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* [[Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}} Pinkamena]] or Trollestia did it.

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* [[Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}} [[Fanfic/CupcakesSergeantSprinkles Pinkamena]] or Trollestia did it.
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* With the trend Phoenix's (and the series's in general) assistants have of being quite "out there", Pinkie would fit the bill perfectly, like a Maya TurnedUpToEleven. I'm sure she'll be the one that'll bring up the [[RunningGag eternal debate of ladder/step-ladder]], and just because it ''[[MediumAwareness has]]'' [[MediumAwareness to happen]], ''this is Ace Attorney dang it!''

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* With the trend Phoenix's (and the series's in general) assistants have of being quite "out there", Pinkie would fit the bill perfectly, like a Maya TurnedUpToEleven.turned up to eleven. I'm sure she'll be the one that'll bring up the [[RunningGag eternal debate of ladder/step-ladder]], and just because it ''[[MediumAwareness has]]'' [[MediumAwareness to happen]], ''this is Ace Attorney dang it!''
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…were the ones from past incarnations of ''MyLittlePony''.

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…were the ones from past incarnations of ''MyLittlePony''.''Franchise/MyLittlePony''.



Call this a hunch, but in a [[SugarBowl setting like]] ''MyLittlePony'', [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt it's hard to imagine a murder taking place]] other than snuff fics.

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Call this a hunch, but in a [[SugarBowl setting like]] ''MyLittlePony'', ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt it's hard to imagine a murder taking place]] other than snuff fics.
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[[StarWars Search your feelings; you know it to be true!]] In addition, she's a Pegasus. Lyra and Bon-Bon probably conspired with her.

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[[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Search your feelings; you know it to be true!]] In addition, she's a Pegasus. Lyra and Bon-Bon probably conspired with her.
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*** To add to this WMG, this series is full of Shout-Outs. Who's to say Sonata's name isn't one to Manga/DetectiveConan and the Midnight Sonata case.

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*** To add to this WMG, this series is full of Shout-Outs. Who's to say Sonata's name isn't one to Manga/DetectiveConan Manga/CaseClosed and the Midnight Sonata case.
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** In fact, the whole of the cross examination can be a ShoutOut to MvC3. As the examination goes, Trixie and Phoenix are seemingly on equal terms when she boasts that Phoenix has nothing to trump her with. Phoenix justs looks down and grins. Suddenly Twi notices that [[PowerGlows Phoenix is glowing]] and then the remixed ''Pursuit ~ Cornered'' starts playing. [[MagikarpPower Phoenix]] [[OhCrap just entered]] [[SuperMode Turnabout Mode]].

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** In fact, the whole of the cross examination can be a ShoutOut to MvC3.[=MvC3=]. As the examination goes, Trixie and Phoenix are seemingly on equal terms when she boasts that Phoenix has nothing to trump her with. Phoenix justs looks down and grins. Suddenly Twi notices that [[PowerGlows Phoenix is glowing]] and then the remixed ''Pursuit ~ Cornered'' starts playing. [[MagikarpPower Phoenix]] [[OhCrap just entered]] [[SuperMode Turnabout Mode]].
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[[WMG:Twilight Sparkle has gained the [[VisualNovel/ApolloJustice Perceive Ability]] after exposure to the Magatama.]]

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[[WMG:Twilight Sparkle has gained the [[VisualNovel/ApolloJustice [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Perceive Ability]] after exposure to the Magatama.]]



If [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]] is anything to go by, this is probably the case. I also maintain that the magatama, or rather its power charged into Twilight, [[CallForward will be unable to break them as well]].

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If [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]] ''VisualNovel/{{Apollo Justice|Ace Attorney}}'' is anything to go by, this is probably the case. I also maintain that the magatama, or rather its power charged into Twilight, [[CallForward will be unable to break them as well]].
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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. This idea bugged me even since first episode. Because being sent to the sun seems such harsh punishment, even for OCs.

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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. This idea bugged me even since first episode. Because being sent to the sun seems such harsh punishment, even for OCs.{{original character}}s .
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And it will be [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome glorious]] and {{Memetic|Mutation}}.

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And it will be [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome glorious]] and {{Memetic|Mutation}}.
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* [[{{Cupcakes}} Pinkamena]] or Trollestia did it.

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* [[{{Cupcakes}} [[Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}} Pinkamena]] or Trollestia did it.
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*** PLEASE let the above be true. No [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic MLP:FiM]] character should be like [[AmoralAttorney Manfred Von Karma]].

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*** PLEASE let the above be true. No [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic MLP:FiM]] ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' character should be like [[AmoralAttorney Manfred Von Karma]].



* I'd switch Cruise and Lenora around because it isn't clear if griffins are capable of manipulating the weather in both FiM's canon or Turnabout Storm's canon.

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* I'd switch Cruise and Lenora around because it isn't clear if griffins are capable of manipulating the weather in both FiM's ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'''s canon or Turnabout Storm's canon.
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** ''WebAnimation/ElementsOfJustice'', you say?
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* Phoenix himself will sing, he's taken lessons from ''The Theatre/PhoenixWrightMusicalProject'' after all.

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* Phoenix himself will sing, he's taken lessons from ''The Theatre/PhoenixWrightMusicalProject'' ''Theatre/TurnaboutMusical'' after all.
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[[WMG:Twilight Sparkle has gained the [[ApolloJustice Perceive Ability]] after exposure to the Magatama.]]

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[[WMG:Twilight Sparkle has gained the [[ApolloJustice [[VisualNovel/ApolloJustice Perceive Ability]] after exposure to the Magatama.]]
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* When she was asked if she had ''anything'' to do with the murder, no Psyche-Locks appeared at all. It isn't like the case with [[spoiler: Matt Engarde, the true culprit of Case 2-4 of the Phoenix Wright trilogy, who was able to bypass the locks only because Phoenix worded his question badly]]. The fact is that Rainbow Dash couldn't have been lying when she said she had ''nothing'' to do with Ace Swift's murder, especially since Phoenix worded his question as such.

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* When she was asked if she had ''anything'' to do with the murder, no Psyche-Locks appeared at all. It isn't like the case with [[spoiler: Matt Engarde, the true culprit of Case 2-4 of the Phoenix Wright trilogy, VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy, who was able to bypass the locks only because Phoenix worded his question badly]]. The fact is that Rainbow Dash couldn't have been lying when she said she had ''nothing'' to do with Ace Swift's murder, especially since Phoenix worded his question as such.
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She's just an UnwittingPawn, though not ''unwilling'' -- more [[DrivenByEnvy driven by jealousy]] and hoping to hurt Twilight. She doesn't care who's really responsible, or who goes down for the crime, so long as it's one of Twilight's friends -- be it Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, or ''anyone'' else. If Applejack or Rarity or Pinkie or even one of the CMCs could be potentially punished, she'd leap at it.

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She's just an UnwittingPawn, though not ''unwilling'' -- more [[DrivenByEnvy driven by jealousy]] and hoping to hurt Twilight. She doesn't care who's really responsible, or who goes down for the crime, so long as it's one of Twilight's friends -- be it Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, or ''anyone'' else. If Applejack or Rarity or Pinkie or even one of the CMCs CMC could be potentially punished, she'd leap at it.
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[[WMG: A crucial cross-examination during the last part of the last courtroom act will use the ''Ultimate MarvelvsCapcom3'' versions of Phoenix's themes.]]

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[[WMG: A crucial cross-examination during the last part of the last courtroom act will use the ''Ultimate MarvelvsCapcom3'' VideoGame/MarvelvsCapcom3'' versions of Phoenix's themes.]]
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* Phoenix himself will sing, he's taken lessons from ''The PhoenixWrightMusicalProject'' after all.

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* Phoenix himself will sing, he's taken lessons from ''The PhoenixWrightMusicalProject'' Theatre/PhoenixWrightMusicalProject'' after all.
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*** To add to this WMG, this series is full of Shout-Outs. Who's to say Sonata's name isn't one to DetectiveConan and the Midnight Sonata case.

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*** To add to this WMG, this series is full of Shout-Outs. Who's to say Sonata's name isn't one to DetectiveConan Manga/DetectiveConan and the Midnight Sonata case.
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[[spoiler: The phantom]]. Specifically, [[spoiler: the phantom]] before it really started its job and before [[spoiler: killing Metis]], or in a time paradox, sometime AFTER that, considering the identity crisis. Derpy herself is often cast as Doctor Whooves's companion, after all. Until [[spoiler: she was killed and had her identity stole, just like Bobby Fulbright]], and this is why the Judge feels like talking to Doctor Whooves will cause a paradox- because he hasn't accidentally crossed dimensions and met [[spoiler: the phantom that stole his companion's identity, which he didn't realise until it was too late]]. This entry contains spoiler tags for ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies''. While of course ''Turnabout Storm'' long pre-dates ''Dual Destinies'', it does make sense.

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[[spoiler: The phantom]]. Specifically, [[spoiler: the phantom]] before it really started its job and before [[spoiler: killing Metis]], or in a time paradox, sometime AFTER that, considering the identity crisis. Derpy herself is often cast as Doctor Whooves's companion, after all. Until [[spoiler: she was killed and had her identity stole, just like Bobby Fulbright]], and this is why the Judge feels like talking to Doctor Whooves will cause a paradox- because he hasn't accidentally crossed dimensions and met [[spoiler: the phantom that stole his companion's identity, which he didn't realise until it was too late]]. This entry contains spoiler tags for ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies''.''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies''. While of course ''Turnabout Storm'' long pre-dates ''Dual Destinies'', it does make sense.

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[[WMG: The Derpy/Ditzy/Bright Eyes/Bubbles/??? we see in ''Turnabout Storm'' is really...]]
[[spoiler: The phantom]]. Specifically, [[spoiler: the phantom]] before it really started its job and before [[spoiler: killing Metis]], or in a time paradox, sometime AFTER that, considering the identity crisis. Derpy herself is often cast as Doctor Whooves's companion, after all. Until [[spoiler: she was killed and had her identity stole, just like Bobby Fulbright]], and this is why the Judge feels like talking to Doctor Whooves will cause a paradox- because he hasn't accidentally crossed dimensions and met [[spoiler: the phantom that stole his companion's identity, which he didn't realise until it was too late]]. This entry contains spoiler tags for ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies''. While of course ''Turnabout Storm'' long pre-dates ''Dual Destinies'', it does make sense.
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*** You know, I actually feel like Apollo works better for Humility than Klavier, and Franziska von Karma is Faith. Apollo is one of two people in the entire series who can calmly, immediately, and rationally agree that one of his friends could be a murderer- Klavier doesn't do this, he has trouble accepting that [[spoiler: Daryan is a murderer and that his brother is an evidence forger AND that he's killed twice). The other person who can do this is Franziska herself [[spoiler: when Kay is the most likely candidate for a murder]]. Both of them serve as prosecutor to the blind belief that Phoenix and Edgeworth have in them, and cut down opposing arguments with even less effort than they do in any other court proceeding. This, despite the fact that both Fran and Polly wanted to be proved wrong. While they both suit for Humility equally due to similar situations, I don't think Apollo fits Faith as well as she does. Apollo has faith in Phoenix's skills and in his friendship with Athena. Franziska had a different kind of faith than that. She has faith that the police always arrest the right person, and that by putting the defendant away she's protecting the people. Most forget that ''this'' is why she fights for a Guilty verdict, apart from her record. A perfect record would mean that she never let a slimy attorney who defends someone she ''truly believes is guilty'' outwit her. She was raised to think that all defendants are guilty and that all defence attorneys are just as bad for defending them. She also has faith that she'll find the truth, by the time [=I2=] rolls around. I think she suits Faith just a little more than he does, since they both had the same reactions to [[spoiler: Kay and Athena]] and their potential and very likely guilt. She has the strongest faith in the legal system.
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***OP Here, the other troper nailed my ideas for those four, and while I can't remember who I had in mind when I first wrote that down, AJ and DD gave me Klavier for '''Humility''', since he sent is bandmate and his own brother to prison, and Apollo for '''Faith''', because of that stunt with Athena. [[RecursiveFanfiction Now I have Fanfiction Fuel.]]
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Nothing too flashy, eh?


'''''She has a breakdown after the possibility of Rainbow being guilty goes down the drain. Nothing too flashy, but still.'''''

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'''''She has a breakdown after the possibility of Rainbow being guilty goes down the drain. Nothing too flashy, but still.'''''
[[BunnyEarsLawyer A rabbit pops out of her hat.]]'''''
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** Indeed. Her personality and character role ends up MUCH closer to another character with an uncanny Mia face. [[spoiler: Forced into performing unethical acts by a friend turned cold, she holds up the hardest facade of them all. She thinks knows who did the crime. She stops at nothing to see that suspect never convicted. Phoenix has to reveal that possibility, and then find its faults in order to uncover the real truth; the friend was the true killer. Once that heavy burden is gone, the mask crumbles, and she lets loose one of the most satisfying smiles you ever did see. If you haven't guessed yet, then it's time you met...]] *surprise interruption courtesy of [=NeoArtimus=]'s dramatic sense of humor!*

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** Indeed. Her personality and character role ends up MUCH closer to another character with an uncanny [[IncrediblyLamePun Mia face.face]]. [[spoiler: Forced into performing unethical acts by a friend turned cold, she holds up the hardest facade of them all. She thinks knows who did the crime. She stops at nothing to see that suspect never convicted. Phoenix has to reveal that possibility, and then find its faults in order to uncover the real truth; the friend was the true killer. Once that heavy burden is gone, the mask crumbles, and she lets loose one of the most satisfying smiles you ever did see. If you haven't guessed yet, then it's time you met...]] *surprise interruption courtesy of [=NeoArtimus=]'s dramatic sense of humor!*

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Maggey for Faith. \'Cause why not.


**Yet another troper. How about Maggie Byrde for Faith? She's had her neck on the line more times than Maya at this point, and each time she gets the right verdict. Not Guilty. That takes faith, don't'cha think?



** Indeed. Her attitude is MUCH closer to another character with an uncanny Mia face. [[spoiler: Forced into performing unethical acts by a friend turned cold, she holds up the hardest facade of them all. She thinks knows who did the crime. She stops at nothing to see that suspect never convicted. Phoenix has to reveal that possibility, and then find its faults in order to uncover the real truth; the friend was the true killer. Once that heavy burden is gone, the mask crumbles, and she lets loose one of the most satisfying smiles you ever did see. If you haven't guessed yet, then it's time you met...]] *surprise interruption courtesy of NeoArtimus' sense of dramatic humor!*

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** Indeed. Her attitude is personality and character role ends up MUCH closer to another character with an uncanny Mia face. [[spoiler: Forced into performing unethical acts by a friend turned cold, she holds up the hardest facade of them all. She thinks knows who did the crime. She stops at nothing to see that suspect never convicted. Phoenix has to reveal that possibility, and then find its faults in order to uncover the real truth; the friend was the true killer. Once that heavy burden is gone, the mask crumbles, and she lets loose one of the most satisfying smiles you ever did see. If you haven't guessed yet, then it's time you met...]] *surprise interruption courtesy of NeoArtimus' [=NeoArtimus=]'s dramatic sense of dramatic humor!*




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** Again, surprise interruption courtesy of [=NeoArtimus=]'s dramatic sense of humor!



'''''The "It will be split into at least two parts…with a cliffhanger." guess wins, being the closest of what actually happened. The series is to be concluded in Part 5/4. [--Although the destructuon of the mass relays is still a possibility...--]'''''

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'''''The "It will be split into at least two parts…with a cliffhanger." guess wins, being the closest of what actually happened. The series is to be concluded in Part 5/4. [--Although the destructuon destruction of the mass relays is still a possibility...--]'''''



'''''It is heavily implied the latter is the thing she was refering to.'''''

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'''''It is heavily implied the latter is the thing she was refering referring to.'''''



'''''She tries and fails indeed, but because that is a crime unrrelated to the case at hand more that Phoenix getting leeway.'''''

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'''''She tries and fails indeed, but because that is a crime unrrelated unrelated to the case at hand more that Phoenix getting leeway.'''''

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She\'s Skye. Clearly.


* Well, 1-5 wan't mentioned until Apollo Justice because it was the most recent case up to that point. All the other cases came from the original trilogy released in Japan on the GBA. Rise From The Ashes came about as a... sort-of bonus case... to the first game when it was ported to DS. Thus, any mention of it in JFA or T&T would've had to have been retconned in. Considering the tight script and conservation to detail in both games, that wasn't likely to happen.

* ALL THAT BEING SAID, yes, I agree. Canon is tighter on the Ace Attorney side of the crossover, and excepting the addition of the top hat at the end, it fits in neatly at the end of JFA. To add to the evidence pile, we see a glimpse of Adian Andrews during Phoenix's first talk with Sonata. She (Adrian) was wearing her blue managerial clothes from JFA. The only reason Neo would have her like that (as opposed to her obviously more attractive black suit) is to anchor the events at the end of JFA. Judge, can you hand down your verdict yet?

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* Well, 1-5 wan't mentioned until Apollo Justice because it was the most recent case up to that point. All the other cases came from the original trilogy released in Japan on the GBA. Rise From The Ashes came about as a... sort-of bonus case... to the first game when it was ported to DS. Thus, any mention of it in JFA or T&T would've had to have been retconned in. Considering the tight script and conservation to detail in both games, that wasn't likely to happen.

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happen. ALL THAT BEING SAID, yes, I agree. Canon is tighter on the Ace Attorney side of the crossover, and excepting the addition of the top hat at the end, it fits in neatly at the end of JFA. To add to the evidence pile, we see a glimpse of Adian Andrews during Phoenix's first talk with Sonata. She (Adrian) was wearing her blue managerial clothes from JFA. The only reason Neo would have her like that (as opposed to her obviously more attractive black suit) is to anchor the events at the end of JFA. Judge, can you hand down your verdict yet?


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** Indeed. Her attitude is MUCH closer to another character with an uncanny Mia face. [[spoiler: Forced into performing unethical acts by a friend turned cold, she holds up the hardest facade of them all. She thinks knows who did the crime. She stops at nothing to see that suspect never convicted. Phoenix has to reveal that possibility, and then find its faults in order to uncover the real truth; the friend was the true killer. Once that heavy burden is gone, the mask crumbles, and she lets loose one of the most satisfying smiles you ever did see. If you haven't guessed yet, then it's time you met...]] *surprise interruption courtesy of NeoArtimus' sense of dramatic humor!*

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-->'''Twilight:''' ''It's something else…But that was the first time [note: Ursa-Minor incident] I met Trixie in my life; what else could I have done to her to bear these awful feelings?''

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-->'''Twilight:''' ''It's something else…But else… But that was the first time [note: Ursa-Minor incident] I met Trixie in my life; what else could I have done to her to bear these awful feelings?''



The events did happen to canon Phoenix, and this alternate Equestria is part of ''Ace Attorney's'' universe. As to why they aren't mentioned or refered to? Well, it's not unusual in the series for big previous cases to go unmentioned (see Case 1-5 up until ''Apollo Justice''), we don't see every day of the lawyers' lifes, and it's not like Phoenix would be willing to go around talking about a pastel talking equine world back on Earth too much.

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The events did happen to canon Phoenix, and this alternate Equestria is part of ''Ace Attorney's'' universe. As to why they aren't mentioned or refered to? Well, it's not unusual in the series for big previous cases to go unmentioned (see Case 1-5 up until ''Apollo Justice''), we don't see every day of the lawyers' lifes, and it's not like Phoenix would be willing to go around talking about a pastel talking equine world back on Earth too much.
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*Well, 1-5 wan't mentioned until Apollo Justice because it was the most recent case up to that point. All the other cases came from the original trilogy released in Japan on the GBA. Rise From The Ashes came about as a... sort-of bonus case... to the first game when it was ported to DS. Thus, any mention of it in JFA or T&T would've had to have been retconned in. Considering the tight script and conservation to detail in both games, that wasn't likely to happen.

*ALL THAT BEING SAID, yes, I agree. Canon is tighter on the Ace Attorney side of the crossover, and excepting the addition of the top hat at the end, it fits in neatly at the end of JFA. To add to the evidence pile, we see a glimpse of Adian Andrews during Phoenix's first talk with Sonata. She (Adrian) was wearing her blue managerial clothes from JFA. The only reason Neo would have her like that (as opposed to her obviously more attractive black suit) is to anchor the events at the end of JFA. Judge, can you hand down your verdict yet?

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** Different Troper, but this also leads to a few possibilities for Element Holders.
*** Phoenix Wright of course, as '''Trust'''.
*** The Judge as '''Objectivity'''.
*** Miles Edgeworth as '''Reasoning'''.
*** Dick Gumshoe as '''Diligence'''.
*** The other two are still lost to me.
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If one assumes that Trixie's motivation is the sadness and despair she felt after getting shown up before by Twilight (and thus, having all chances of her career continuing wrecked and thus, ruining her life), then it could be possible that [[spoiler:she's pulling a [[GhostTrick Yomiel]] and]] she's trying to make her feel the pain and despair of having her life crumbling around her. And what better way than to go after what she values most?

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If one assumes that Trixie's motivation is the sadness and despair she felt after getting shown up before by Twilight (and thus, having all chances of her career continuing wrecked and thus, ruining her life), then it could be possible that [[spoiler:she's pulling a [[GhostTrick [[VideoGame/GhostTrick Yomiel]] and]] she's trying to make her feel the pain and despair of having her life crumbling around her. And what better way than to go after what she values most?

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