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* [[HilariousMoments [[FunnyMoments He'll also incur Loki's wrath by asking certain personal questions]]: "[[ButYouScrewOneGoat So that legend about you and that stallion...?]]"
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* [[HilariousMoment He'll also incur Loki's wrath by asking certain personal questions]]: "[[ButYouScrewOneGoat So that legend about you and that stallion...?]]"
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* [[HilariousMoment [[HilariousMoments He'll also incur Loki's wrath by asking certain personal questions]]: "[[ButYouScrewOneGoat So that legend about you and that stallion...?]]"
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* [[HilariousMoment He'll also incur Loki's wrath by asking certain personal questions]]: "[[ButYouScrewOneGoat So that legend about you and that stallion...?]]"
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* Maybe not so reluctant - my reading of Loki's actions in JIM, as heartbreaking as they ended up being, seemed entirely in hopes of putting himself in a position where he can become a better person. But then no one, especially Loki himself, thinks it's going to stick, because [[StatusQuoisGod Status Quo is God]].
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Not Kid kid Loki, but a child Loki from another dimension entirely (maybe the one we saw in Vengeance?).
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Not Kid kid Loki, but a child Loki from another dimension entirely (maybe the one we saw in Vengeance?).Vengeance?).
[[WMG: Cassie will come back - evil]]
Or at least a version of her. The end of Children's Crusade is pretty implicitly Iron Lad's [[StartOfDarkness Start of Darkness]], after all, and he clearly has a somewhat obsessive thing for Cassie. Combine that with the fact he's ''never'' had any compunctions about screwing around with the timeline (as noble as his intentions were at first), and I absolutely expect to see him pop up with a dark version of her at some point in the future.
[[WMG: Cassie will come back - evil]]
Or at least a version of her. The end of Children's Crusade is pretty implicitly Iron Lad's [[StartOfDarkness Start of Darkness]], after all, and he clearly has a somewhat obsessive thing for Cassie. Combine that with the fact he's ''never'' had any compunctions about screwing around with the timeline (as noble as his intentions were at first), and I absolutely expect to see him pop up with a dark version of her at some point in the future.
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Loki will slowly [[BecomingTheMask Become the Mask]] of the "mischevious and lovable godling" and might even perform a real, if reluctant, HeelFaceTurn. After all, he wouldn't be the first Avenger to do so!
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Loki will slowly [[BecomingTheMask Become the Mask]] of the "mischevious and lovable godling" and might even perform a real, if reluctant, HeelFaceTurn. After all, he wouldn't be the first Avenger to do so!so!
[[WMG: Kid Loki is still a kid]]
Not Kid kid Loki, but a child Loki from another dimension entirely (maybe the one we saw in Vengeance?).
[[WMG: Kid Loki is still a kid]]
Not Kid kid Loki, but a child Loki from another dimension entirely (maybe the one we saw in Vengeance?).
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Loki will realize Billy's potential and try to groom him as a servant/paun at his disposal by mentoring him in magic, only to [[BecomingTheMask reluctantly become fond of Billy]] and genuinely to try to help him grow out of being a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
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Loki will realize Billy's potential and try to groom him as a servant/paun at his disposal by mentoring him in magic, only to [[BecomingTheMask reluctantly become fond of Billy]] and genuinely to try to help him grow out of being a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
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* He's in the middle of a TenMinuteRetirement and will join them later.later.
[[WMG: Loki will become Billy's BigBrotherMentor]]
Loki will realize Billy's potential and try to groom him as a servant/paun at his disposal by mentoring him in magic, only to [[BecomingTheMask reluctantly become fond of Billy]] and genuinely to try to help him grow out of being a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
[[WMG: To go with the above, the Young Avengers will become Loki's [[MoralityPet Morality Pets]] ]]
Loki will slowly [[BecomingTheMask Become the Mask]] of the "mischevious and lovable godling" and might even perform a real, if reluctant, HeelFaceTurn. After all, he wouldn't be the first Avenger to do so!
[[WMG: Loki will become Billy's BigBrotherMentor]]
Loki will realize Billy's potential and try to groom him as a servant/paun at his disposal by mentoring him in magic, only to [[BecomingTheMask reluctantly become fond of Billy]] and genuinely to try to help him grow out of being a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
[[WMG: To go with the above, the Young Avengers will become Loki's [[MoralityPet Morality Pets]] ]]
Loki will slowly [[BecomingTheMask Become the Mask]] of the "mischevious and lovable godling" and might even perform a real, if reluctant, HeelFaceTurn. After all, he wouldn't be the first Avenger to do so!
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During ''Children's Crusade'' Billy will discover that his whole life, his family, his powers, his unrelated speedster twin, were all created by Wanda as a place to hide after House of M. The situation will devolve into [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer "Ben-and-Glory"-style antics]] before being resolved in a satisfactory and/or heartbreaking fashion.
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* He's in the middle of a TenMinuteRetirement and will join them later.
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* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of AvengersVsXMen. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
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* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of AvengersVsXMen.''[[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen Avengers Vs X-Men]]''. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
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* He was kidnapped and will be featured in Marvel's AvengersArena.
* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of AvengersVsX-Men. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
* He's joined the [[ComicBook/Runaways Runaways]] to be Molly's new BigBrotherMentor.
* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of AvengersVsX-Men. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
* He's joined the [[ComicBook/Runaways Runaways]] to be Molly's new BigBrotherMentor.
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* He was kidnapped and will be featured in Marvel's AvengersArena.
''[[ComicBook/AvengersArena Avengers Arena]]''.
* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events ofAvengersVsX-Men.AvengersVsXMen. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
* He's joined the[[ComicBook/Runaways [[{{ComicBook/Runaways}} Runaways]] to be Molly's new BigBrotherMentor.
* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of
* He's joined the
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[[WMG: Billy will have another [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Geek Out]] over Kid!Loki]]
* After all, he showed an immense interest in Norse Mythology and he'll probably also bond over having another magic-user on the team with him.
* After all, he showed an immense interest in Norse Mythology and he'll probably also bond over having another magic-user on the team with him.
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[[WMG: Billy will have another [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Geek Out]] over Kid!Loki]]
* After all, he showed an immense interest in Norse Mythology and he'll probably also bond over having another magic-user on the team with him.him.
[[WMG: The reason why Tommy isn't in the new YoungAvengers volume...]]
* He joined the official NewAvengers lineup.
* He was kidnapped and will be featured in Marvel's AvengersArena.
* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of AvengersVsX-Men. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
* He's joined the [[ComicBook/Runaways Runaways]] to be Molly's new BigBrotherMentor.
* He's in the middle of a TenMinuteRetirement and will join them later.
[[WMG: The reason why Tommy isn't in the new YoungAvengers volume...]]
* He joined the official NewAvengers lineup.
* He was kidnapped and will be featured in Marvel's AvengersArena.
* He's on the run with Magneto or Pietro after the events of AvengersVsX-Men. He did seem to bond with them much more than Billy!
* He's joined the [[ComicBook/Runaways Runaways]] to be Molly's new BigBrotherMentor.
* He's in the middle of a TenMinuteRetirement and will join them later.
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[[WMG: Billy will have another [[KnightsWhoSaySquee Geek Out]] over Kid!Loki]]
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[[WMG: Billy will have another [[KnightsWhoSaySquee [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Geek Out]] over Kid!Loki]]
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* Oh come on! It would be too good to pass up!up!
[[WMG: Billy will have another [[KnightsWhoSaySquee Geek Out]] over Kid!Loki]]
* After all, he showed an immense interest in Norse Mythology and he'll probably also bond over having another magic-user on the team with him.
[[WMG: Billy will have another [[KnightsWhoSaySquee Geek Out]] over Kid!Loki]]
* After all, he showed an immense interest in Norse Mythology and he'll probably also bond over having another magic-user on the team with him.
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[[WMG: There WILL be a Wicked reference at some point.
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[[WMG: There WILL be a Wicked reference at some point.]]
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B.) Billy went the path of Scarlet Witch after Teddy's death.
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B.) Billy went the path of Scarlet Witch after Teddy's death.death.
[[WMG: There WILL be a Wicked reference at some point.
* Oh come on! It would be too good to pass up!
[[WMG: There WILL be a Wicked reference at some point.
* Oh come on! It would be too good to pass up!
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* Wiccan will be fine without Wanda's direct supervision. DoctorStrange will ask him to be his apprentice (or vice versa) and become a kind of father-figure for him.
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* Wiccan will be fine without Wanda's direct supervision. DoctorStrange Comicbook/DoctorStrange will ask him to be his apprentice (or vice versa) and become a kind of father-figure for him.
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[[WMG: There will be an alternate time line where...]]
*... A.) Billy died at the end of Children's Crusade 4, or
B.) Billy went the path of Scarlet Witch after Teddy's death.
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* All his geeking out over the Scarlett Witch(who was born in eastern europe), his decidedly camp gay moments where he quotes Heidi Klum and dresses the group up as characters from The Sound of Music all point to this. Also the Norse Mythology thing. That too.
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* All his geeking out over the Scarlett Witch(who was born in eastern europe), his decidedly camp gay moments where he quotes Heidi Klum and dresses the group up as characters from The Sound of Music all point to this. Also the Norse Mythology thing. That too.too.
[[WMG: Hulk is Billy and Teddy's kid.]]
*I know, Hulk got his powers from Gamma Rays, but stay with me here. So, Billy and Teddy are going to have a kid (Via Billy's magic) and the Avengers have a total freak-out. They end up on the run, when a (past? present? I dunno) Iron Lad helps them escape into the time stream. They end up in the past, where the baby is born. Knowing that they can't bring it back to the present, they give it to a woman who miscarried, and alter evryone's memories so that they think it's her kid. Billy and Teddy return to the present, and everyone assumes the child died. However, the child grows up and starts experamenting with Gamma Rays. The Gamma Rays had the effect they did because of his heiratage, and he becomes the Hulk.
[[WMG: Hulk is Billy and Teddy's kid.]]
*I know, Hulk got his powers from Gamma Rays, but stay with me here. So, Billy and Teddy are going to have a kid (Via Billy's magic) and the Avengers have a total freak-out. They end up on the run, when a (past? present? I dunno) Iron Lad helps them escape into the time stream. They end up in the past, where the baby is born. Knowing that they can't bring it back to the present, they give it to a woman who miscarried, and alter evryone's memories so that they think it's her kid. Billy and Teddy return to the present, and everyone assumes the child died. However, the child grows up and starts experamenting with Gamma Rays. The Gamma Rays had the effect they did because of his heiratage, and he becomes the Hulk.
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*Nope. It did finally happen though. But it was because of Teddy [[spoiler:proposing]] to Billy
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* Wiccan will be fine without Wanda's direct supervision. DoctorStrange will ask him to be his apprentice (or vice versa) and become a kind of father-figure for him.him.
[[WMG: Billy is a Germanophile]]
* All his geeking out over the Scarlett Witch(who was born in eastern europe), his decidedly camp gay moments where he quotes Heidi Klum and dresses the group up as characters from The Sound of Music all point to this. Also the Norse Mythology thing. That too.
[[WMG: Billy is a Germanophile]]
* All his geeking out over the Scarlett Witch(who was born in eastern europe), his decidedly camp gay moments where he quotes Heidi Klum and dresses the group up as characters from The Sound of Music all point to this. Also the Norse Mythology thing. That too.
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* And Tommy complains about not ''wanting'' supervision and Wanda brightly offers to ground him. Or make him listen to Pietro talk about himself for a few hours. It's all but been proven that Tommy's parents either don't care much or at least aren't looking for him, so I think he's going to be stuck with Wanda and Pietro.
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* And Tommy complains about not ''wanting'' supervision and Wanda brightly offers to ground him. Or make him listen to Pietro talk about himself for a few hours. It's all but been proven that Tommy's parents either don't care much or at least aren't looking for him, so I think he's going to be stuck with Wanda and Pietro.Pietro.
* Wiccan will be fine without Wanda's direct supervision. DoctorStrange will ask him to be his apprentice (or vice versa) and become a kind of father-figure for him.
* Wiccan will be fine without Wanda's direct supervision. DoctorStrange will ask him to be his apprentice (or vice versa) and become a kind of father-figure for him.
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During Peter David's Captain Marvel series, the title character (Genis-Vell) tore down and rebuilt the universe with one major change--he now had a sister, Phyla. Given Genis' desire for a family, he could have subconsciously created Teddy, or perhaps have manipulated the events which led to Teddy's birth.
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During Peter David's Captain Marvel series, the title character (Genis-Vell) tore down and rebuilt the universe with one major change--he now had a sister, Phyla. Given Genis' desire for a family, he could have subconsciously created Teddy, or perhaps have manipulated the events which led to Teddy's birth.birth.
[[WMG: ScarletWitch and Rebecca Kaplan will meet...]]
And get along great (while Billy panics outside whatever room they're in). Plus, Tommy ''clearly'' needs more supervision than Billy, so that will take a lot more of Wanda's time. They work out that Rebecca is in charge of civilian Billy and Wanda is in charge when he's doing superhero stuff. There will be hugging.
* And Tommy complains about not ''wanting'' supervision and Wanda brightly offers to ground him. Or make him listen to Pietro talk about himself for a few hours. It's all but been proven that Tommy's parents either don't care much or at least aren't looking for him, so I think he's going to be stuck with Wanda and Pietro.
[[WMG: ScarletWitch and Rebecca Kaplan will meet...]]
And get along great (while Billy panics outside whatever room they're in). Plus, Tommy ''clearly'' needs more supervision than Billy, so that will take a lot more of Wanda's time. They work out that Rebecca is in charge of civilian Billy and Wanda is in charge when he's doing superhero stuff. There will be hugging.
* And Tommy complains about not ''wanting'' supervision and Wanda brightly offers to ground him. Or make him listen to Pietro talk about himself for a few hours. It's all but been proven that Tommy's parents either don't care much or at least aren't looking for him, so I think he's going to be stuck with Wanda and Pietro.
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* Jossed (unless there's a retcon/plot-twisat later) [[spoiler: Wanda's back and called them "my sons"]]
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During Genis' Peter David's Captain Marvel series, he the title character (Genis-Vell) tore down and rebuilt the universe with one major change--he now had a sister, Phyla. Given Genis' desire for a family, he could have subconsciously created Teddy, or perhaps have manipulated the events which led to Teddy's birth.
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During ''Children's Crusade'' Billy will discover that his whole life, his family, his powers, his unrelated speedster twin, were all created by Wanda as a place to hide after House of M. The situation will devolve into [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer "Ben-and-Glory"-style antics]] before being resolved in a satisfactory and/or heartbreaking fashion.fashion.
[[WMG: Teddy didn't exist until Genis-Vell recreated the universe.]]
During Genis' Captain Marvel series, he tore down and rebuilt the universe with one major change--he now had a sister, Phyla. Given Genis' desire for a family, he could have subconsciously created Teddy, or perhaps have manipulated the events which led to Teddy's birth.
[[WMG: Teddy didn't exist until Genis-Vell recreated the universe.]]
During Genis' Captain Marvel series, he tore down and rebuilt the universe with one major change--he now had a sister, Phyla. Given Genis' desire for a family, he could have subconsciously created Teddy, or perhaps have manipulated the events which led to Teddy's birth.
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Possibly it will happen [[OnceAnEpisode once an issue]] until the very end of ''Children's Crusade'', when they finally just say, "Screw it!" and smooch in front of everyone.
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Possibly it will happen [[OnceAnEpisode once an issue]] until the very end of ''Children's Crusade'', when they finally just say, "Screw it!" and smooch in front of everyone.everyone.
[[WMG: Billy IS the Scarlet Witch.]]
During ''Children's Crusade'' Billy will discover that his whole life, his family, his powers, his unrelated speedster twin, were all created by Wanda as a place to hide after House of M. The situation will devolve into [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer "Ben-and-Glory"-style antics]] before being resolved in a satisfactory and/or heartbreaking fashion.
[[WMG: Billy IS the Scarlet Witch.]]
During ''Children's Crusade'' Billy will discover that his whole life, his family, his powers, his unrelated speedster twin, were all created by Wanda as a place to hide after House of M. The situation will devolve into [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer "Ben-and-Glory"-style antics]] before being resolved in a satisfactory and/or heartbreaking fashion.
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* I got the impression that Billy only started believing he was the Scarlet Witch's son because the Super-Skrull put the idea into his head. That happened ''after'' he met Tommy. Of course, if Billy is as powerful as Wanda, it's possible he subconsciously altered the timestream itself.
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* I got the impression that Billy only started believing he was the Scarlet Witch's son because the Super-Skrull put the idea into his head. That happened ''after'' he met Tommy. Of course, if Billy is as powerful as Wanda, it's possible he subconsciously altered the timestream itself.itself.
[[WMG: Billy and Teddy [[AlmostKiss getting interrupted just as they're about to kiss]] will become a RunningGag.]]
Possibly it will happen [[OnceAnEpisode once an issue]] until the very end of ''Children's Crusade'', when they finally just say, "Screw it!" and smooch in front of everyone.
[[WMG: Billy and Teddy [[AlmostKiss getting interrupted just as they're about to kiss]] will become a RunningGag.]]
Possibly it will happen [[OnceAnEpisode once an issue]] until the very end of ''Children's Crusade'', when they finally just say, "Screw it!" and smooch in front of everyone.
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** It's one of the directions I see Children's Crusade going. Billy and Tommy discover that they aren't really Wanda Maximoff's sons; Billy's powers were granted to him by Scarlet Witch's reality warping when she ran into him outside the Avengers mansion; and Tommy was created by Billy's reality warping to make his belief that he is Scarlet Witch's son (a.k.a. The Ultimate Fanboy Delusion) sound more plausible.
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* I got the impression that Billy only started believing he was the Scarlet Witch's son because the Super-Skrull put the idea into his head. That happened ''after'' he met Tommy. Of course, if Billy is as powerful as Wanda, it's possible he subconsciously altered the timestream itself.
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[[WMG: Tommy is a product of Wiccan's powers. Wiccan's powers are a product of Scarlet Witch's powers. None of the above are related.]]
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[[WMG: Tommy is a product of Wiccan's powers. Wiccan's powers are a product of Scarlet Witch's powers. None of the above individuals are related.]]
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**It's one of the directions I see Children's Crusade going. Billy and Tommy discover that they aren't really Wanda Maximoff's sons; Billy's powers were granted to
