History Webcomic / TheWaterPhoenixKing

23rd Jul '16 9:14:18 PM kome360
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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: The reason why Gurahl ruined everything. First he killed the mass murderers and cultists. Then he killed the rapists and thieves, then he killed the average joe because humans were evil like 50% of the time, and then he decided that nobody was a saint every waking moment of their lives and that was the reason why everybody left had to die. The gods killed him before he could complete his genocide, but he was planning to do so by making a static karma system, Tamantha, which he completed and implemented. Tamantha made hell appear to the innocent when they didn't bow and obey their superiors so that the upper crust could practice "virtuous" ''slaughter''.

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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: The reason why Gurahl ruined everything. First he killed the mass murderers and cultists. Then he killed the rapists and thieves, then he killed the average joe because humans mortals were evil like 50% of the time, and then he decided that nobody was a saint every waking moment of their lives and that was the reason why everybody left had to die. The gods killed him before he could complete his genocide, but he was planning to do so by making a static karma system, Tamantha, which he completed and implemented. Tamantha made hell appear to the innocent when they didn't bow and obey their superiors so that the upper crust could practice "virtuous" ''slaughter''.
23rd Jul '16 9:13:51 PM kome360
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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: The reason why Gurahl ruined everything. First he killed the mass murderers and cultists. Then he killed the rapists and thieves, then he killed the average joe because humans were evil like 50% of the time, and then he decided that nobody was a saint every waking moment of their lives and that was the reason why everybody left had to die. The gods killed him before he could complete his genocide, but he was planning to do so by making a static karma system, which he completed and implemented. Tamantha made hell appear to the innocent when they didn't bow and obey their superiors so that the upper crust could practice "virtuous" 'slaughter'.

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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: The reason why Gurahl ruined everything. First he killed the mass murderers and cultists. Then he killed the rapists and thieves, then he killed the average joe because humans were evil like 50% of the time, and then he decided that nobody was a saint every waking moment of their lives and that was the reason why everybody left had to die. The gods killed him before he could complete his genocide, but he was planning to do so by making a static karma system, Tamantha, which he completed and implemented. Tamantha made hell appear to the innocent when they didn't bow and obey their superiors so that the upper crust could practice "virtuous" 'slaughter'.''slaughter''.
23rd Jul '16 9:13:00 PM kome360
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* LaserGuidedKarma: DECONSTRUCTED. The karma system (known as Tamantha) has a glitchy targeting beam at best and is outright malfunctioning at worst, spawning monsters and natural disasters for oblivious slights made by average people and ultimately causing massive AesopCollateralDamage, which leads more people to commit more crimes out of desperation or suffering, causing the karma punishments to escalate in a vicious cycle leading to the death of an immortal king who was protected by Tamantha, which sets up the grim background of the world-ending plot. Tamantha is also elitist, racist, and sexist because that's how it was programmed by the top god Gurahl, and then ironically HE was killed by the fire goddess Ailari because he murdered her sister Okeshida to finish it. Maresh, who would normally be the hero of a low fantasy story, becomes the villain due to repeated torture for his failings, while Anthem, who is a childish sociopath and KarmaHoudini, ends up becoming a heroine and a revolutionary scholar because she's taught about her failings and how to overcome them by her friends instead of being punished immediately.
11th Jul '16 12:49:15 AM kome360
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* MistakenForServant: Anthem is frequently profiled as her secretary, because of her Vice President Secretary behavior and lack of regal appearance.
19th Feb '16 10:26:12 AM PaulA
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* TreasureMap: In classic ''TreasureIsland'' mode, this doesn't quite work out the way it's supposed to. (It gets hung over the bar -- bloodstains and all -- as a souvenir, afterward.)

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* TreasureMap: In classic ''TreasureIsland'' ''Literature/TreasureIsland'' mode, this doesn't quite work out the way it's supposed to. (It gets hung over the bar -- bloodstains and all -- as a souvenir, afterward.)
2nd Nov '15 1:55:13 AM shadowmanwkp
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Got all that? Either you want to be reading it already, or you need more assurance. We havenít even gotten to the zebra-riding samurai not-orcs, the dragonfly-riding insectile aliens, tortoise-riding traveling salesmen, the [[KillerRobot killer robots]], the ďwar weasel,Ē the teenage [[KnightTemplar aspiring-Templar]] [[ArchEnemy nemesis]] with the {{BFS}} (mace, actually), the sword-vs-death-ray fights, or the cannibal demigods! (This troper was a very hard sell, but after ďI can quit any timeĒ wore thin admitted the inevitable and became volunteer PR staff.) ScienceFiction or {{Fantasy}}? Donít even go there, the answer is, "[[ScienceFantasy Both, of course!]]" The art is semi-realistic, a bit like early medieval miniature illustrations, densely detailed with rough but very expressive pen work and beautifully moody colors, and the story moves quickly.

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Got all that? Either you want to be reading it already, or you need more assurance. We havenít even gotten to the zebra-riding samurai not-orcs, the dragonfly-riding insectile aliens, tortoise-riding traveling salesmen, the [[KillerRobot killer robots]], the ďwar weasel,Ē the teenage [[KnightTemplar aspiring-Templar]] [[ArchEnemy nemesis]] with the {{BFS}} (mace, actually), the sword-vs-death-ray fights, or the cannibal demigods! (This troper was a very hard sell, but after ďI can quit any timeĒ wore thin admitted the inevitable and became volunteer PR staff.) ScienceFiction or {{Fantasy}}? Donít even go there, the answer is, "[[ScienceFantasy Both, of course!]]" The art is semi-realistic, a bit like early medieval miniature illustrations, densely detailed with rough but very expressive pen work and beautifully moody colors, and the story moves quickly.



* AerithAndBob: Averted almost entirely -- this troper has found only one name so far (the aforementioned Ismene) taken untranslated from Earth-Prime, and that could be a deliberate cue.

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* AerithAndBob: Averted almost entirely -- this troper has found only one name so far (the aforementioned Ismene) taken untranslated from Earth-Prime, and that could be a deliberate cue.



* BloodyHilarious: Often, especially in Chapter 1 -- though for this troper, only after the fact.

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* BloodyHilarious: Often, especially in Chapter 1 -- though for this troper, only after the fact.1.



* {{Fanservice}}: Averted, deliberately per the creator. Yes, a comic with a teenage blonde protagonist, several cast regulars who are prostitutes, and an Evil Overlord Wannabe with a harem of [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Blue Space Babes,]] ''doesnít'' focus on T&A or find excuses to spotlight their secondary sexual characteristics. Thatís not to say there arenít instances of nudity and people (not only women) in various states of undress -- the ďMĒ rating isnít just there to be edgy and there are multiple reasons for it, including the occasional brief sex scene -- but itís not done to be titillating, just in a matter-of-fact nod-to-realism way. On the other hand, there is a fair amount of CostumePorn, justified by the real world historical settings the cultures in the story are modeled on or inspired by. (Understated, in fact, compared to the amount of bling found in portrait galleries up through the 18th century.) The detail level of clothing and gear, in this troperís opinion, not only adds considerable visual interest to the pages but makes it easy to keep track of a large cast of characters. Moreover, as Hollywood has long known, historic costume is Hawt! all on its own! (There is also a bit of ContinuityPorn in the costume department, for the attentive reader.)

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* {{Fanservice}}: Averted, deliberately per the creator. Yes, a comic with a teenage blonde protagonist, several cast regulars who are prostitutes, and an Evil Overlord Wannabe with a harem of [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Blue Space Babes,]] ''doesnít'' focus on T&A or find excuses to spotlight their secondary sexual characteristics. Thatís not to say there arenít instances of nudity and people (not only women) in various states of undress -- the ďMĒ rating isnít just there to be edgy and there are multiple reasons for it, including the occasional brief sex scene -- but itís not done to be titillating, just in a matter-of-fact nod-to-realism way. On the other hand, there is a fair amount of CostumePorn, justified by the real world historical settings the cultures in the story are modeled on or inspired by. (Understated, in fact, compared to the amount of bling found in portrait galleries up through the 18th century.) The detail level of clothing and gear, in this troperís opinion, not only adds considerable visual interest to the pages but makes it easy to keep track of a large cast of characters. Moreover, as Hollywood has long known, historic costume is Hawt! all on its own! (There is also a bit of ContinuityPorn in the costume department, for the attentive reader.)



* JustFriends: Averted entirely. This troper finds it impressive how thoroughly it's averted, in fact -- there is never any point at which the bond between dainty, feminine teenaged Anthem and battered, rakish immortal Gilgam even hints at something sexually inappropriate. Their relationship segues back and forth between sensei/student and older/younger siblings conspiring in mischief to the rarer real-life phenomenon of two intergenerational individuals "clicking" as equals, when it could ''so'' easily be filled with the creepy, but -- well, it's ''still'' full of creepiness, but the creepy overtones have to do with their equally casual acceptance of violence and Eldritch Sorcery, and the meddling of the Gods, instead. A prime case in point: the sequence in the second issue when Gilgam manhandles her down to the basement and ''puts her in a time-out until she '''stops threatening to rip someone's throat out with her teeth or call down cthonic retribution from the heavens''' on their enemy''-- who admittedly deserves a comeuppance but the former would be imprudent and the latter overkill for bystanders. [[spoiler: It ends up a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, in a very sad way -- not least because for him to do that, given what she is and has done, is a braver thing than standing down TWO simultaneous armed mobs earlier in the issue]]. Even more impressive in that the aversion isn't done by means of any usual gimmick: Anthem is not a PuritySue too innocently childlike to be thought of "in that way" and Gilgam ''doesn't'' consider [[MayflyDecemberRomance humanity to be an insumountable obstacle]] to romance, either. They really are friends -- no "just" about it.

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* JustFriends: Averted entirely. This troper finds it It's impressive how thoroughly it's averted, in fact -- there is never any point at which the bond between dainty, feminine teenaged Anthem and battered, rakish immortal Gilgam even hints at something sexually inappropriate. Their relationship segues back and forth between sensei/student and older/younger siblings conspiring in mischief to the rarer real-life phenomenon of two intergenerational individuals "clicking" as equals, when it could ''so'' easily be filled with the creepy, but -- well, it's ''still'' full of creepiness, but the creepy overtones have to do with their equally casual acceptance of violence and Eldritch Sorcery, and the meddling of the Gods, instead. A prime case in point: the sequence in the second issue when Gilgam manhandles her down to the basement and ''puts her in a time-out until she '''stops threatening to rip someone's throat out with her teeth or call down cthonic retribution from the heavens''' on their enemy''-- who admittedly deserves a comeuppance but the former would be imprudent and the latter overkill for bystanders. [[spoiler: It ends up a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, in a very sad way -- not least because for him to do that, given what she is and has done, is a braver thing than standing down TWO simultaneous armed mobs earlier in the issue]]. Even more impressive in that the aversion isn't done by means of any usual gimmick: Anthem is not a PuritySue too innocently childlike to be thought of "in that way" and Gilgam ''doesn't'' consider [[MayflyDecemberRomance humanity to be an insumountable obstacle]] to romance, either. They really are friends -- no "just" about it.



* MedievalEuropeanFantasy: Yes ... and not exactly. There ''are'' knights in full plate with swords and shields riding around on big horse-things "covered in curtains", and other trappings indicative of "Western" inspired fantasy -- but it's not ''just'' Northern but also Mediterranean, there are other cultures both on and off the main continent with entirely different sorts of historical inspirations, and purely fantastic otherworldly ones as well. It could be a mess, a horrible "culture collage" of the most random sort, but somehow it's not. This troper finds that the simplest way of explaining it is: Imagine if the Conquistadors had ''allied with'' Tenochtitlan instead, returned to conquer Spain and formed a fusion culture and religion; the Armada had won; and the Stewarts hadn't just claimed "Divine Right" but actual ''divinity'' in their rule of the resulting combined Holy Human Empire, its protectorates and colonies across Europe and much of the Americas. And magic actually ''worked'' the way people still hoped it did in the 16th and 17th centuries, in the age of John Dee and Paracelsus, and the cosmos really was Neoplatonic and inhabited as the ancients believed. Everyone expects the Anglo-Aztec Inquisition -- but that doesn't mean they like it!

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* MedievalEuropeanFantasy: Yes ... and not exactly. There ''are'' knights in full plate with swords and shields riding around on big horse-things "covered in curtains", and other trappings indicative of "Western" inspired fantasy -- but it's not ''just'' Northern but also Mediterranean, there are other cultures both on and off the main continent with entirely different sorts of historical inspirations, and purely fantastic otherworldly ones as well. It could be a mess, a horrible "culture collage" of the most random sort, but somehow it's not. This troper finds that the The simplest way of explaining it is: Imagine if the Conquistadors had ''allied with'' Tenochtitlan instead, returned to conquer Spain and formed a fusion culture and religion; the Armada had won; and the Stewarts hadn't just claimed "Divine Right" but actual ''divinity'' in their rule of the resulting combined Holy Human Empire, its protectorates and colonies across Europe and much of the Americas. And magic actually ''worked'' the way people still hoped it did in the 16th and 17th centuries, in the age of John Dee and Paracelsus, and the cosmos really was Neoplatonic and inhabited as the ancients believed. Everyone expects the Anglo-Aztec Inquisition -- but that doesn't mean they like it!



* RuinsForRuinsSake: Averted, with the history of the realm involving ancient warring nations occupying the region for ages past. (It should be noted that the author lives in a part of the country where [[http://www.primaryresearch.org/stonewalls/schweizer/index.php centuries-old stone walls running through the middle of dense woods]] are [[TruthInTelevision to even be remarked upon.]] This troper has found forgotten basements, gravestones, and wells on hikes in the Northeast, though never containing treasure, unfortunately -- or monsters, fortunately.)

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* RuinsForRuinsSake: Averted, with the history of the realm involving ancient warring nations occupying the region for ages past. (It should be noted that the author lives in a part of the country where [[http://www.primaryresearch.org/stonewalls/schweizer/index.php centuries-old stone walls running through the middle of dense woods]] are [[TruthInTelevision to even be remarked upon.]] This troper has found forgotten basements, gravestones, and wells on hikes in the Northeast, though never containing treasure, unfortunately -- or monsters, fortunately.)]]



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The scale is ''very'' well oiled. This troper feels it weighted towards "Cynicism," but then there are all these surprising Heartwarming moments! Only they tend to come, if not in a welter of gore, at least in situations fraught with and surrounded by, intense violence and brutal cruelty. So...yeah...?

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The scale is ''very'' well oiled. This troper It feels it weighted towards "Cynicism," but then there are all these surprising Heartwarming moments! Only they tend to come, if not in a welter of gore, at least in situations fraught with and surrounded by, intense violence and brutal cruelty. So...yeah...?cruelty.



* WhiteMaskOfDoom: The Forgers of Pain. This troper finds them to be very, ''very'' far down into the UncannyValley due to their puppet-like aspects.

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* WhiteMaskOfDoom: The Forgers of Pain. This troper finds them to be very, ''very'' They're far down into the UncannyValley due to their puppet-like aspects.
7th Oct '15 8:38:14 PM kome360
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** The former Ulenite leader did not condone slavery, even against humans. [[spoiler:And was so horrified at Oxo's genocide on Esgavi that he fled to Anthem to tell her what atrocities his people committed]].

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** The former Ulenite leader Arkame did not condone slavery, even against humans. [[spoiler:And was so horrified at Oxo's genocide on Esgavi that he fled to Anthem ''Anthem'' of all people to tell her what atrocities his people committed]].
3rd Oct '15 12:37:56 PM kome360
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* OffWithHisHead: [[spoiler:How Anthem and her team kill Darumatha]]. And BOY was it a huge neck!
3rd Oct '15 12:35:06 PM kome360
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** Anthem and Vish are a zig-zagged version of this. Sometimes they fight together, but most of the time Vish buffs Anthem with luck enchantments.
3rd Oct '15 12:33:17 PM kome360
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** Thrale may or may not be an example, but it's clear from his mass-murder fetish that the torture drove him insane.

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** Thrale may or may not be an example, example - Ismene's view of Thrale pre-torture is biased and he may have been EvilAllAlong - but it's clear from his mass-murder fetish that the torture drove him insane.
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