History WMG / TronUprising

29th Mar '18 12:56:09 PM yesatron
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** A better case could probably be made for [[spoiler:Able]], who at least had the advantage of an offscreen fate-- He could have jumped out of the back of the crane and into the harbor before the electrical shock from the deactivated bombs set the fuel canisters off. And we didn't see ''any'' remains of his recovered by Zed and Mara in the following episode-- no disk, no code voxels, nothing. Maybe a couple guards fished him out of the water and jailed him-- l for one could easily imagine Pavel torturing [[spoiler:Able]] with the knowledge that Pavel was taking over [[spoiler:the garage]] in his absence. Being dropped into a huge engine while holding a bomb, and coming out alive... not so much.

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** A better case could probably be made for [[spoiler:Able]], who at least had the advantage of an offscreen fate-- He could have jumped out of the back of the crane and into the harbor before the electrical shock from the deactivated bombs set the fuel canisters off. And we didn't see ''any'' remains of his recovered by Zed and Mara in the following episode-- no disk, no code voxels, nothing. Maybe a couple guards fished him out of the water and jailed him-- l I, for one one, could easily imagine Pavel torturing [[spoiler:Able]] with the knowledge that Pavel was taking over [[spoiler:the garage]] in his absence. Being dropped into a huge engine while holding a bomb, and coming out alive... not so much.




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*** Okay. Okay. I don't normally go onto TVTropes during work hours, but something just fell into my mind regarding [[spoiler:Able]]. Read below...

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Able survived thanks to the other half of the upgrade disc.]]]]
* We know Pavel ended up with the other half and it subsequently repaired itself. Why wouldn't that be true of Beck's half? Only Beck probably handed it over to Tron after the fact. It's entirely possible Tron then used it to face Dyson, as he was both psychotically aggressive and operating well above his established physical threshold during their fight. Tron, ashamed, secretly hands the disk over to the most technologically capable ally he has after the fact, the only one who might be well, able to curtail its mental effects: [[spoiler:Able]]. There's in-story cause for it, too: [[spoiler:Able]] infiltrated Dyson's Purgos project shortly after "Scars," and "We Both Know How This Ends" established him as something of a NonActionGuy. There's two key pieces of evidence in favor of this:

** 1) [[spoiler:Able]] seems a little less careful and mentally focused than usual searching the facility.
** 2) When attacked by the Black Guard, he accidentally knocks one out. Fair enough, but slowing the video down show his ''unarmored'' elbow smashing through the Guard's helmet with no force behind it. The Guard literally knocked himself out by running into a stationary enemy. [[spoiler:Able]] himself seems delightedly taken aback by this.

** We know that the disc increased one's strength and reflexes. Why wouldn't it increase one's durability as well? Coupled with a conspicuous case of NeverFoundTheBody, it's possible he survived his apparent fate and is still alive.
16th Aug '17 9:08:49 PM Allronix
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It was pointed out on Website/DeviantArt that the two characters have a bizarre resemblance to one another; not just in appearance, but ''attitude'' (much like the way Programs resembled their creators physically and mentally) The way Jet and Alan interact can also be creepily similar to the way Beck and Tron interact; Jet and Beck being reckless idealists, while Tron and Alan are older, cautious, and more embittered.

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It was pointed out on Website/DeviantArt [[http://anonmonitor.tumblr.com/post/164206607042/bruceboxleitner-bruceboxleitner-sits-down and in this]] Website/{{Tumblr}} post that the two characters have a bizarre resemblance to one another; not just in appearance, but ''attitude'' (much like the way Programs resembled their creators physically and mentally) The way Jet and Alan interact can also be creepily similar to the way Beck and Tron interact; Jet and Beck being reckless idealists, while Tron and Alan are older, cautious, and more embittered.
16th Apr '17 5:12:58 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Beck is [[SpyKids The Guy]].]]

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[[WMG: Beck is [[SpyKids [[Film/SpyKids The Guy]].]]
10th Apr '17 9:33:18 AM StrigiformeLover
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[[WMG: Tron is a [[Manchurian Agent]].]]

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[[WMG: Tron is a [[Manchurian Agent]].ManchurianAgent for CLU.]]
19th Jan '17 9:07:32 AM Allronix
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* Additional FridgeBrilliance: Killing an ally, civilian, or anyone who is ''not'' actively shooting at Jet in the game nets you a NonstandardGameOver. And the comic establishes he had a massive HeroicBSOD over the digital lives he ''did'' have to take. Think about Beck's unwillingness to use lethal force, even against enemies.
2nd Jan '17 6:00:01 PM nombretomado
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* [[PreviouslyOn When recounting what had happened before]] the archive's voice makes sarcastic commentary. Clearly the archive is GLaDOS.

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* [[PreviouslyOn When recounting what had happened before]] the archive's voice makes sarcastic commentary. Clearly the archive is GLaDOS.
[=GLaDOS=].
29th Dec '16 9:47:27 PM StrigiformeLover
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They are both [[ActorAllusion portrayed by Elijah Wood]], and they both exist within a virtual reality. The show may have been canceled, but [[FridgeHorror we know Beck's ultimate fate thanks to ''Spy Kids 3D: Game Over]]:[[spoiler: Beck dies.]]

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They are both [[ActorAllusion portrayed by Elijah Wood]], and they both exist within a virtual reality. The show may have been canceled, but [[FridgeHorror we know Beck's ultimate fate thanks to ''Spy Kids 3D: Game Over]]:[[spoiler: Beck dies.]]

[[WMG: Tron is a [[Manchurian Agent]].
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12th Mar '16 10:25:13 AM Allronix
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[[WMG: Or maybe Beck was made from a combination of Tron and Yori's code]]

It's possible that a Tron upgrade was being worked on. And while Tron is very good at stopping threats? He can't fix the underlying breech that caused it. Yori, meanwhile, has no combat functions, but is an amazing planner and builder. So, say Alan and/or Lora get the idea to use code from both their Programs to make an upgraded security system...that turns out to favor his "mother's" mechanical talent and not his "father's" security function. The project is scrapped, but Flynn decides "Ah, heck. I'll send the little guy to The Grid." And as we all know, Flynn was horrible with explanations. Luckily, Programs don't have the same concept of family as humans. (See Clu's inability to understand why Sam was important, and [=Ma3a's=] inability to understand "father")
29th Feb '16 7:24:03 AM SlaughterhouseDb
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* In the first movie, Crom was a compound interest program, and Ram was an actuarial program. Their skills as warriors are more like soldiering in the sense of "I used to do this, now I do this - but I haven't lost that other skill." There's no canon reason to believe that additional combat subroutines couldn't be added to functioning programs, even if those abilities are later deprecated - much like Abel's.

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* ** In the first movie, Crom was a compound interest program, and Ram was an actuarial program. Their skills as warriors are more like soldiering in the sense of "I used to do this, now I do this - but I haven't lost that that other skill." There's no canon reason to believe that additional combat subroutines couldn't be added to functioning programs, even if those abilities are later deprecated - much like Abel's.



* The "Tron" training Beck is, pardon the ActorAllusion, as much a falsehood as [[Series/BabylonFive Talia Winters]]. Tron already said that he was badly injured and left for dead, with no explanation for how he escaped Clu. Furthermore, Clu didn't so much as pause before telling Tesler that Tron was dead. By having Beck pose as Tron start a resistance movement, Clu will be able to have a young, naive, and inexperienced Program posing as a ''much'' more experienced one, rallying his enemies from hiding and making them all the easier to round up and destroy.

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* * The "Tron" training Beck is, pardon the ActorAllusion, as much a falsehood as [[Series/BabylonFive Talia Winters]]. Tron already said that he was badly injured and left for dead, with no explanation for how he escaped Clu. Furthermore, Clu didn't so much as pause before telling Tesler that Tron was dead. By having Beck pose as Tron start a resistance movement, Clu will be able to have a young, naive, and inexperienced Program posing as a ''much'' more experienced one, rallying his enemies from hiding and making them all the easier to round up and destroy.



*** Most likely explainable as it's just been too long, and they've forgotten what he looked like.
*** The "T" on Rinzler's uniform is barely noticeable and lacks the circle around it that Tron and Beck have.

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*** **** Most likely explainable as it's just been too long, and they've forgotten what he looked like.
*** **** The "T" on Rinzler's uniform is barely noticeable and lacks the circle around it that Tron and Beck have.
29th Feb '16 7:23:32 AM SlaughterhouseDb
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* In the first movie, Crom was a compound interest program, and Ram was an actuarial program. Their skills as warriors are more like soldiering in the sense of "I used to do this, now I do this - but I haven't lost that other skill." There's no canon reason to believe that additional combat subroutines couldn't be added to functioning programs, even if those abilities are later deprecated - much like Abel's.
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