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* [[spoiler: They're really 5 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus; named after the first five cities which fell to the Decepticons.]]
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* [[spoiler: They're really 5 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus; named after the first five cities which fell to the Decepticons.Decepticons, though they are only code names.]]
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* [[spoiler: They're really 3 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus; named after the first five cities which fell to the Decepticons.]]
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* [[spoiler: They're really 3 5 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus; named after the first five cities which fell to the Decepticons.]]
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* [[spoiler: They're really 3 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus]]Tesarus; named after the first five cities which fell to the Decepticons.]]
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* [[spoiler: They're really 3 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus]]
* [[spoiler: They're really 3 original characters, Tarn, Vos, Kaon, Helex, and Tesarus]]
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Quintessons: they created the Transformers in several continuities. Also, The 6th issue mentions that every one of Drift's theories on who they are are wrong, implying that they will defy expectations. Also, the only time they appeared, in a carving in Spotlight Wheelie, will be revisited in the other ongoing, where Orion Pax goes to the system the carving was in.
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Quintessons: they created the Transformers in several continuities. Also, The 6th issue mentions that every one of Drift's theories on who they are are wrong, implying that they will defy expectations. Also, the only time they appeared, in a carving in Spotlight Wheelie, will be revisited in the other ongoing, where Orion Pax goes to the system the carving was in.in.
[[WMG: Roberts is Putting the Franchise Back Together Again]]
Basically, if you read ''ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers'' and his Ongoing issues as a Deconstruction of the franchise, showing all the brutal ugliness of what Cybertronian society and the Cybertronian Civil War would actually be like... this series feels a lot like it's trying to Reconstruct the franchise again. It still takes an in-depth deconstructive look at things like names and transforming and psychological effects of the war, and it's still gritty and creepy in many ways, but with an overall feeling of adventure, humor, glory, and the good guys triumphing over the bad ones.\\
Even characters like Drift are a microcosm of this; he's essentially had all of his elements deconstructed (how his fundamentalist nature, preaching, and turncoat-ness would ''actually'' be viewed by the others), and then put together in a way that is more enjoyable and sympathetic to the audience.
[[WMG: Roberts is Putting the Franchise Back Together Again]]
Basically, if you read ''ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers'' and his Ongoing issues as a Deconstruction of the franchise, showing all the brutal ugliness of what Cybertronian society and the Cybertronian Civil War would actually be like... this series feels a lot like it's trying to Reconstruct the franchise again. It still takes an in-depth deconstructive look at things like names and transforming and psychological effects of the war, and it's still gritty and creepy in many ways, but with an overall feeling of adventure, humor, glory, and the good guys triumphing over the bad ones.\\
Even characters like Drift are a microcosm of this; he's essentially had all of his elements deconstructed (how his fundamentalist nature, preaching, and turncoat-ness would ''actually'' be viewed by the others), and then put together in a way that is more enjoyable and sympathetic to the audience.
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Quintessons: they created the Transformers in several continuities. Also, The 6th issue mentions that every one of Drift's theories on who they are are wrong, implying that they will defy expectations. Also, the only time they appeared, in a carving in Spotlight Wheelie, will be revisited in the ongoing, where Orion Pax goes to the system the carving was in.
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Quintessons: they created the Transformers in several continuities. Also, The 6th issue mentions that every one of Drift's theories on who they are are wrong, implying that they will defy expectations. Also, the only time they appeared, in a carving in Spotlight Wheelie, will be revisited in the other ongoing, where Orion Pax goes to the system the carving was in.
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[[WMGL The Knights of Cybertron are Really]]
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* On the cover there is a guy with the Decepticon faction symbol for a head (And it is a closer representation than Soundwave) He is probably part of the DJD, possibly their leader. The head is so unfamiliar that I'd have to say it's probably Valve, with Gideon coming in for a second guess.
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* On the cover there is a guy with the Decepticon faction symbol for a head (And it is a closer representation than Soundwave) He is probably part of the DJD, possibly their leader. The head is so unfamiliar that I'd have to say it's probably Valve, with Gideon coming in for a second guess.guess.
[[WMGL The Knights of Cybertron are Really]]
Quintessons: they created the Transformers in several continuities. Also, The 6th issue mentions that every one of Drift's theories on who they are are wrong, implying that they will defy expectations. Also, the only time they appeared, in a carving in Spotlight Wheelie, will be revisited in the ongoing, where Orion Pax goes to the system the carving was in.
[[WMGL The Knights of Cybertron are Really]]
Quintessons: they created the Transformers in several continuities. Also, The 6th issue mentions that every one of Drift's theories on who they are are wrong, implying that they will defy expectations. Also, the only time they appeared, in a carving in Spotlight Wheelie, will be revisited in the ongoing, where Orion Pax goes to the system the carving was in.
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** He was even in charge of Squadron X, before Macabre took over.
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** He was even in charge of Squadron X, before Macabre took over.over.
* On the cover there is a guy with the Decepticon faction symbol for a head (And it is a closer representation than Soundwave) He is probably part of the DJD, possibly their leader. The head is so unfamiliar that I'd have to say it's probably Valve, with Gideon coming in for a second guess.
* On the cover there is a guy with the Decepticon faction symbol for a head (And it is a closer representation than Soundwave) He is probably part of the DJD, possibly their leader. The head is so unfamiliar that I'd have to say it's probably Valve, with Gideon coming in for a second guess.
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** He was even in charge of Squadron X.
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** He was even in charge of Squadron X.X, before Macabre took over.
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* Valve: the traitor from the Wreckers who became a con, again, another callback to the Wreckers, and he was mentioned in passing in this series.
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* Valve: the traitor from the Wreckers who became a con, again, another callback to the Wreckers, and he was mentioned in passing in this series.series.
** He was even in charge of Squadron X.
** He was even in charge of Squadron X.
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** Hailstorm: Big, intimidating, and sene with Lugnut in Autocracy
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** Hailstorm: Big, intimidating, and sene had a scene with Lugnut in Autocracy
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* Scrash: an obscure air-decepticon (According to TransformersAnimated, he looks like Skyquake).
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* Scrash: an obscure air-decepticon (According to TransformersAnimated, he looks like Skyquake).Skyquake).
* Valve: the traitor from the Wreckers who became a con, again, another callback to the Wreckers, and he was mentioned in passing in this series.
* Valve: the traitor from the Wreckers who became a con, again, another callback to the Wreckers, and he was mentioned in passing in this series.
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*** Heavyload and Rodablock were also seen in close proximity to Lugnut, perhaps that group became the DJD.
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*** Heavyload and Rodablock were also seen in close proximity to Lugnut, perhaps that group became the DJD.DJD.
* Scrash: an obscure air-decepticon (According to TransformersAnimated, he looks like Skyquake).
* Scrash: an obscure air-decepticon (According to TransformersAnimated, he looks like Skyquake).
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* Turmoil: The member who does to Cybertron instead to disrupt the peace, based on the fact he'l appear in the July issue of RID.
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* Turmoil: The member who does goes to Cybertron instead to disrupt the peace, based on the fact he'l appear in the July issue of RID.
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*** Heavyload and Rodablock were also seen in close proximity to Lugnut, , perhaps that group became the DJD.
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*** Heavyload and Rodablock were also seen in close proximity to Lugnut, , perhaps that
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* Lugnut: Loyal, deadly, and already seen in Autocracy.
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* Lugnut: Loyal, deadly, and already seen in Autocracy.Autocracy.
* Hailstorm: Big, intimidating, and scene with Lugnut in Autocracy, perhaps that team became the DJD.
* Hailstorm: Big, intimidating, and scene with Lugnut in Autocracy, perhaps that team became the DJD.
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* Trannis: An obscure decepticon dictator from the comics. James might bring him into the modern day, complete with new design.
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* Trannis: An obscure decepticon dictator from the comics. James might bring him into the modern day, complete with new design.design.
* Lugnut: Loyal, deadly, and already seen in Autocracy.
* Lugnut: Loyal, deadly, and already seen in Autocracy.
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* Gideon: A con mentioned in passing in Bullets from Wreckers. Roberts made plenty of call-backs to the series, and Gideon did kill plenty of Bots with [[spoiler: Ironfists chemicals sold to him by Skyfall]]
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* Gideon: A con mentioned in passing in Bullets from Wreckers. Roberts made plenty of call-backs to the series, and Gideon did kill plenty of Bots with [[spoiler: Ironfists chemicals sold to him by Skyfall]]Skyfall]]
* Trannis: An obscure decepticon dictator from the comics. James might bring him into the modern day, complete with new design.
* Trannis: An obscure decepticon dictator from the comics. James might bring him into the modern day, complete with new design.
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* Obsidian and/or Strika: this one's a little far out, but maybe Roberts will make G1 incarnations of these guys, and they'll be loyal to this Megatron.
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* Obsidian and/or Strika: this one's a little far out, but maybe Roberts will make G1 incarnations of these guys, and they'll be loyal to this Megatron.Megatron.
* Gideon: A con mentioned in passing in Bullets from Wreckers. Roberts made plenty of call-backs to the series, and Gideon did kill plenty of Bots with [[spoiler: Ironfists chemicals sold to him by Skyfall]]
* Gideon: A con mentioned in passing in Bullets from Wreckers. Roberts made plenty of call-backs to the series, and Gideon did kill plenty of Bots with [[spoiler: Ironfists chemicals sold to him by Skyfall]]
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* Punch//Counterpunch: many people's idea of Agent 113, same WMG.
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* Punch//Counterpunch: Punch/Counterpunch: many people's idea of Agent 113, same WMG.
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* Obsidian or and/or Strika: this one's a little far out, but maybe Roberts will make G1 incarnations of these guys, and they'll be loyal to this Megatron.
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[[WMG: The Members of The Decepticon Justice Division are]]
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[[WMG: The Members of The Decepticon Justice Division are]]Division]]
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* For fans of relatively obscure and/or foreign Transformers, having Deathsaurus turn up in this series would be quite a [[IncrediblyLamePun victory]].
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* For fans of relatively obscure and/or foreign Transformers, having Deathsaurus turn up in this series would be quite a [[IncrediblyLamePun victory]].victory]].
[[WMG: The Members of The Decepticon Justice Division are]]
There would be about 5, because the solicitation said so. They are the 5 most deadly and loyal cons.
* Skids: Based on the above WMG, The forum on the link says that Crosscut (From the Wreckers series) was mistaken for a DJD member. There is another guy named Crosscut, an Autobot (Or is he?), and his retool is Skids.
* Warmonger: same WMG, he's obscure, and he's an Autobot Spy, possibly Agent 113 in this continuity.
* Punch//Counterpunch: many people's idea of Agent 113, same WMG.
* Deathsaurus: The con on the issue 8 cover looks like him, based on the above WMG.
* Blackshadow: One of the phase sixers, and therefore most powerful, in the only scene he appeared in, he seemed loyal to megatron, besides, it will be another call-back to Wreckers.
* Sixshot: Probably repaired after Spotlight Metroplex. Like Blackshadow, one of the most powerful cons, though he's not as loyal, judging from Devastation, so maybe not.
* Turmoil: The member who does to Cybertron instead to disrupt the peace, based on the fact he'l appear in the July issue of RID.
* Thunderwing: Not an actual member, but maybe they found his body and will control it and use it against the Autobots.
* Obsidian or Strika: this one's a little far out, but maybe Roberts will make G1 incarnations of these guys, and they'll be loyal to this Megatron.
[[WMG: The Members of The Decepticon Justice Division are]]
There would be about 5, because the solicitation said so. They are the 5 most deadly and loyal cons.
* Skids: Based on the above WMG, The forum on the link says that Crosscut (From the Wreckers series) was mistaken for a DJD member. There is another guy named Crosscut, an Autobot (Or is he?), and his retool is Skids.
* Warmonger: same WMG, he's obscure, and he's an Autobot Spy, possibly Agent 113 in this continuity.
* Punch//Counterpunch: many people's idea of Agent 113, same WMG.
* Deathsaurus: The con on the issue 8 cover looks like him, based on the above WMG.
* Blackshadow: One of the phase sixers, and therefore most powerful, in the only scene he appeared in, he seemed loyal to megatron, besides, it will be another call-back to Wreckers.
* Sixshot: Probably repaired after Spotlight Metroplex. Like Blackshadow, one of the most powerful cons, though he's not as loyal, judging from Devastation, so maybe not.
* Turmoil: The member who does to Cybertron instead to disrupt the peace, based on the fact he'l appear in the July issue of RID.
* Thunderwing: Not an actual member, but maybe they found his body and will control it and use it against the Autobots.
* Obsidian or Strika: this one's a little far out, but maybe Roberts will make G1 incarnations of these guys, and they'll be loyal to this Megatron.
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** It was saying "[[ICannotSelfTerminate Kill me]]" but the character really was [[spoiler: Overlord]]
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* Unless it's actually saying "[[ICannotSelfTerminate Kill me]]" and they just didn't happen to start listening at the beginning of the loop.
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He's a big name Con who hasn't appeared yet in the IDW verse. Also, the cover with Grimlock has him attacking two apparent Decepticons, one has a head that resembles Deathsaurus.
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He's a big name Con who hasn't appeared yet in the IDW verse. Also, the cover with Grimlock has him attacking two apparent Decepticons, one has a head that resembles Deathsaurus.Deathsaurus.
* For fans of relatively obscure and/or foreign Transformers, having Deathsaurus turn up in this series would be quite a [[IncrediblyLamePun victory]].
* For fans of relatively obscure and/or foreign Transformers, having Deathsaurus turn up in this series would be quite a [[IncrediblyLamePun victory]].
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And he's not happy. He's going to be in the series at least by issue 8. Besides, the thing in the basement says Me kill over and over, who else talks like that?
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And he's not happy. He's going to be in the series at least by issue 8. Besides, the thing in the basement says Me kill over and over, who else talks like that?that?
[[WMG: Deathsaurus is in the DJD]]
He's a big name Con who hasn't appeared yet in the IDW verse. Also, the cover with Grimlock has him attacking two apparent Decepticons, one has a head that resembles Deathsaurus.
[[WMG: Deathsaurus is in the DJD]]
He's a big name Con who hasn't appeared yet in the IDW verse. Also, the cover with Grimlock has him attacking two apparent Decepticons, one has a head that resembles Deathsaurus.
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* Lots of people think that it was Punch/Counterpunch, the Autobot Double-spy, because he's one of the few Autobot spies there is, also he's the most iconic (IDW might have been talking about giving him a mini-series). I, however, think that it's [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Warmonger Warmonger]]. He's just the obscure kind of guy that Roberts would include.
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* Lots of people think that it was Punch/Counterpunch, the Autobot Double-spy, because he's one of the few Autobot spies there is, also he's the most iconic (IDW might have been talking about giving him a mini-series). I, however, think that it's [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Warmonger Warmonger]]. He's just the obscure kind of guy that Roberts would include.include.
[[WMG: The thing in the basement is Grimlock]]
And he's not happy. He's going to be in the series at least by issue 8. Besides, the thing in the basement says Me kill over and over, who else talks like that?
[[WMG: The thing in the basement is Grimlock]]
And he's not happy. He's going to be in the series at least by issue 8. Besides, the thing in the basement says Me kill over and over, who else talks like that?
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* Lots of people think that it was Punch/Counterpunch, the Autobot Double-spy, because he's one of the few Autobot spies there is, also he's the most iconic (IDW might have been talking about giving him a mini-series). I, however, think that it's [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Warmonger Warmanger]]. He's just the obscure kind of guy that Roberts would include.
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* Lots of people think that it was Punch/Counterpunch, the Autobot Double-spy, because he's one of the few Autobot spies there is, also he's the most iconic (IDW might have been talking about giving him a mini-series). I, however, think that it's [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Warmonger Warmanger]].Warmonger]]. He's just the obscure kind of guy that Roberts would include.
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Based on [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=290150#290150 this convo]] from the IDW forums.
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Based on [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=290150#290150 this convo]] from the IDW forums.forums.
The bonus story in the LSOTW called bullets, say that Agent 113 was the Autobot's inside man in the DJD.
* Lots of people think that it was Punch/Counterpunch, the Autobot Double-spy, because he's one of the few Autobot spies there is, also he's the most iconic (IDW might have been talking about giving him a mini-series). I, however, think that it's [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Warmonger Warmanger]]. He's just the obscure kind of guy that Roberts would include.
The bonus story in the LSOTW called bullets, say that Agent 113 was the Autobot's inside man in the DJD.
* Lots of people think that it was Punch/Counterpunch, the Autobot Double-spy, because he's one of the few Autobot spies there is, also he's the most iconic (IDW might have been talking about giving him a mini-series). I, however, think that it's [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Warmonger Warmanger]]. He's just the obscure kind of guy that Roberts would include.
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[[WMG: Skids is Agent 113, and member of the DJD.]]
Based on [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=290150#290150 this convo]] from the IDW forums.
[[WMG: Skids is Agent 113, and member of the DJD.]]
Based on [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=290150#290150 this convo]] from the IDW forums.
