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Cry Cute now dewicked


* CryCute: Kasen, Yoshika and Suika all have their moments.
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* AdultFear: Let's see, child left in the woods waiting to die because her mother never came back to get her like promised. ''Yikes.''
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** During Kasen's WorldOfCardboardSpeech, she recounts the impact meeting Yoshika had on her and begins to cry as a result.

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** During Kasen's WorldOfCardboardSpeech, speech, she recounts the impact meeting Yoshika had on her and begins to cry as a result.



* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Kasen gets one as a [[spoiler:ShutUpHannibal moment during her fight with Suika]].

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* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: HeroismMotivationSpeech: Kasen gets one as a [[spoiler:ShutUpHannibal moment during her fight with Suika]].
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-->'''Suika:''' "That's how we oni of the great villainy and great bandits are!"

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-->'''Suika:''' "That's --->'''Suika:''' That's how we oni of the great villainy and great bandits are!"are!



-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[GoOutWithASmile tha...nk...]]"]]

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-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 [[spoiler:1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[GoOutWithASmile tha...nk...]]"]]]]]]



-->'''Seiga:''' "Humans pollute this planet of life, eat and eat and then just leave behind a mess, without ever thinking of the consequences, all whilst growing their number. If the god who created this planet were ever to see it now... to see the humans... Surely, they would get goosebumps, wouldn't they?"

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-->'''Seiga:''' "Humans Humans pollute this planet of life, eat and eat and then just leave behind a mess, without ever thinking of the consequences, all whilst growing their number. If the god who created this planet were ever to see it now... to see the humans... Surely, they would get goosebumps, wouldn't they?"they?



-->'''Seiga:''' "I'll blow some life into you then, just like I said. [[BlatantLies From there, you'll be free to do as you like.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis That is. If. You. Can. Move. On. Your. Own.]] Well then, go ahead, defy me... with that rotten brain and body of yours..."

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-->'''Seiga:''' "I'll I'll blow some life into you then, just like I said. [[BlatantLies From there, you'll be free to do as you like.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis That is. If. You. Can. Move. On. Your. Own.]] Well then, go ahead, defy me... with that rotten brain and body of yours..."



* RRatedOpening: Oh hey, a funny rock paper scissors match reinterpreted as a fistfight! This seems like a pretty comical- ''[[MoodWhiplash why is there a child starving to death?]]''

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* RRatedOpening: Oh hey, a funny rock paper scissors match reinterpreted as a fistfight! This seems like a pretty comical- comical-- ''[[MoodWhiplash why is there a child starving to death?]]''



-->'''Kasen:''' [[spoiler:"A Hermit is someone who shows salvation through the Way of Heaven... That girl... healed the wounds I had when I was still human. No doubt, Yoshika was my "Hermit". Is it painful? I... I was saved a long, long time ago! Neither will I throw away the Hermit thing nor my promise. [[{{Determinator}} I will not betray that girl!]]"]]

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-->'''Kasen:''' [[spoiler:"A [[spoiler:A Hermit is someone who shows salvation through the Way of Heaven... That girl... healed the wounds I had when I was still human. No doubt, Yoshika was my "Hermit". Is it painful? I... I was saved a long, long time ago! Neither will I throw away the Hermit thing nor my promise. [[{{Determinator}} I will not betray that girl!]]"]]girl!]]]]
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''Suikakasen'' is a FilmComic based on Franchise/{{Touhou}} created by Joyful (ジョイフル氏 ) of Website/NicoNicoDouga, also known for creating Fanfic/OsanaReimu. While some elements have become victim to OutdatedByCanon, it generally sticks close to the information provided or implied by official Franchise/{{Touhou}} materials. It takes inspiration from various games, but it provides most of its credit to Manga/TouhouIbarakasenWildAndHornedHermit. It is based on a previous collaboration between Joyful and the doujin group Liz Triangle, a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7erJX53g790 PV]] called ''Immortal Philosophy''. It was published in 2017 in the blu-ray 「RED」 as one of Liz Triangle's last works before their disbandment.

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''Suikakasen'' is a FilmComic based on Franchise/{{Touhou}} ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' created by Joyful (ジョイフル氏 ) of Website/NicoNicoDouga, also known for creating Fanfic/OsanaReimu. While some elements have become victim to OutdatedByCanon, it generally sticks close to the information provided or implied by official Franchise/{{Touhou}} ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' materials. It takes inspiration from various games, but it provides most of its credit to Manga/TouhouIbarakasenWildAndHornedHermit.''Manga/TouhouIbarakasenWildAndHornedHermit''. It is based on a previous collaboration between Joyful and the doujin group Liz Triangle, a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7erJX53g790 PV]] called ''Immortal Philosophy''. It was published in 2017 in the blu-ray 「RED」 as one of Liz Triangle's last works before their disbandment.



Since this is the creator of Fanfic/OsanaReimu, [[TearJerker have some tissues handy]].

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Since this is the creator of Fanfic/OsanaReimu, ''Fanfic/OsanaReimu'', [[TearJerker have some tissues handy]].

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* RealityEnsues:
** Kan Kaku [[LoveAtFirstSight fell in love with Seiga at once and told her as such.]] Seiga on the other hand is rather upset about a man breaking into her house and sleeping beside her.
** In contrast to the various magical items in the story, Seiga's Tan'yaku (Philosopher's Stone) is treated exactly like what it really is: [[spoiler:Not as a magic drug, but as mercury sulfide poison]].


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* SuddenlyObviousFakery: Episode 3 has Seiga summon a copy of herself to chop up its own arm to emphasize a HumansAreBastards point she's making to Yoshika. After finishing talking, she reveals that (among other things) the copy is just a puppet, and its elbows and wrists gain obvious doll joints not visible in the previous shots of its seemingly-organic arms.

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** Yoshika is introduced creating a poem, and then witnesses Kasen. She mistakes the oni for a hermit and [[GenkiGirl gets very excited]]. Once Kasen calls Kume, she looks in admiration until she sees that she is trying to escape, upon which she tackles Kasen to knock her out of the air and then ties her to a tree to ensure that she can hear her pleas to want to become a hermit. Yoshika is friendly and admires the lifestyles of hermits, and [[{{Determinator}} will do anything to become one herself]].

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** Yoshika is introduced creating a poem, and then witnesses Kasen. She mistakes the oni for a hermit and [[GenkiGirl gets very excited]]. Once Kasen calls Kume, her pet giant eagle, she looks in admiration until she sees that she is trying to escape, upon which she tackles Kasen to knock her out of the air and then ties her to a tree to ensure that she can hear her pleas to want to become a hermit. Yoshika is friendly and admires the lifestyles of hermits, and [[{{Determinator}} will do anything to become one herself]].


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* WarIsHell: The end of episode 3 has Seiga and Yoshika witness a warzone. [[{{Gorn}} It's not a pretty sight.]]
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* CerebusRollercoaster: The series shifts from lighthearted to dramatic just like that.

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* CerebusRollercoaster: The series shifts from lighthearted to dramatic just like that. The first episode alone shifts between a humorous scene of Suika and Yuugi having a wild party in which they have a fistfight as a way of playing rock paper scissors to a sad scene of child Kasen starving to death before shifting back to the party.



-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[GoOutWithASmile tha...nk...]]]]

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-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[GoOutWithASmile tha...nk...]]]]]]"]]



* MoodWhiplash: Constantly. Things can go from lighthearted and comical to sad and creepy in an instant.

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* MoodWhiplash: Constantly.Constantly, thanks to the series being a CerebusRollercoaster. Things can go from lighthearted and comical to sad and creepy in an instant.
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-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[KilledMidSentence tha...nk...]]]]

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-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[KilledMidSentence [[GoOutWithASmile tha...nk...]]]]
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: During their fight, Kasen manages to leave her opponent frozen in shock by asking [[spoiler:Suika how she knew that the Box of a Hundred Medicines would turn her into an oni, which leads to her asking when Suika became an oni]].


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* PetTheDog: [[spoiler:Seiga decides to let Yoshika spend her remaining time together with Kasen, and even cries TearsOfJoy at the sight of their reunion. Suika is surprised considering how Seiga is the one who killed Yoshika to begin with.]]
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* AnimationBump: The majority of the series is told through still images with LimitedAnimation at best, but [[spoiler:Kasen's finishing blow against Suika]] uses many more frames than the rest of the animated segments and even features MouthFlaps.

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* AnimationBump: The majority of the series is told through still images with LimitedAnimation at best, but [[spoiler:Kasen's Kasen's finishing blow against Suika]] uses many more frames than the rest of the animated segments [[spoiler:Suika]] fully animates her UnnecessaryCombatRoll and even features MouthFlaps.preparation to punch, complete with MouthFlaps to go along with her dialogue.
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* AscendedFridgeHorror: One of the plot points of the series is the question of "how does Kasen know that the Ibaraki Box of a Hundred Medicines will turn humans into oni?" The first episode shows that Kasen was a former human who would have starved to death if Suika hadn't given the Box to her and turned her into an oni. [[spoiler:And that ''too'' brings up more horror about how Suika knew that it would turn Kasen into an oni, which also gets answered when Suika admits that she was also an abandoned child who had to drink from the Box and become an oni.]]
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* EstablishingSeriesMoment: The first episode begins with a rather lighthearted and comical fistfight between Yuugi and Suika as their way of playing rock paper scissors... and then cuts to a flashback of child Kasen starving to death with all of the sadness and angst that comes with such a scene. One hell of a CerebusRollercoaster coming up!


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* RRatedOpening: Oh hey, a funny rock paper scissors match reinterpreted as a fistfight! This seems like a pretty comical- ''[[MoodWhiplash why is there a child starving to death?]]''


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* ShutUpHannibal: Kasen does this multiple times during the final battle, ending with her shouting at [[spoiler:Suika]] to give up before giving a powerful punch to her foe.


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* TearfulSmile: Yoshika runs of to cry alone after being rejected by the reikon, and Seiga finds her and admits that there isn't any hope left for her. Yoshika tells her that she's wrong and begins to recount her promise with Kasen, and is smiling by the time she's finished.
* TearsOfJoy:
** After Kasen and Yoshika's MilhollandRelationshipMoment, Kasen begins to cry and says that Yoshika is "too nice for [her] own good".
** A rather twisted example occurs with Seiga in episode 3. At first it appears that she is crying TearsOfRemorse, but then [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk it turns out]] that she is crying happy tears [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor because she finds it hilarious that]] [[spoiler:Yoshika has died]].
** During Kasen's WorldOfCardboardSpeech, she recounts the impact meeting Yoshika had on her and begins to cry as a result.
** [[spoiler:Constantly during the BigDamnReunion. First Kasen begins to cry after seeing Yoshika again, then Yoshika begins to cry after getting her memories back and from being able to see Kasen again, and then Seiga (of all people) begins to cry at the sight of their reunion.]]
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''Suikakasen'' is a FilmComic created by Joyful (ジョイフル氏 ) of Website/NicoNicoDouga, also known for creating Fanfic/OsanaReimu. While some elements have become victim to OutdatedByCanon, it generally sticks close to the information provided or implied by official Franchise/{{Touhou}} materials. It takes inspiration from various games, but it provides most of its credit to Manga/TouhouIbarakasenWildAndHornedHermit. It is based on a previous collaboration between Joyful and the doujin group Liz Triangle, a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7erJX53g790 PV]] called ''Immortal Philosophy''. It was published in 2017 in the blu-ray 「RED」 as one of Liz Triangle's last works before their disbandment.

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''Suikakasen'' is a FilmComic based on Franchise/{{Touhou}} created by Joyful (ジョイフル氏 ) of Website/NicoNicoDouga, also known for creating Fanfic/OsanaReimu. While some elements have become victim to OutdatedByCanon, it generally sticks close to the information provided or implied by official Franchise/{{Touhou}} materials. It takes inspiration from various games, but it provides most of its credit to Manga/TouhouIbarakasenWildAndHornedHermit. It is based on a previous collaboration between Joyful and the doujin group Liz Triangle, a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7erJX53g790 PV]] called ''Immortal Philosophy''. It was published in 2017 in the blu-ray 「RED」 as one of Liz Triangle's last works before their disbandment.
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* HumanSacrifice: The CreativeClosingCredits of the final episode tell us a story titled the same as the trope name. [[spoiler:A terrible storm arrived and the members of a village blamed an [[CreepyChild "eerie child"]] (who is child Kasen) because they thought that she had upset the water god with her presence. They could not find Kasen because her mother had hidden her in the woods, so they decided to sacrifice the women who gave birth to her instead.]]

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* HumanSacrifice: The CreativeClosingCredits of the final episode tell us a story titled the same as the trope name. [[spoiler:A terrible storm arrived and the members of a village blamed an [[CreepyChild "eerie child"]] (who is child Kasen) because they thought that she had upset the water god with her presence. They could not find Kasen because her mother had hidden her in the woods, so they decided to sacrifice the women woman who gave birth to her instead.]]
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* HumanSacrifice: The CreativeClosingCredits of the final episode tell us a story titled the same as the trope name. [[spoiler:A terrible storm arrived and the members of a village blamed an [[CreepyChild "eerie child"]] (who is child Kasen) because they thought that she had upset the water god with her presence. They could not find Kasen because her mother had hidden her in the woods, so they decided to sacrifice the women who gave birth to her instead.]]
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** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), [[NotSoAboveItAll she happily approves and watches the fight]]. Her first scene after the TimeSkip to her adulthood has a short period of her thinking back to past events with EmptyEyes to display that she's grown out of her energetic CheerfulChild self and then indulge and join in on a poem Yoshika is making to show that her more peaceful side has taken over. Still, Kasen is shown to not yet be quite like her present-day self as she immediately tries to run away once Yoshika asks for assistance compared to [[CompassionateCritic how she usually is]].

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** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), [[NotSoAboveItAll she happily approves and watches the fight]]. Her first scene after the TimeSkip to her adulthood has a short period of her thinking back to past events with EmptyEyes DullEyesOfUnhappiness to display that she's grown out of her energetic CheerfulChild self and then indulge and join in on a poem Yoshika is making to show that her more peaceful side has taken over. Still, Kasen is shown to not yet be quite like her present-day self as she immediately tries to run away once Yoshika asks for assistance compared to [[CompassionateCritic how she usually is]].

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* {{Deuteragonist}}: Yoshika is the second most important character in the series.



** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), [[NotSoAboveItAll she happily approves and watches the fight]]. Her first scene after the TimeSkip to her adulthood has a short period of her thinking back to past events with EmptyEyes to display that she's grown out of her energetic CheerfulChild self and then indulge and join in on a poem Yoshika is making to show that her more peaceful side has taken over. Still, she's shown to not yet be quite like her present-day self as she immediately tries to run away once Yoshika asks for assistance compared to [[CompassionateCritic how Kasen usually is]].

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** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), [[NotSoAboveItAll she happily approves and watches the fight]]. Her first scene after the TimeSkip to her adulthood has a short period of her thinking back to past events with EmptyEyes to display that she's grown out of her energetic CheerfulChild self and then indulge and join in on a poem Yoshika is making to show that her more peaceful side has taken over. Still, she's Kasen is shown to not yet be quite like her present-day self as she immediately tries to run away once Yoshika asks for assistance compared to [[CompassionateCritic how Kasen she usually is]].



* TheFaceless: The reikon is only seen as a blue silhouette without any detail to make out.



** Everything about Kan Kaku in the story revolves around his relationship with Seiga, mostly serving [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as her humanization]].

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** Everything about Kan Kaku in the story revolves around his relationship with Seiga, mostly serving [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as her humanization]].



* SmallRoleBigImpact: The reikon appears for less than a minute without any dialogue or [[TheFaceless so much as a glimpse of what he really looks like]], but his one scene pretty much sets Yoshika's ForegoneConclusion in motion.



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:While the reikon probably didn't have any ill intent, him not letting Yoshika become a hermit is what ultimately leads to her death.]]
* UnwittingMuggleFriend: The human Yoshika mistakes the oni Kasen for a hermit who can teach her how to become a hermit herself. Although Kasen tells her that she isn't a hermit, she doesn't reveal who she really is and plays along until her HeelRealization when she confesses that she is an oni.

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:While the reikon probably didn't have any ill intent, WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Kan Kaku's current whereabouts are not stated, [[spoiler:as him not letting Yoshika become becoming a hermit is what ultimately leads to her death.]]
* UnwittingMuggleFriend: The human Yoshika mistakes the oni Kasen for a hermit who can teach her how to become a hermit herself. Although Kasen tells her
makes it unlikely that she isn't a hermit, she doesn't reveal who she really is and plays along until her HeelRealization when she confesses that she is an oni.he died of natural causes]].

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* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: Yoshika's reasoning for not getting upset at Kasen for using her is that she enjoyed the time they spent together.



* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: After Kasen confesses to Yoshika that she is an oni who was using her to get the information needed to get past the barrier, Yoshika [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan shoves several peaches into her mouth]] before asking her to stop apologizing because Kasen still gave her happiness and that she wants them both to live together as hermits.

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* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: After Kasen confesses to Yoshika that she is an oni who was using her to get the information needed to get past the barrier, Yoshika [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan shoves several peaches into her mouth]] before asking her to stop apologizing because [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Kasen still gave her happiness happiness]] and that she wants them both to live together as hermits.

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** Both characters are this compared to the ''Immortal Philosophy'' PV, which focused solely on them bonding [[spoiler:and their reunion]] with many of the more darker aspects of this series not present.



* DarkerAndEdgier: While still relatively optimistic with plenty of lighthearted moments, compared to ''Manga/TouhouIbarakasenWildAndHornedHermit'', ''Suikakasen'' is more violent and deals with themes of death and loss that even said manga's CerebusSyndrome from chapters published after this series was released didn't touch. It's also this compared to the ''Immortal Philosophy'' PV, as most of Kasen and Yoshika's angst was not present and [[spoiler:it features an unambiguously-happy ending compared to the BittersweetEnding of this series]].



* DefrostingIceQueen: Kasen goes from a bandit intent on throwing away her humanity to the hermit she is in the present day after meeting Yoshika.

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* DefrostingIceQueen: Kasen goes from a bandit intent on throwing away her humanity to the friendly hermit she is in the present day after meeting Yoshika.



* DoomedByCanon: Yoshika's goal to become a hermit is not going to go well. [[ReforgedIntoAMinion Quite the opposite in fact.]]



** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), she happily approves and watches the fight. Note that Kasen is the only one in the area who isn't panicking about all of the destruction the match causes.

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** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), [[NotSoAboveItAll she happily approves and watches the fight. Note fight]]. Her first scene after the TimeSkip to her adulthood has a short period of her thinking back to past events with EmptyEyes to display that she's grown out of her energetic CheerfulChild self and then indulge and join in on a poem Yoshika is making to show that her more peaceful side has taken over. Still, she's shown to not yet be quite like her present-day self as she immediately tries to run away once Yoshika asks for assistance compared to [[CompassionateCritic how Kasen is the only one in the area who isn't panicking about all of the destruction the match causes.usually is]].


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* TheFaceless: The reikon is only seen as a blue silhouette without any detail to make out.


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* OCStandIn: Yoshika more or less has an original personality in this series, as her time in canon is always spent as a mindless jiang shi while she is a human during most of her scenes here.


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* SmallRoleBigImpact: The reikon appears for less than a minute without any dialogue or [[TheFaceless so much as a glimpse of what he really looks like]], but his one scene pretty much sets Yoshika's ForegoneConclusion in motion.


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:While the reikon probably didn't have any ill intent, him not letting Yoshika become a hermit is what ultimately leads to her death.]]

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* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: Compared to Kasen in canon, she has to deal with ParentalAbandonment, suffers from LossOfIdentity, and goes through enough emotional pain to cry when she has yet to cry in an official work.

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** This series shows Yoshika from before she became Seiga's SoullessShell servant, and deals with aspects that she can't think about in canon like [[MortalityPhobia a fear of death]] and [[spoiler:the sickness that is killing her]].



* BrokenBird: Part of Kasen's AdaptationalAngstUpgrade. She opens up more after meeting Yoshika, however.

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* BrokenBird: Part of Kasen's AdaptationalAngstUpgrade. She opens AdaptationalAngstUpgrade is that she tries to throw away all aspects of her life as a human and keep mostly to herself, to the point where her first scene with Yoshika has her trying to run away once the poet takes interest in her until she realizes that she won't be able to retrieve her arm without help. In fact, once Kasen realizes that [[DefrostingIceQueen she is opening up more after meeting Yoshika, however.while spending time with Yoshika]], she doesn't take it too well.



* GoodTimesMontage: We see most of Kasen and Yoshika's bonding through one.

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* GoodTimesMontage: We see most of Kasen and Yoshika's bonding through one.one, displaying their hermit training and them partaking in several leisure activities all while [[DefrostingIceQueen Kasen slowly begins to open up more to her new friend]].



* AMinorKidroduction: The first episode shows Kasen as a child before the first TimeSkip in the next episode where she is an adult.



* RealityEnsues: Kan Kaku [[LoveAtFirstSight fell in love with Seiga at once and told her as such.]] Seiga on the other hand is rather upset about a man breaking into her house and sleeping beside her.

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** In contrast to the various magical items in the story, Seiga's Tan'yaku (Philosopher's Stone) is treated exactly like what it really is: [[spoiler:Not as a magic drug, but as mercury sulfide poison]].



* SecondEpisodeIntroduction: {{Deuteragonist}} Yoshika makes her debut in episode 2.

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* SecondEpisodeIntroduction: {{Deuteragonist}} Yoshika makes her debut in episode 2.2, as does [[spoiler:Seiga]].


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-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika:]]''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth... Ka... se... n... [[KilledMidSentence tha...nk...]]]]

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-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika:]]''' -->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika]]:''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... [[ItsTheJourneyThatCounts What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth...seemeth]]... Ka... se... n... [[KilledMidSentence tha...nk...]]]]



* GetAHoldOfYourselfMan: Before Yoshika tells Kasen that she holds no hard feelings about her using her, she shoves a bunch of peaches into her mouth.



* HeelRealization: Yoshika makes it clear how much she [[MortalityPhobia fears her own death when she's alone]] and indirectly causes Kasen to realize that she toyed with her emotions.

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* HeelRealization: Yoshika makes it clear how much she [[MortalityPhobia fears her own death when she's alone]] and [[ObliviousGuiltSlinging indirectly causes Kasen to realize that she toyed with her emotions.emotions]].



* ItsTheJourneyThatCounts: [[spoiler:Yoshika's FinalSpeech has her realize that gaining immortality wasn't what was important, but rather spending time together with Kasen.]]



* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: After Kasen confesses to Yoshika that she is an oni who was using her to get the information needed to get past the barrier, Yoshika [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan shoves several peaches into her mouth]] before asking her to stop apologizing because Kasen still gave her happiness and that she wants them both to live together as hermits.



* MoralityPet: Kasen wasn't exactly evil before she met Yoshika, but she was part of a group of bandits. Once Kasen realizes that this trope is in action, she attempts to kill Yoshika so that she can get rid of the last traces of her humanity. She stops once Yoshika (who's completely unaware of Kasen's intentions by this point) makes it clear [[MortalityPhobia how much she fears her own death]] and Kasen [[HeelRealization realizes how much she toyed with Yoshika's emotions]].

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* MoralityPet: Kasen wasn't exactly evil before she met Yoshika, but she was part of a group of bandits. Once Kasen realizes that this trope is in action, she attempts to kill Yoshika so that she can get rid of the last traces of her humanity. She stops once Yoshika (who's ([[ObliviousGuiltSlinging who's completely unaware of Kasen's intentions by this point) point]]) makes it clear [[MortalityPhobia how much she fears her own death]] and Kasen [[HeelRealization realizes how much she toyed with Yoshika's emotions]].


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* ObliviousGuiltSlinging: Kasen attempts to kill Yoshika after gathering all of the information she needs to pass the Rajoumon barrier, but stops moments before dealing the killing blow because Yoshika tells her that meeting her was a wonderful experience and that [[MortalityPhobia she keeps thinking about and fearing the day of her death whenever they are apart]]. She then has a HeelRealization and a change of plans.


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* WimpFight: Played with for the second half of [[spoiler:Kasen and Suika]]'s battle, as both characters are very skilled fighters, but the former's plan got both of them ([[GoneHorriblyRight there was a self-admitted miscalculation]]) so drunk that they lose all of their coordination until the finishing blows.

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** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] [[CharacterDevelopment yet]] by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), she happily approves and watches the fight. Note that Kasen is the only one in the area who isn't panicking about all of the destruction the match causes.

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** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] [[CharacterDevelopment yet]] yet by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), she happily approves and watches the fight. Note that Kasen is the only one in the area who isn't panicking about all of the destruction the match causes.



* EvilIsPetty: Just in case you weren't convinced that Seiga's messed up, she laughs at and mocks the [[SpeakIllOfTheDead now-dead]] [[spoiler:Yoshika]].



* FinalSpeech: From the final episode:
-->'''[[spoiler:Yoshika:]]''' [[spoiler:"1200 years have passed... until I have finally realized... What I really needed was not becoming a hermit or prolonging my life... The time with thee... was the important thing, it seemeth... Ka... se... n... [[KilledMidSentence tha...nk...]]]]



* ForbiddenFriendship: A bit of an odd example in that the "forbidden" part doesn't show up until near the end of the series, but it turns out that [[spoiler:Suika is very, very pissed about Kasen's friendship with Yoshika]].



* SatelliteCharacter: Yuugi has no real character arc of her own and mostly serves as someone for Suika and Kasen to interact with besides each other (and Yoshika for the latter).

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Yuugi has no real character arc of her own and mostly serves as someone for Suika and Kasen to interact with besides each other (and Yoshika for the latter).latter).
** Everything about Kan Kaku in the story revolves around his relationship with Seiga, mostly serving [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as her humanization]].



* SpiceUpTheSubtitles: The English translation for episode 4 gives us this gem during a scene transition:

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* SpeakIllOfTheDead: Right after [[spoiler:Yoshika]] dies, Seiga laughs and calls her an idiot.
* SpiceUpTheSubtitles: The English translation for episode 4 gives us this gem during a scene transition:right after [[spoiler:Yoshika dies]]:


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* UnwittingMuggleFriend: The human Yoshika mistakes the oni Kasen for a hermit who can teach her how to become a hermit herself. Although Kasen tells her that she isn't a hermit, she doesn't reveal who she really is and plays along until her HeelRealization when she confesses that she is an oni.

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* ADayInTheLimelight: The third episode focuses primarily on Yoshika and Seiga with Kasen only appearing in brief flashbacks and the end of the episode.



* {{Deuteragonist}}: Yoshika is the second most important character in the series.



** The series displays in the first episode that Kasen isn't ''quite'' the [[RedOniBlueOni blue oni to Suika and Yuugi's red oni]] [[CharacterDevelopment yet]] by having her break up the fight between the two of them, but once they tell her that it's just a friendly rock paper scissors match (yes, [[MundaneMadeAwesome the fistfight in which they destroy the surrounding area is rock paper scissors]]), she happily approves and watches the fight. Note that Kasen is the only one in the area who isn't panicking about all of the destruction the match causes.



* HeelRealization: Yoshika makes it clear how much she suffers from MortalityPhobia and indirectly causes Kasen to realize that she toyed with her emotions.

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* HeelRealization: Yoshika makes it clear how much she suffers from MortalityPhobia [[MortalityPhobia fears her own death when she's alone]] and indirectly causes Kasen to realize that she toyed with her emotions.


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* SecondEpisodeIntroduction: {{Deuteragonist}} Yoshika makes her debut in episode 2.

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* AdaptationExpansion: The ''Immortal Philosophy'' PV is only four minutes long compared to the one hour and eight minutes length of this series. To give an idea of how much was added, the entirety of their first and third episodes are completely original and not even half of the content from the second and fourth episodes are from the PV. No other characters besides Kasen and Yoshika appeared in the original PV either.

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* AdaptationExpansion: The ''Immortal Philosophy'' PV is only four minutes long compared to the one hour and eight minutes length of this series. To give an idea of how much was added, the entirety of their the first and third episodes are completely original and not even half of the content from the second and fourth episodes are from the PV. No other characters besides Kasen and Yoshika appeared in the original PV either.



* BadSamaritan: Seiga's help for Yoshika is... [[ReforgedIntoAMinion not.]]



* BitchInSheepsClothing: Not much of a mystery for the viewer that [[FauxAffablyEvil Seiga is not as kind as she lets on]].



** Seiga starts off things by covering Yoshika's eyes from behind by creating a hole in the wall and asking her to guess who. She then presents Yoshika with a feast as a premature celebration for meeting the reikon that ends up containing human body parts, along with another version of the hermit arriving behind Yoshika to slice up bits of her arm into the food. One HumansAreBastards speech later, Seiga reveals that all of this is another prank and the body parts and other Seiga are puppets. Seiga is [[FauxAffablyEvil playful and approachable, but also very twisted]].
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Seiga seems to genuinely care for Yoshika. She also knew a man named Kan Kaku, but had to give up love in favor of being a hermit. [[spoiler:He too became a hermit to continue living with her, but it is unclear about where he is now.]]

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** Seiga starts off things by covering Yoshika's eyes from behind by creating a hole in the wall and asking her to guess who. She then presents Yoshika with a feast as a premature celebration for meeting the reikon that ends up containing human body parts, along with another version of the hermit arriving behind Yoshika to slice up bits of her arm into the food. One HumansAreBastards speech later, Seiga reveals that all of this is another prank and the body parts and other Seiga are puppets. Seiga is [[FauxAffablyEvil seems playful and approachable, but also is very twisted]].
twisted deep down]].
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Seiga seems to genuinely care for Yoshika. She also knew a man named Kan Kaku, but had to give up love in favor of being a hermit. [[spoiler:He too became a hermit to continue living with her, but it is unclear about where he is now.]]]] She also shows genuine care for Yoshika after she becomes a jiang shi, hoping that she can stay the way she is and not be like [[HumansAreBastards the rest of humanity]].



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Downplayed. Yoshika seems to realize that Seiga is evil, but she doesn't have many other options when it comes to people to trust to help her become a hermit.

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Downplayed. Yoshika seems to realize that Seiga is evil, but [[TooDesperateToBePicky she doesn't have many other options when it comes to people to trust to help her become a hermit.hermit]].

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* AffablyEvil: Seiga is rather playful and friendly despite thinking HumansAreBastards and [[spoiler:being the only character to kill someone onscreen]].



* CreepyChild: During the CreativeClosingCredits for the final episode, we are told a legend about an "eerie child" [[spoiler:who was hated by everyone in her village except her mother because of her creepiness to the point where the villagers blamed her for a terrible storm because they thought she upset the water god with her presence. If you guessed that child was Kasen, you're correct.]]

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* CreepyChild: During the CreativeClosingCredits for the final episode, we are told a legend about an "eerie child" [[spoiler:who was hated by everyone in her village except her mother because of her creepiness to the point where the villagers blamed her for a terrible storm because they thought she upset the water god with her presence.presence]]. If you guessed that child was Kasen, you're correct.]]



** Seiga starts off things by covering Yoshika's eyes from behind by creating a hole in the wall and asking her to guess who. She then presents Yoshika with a feast as a premature celebration for meeting the reikon that ends up containing human body parts, along with another version of the hermit arriving behind Yoshika to slice up bits of her arm into the food. One HumansAreBastards speech later, Seiga reveals that all of this is another prank and the body parts and other Seiga are puppets. Seiga is [[AffablyEvil playful and approachable, but also very twisted]].

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** Seiga starts off things by covering Yoshika's eyes from behind by creating a hole in the wall and asking her to guess who. She then presents Yoshika with a feast as a premature celebration for meeting the reikon that ends up containing human body parts, along with another version of the hermit arriving behind Yoshika to slice up bits of her arm into the food. One HumansAreBastards speech later, Seiga reveals that all of this is another prank and the body parts and other Seiga are puppets. Seiga is [[AffablyEvil [[FauxAffablyEvil playful and approachable, but also very twisted]].



* FauxAffablyEvil: Playful and friendly as Seiga might be at first, it's pretty clear upon further inspection that she's very twisted, especially after [[spoiler:she poisons Yoshika and [[EvilIsPetty laughs at her death]] before enslaving her]].



* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Seiga says that she will ask the reikon to make Yoshika a hermit one last time and arrives back with some medicine. How nice of her! [[spoiler:No wait, it's poison. And [[EvilIsPetty Seiga laughs at Yoshika's goals]]. [[ReforgedIntoAMinion And then turns her into a jiang shi.]]]]

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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: The closest thing Seiga says that she will ask the reikon gets a display of remorse turns out to make Yoshika a hermit one last time and arrives back with some medicine. How nice of her! [[spoiler:No wait, it's poison. And be false as her initial tears after [[spoiler:Yoshika dies]] soon turn into [[EvilIsPetty Seiga laughs at Yoshika's goals]]. a burst of laughter over]] [[spoiler:Yoshika falling for her trick and she proceeds to mock her goals]] before fulfilling the ForegoneConclusion [[ReforgedIntoAMinion And then turns her into a jiang shi.]]]]involving Yoshika's role in the present day]].



** During the second episode, Yoshika buys some books from a hooded woman in blue robes. [[spoiler:The end of the same episode has the woman take off her hood and reveal herself as Seiga.]]

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** During the second episode, Yoshika buys some books from a hooded woman in blue robes. [[spoiler:The This seemingly-insignificant figure is likely to be forgotten about until one rewatches and recognizes her [[spoiler:as the one who appears at the end of the same episode has the woman take off her hood and to reveal herself as Seiga.]]

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* AdultFear: Let's see, child left in the woods waiting to die because her mother never came back to get her like promised. ''Yikes.''



* BigDamnReunion: [[spoiler:After her fight with Suika, Kasen finally gets to see Yoshika again after 1,200 years... but she's a SoullessShell now and can't remember her. Kasen apologizes and says that she reminded her of someone she knew a long time ago... but then Yoshika's memory is restored and they both begin to cry tears of joy from finally seeing each other again.]]

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* BigDamnReunion: [[spoiler:After In the final episode, [[spoiler:after her fight with Suika, Kasen finally gets to see Yoshika again after 1,200 years... but she's a SoullessShell now and can't remember her. Kasen apologizes and says that she reminded her of someone she knew a long time ago... but then Yoshika's memory is restored and they both begin to cry tears of joy from finally seeing each other again.]]



* BloodFromTheMouth: [[spoiler:The main sign of Yoshika's SoapOperaDisease is this. After being poisoned, Seiga was able to create an ofuda using all of the blood that came out of her mouth.]]

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* BloodFromTheMouth: [[spoiler:The The main sign of Yoshika's [[spoiler:Yoshika]]'s SoapOperaDisease is this. After that she keeps coughing up blood. [[spoiler:After being poisoned, Seiga was able to create an ofuda using all of the blood that came out of her mouth.]]



* CreepyChild: [[spoiler:Pre-oni child Kasen was hated by everyone in her village except her mother because of her creepiness to the point where the villagers blamed her for a terrible storm because they thought she upset the water god with her presence.]]

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* CreepyChild: [[spoiler:Pre-oni child Kasen During the CreativeClosingCredits for the final episode, we are told a legend about an "eerie child" [[spoiler:who was hated by everyone in her village except her mother because of her creepiness to the point where the villagers blamed her for a terrible storm because they thought she upset the water god with her presence.presence. If you guessed that child was Kasen, you're correct.]]



* HeelRealization: Kasen gives up her original plans and tells Yoshika her true identity once the latter makes it clear how much she suffers from MortalityPhobia and indirectly causes the oni to realize that she toyed with her emotions.

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* HeelRealization: Kasen gives up her original plans and tells Yoshika her true identity once the latter makes it clear how much she suffers from MortalityPhobia and indirectly causes the oni Kasen to realize that she toyed with her emotions.



** No one ever really calls out or punishes Seiga for [[spoiler:poisoning Yoshika]]. Possible justified as things worked out for the better anyway.
** Played with for [[spoiler:the villagers who sacrificed Kasen's mother to the water god]]. From our perspective, they are responsible for much of the pain in the story, but the legend we are told treats their actions as an EarnYourHappyEnding.

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** No one ever really calls out or punishes Seiga for [[spoiler:poisoning Yoshika]]. Possible Possibly justified as things worked out for the better anyway.
** Played with for [[spoiler:the villagers who sacrificed Kasen's mother to the water god]]. From our perspective, they are responsible for much of the pain in the story, but the legend we are told treats their actions as an a case of EarnYourHappyEnding.



* PeacefulInDeath: [[spoiler:When Yoshika dies the second time, her dead body is smiling. Ironic considering how much she feared death before.]]

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* PeacefulInDeath: [[spoiler:When Yoshika dies the second time, time,]] her dead body is smiling. Ironic [[spoiler:Ironic considering how much she feared death before.]]



* RewatchBonus:
** If you're wondering about the significance of the rain in the first episode, [[spoiler:the CreativeClosingCredits of the final episode show that the rain is the entire reason Kasen and her mother got separated]].
** During the second episode, Yoshika buys some books from a hooded woman in blue robes. [[spoiler:The end of the same episode has the woman take off her hood and reveal herself as Seiga.]]



* SoapOperaDisease: [[spoiler:Yoshika is dying of one.]] The only signs of it are BloodFromTheMouth and that it is apparently terminal.

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* SoapOperaDisease: [[spoiler:Yoshika [[spoiler:Yoshika]] is dying of one.]] one. The only signs of it are BloodFromTheMouth and that it is apparently terminal.



* TraumaCongaLine: Both Kasen and Yoshika get put through tons of misery.

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* TraumaCongaLine: Both Kasen and Yoshika get put through tons of misery.misery, [[{{Determinator}} but don't let that stand in their way]].



* YourDaysAreNumbered: [[spoiler:Yoshika is dying of a SoapOperaDisease and it's why she wants to become a hermit.]]

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* YourDaysAreNumbered: [[spoiler:Yoshika [[spoiler:Yoshika]] is dying of a SoapOperaDisease and [[spoiler:and it's why she wants to become a hermit.]]
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* DyingAsYourself: [[spoiler:Yoshika has her memories and personality restored, but she doesn't have the energy to last for much longer. She spends her final moments together with Kasen.]]


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* PeacefulInDeath: [[spoiler:When Yoshika dies the second time, her dead body is smiling. Ironic considering how much she feared death before.]]

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* BrokenBird: Part of Kasen's AdaptationalAngstUpgrade.

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* BrokenBird: Part of Kasen's AdaptationalAngstUpgrade. She opens up more after meeting Yoshika, however.


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* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: There's no mention of ParentalAbandonment in regards to Kasen in canon, and she certainly doesn't go through enough emotional pain to cry.

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* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: There's no mention of ParentalAbandonment in regards Compared to Kasen in canon, she has to deal with ParentalAbandonment, suffers from LossOfIdentity, and she certainly doesn't go goes through enough emotional pain to cry.cry when she has yet to cry in an official work.



* CreepyChild: [[spoiler:Pre-oni child Kasen was hated by everyone in her village except her mother to the point where the villagers blamed her for a terrible storm because they thought she upset the water god with her presence.]]

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* CreepyChild: [[spoiler:Pre-oni child Kasen was hated by everyone in her village except her mother because of her creepiness to the point where the villagers blamed her for a terrible storm because they thought she upset the water god with her presence.]]



* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:While it's up for debate about if Yoshika would be able to stay alive (well, about as alive as a jiang shi can get anyway) without her ofuda at the end of the ''Immortal Philosophy'' PV, here her death is outright confirmed. She's also still around in ''Touhou'' canon.]]

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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:While it's up for debate about if Yoshika would be able to stay alive (well, about as alive as a jiang shi can get anyway) without her ofuda at the end of the ''Immortal Philosophy'' PV, here her death is outright confirmed. ]] She's also still around in ''Touhou'' canon.]]



* KarmaHoudini: No one ever really calls out or punishes Seiga for [[spoiler:poisoning Yoshika]]. Possible justified as things worked out for the better anyway.

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No one ever really calls out or punishes Seiga for [[spoiler:poisoning Yoshika]]. Possible justified as things worked out for the better anyway.anyway.
** Played with for [[spoiler:the villagers who sacrificed Kasen's mother to the water god]]. From our perspective, they are responsible for much of the pain in the story, but the legend we are told treats their actions as an EarnYourHappyEnding.

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