamba. [[spoiler:Although Elia and Dores are definitely dead.dead... until page 963, that is.]]
6th Dec '15 7:17:04 AM LeeM
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* NoAnimalsWereHarmed: The 2015 redesign of the comic's website includes the brief disclaimer: "No birds were harmed during the production of this comic."
17th Nov '15 7:07:00 PM SabineScr1pter
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* TeamMom: Vandi. Dores even points out (rather maliciously) that everyone who realises this can take advantage of it.

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* TeamMom: Vandi. Dores even points out (rather maliciously) that everyone who realises realizes this can take advantage of it.


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*TheHecateSisters: The girls fit the archetype to a T. Vandi is reliable mother, Elia is the cheerful maiden and Dores is the cynical crone.
17th Nov '15 7:01:20 PM SabineScr1pter
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[[caption-width-right:268:"Birds alone have seen it all..."]]



Vandi is the serious and reliable one, forced at an early age to take responsibility for her twin brothers due to her mother's near-death from childbirth. Dores is the artist and dreamer, disillusioned by the greater popularity of her brother, Ian. Elia is the kind, carefree girl, who has a crush on Ian and whose single mother is secretly a prostitute.

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Vandi is the serious and reliable one, forced at an early age to take responsibility for her twin brothers due to her mother's near-death from childbirth. Dores is the artist and dreamer, disillusioned by the greater popularity of her brother, Ian. Elia is the kind, carefree girl, who has a crush on Ian and whose [[spoiler:whose single mother is secretly a prostitute.
prostitute.]]



* AristocratsAreEvil: The original Nin was a prosperous, happy town...then an insane king came to the throne and stripped it of all its riches, handing them out to his rich friends and slaughtering any peasants who dared to protest.

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* AristocratsAreEvil: The original Nin was a prosperous, happy town...then [[spoiler:then an insane king came to the throne and stripped it of all its riches, handing them out to his rich friends and slaughtering any peasants who dared to protest.]]
14th Oct '15 4:08:05 PM FantiSci
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* MysticalPregnancy: The egg-laying is a twisted form of this, and Elia clearly thinks of the resulting goo-creatures as her "babies.". Many of the comic's main themes centre around the same anxiety over the "uncomfortable" aspects of being female that the Mystical Pregnancy is a result of: pregnancy, childbirth, childcare, menstruation, puberty, and sex all cause serious problems for the women who experience them.
14th Oct '15 3:56:11 PM FantiSci
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* AllForNothing: The many compromises and sacrifices the oracles make to placate their vicious and greedy king [[spoiler:up to and including murdering their pet for a spell]] were always futile: they knew that he would always demand more. The problem was that he could easily have had them executed if they refused.



* BlackMagic: Massive magical undertakings require a life to be sacrificed. [[spoiler:When said life isn't happy about being sacrificed, you get malevolent mirror dimensions.]]



* EldritchLocation: The alternate world. Not only is it unsettling, it's actively hostile.



* GeniusLoci: According to the Oracles, [[spoiler:the mirror dimension ''is'' Ermes, the pet bird they sacrificed to make it...which is why it's so ''angry.'']]
* GenkiGirl: Elia transforms into this on the other side of the tower.



* GenkiGirl: Elia transforms into this on the other side of the tower.



* MovingTheGoalposts: The many compromises and sacrifices the oracles make to placate their vicious and greedy king [[spoiler:up to and including murdering their pet for a spell]] were always futile: they knew that he would always demand more. The problem was that he could easily have had them executed if they refused.



* SeriesHiatus: A number, the most recent lasting for most of June and July 2013.


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* ViciousCycle:
** The Mirror World apparently operates like this. The second time it is opened, events similar to the first tragedy begin to play out. The Oracles indicate that this will happen again and again until somebody can put an end to it.
** The Oracles' existence is one on a smaller scale. Their lives are a cycle of being abused for not being able to give the king what he wants, coming up with a solution that will ''get'' him what he wants, being lauded / left alone for a while, then promptly being dragged over the coals again when the kings decides he wants something else (usually because he has squandered whatever they worked so hard to get for him the last time).
14th Oct '15 3:37:21 PM FantiSci
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* AllForNothing: The many compromises and sacrifices the oracles make to placate their vicious and greedy king [[spoiler:up to and including murdering their pet for a spell]] were always futile: they knew that he would always demand more. The problem was that he could easily have had them executed if they refused.



* TheDogWasTheMastermind: Pay attention to the details in important scenes and you'll realise [[spoiler:the birds were, effectively, benevolent spies]].



* [[EvilDetectingDog Evil Detecting Birds]]: Thanks to [[spoiler:their connection to the avian monster that used to be Ermes]], the birds in this world know when Bad Things are going to happen. In the past, three captured songbirds were the first to realise that something was terribly wrong with [[spoiler:the mirror-world gold]].
* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler:The two remaining oracles]] exist in a state of gruesome and helpless immortality.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Vandi]] is called on to make one.
* HoistByTheirOwnPetard: The evil king, Razitan, [[spoiler:is destroyed by the magic he was specifically warned about. The gold he was prepared to murder for turns into his - and Nin's - destruction when it comes alive and creates a monster]].



* LesYay: Vandi and Dores have all the hallmarks of a RomanticTwoGirlFriendship and have been seen [[spoiler: comforting each other naked. No, not [[IThoughtYouMeant that kind of comfort]], actual emotional support for one another...while naked. Circumstances make it much less sexual than it sounds,]] but pretty much the only thing keeping this thing still under the "Yay" label is that the audience has yet to see an onscreen kiss or declaration of love.


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* TitleDrop: 939 pages in, the mystery of the title is solved, and the real significance of the ever-present birds in the comic is revealed. [[spoiler:How can the eerie priestesses talk at length about Vandi and her friends' most painful and intimate secrets? "We know what birds know...The little one on your windowsill that you never noticed? It noticed you."]]
11th Mar '15 7:31:04 PM SabineScr1pter
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26th Dec '13 7:16:08 AM FantiSci
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* AnimalMotifs: Birds, unsurprisingly, have powerful ties to the alternate world. They frequently appear in reaction shots whenever something significant happens in it, flapping and panicking (and, occasionally, dying). And of course, eggs are linked to birds as well. [[spoiler: It turns out that a pet bird's life was sacrificed in order to create it.]]
* AristocratsAreEvil: The original Nin was a prosperous, happy town...then an insane king came to the throne and stripped it of all its riches, handing them out to his rich friends and slaughtering any peasants who dared to protest.



* IJustWantToBeLoved: Elia and Dores' issues basically boil down to this. Dores wants appreciation and recognition from her negligent and judgemental family, while Elia fantasises of creating large, perfect family with the least appropriate man she could find (the womanising Ian). [[spoiler: This desire gets her killed, as she seeks adoration from the same beings that ''eat her alive''. Symbolism, anyone?]]



** Dores, who has become more of a JerkAss[=/=]JerkWithAHeartOfJerk beyond the tower.

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** Dores, who has become more of a JerkAss[=/=]JerkWithAHeartOfJerk beyond the tower. Before that incident, we have seen her in staunch support of her friends (protecting them from bullies) and caring for her grandfather. We also know that she cares enough to be able to paint a tender family portrait of Vandi's clan.



* KidsAreCruel

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* KidsAreCruelKidsAreCruel: The trio met when five-year-old Elia was being picked on for her fatherless status by a group of boys. Dores wades in to defend her, whereupon the boys start bullying ''her'' for her weight. Dores simply punches them, and, predictably, the teacher who has apparently been ignoring the boys' bullying of the girls drags both Eila and Dores off to the school principal...where Vandi is, having just moved into the area.



* [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]]: Vandi.

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* [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]]: Vandi. She has a peculiar "spacing out" episode ''before'' the tower is opened, but after that she's the only one whose less desirable traits aren't amplified on the other side, allowing her to see the mirror world for the dangerous place it is.



* PromotionToParent: Vandi

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* PromotionToParent: VandiVandi. She was left was all the housework and child-raising during her mother's coma, and we never see her father even ''trying'' to lessen the burden on her.



* TeamMom: Vandi

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* TeamMom: VandiVandi. Dores even points out (rather maliciously) that everyone who realises this can take advantage of it.


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* UselessBystanderParent: Dores' dad. While uncaring, he clearly thought that blaming [[spoiler: his father-in-law's death]] on Dores was an overreaction on his wife's part. Mentioning this to her is a token gesture, however, as his wife maintains that she's bad luck, and he doesn't defend her. He simply stands back and lets his wife continue to emotionally torture their daughter.
8th Oct '13 8:13:40 PM LeeM
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''[[http://fribergthorelli.com/wbk/ What Birds Know]]'' is a fantasy webcomic written by Emelie Friberg and Mattias Thorelli, launched in November 2005 and updating weekly (in multiple pages). It follows three teenage girls from the town of Ev-la Nin who become caught in a mysterious and surrealistic adventure in the forest.

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''[[http://fribergthorelli.com/wbk/ What Birds Know]]'' is a fantasy webcomic written by Emelie Friberg and Mattias Thorelli, launched in November 2005 and initially updating weekly (in multiple pages).pages), though the schedule has become less regular. It follows three teenage girls from the town of Ev-la Nin who become caught in a mysterious and surrealistic adventure in the forest.
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