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[[WMG: Alternatively, Time Odyssey is the result of a faction split and civil war among the Firstborn.]]
The Firstborn in the Epilogue seem as if they desire to leave Earth alone and not destroy it until the End of Days-and this Troper interpreted it as if they would just let Earth develop and leave it be. So perhaps Time Odyssey was the result of a Faction Split in the Firstborn-while most were content to just leave Earth be, some were angrier and decided to judge the planet and its species, creating many alternate realities and parallel universes as a result of the conflict, and thus the many different timelines the books take place in.

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* And of course, Bowman doesn't say it in the movie anyway. It's in the novelisation, and used twice in the opening sequence of ''2010'', but not in the original movie.
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*** This includes Marvel's monthly series, if they hadn't also happened in the other timelines.
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[[WMG: [[Film/StarWars Star Destroyers]] form the "wedges door" on the moon at the moonbase.]]

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[[WMG: [[Film/StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Star Destroyers]] form the "wedges door" on the moon at the moonbase.]]
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[[WMG: The Aliens are [[MagicTheGathering pre-mending planeswalkers]]]]

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[[WMG: The Aliens are [[MagicTheGathering [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering pre-mending planeswalkers]]]]
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From ''Book/TheLostWorldsOf2001'': ''Apart from their unusual height - more than seven feet - the creatures that looked down upon the world of Pliocene were strikingly human (...) With a little plastic surgery, Clindar could have passed for a man. He was hairless...''

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From ''Book/TheLostWorldsOf2001'': ''Literature/{{The Lost Worlds of 2001}}'': ''Apart from their unusual height - more than seven feet - the creatures that looked down upon the world of Pliocene were strikingly human (...) With a little plastic surgery, Clindar could have passed for a man. He was hairless...''



** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in ''Literature/TheLostWorldsOf2001''.

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** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in ''Literature/TheLostWorldsOf2001''.''The Lost Worlds of 2001''.

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[[WMG: ''Film/AClockworkOrange'' takes place at the same time as 2001.]]

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[[WMG: ''Film/AClockworkOrange'' takes place at the same time as 2001.''2001''.]]



My God - ''it's full of stars!''

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My God - ''it's full of stars!''

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** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in ''Book/TheLostWorldsOf2001''.

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** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in ''Book/TheLostWorldsOf2001''.''Literature/TheLostWorldsOf2001''.
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* This could be rephrased as: '''RidleyScott has read ''The Lost Worlds of 2001'''''. I'm pretty sure that the answer is a yes.

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* This could be rephrased as: '''RidleyScott '''Creator/RidleyScott has read ''The Lost Worlds of 2001'''''. I'm pretty sure that the answer is a yes.
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[[WMG: The aliens who created the Monoliths also sent AlbertEinstein.]]

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[[WMG: The aliens who created the Monoliths also sent AlbertEinstein.UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein.]]

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From TheLostWorldsOf2001: ''Apart from their unusual height - more than seven feet - the creatures that looked down upon the world of Pliocene were strikingly human (...) With a little plastic surgery, Clindar could have passed for a man. He was hairless...''

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From TheLostWorldsOf2001: ''Book/TheLostWorldsOf2001'': ''Apart from their unusual height - more than seven feet - the creatures that looked down upon the world of Pliocene were strikingly human (...) With a little plastic surgery, Clindar could have passed for a man. He was hairless...''



* This could be rephrased as: '''RidleyScott has read TheLostWorldsOf2001'''. I'm pretty sure that the answer is a yes.

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* This could be rephrased as: '''RidleyScott has read TheLostWorldsOf2001'''.''The Lost Worlds of 2001'''''. I'm pretty sure that the answer is a yes.



** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in TheLostWorldsOf2001.

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** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in TheLostWorldsOf2001.''Book/TheLostWorldsOf2001''.



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When the apes come in contact with the monoliths they are developed enough to gain a jump in evolution, however when humans find the monolith on the moon it emits a high pitched shriek to drive away the people because they are not "ready", this occurrence did have an effect on HAL however because of the level of sophistication of its design. When Dave finds himself in the hotel room he his being deliberately aged until he is ready to be evolved.(into a space fetus apparently.)

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When the apes come in contact with the monoliths they are developed enough to gain a jump in evolution, however when humans find the monolith on the moon it emits a high pitched shriek to drive away the people because they are not "ready", this occurrence did have an effect on HAL however because of the level of sophistication of its design. When Dave finds himself in the hotel room he his is being deliberately aged until he is ready to be evolved.evolved (into a space fetus apparently.)
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** The monolith isn't making the screech because they're ''not'' ready, but because they ''are''. The shriek is the signal to the Jupiter monolith that's supposed to tempt humanity out to Europa, where the "evolution" process will happen, and it's only activated when sunlight touches the monolith - that is, being physically excavated from the moon is how the aliens are defining "ready". The pain was just a simple physical side-effect of standing next to a giant alien transmitter.
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** . Bowman, by checking the replaced AE-35 unit and seeing that it was functional, already knew that HAL was in error. HAL's control over Bowman was lost at that point, regardless of what Mission Control would have said.

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** . ** Bowman, by checking the replaced AE-35 unit and seeing that it was functional, already knew that HAL was in error. HAL's control over Bowman was lost at that point, regardless of what Mission Control would have said.
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* It is alluded to though. The old, singing drunk Alex and his droogies assault at the beginning of the film complains about "men on the moon, and men spinning around the Earth, and ain't no attention paid to earthly law and order no more." I don't know how to explain the ''2001'' album in the record store, though.

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[[WMG: Dave's final revelation is the discovery of the fourth wall]]
During the whole hotel room sequence, Dave seems to stare at both the camera and himself multiple time, and in one sequence it is even possible to see the reflection of the camera crew. At another point, he appears to touch the edge of the screen, and right before he ascends he appears to be reaching out for the Monolith, with forced perspective so that even though he is nowhere near it he still is touching it.

Why? Because the Monolith is the fourth wall, and Dave's realization is that he is in a film.

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** So is this that Universe's equivalent of Time Lords?
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** Silence, mortal! The movie is about resurrecting the dead on Jupiter!

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** Silence, mortal! The movie is about resurrecting the dead on Jupiter!
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** This is called "analysis". It's what happens when you don't take things at face value.
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The human and AI minds might appear far from each other, but consider. [=AIs=] are created from our knowledge. The aliens, however, would be completely different in nature; the aliens in this film truly are alien.


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The human and AI minds might appear far from each other, but consider. [=AIs=] are created from our knowledge. The aliens, however, would be completely different in nature; the aliens in this film truly are alien.

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* "As soon as their machines were better than their bodies, it was time to move. First their brains, and then their thoughts alone, they transferred into shining new homes of metal and of gemstone. In these they roamed the galaxy. They no longer built spaceships - they were spaceships." -All four books in the Space Odyssey trilogy ''and'' "The Sentinel", the short story on which the series was based.
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[[WMG: The story is a hidden message about a method for ressurecting the dead on Jupiter]]

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[[WMG: The story is a hidden message about a method for ressurecting resurrecting the dead on Jupiter]]




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** Silence, mortal! The movie is about resurrecting the dead on Jupiter!
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[[WMG: The Starchild's birth was meant to be an inversion of Haeckel's recapitulation theory]]
Instead of embryonic development paralleling our evolutionary history, all of human evolution has just been the embryonic stage of a much higher being. Which I guess makes the Earth an ovum, and human beings sperm... or the chemical soup that produced life was the ovum, and some other catalyst was the sperm... I don't seem to be making this idea any less confusing.
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* Alternatively, a tile artist watched the movie while drunk and got REALLY excited...
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The last ''Space Odyssey'' novel ends with the monoliths being destroyed, but not before they sent a message to their controlling node, 450 light years away from Earth. This would appear to suggest Arthur C. Clarke's intention to write a fifth novel, where the Firstborn deal with an intelligence capable to destroy that technology. Except that he (apparently) didn't. He went on to write a trilogy he called ''Time Odyssey'', with the help of Stephen Baxter. However, he ''did'' say that the Time Odyssey novels form an "orthoquel" to the Space Odyssey novels. Well, what if the events narrated in the Time Odyssey novels are a consequence to the actions narrated in ''3001: Final Odyssey'', as an attempt by the Firstborn (who acquired the ability to manipulate time) not to just exterminate intelligence, but to {{Retcon}} it out of existence?

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The last ''Space Odyssey'' novel ends with the monoliths being destroyed, but not before they sent a message to their controlling node, 450 light years away from Earth. This would appear to suggest Arthur C. Clarke's intention to write a fifth novel, where the Firstborn deal with an intelligence capable to destroy that technology. Except that he (apparently) didn't. He went on to write a trilogy he called ''Time Odyssey'', with the help of Stephen Baxter. However, he ''did'' say that the Time Odyssey novels form an "orthoquel" to the Space Odyssey novels. Well, what if the events narrated in the Time Odyssey novels are a consequence to the actions narrated in ''3001: Final Odyssey'', as an attempt by the Firstborn (who acquired the ability to manipulate time) not to just exterminate intelligence, but to {{Retcon}} [[RetGone erase it out of existence?
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[[WMG: The Firstborn are [[{{Prometheus}} Engineers]].]]

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[[WMG: The Firstborn are [[{{Prometheus}} [[Film/{{Prometheus}} Engineers]].]]
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** And the final timeline modification creates... [[ParanoiaFuel our timeline]]. Where no magnetic anomaly exists under the Tycho crater, no monolith exists in orbit around Jupiter or on the surface of Iapetus, and nobody set foot on the Moon again since 1972. Which implies that [=ET=], far from [[ETGaveUsWiFi giving us wi-fi]], deprived us of space travel.

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** And the final timeline modification creates... [[ParanoiaFuel our timeline]]. Where no magnetic anomaly exists under the Tycho crater, no monolith exists in orbit around Jupiter or on the surface of Iapetus, and nobody set foot on the Moon again since 1972. Which implies that [=ET=], far from [[ETGaveUsWiFi giving us wi-fi]], [[FridgeHorror deprived us of space travel.travel]].
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** More timeline modifications create the various [[WhatCouldHaveBeen alternative scenarios]] narrated in TheLostWorldsOf2001.

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