History WMG / WithnailAndI

5th Jul '17 5:38:13 PM TimeLordVictorious
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* They're actually all the Doctor. The film is taking place in the head of the Eighth Doctor as he lies dying and preparing to regenerate. He meets a possible next incarnation (Grant) and is also attacked by an alternate version of himself (Griffiths was rumoured to be the planned Eighth Doctor if the original BBC series had continued) trying to become real by 'having' him. Not wanting either alternative, he shaves his head, puts on a leather jacket and heads off to Manchester to become Christopher Eccleston.

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* They're actually all the Doctor. The film is taking place in the head of the Eighth Doctor as he lies dying and preparing to regenerate. He meets a possible next incarnation (Grant) and is also attacked by an alternate version of himself (Griffiths was rumoured to be the planned Eighth Doctor if the original BBC series had continued) trying to become real by 'having' him. Not wanting either alternative, he shaves his head, puts on a leather jacket and heads off to Manchester to become Christopher Eccleston.Creator/ChristopherEccleston, but instead ends up in Derbyshire and becomes Creator/JohnHurt.
9th Nov '16 10:04:54 AM LeedsKing
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* Marwood is quite possibly gay. Note how [[HoYay snuggly he is with Withnail]], how HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday he gets pretty much all the time, and his [[UnkemptBeauty impressive shabby chic fashion sense]]. And he's TheNarrator and the eponymous "I", so it's fair to say the film is from his perspective. Perhaps he is gay more or less to the point of being a HeManWomanHater, or at least women just don't appear on his radar. Since he's [[TransparentCloset in denial about being gay]], he's not getting laid, which combines with him being young and attracted to his roommate to make him [[YouNeedToGetLaid enormously sexually frustrated]], so he therefore doesn't notice women. The only women who have a speaking role are the schoolgirls who Withnail shouts at; Withnail, who is very important to Marwood, is capable of putting women on Marwood's radar by interacting with them.

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* Marwood is quite possibly gay. Note how [[HoYay snuggly he is with Withnail]], how HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday he gets pretty much all the time, and his [[UnkemptBeauty impressive shabby chic fashion sense]]. And he's TheNarrator and the eponymous "I", so it's fair to say the film is from his perspective. Perhaps he is gay more or less to the point of being a HeManWomanHater, or at least women just don't appear on his radar. Since he's [[TransparentCloset in denial about being gay]], he's not getting laid, which combines with him being young and attracted to his roommate to make him [[YouNeedToGetLaid enormously sexually frustrated]], so he therefore doesn't notice women. The only women who have a speaking role are the schoolgirls who at whom Withnail shouts at; directs a drive-by slut-shaming; Withnail, who is very important to Marwood, is capable of putting women on Marwood's radar by interacting with them.
1st Jan '16 5:22:55 PM bwburke94
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* Also, the actor who plays the owner of the tearoom had previously played [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} the Lord President of the Time Lords]]! (That's him in the page image for the story.)

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* Also, the actor who plays the owner of the tearoom had previously played [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin the Lord President of the Time Lords]]! (That's him in the page image for the story.)






There are a few reasons for this: on the commentary, Paul McGann comments that he looks as though he's been there "forever' in one of the early scenes in the flat, in regards to how well he fits with the setting, his almost suicidal alcohol consumption (he drinks lighter fluid and lives, for God's sake!), his bitterness about the state of his career, his gaunt, almost vampiric appearance, his slightly anachronistic clothing, his desperation for Marwood not to leave (which could be interpreted as wanting to keep at least one constant in his life), his arrogant disdain for everyone and everything (he's always the oldest person in the room)...
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There are a few reasons for this: on the commentary, Paul McGann Creator/PaulMcGann comments that he looks as though he's been there "forever' in one of the early scenes in the flat, in regards to how well he fits with the setting, his almost suicidal alcohol consumption (he drinks lighter fluid and lives, for God's sake!), his bitterness about the state of his career, his gaunt, almost vampiric appearance, his slightly anachronistic clothing, his desperation for Marwood not to leave (which could be interpreted as wanting to keep at least one constant in his life), his arrogant disdain for everyone and everything (he's always the oldest person in the room)...
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19th Dec '15 2:06:59 PM malifee
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* The Eighth Doctor had a tendency, in any part of the canon, to get amnesiac at the slightest provocation. This could be one of his many periods of amnesia, or even possibly a section of his life during his [[spoiler: 100 year exile on Earth]] in the EDA novels. He demonstrates a slightly Doctor-ish personality as well: he uses very poetic description during his narration, he has a panic attack over being confined by normality, he's the sensible one throughout most of the film, he shows something of a pacifism with regards to the chicken, and, considering the EDAs and their loose grasp on canon and continuity, the leather jacket he's carrying about could very well be Fitz's.


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[[WMG: Withnail is immortal.]]
There are a few reasons for this: on the commentary, Paul McGann comments that he looks as though he's been there "forever' in one of the early scenes in the flat, in regards to how well he fits with the setting, his almost suicidal alcohol consumption (he drinks lighter fluid and lives, for God's sake!), his bitterness about the state of his career, his gaunt, almost vampiric appearance, his slightly anachronistic clothing, his desperation for Marwood not to leave (which could be interpreted as wanting to keep at least one constant in his life), his arrogant disdain for everyone and everything (he's always the oldest person in the room)...
10th Oct '15 7:51:58 AM liangmali
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* Another reason for the lack of women is the title character's "acute deprivation". Let's not forget that these two (as well as their real life counterparts) used to take bottles to off-license and use that money to get new booze. They were broke and couldn't afford having girlfriends, according to the author's own words.
22nd Nov '14 9:33:13 AM LongLiveHumour
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* There was a cartoon DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse thing in which Richard E. Grant played the Doctor, with a personality not altogether unlike Withnail's. Also note Withnail's "synous nicotine based" {{technobabble}}. He must be a Time Lord too.

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* There was a cartoon DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse ''Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse'' thing in which Richard E. Grant played the Doctor, with a personality not altogether unlike Withnail's. Also note Withnail's "synous nicotine based" {{technobabble}}. He must be a Time Lord too.
20th May '13 7:44:35 AM Bronzethumb
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** Alternatively, the film depicts [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor the Great Intelligence's attempt to kill the Eighth Doctor with alcohol poisoning]].
12th May '13 12:27:37 PM DorisWildthyme
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* Also, the actor who plays the owner of the tearoom had previously played [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} the Lord President of the Time Lords]]!

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* Also, the actor who plays the owner of the tearoom had previously played [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} the Lord President of the Time Lords]]!
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12th May '13 12:27:09 PM DorisWildthyme
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* Also, the actor who plays the owner of the tearoom had previously played [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} the Lord President of the Time Lords]]!
11th Nov '12 11:37:32 AM ExtrovertFederalist
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* Withnail is gay while Marwood isn't and he came on to Marwood at some point in the past and was rejected. He feeds his uncle Monty the bullshit story about ''himself'' being the one who rejected ''Marwood'' as a defense mechanism. Withnail attempts to punish Marwood for rejecting him by and telling Monty that Marwood is an active homosexual in exchange for the cottage [[FridgeBrilliance knowing that Monty will probably come up there and try to rape Marwood.]]

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* Withnail is gay while Marwood isn't and he came on to Marwood at some point in the past and was rejected. He feeds his uncle Monty the bullshit story about ''himself'' being the one who rejected ''Marwood'' as a defense mechanism. Withnail attempts to punish Marwood for rejecting him by and telling Monty that Marwood is an active homosexual in exchange for the cottage [[FridgeBrilliance knowing that Monty will probably come up there and try to rape Marwood.]]
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