History WMG / ToddInTheShadowsTrainwreckords

** ''The Saga Continues...'': Spearheaded by a flop I'm Back, Bitch single and Puffy changing his official moniker to his alternative nickname, this record served as a true sequel to ''No Way Out''. Unfortunately, Bad Boy's heavyweights were all long gone by 2001, so the "Bad Boy Family" here was made up of lesser-known (and less acclaimed) names. While even ''Forever'' went Platinum and spawned a #2 hit upon release, this record dropped off the radar quickly and only went Gold, pretty much ensuring the permanent demise of Bad Boy as a supreme empire in the hip hop world. While "Bad Boy for Life" enjoyed a bit of RevivalByCommercialization through its use in the ''Film/BadBoysForLife'' trailer, the album itself hasn't fared better with time, and while Diddy would score a couple more hits after this album, solo and with Dirty Money, any attempt at recapturing his former late '90s glory days was diminished by a string of sexual misconduct and abuse accusations and lawsuits from late 2023 onwards.

** ''The Saga Continues...'': Spearheaded by a flop I'm Back, Bitch single and Puffy changing his official moniker to his alternative nickname, this record served as a true sequel to ''No Way Out''. Unfortunately, Bad Boy's heavyweights were all long gone by 2001, so the "Bad Boy Family" here was made up of lesser-known (and less acclaimed) names. While even ''Forever'' went Platinum and spawned a #2 hit upon release, this record dropped off the radar quickly and only went Gold. Diddy eventually scored a few more hit singles, but the failure of this album pretty much ensured the permanent demise of Bad Boy as a supreme empire in the hip hop world. While "Bad Boy for Life" enjoyed a bit of RevivalByCommercialization through its use in the ''Film/BadBoysForLife'' trailer, the album itself hasn't fared better with time.

** ''The Block'': A failed comeback attempt 2 decades after the band's peak, falling off the charts extremely quickly and only charting one minor top 40 hit. Despite recruiting fellow '80s Boston boyband Music/NewEdition on one track, the album mostly targeted a younger audience, notably featuring several productions by [=RedOne=] and guest spots from various popular musicians at the time such as Music/{{Akon}}, the Music/PussycatDolls, Music/NeYo, and Music/LadyGaga, the latter of which's breakout debut album and industry-revitalizing ''The Fame'' came out at roughly the same time. Todd has previously noted the lack of nostalgia for late '80s bubblegum pop like there was for late '90s bubblegum pop, which could be a major discussion point here.

* ''Think Tank'' by Music/{{Blur}}: After being one of the defining British rock bands of the 90's, this 2003 effort suffered from a massively TroubledProduction -- the most notable issue being guitarist Graham Coxon leaving the band due to drug issues. As such, the rest of the band was fairly miserable during its making, and after the album's tour was done, they called it quits. They have reunited (with Coxon) for occasional live tours and two (admittedly well received) albums in 2015 and 2023, but the glory years were long past them at that point. The album itself was a success critically and commercially -- though not to the extent of their 90's output -- but is the most divisive album in their catalogue, with many considering to essentially be a Damon Albarn solo album in disguise (especially since it sounds quite a lot like [[Music/{{Gorillaz}} Albarn's other big musical project at the time]]). While the quality and commercial performance of the album don't strictly put it into ''Trainwreckords'' territory, the story behind the album means it may be covered for similar reasons to ''Two the Hard Way'' and ''Kilroy Was Here'', depending on whether or not he is considering covering them on ''One Hit Wonderland'' instead as he stated [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1779980601803842025?t=GQUCM5DDGxPLvBgtgfUXeg&s=19 reconsidering]] his stance on it in 2024 after an incredibly tepid audience response to their Coachella set that year.

* ''Think Tank'' by Music/{{Blur}}: After being one of the defining British rock bands of the 90's, this 2003 effort suffered from a massively TroubledProduction -- the most notable issue being guitarist Graham Coxon leaving the band due to drug issues. As such, the rest of the band was fairly miserable during its making, and after the album's tour was done, they called it quits. They have reunited (with Coxon) for occasional live tours and one (admittedly well recieved) album in 2015, but the glory years were long past them at that point. The album itself was a success critically and commercially -- though not to the extent of their 90's output -- but is the most divisive album in their catalogue, with many considering to essentially be a Damon Albarn solo album in disguise (especially since it sounds quite a lot like [[Music/{{Gorillaz}} Albarn's other big musical project at the time]]). While the quality and commercial performance of the album don't strictly put it into ''Trainwreckords'' territory, the story behind the album means it may be covered for similar reasons to ''Two the Hard Way'' and ''Kilroy Was Here'', depending on whether or not he is considering covering them on ''One Hit Wonderland'' instead as he stated [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1779980601803842025?t=GQUCM5DDGxPLvBgtgfUXeg&s=19 reconsidering]] his stance on it in 2024 after an incredibly tepid audience response to their Coachella set that year.

* ''Think Tank'' by Music/{{Blur}}: After being one of the defining British rock bands of the 90's, this 2003 effort suffered from a massively TroubledProduction -- the most notable issue being guitarist Graham Coxon leaving the band due to drug issues. As such, the rest of the band was fairly miserable during its making, and after the album's tour was done, they called it quits. They have reunited (with Coxon) for occasional live tours and one (admittedly well recieved) album in 2015, but the glory years were long past them at that point. The album itself was a success critically and commercially -- though not to the extent of their 90's output -- but is the most divisive album in their catalogue, with many considering to essentially be a Damon Albarn solo album in disguise (especially since it sounds quite a lot like [[Music/{{Gorillaz}} Albarn's other big musical project at the time]]). While the quality and commercial performance of the album don't strictly put it into ''Trainwreckords'' territory, the story behind the album means it may be covered for similar reasons to ''Two the Hard Way'' and ''Kilroy Was Here'', depending on whether or not he is considering covering them on ''One Hit Wonderland'' instead as he stated [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1779980601803842025?t=GQUCM5DDGxPLvBgtgfUXeg&s=19 reconsidering]] his stance on it in 2024 after an incredibly tepid response from Coachella attendees to Blur's set that year.

* ''Think Tank'' by Music/{{Blur}}: After being one of the defining British rock bands of the 90's, this 2003 effort suffered from a massively TroubledProduction -- the most notable issue being guitarist Graham Coxon leaving the band due to drug issues. As such, the rest of the band was fairly miserable during its making, and after the album's tour was done, they called it quits. They have reunited (with Coxon) for occasional live tours and one (admittedly well recieved) album in 2015, but the glory years were long past them at that point. The album itself was a success critically and commercially -- though not to the extent of their 90's output -- but is the most divisive album in their catalogue, with many considering to essentially be a Damon Albarn solo album in disguise (especially since it sounds quite a lot like [[Music/{{Gorillaz}} Albarn's other big musical project at the time]]). While the quality and commercial performance of the album don't strictly put it into ''Trainwreckords'' territory, the story behind the album means it may be covered for similar reasons to ''Two the Hard Way'' and ''Kilroy Was Here''.

** ''The Block'': A failed comeback attempt 2 decades after the band's peak, falling off the charts extremely quickly and only charting one minor top 40 hit. Despite recruiting fellow '80s Boston boyband Music/NewEdition on one track, the album mostly targeted a younger audience, notably featuring several productions by [=RedOne=] and a guest spot from Music/LadyGaga, whose breakout debut album and industry-revitalizing ''The Fame'' came out at roughly the same time. Todd has previously noted the lack of nostalgia for late '80s bubblegum pop like there was for late '90s bubblegum pop, which could be a major discussion point here.

** ''The Block'': A failed comeback attempt 2 decades after the band's peak, falling off the charts extremely quickly and only charting one minor top 40 hit. Despite featuring fellow '80s Boston boyband Music/NewEdition on one track, the album mostly targeted a younger audience, notably featuring several productions by [=RedOne=] and a guest spot from Music/LadyGaga, whose breakout debut album and industry-revitalizing ''The Fame'' came out at roughly the same time. Todd has previously noted the lack of nostalgia for late '80s bubblegum pop like there was for late '90s bubblegum pop, which could be a major discussion point here.

** ''The Block'': A failed comeback attempt 2 decades after the band's peak, falling off the charts extremely quickly and only charting one minor top 40 hit. Todd has previously noted the lack of nostalgia for late '80s bubblegum pop like there was for late '90s bubblegum pop, which could be a major discussion point here.

* ''A Night to Remember'' by Music/CyndiLauper: It yielded one last top 10 hit for Cyndi Lauper, but considering the chart-topping, multi-Platinum success she had achieved earlier in the eighties [[note]]Even her SophomoreSlump, ''True Colors'' had a #1 hit with its title track and two more big singles after that[[/note]], this third album firmly ended her claim to pop greatness and indeed proved to be the last time she ever sniffed the top 40 before shifting her focus towards other avenues of entertainment. Despite initially dismissing the album's failure as too normal to qualify it as a Trainwreckord in the Hootie & the Blowfish episode, Todd later [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1776634504293318970 changed his mind]] after learning more about it.

* ''A Night to Remember'' by Music/CyndiLauper: It yielded one last top 10 hit for Cyndi Lauper, but considering the chart-topping, multi-Platinum success she had achieved earlier in the eighties [[note]]Even her SophomoreSlump, ''True Colors'' had a #1 hit with its title track and two more big singles after that[[/note]], this third album firmly ended her claim to pop greatness and indeed proved to be the last time she ever sniffed the charts before shifting her focus towards other avenues of entertainment. Despite initially dismissing the album's failure as too normal to qualify it as a Trainwreckord in the Hootie & the Blowfish episode, Todd later [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1776634504293318970 changed his mind]] after learning more about it.

** ''NKOTBSB'' (with Music/BackstreetBoys): A supergroup project between two boybands from different generations that did little to revitalize interest for either.

* ''Face the Music'' by Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock: This was very briefly touched upon in the "Give It To You" OHW review, so it's possible that Todd may revisit this for a more in-depth review, which he [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1163097939398594562?s=20 hinted at]] on Twitter.

* ''Cry'' by Music/FaithHill: Alongside Music/ShaniaTwain and Music/LeAnnRimes, Faith Hill was notable for being a '90s country singer with huge pop crossover success, which eventually culminated in the international smash movie ballad [[Film/PearlHarbor "There You'll Be"]]. However, her career quickly disintegrated after the lukewarm reception to this album, which alienated her core listener base of country traditionalists with its descent into [=R&B=] on songs such as the third single, "One". As a result, the record yielded no top 10 country hits, and even with Hill's NewbieBoom of mainstream pop fans, it only had one minor top 40 hit and a mere 2x Platinum certification, a notable drop from the blockbuster success of her late '90s albums. Her next album strictly targeted the country market[[note]]The leadoff single "Mississippi Girl" even directly confronts the controversy of her pop phase[[/note]] to fair success, but her crossover superstardom was all but over by that point, and her career went mostly dormant thereafter. In 2022, Todd confirmed that this album is [[https://twitter.com/shadowtodd/status/1585769372496236545?s=46&t=_HPVCMHDXpqVSafU02R3rA "penciled in as a definite candidate for the show"]], later covering it in early 2024.

* ''Cry'' by Music/FaithHill: Alongside Music/ShaniaTwain and Music/LeAnnRimes, Faith Hill was notable for being a '90s country singer with huge pop crossover success, which eventually culminated in the international smash movie ballad [[Film/PearlHarbor "There You'll Be"]]. However, her career quickly disintegrated after the lukewarm reception to this album, which alienated her core listener base of country traditionalists with its descent into [=R&B=] on songs such as the third single, "One". As a result, the record yielded no top 10 country hits, and even with Hill's NewbieBoom of mainstream pop fans, it only had one minor top 40 hit and a mere 2x Platinum certification, a notable drop from the blockbuster success of her late '90s albums. Her next album strictly targeted the country market[[note]]The leadoff single "Mississippi Girl" even directly confronts the controversy of her pop phase[[/note]] to fair success, but her crossover superstardom was all but over by that point, and her career went mostly dormant thereafter. In 2022, Todd confirmed that this album is [[https://twitter.com/shadowtodd/status/1585769372496236545?s=46&t=_HPVCMHDXpqVSafU02R3rA "penciled in as a definite candidate for the show."]] If he covers it, expect him to discuss the record's cross-genre approach as it pertains to modern Nashville trends. Some comparisons to Music/TaylorSwift, whose transition from country to pop proved much more successful, may also be in order.

* ''High Road'' by Music/{{Kesha}} (2020): After 2017's ''Rainbow'', a more mature effort, pushed her back in the spotlight, Kesha attempted to mix her new style with a return to her party girl persona for this album. The end result was a record that, while generally well-received, was otherwise seen as underwhelming compared to her previous album and did little for her commercially. [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1339297325110288384 Todd listed Kesha 2nd on his top 3 artists whose stock fell the most in 2020, only behind Tory Lanez]]. After featuring on a remix of Music/WalkerHayes's "Fancy Like" in 2021, she released her follow-up album ''Gag Order'' in 2023, which despite critical acclaim, only peaked at #187 on the ''Billboard 200'' upon release, signifying that her mainstream relevance was well and truly over. If Todd covers this album, expect him to mention the CareerResurrection her former record producer Dr. Luke, who she publicly accused of abuse, experienced during this album's release.

* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake invoked his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his credibility as a pop megastar, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd mentioned]] that he was waiting to see whether or not Timberlake recovered on his followup before proceeding with the episode for ''Man of the Woods''. Said followup, ''Everything I Thought It Was'', finally dropped in 2024 to lukewarm reception, failing to chart any of its tracks in the week following its release aside from the advanced lead single "Selfish", which only peaked at #19[[note]]10 spots lower than both of ''Man of the Woods''' main hits despite more longevity than "Filthy"[[/note]] and got a [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750548643604754747 bashing]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750550995279720865 from]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750554647939703219 Todd]] on Twitter. Compounding matters were unflattering revelations about Justin in ex-girlfriend Music/BritneySpears' autobiography ''The Woman in Me'', as well as Justin's return to Music/{{NSYNC}} reversing the strenuously maintained independence that defined his solo career[[note]]With *NSYNC featuring on a Justin Timberlake album for the first time on ''Everything I Thought It Was''[[/note]]. As a result, it's now likely that the ''Man of the Woods'' video is officially on its way.

* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake invoked his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his credibility as a pop megastar, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd mentioned]] that he was waiting to see whether or not Timberlake recovered on his followup before proceeding with the episode for ''Man of the Woods''. Said followup, ''Everything I Thought It Was'', finally dropped in 2024 to lukewarm reception, failing to chart any of its tracks in the week following its release aside from the advanced lead single "Selfish", which only peaked at #19[[note]]10 spots lower than both of ''Man of the Woods''' main hits despite more longevity than "Filthy"[[/note]] and got a [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750548643604754747 bashing]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750550995279720865 from]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750554647939703219 Todd]] on Twitter. Compounding matters were unflattering revelations about Justin in ex-girlfriend Music/BritneySpears' autobiography ''The Woman in Me'', as well as Justin's return to Music/{{NSYNC}} signaling the end of the strenuously maintained independence from them that defined his solo career[[note]]With *NSYNC featuring on a Justin Timberlake album for the first time on ''Everything I Thought It Was''[[/note]]. As a result, it's now likely that the ''Man of the Woods'' video is officially on its way.

* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake invoked his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his credibility as a pop megastar, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd mentioned]] that he was waiting to see whether or not Timberlake recovered on his followup before proceeding. Said followup, ''Everything I Thought It Was'', finally dropped in 2024 to lukewarm reception, failing to chart any of its tracks in the week following its release aside from the advanced lead single "Selfish", which only peaked at #19[[note]]10 spots lower than both of ''Man of the Woods''' main hits despite more longevity than "Filthy"[[/note]] and got a [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750548643604754747 bashing]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750550995279720865 from]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750554647939703219 Todd]] on Twitter. Compounding matters were unflattering revelations about Justin in ex-girlfriend Music/BritneySpears' autobiography ''The Woman in Me'', as well as Justin's return to Music/{{NSYNC}} signaling the end of the strenuously maintained independence from them that defined his solo career. As a result, it's now likely that the ''Man of the Woods'' video is officially on its way.

* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his credibility as a pop megastar, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode. Said followup, ''Everything I Thought It Was'', finally dropped in 2024 to lukewarm reception, failing to chart any of its tracks in the week following its release aside from the advanced lead single "Selfish", which only reached #19[[note]]10 spots lower than both of ''Man of the Woods''' main hits[[/note]] and got a [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750548643604754747 thrashing]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750550995279720865 from]] [[https://x.com/ShadowTodd/status/1750554647939703219 Todd]] on Twitter. As a result, it's now likely that the ''Man of the Woods'' video is officially on its way.

* ''Twisted Angel'' by Music/LeAnnRimes: Due to struggles with her management team, Rimes' career suffered from genre whiplash and quickly disintegrated throughout the early 2000s. With more creative freedom, this record was supposed to be a fresh start, focusing primarily on the pop stylings of "Can't Fight the Moonlight" and largely breaking clean from her country roots. With the teen pop genre basically dead by the time of its release, the record completely tanked and she never found much global success ever again.

* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode.

* ''Cry'' by Music/FaithHill: Alongside Music/ShaniaTwain and Music/LeAnnRimes, Faith Hill was notable for being a '90s country singer with huge pop crossover success, which eventually culminated in the international smash movie ballad [[Film/PearlHarbor "There You'll Be"]]. However, her career quickly disintegrated after the lukewarm reception to this album, which alienated her core listener base of country traditionalists with its descent into [=R&B=] on songs such as the third single, "One". As a result, the record yielded no top 10 country hits, and even with Hill's NewbieBoom of mainstream pop fans, it only had one minor top 40 hit and a mere 2x Platinum certification, a notable drop from the blockbuster success of her late '90s albums. Her next album strictly targeted the country market[[note]]The leadoff single "Mississippi Girl" even directly confronts the controversy of her pop phase[[/note]] to fair success, but her crossover superstardom was all but over by that point, and her career went mostly dormant thereafter. In 2022, Todd confirmed that this album is [[https://twitter.com/shadowtodd/status/1585769372496236545?s=46&t=_HPVCMHDXpqVSafU02R3rA "penciled in as a definite candidate for the show."]] If he covers it, expect him to discuss the record's cross-genre approach as it pertains to modern Nashville trends. Some comparisons to Music/TaylorSwift, whose transition from country to pop proved much more successful, may also be in order.

* ''My Teenage Dream Ended'' by Farrah Abraham: A ''Series/TeenMom'' star tried to make an album with no prior experience, resulting in an album that was widely criticized for its production, its bizarre feel, and heavy use of AutoTune. The album's producer revealed that during recording, Abraham wasn't even singing to the music but to a click track, and had to be told how to turn her diary entries into melodic compositions. Oddly enough, it achieved cult status in avant-garde/outsider music circles and has been cited as a major influence on the deconstructed club and bubblegum bass/{{hyperpop}} music scenes. Abraham didn't really have any chance of success in the first place, but Todd might find the album's reception (and inexplicable [[VindicatedByHistory vindication]]) interesting enough for a ''Trainwreckords'' episode. Also, his reaction to the music would probably be entertaining, whether he finds it interestingly bad or thinks it's just awful.

* ''Donda 2'' by Music/KanyeWest (2022): The original ''Donda'' polarized critics, but was so heavily hyped that it was a major commercial success and continued Kanye's relevancy despite increasing scrutiny towards his offstage antics. This album, however, was seen as a huge misstep due to the fact that it was locked to Kanye's $200+ Stem Player, leading to widespread piracy. Those who ''did'' listen to it panned it for the unfinished nature of its songs and the fact that much of the lyrics focused on his divorce from Creator/KimKardashian and his bitterness towards [[Creator/PeteDavidson her new boyfriend]]. While Kanye voiced plans to update it for a wider release a-la ''Music/TheLifeOfPablo'', his chances of winning back much of his audience further mitigated from October 2022 onwards thanks to numerous anti-Black[[note]]despite being Black himself[[/note]] and especially antisemitic comments (including praising UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler), to the point where there was major demand to remove all of his music from streaming services a-la Music/RKelly. West [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1610371896583008256 topped Todd's list]] of artists whose stock dropped the most in 2022. Despite all this though, his 2024 collaboration album with Ty Dolla $ign, ''VULTURES 1'' topped the Billboard 200 upon release and generated a #2 single with "Carnival", although time remains to be seen if that would be just a fluke.

* ''Donda 2'' by Music/KanyeWest (2022): The original ''Donda'' polarized critics, but was so heavily hyped that it was a major commercial success and continued Kanye's relevancy despite increasing scrutiny towards his offstage antics. This album, however, was seen as a huge misstep due to the fact that it was locked to Kanye's $200+ Stem Player, leading to widespread piracy. Those who ''did'' listen to it panned it for the unfinished nature of its songs and the fact that much of the lyrics focused on his divorce from Creator/KimKardashian and his bitterness towards [[Creator/PeteDavidson her new boyfriend]]. While Kanye voiced plans to update it for a wider release a-la ''Music/TheLifeOfPablo'', his chances of winning back much of his audience further mitigated from October 2022 onwards thanks to numerous anti-Black[[note]]despite being Black himself[[/note]] and especially antisemitic comments (including praising UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler), to the point where there was major demand to remove all of his music from streaming services a-la Music/RKelly. West [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1610371896583008256 topped Todd's list]] of artists whose stock dropped the most in 2022.

This is a series where Todd looks at notable albums that are widely considered to have either [[CreatorKiller killed a popular artist's career, caused the breakup of a popular band]], or at the very least killed their relevancy in mainstream popular culture (in Todd's own words: "albums that flopped so hard, that they ended careers"), usually down to it being horrible, or being completely misguided in some way (e.g. a failed [[GenreShift change in musical direction]]).

* ''The Science of Things'' by Music/{{Bush}}: While this British band was criticised for being a lightweight derivative of grunge acts like Music/{{Nirvana}} and Music/PearlJam, their debut album ''Sixteen Stone'' went 6x platinum and spawned more than a few hits. While the followup ''Razorblade Suitcase'' was a notorious SophomoreSlump, this NewSoundAlbum came in the wake of alternative music drifting away from grunge in the late 1990s, which forced Bush to change with the times. To do this, they integrated electronica into their sound, which performed decently on the charts but garnered [[BrokenBase polarizing responses]]. Though "The Chemicals Between Us" was a huge hit on rock radio, their popularity and relevance faded soon afterwards. Their more basic, less interesting 2001 follow-up ''Golden State'' was a complete flop, causing them to go on hiatus for several years, although they did earn one last rock #1 in 2011 after reforming.

* ''Father of All Motherfuckers'' by Music/GreenDay (2020): An attempted RevisitingTheRoots album that quickly became one of the worst rated records of 2020, mocked for its poor quality and juvenile title (which had to be {{censored|Title}} in most releases to the arguably improved ''Father of All...''), and Todd's [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1259547550903869441?s=20 initial impression]] of the titular single suggests he'd find the album worth covering. While many people feel Green Day's careers were already over after either ''Music/TwentyFirstCenturyBreakdown'' or the ''¡Uno! ¡Dos! ¡Tré!'' trilogy, Todd stated in the ''Podcast/SongVsSong'' podcast that Green Day were still a hugely relevant band throughout the 2010s like Music/{{Aerosmith}} was in the '90s and early 2000s, so he's most likely to single out ''Father of All...'' as the band's true Trainwreckord instead depending on whether or not he considers their well-received 2024 album ''Saviors'' another genuine comeback.