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7th Mar '16 1:45:38 PM SeanRenaud
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*** That failed to stick too. As did sending her to an inescapable prison dimension. [[spoiler: As of Season Seven Bonnie has effectively outlived Elena Gilbert. Bonus points, Damon could have saved Elena by killing Bonnie and he didn't even blink while saving Bonnie.]]



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24th Sep '15 2:26:03 PM Morgenthaler
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Klausís mother was [[NightWorld a witch who became a vampire by drinking babyís blood]]. She was a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent lamia]], a vampire who could have babies and she turned Klausís father into a vampire as well. Her daughter was a [[IdenticalGrandson doppelganger]] because she was a girl. Klausís sister had a baby with a human and that diluted the lamia blood, so the next doppelganger turned up some generations after, increasing in generational span until Katherine, and then Elena.

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Klausís mother was [[NightWorld [[Literature/NightWorld a witch who became a vampire by drinking babyís blood]]. She was a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent lamia]], a vampire who could have babies and she turned Klausís father into a vampire as well. Her daughter was a [[IdenticalGrandson doppelganger]] because she was a girl. Klausís sister had a baby with a human and that diluted the lamia blood, so the next doppelganger turned up some generations after, increasing in generational span until Katherine, and then Elena.
11th Sep '14 6:44:56 PM Christy
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Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that Amara's bloodine still exists and they are witches (but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.

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Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that Amara's bloodine still exists and they some of them are witches (but witches-because even if Amara wasn't a witch, Katherine's grandmother was a traveler witch and both Katherine and Nadia could use traveler magic as well so it's probably genetic-(but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.
11th Sep '14 6:37:00 PM Christy
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Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that there are witches(but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.

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Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that there Amara's bloodine still exists and they are witches(but witches (but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.
9th Sep '14 9:56:10 PM Christy
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[[WMG:Elena is not the end of Amara's bloodline]]
Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that there are witches(but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.



[[WMG:Elena is not the end of Amara's bloodline]]
Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that there are witches(but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.

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[[WMG:Elena is not the end of Amara's bloodline]]
Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that there are witches(but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.
9th Sep '14 9:55:08 PM Christy
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[[WMG:Elena is not the end of Amara's bloodline]]
Because come on,do you really believe that both Isobel and whichever of her parents was descended from Amara were both only children? Yes I know that it is possible but the show has yet to mention if Isobel was only child or if she had no cousins,hell we don't even know how many children Nadia had(only that she must have had at least one child). Also despite most of the Salvatore family being wiped out in 1864,both Zach and that other Silas doppleganger prove that some scrap of that family and therefore Silas's bloodline still exists so why couldn't the same have happened with Amara's bloodline? I propose that there are witches(but no more dopplegangers since Elena didn't-and probably won't- have children)and we'll meet them eventually. Maybe Davina from The Originals is one of them(she does resemble Elena after all) yes we've seen Davina's mother but that's it,the writers haven't given us anything about Davina's bloodline so it's possible.
16th May '14 1:34:35 PM MercenX
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[[spoiler:Rebekah now wants the cure to ram it down Klaus' throat and turn him human again. But who's to say that Klaus won't

immediately die as rapid aging descends on him? Or if that doesn't happen, at best he'll only be alive for another fifty to

sixty years. Either way, once he dies, so do all the vampires who share his bloodline, which includes Stefan himself, Damon,

Caroline, Tyler and Elena. Stefan will deceive Rebekah in some way, and keep the cure for whatever he wants to use it for.]]
* Not necessarily. We haven't seen (or perhaps I missed it) any evidence that werewolves die of old age and the cure won't

stop him from being a wolf. In addition we don't really know what effect curing Klaus or Klaus dying as a mortal will have on

the rest of his line. It's possible that curing him counts (for the curse) as the elimination of the vampire line and will

kill all his spawn or it may sever the link entirely and his death afterwards won't do anything. It's also possible, actually

very likely that Klaus was bluffing about being the original of their line. I don't care what any of them say I don't believe

that all six originals (including quite possibly their father for some period of time before he turned good) that they have

any way of confirming who sired anybody past a generation or two and it's all but certain that Klaus didn't sire Katherine

for obvious reasons.

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[[spoiler:Rebekah now wants the cure to ram it down Klaus' throat and turn him human again. But who's to say that Klaus won't

won't immediately die as rapid aging descends on him? Or if that doesn't happen, at best he'll only be alive for another fifty to

to sixty years. Either way, once he dies, so do all the vampires who share his bloodline, which includes Stefan himself, Damon,

Damon, Caroline, Tyler and Elena. Stefan will deceive Rebekah in some way, and keep the cure for whatever he wants to use it for.]]
* Not necessarily. We haven't seen (or perhaps I missed it) any evidence that werewolves die of old age and the cure won't

won't stop him from being a wolf. In addition we don't really know what effect curing Klaus or Klaus dying as a mortal will have on

on the rest of his line. It's possible that curing him counts (for the curse) as the elimination of the vampire line and will

will kill all his spawn or it may sever the link entirely and his death afterwards won't do anything. It's also possible, actually

actually very likely that Klaus was bluffing about being the original of their line. I don't care what any of them say I don't believe

believe that all six originals (including quite possibly their father for some period of time before he turned good) that they have

have any way of confirming who sired anybody past a generation or two and it's all but certain that Klaus didn't sire Katherine

Katherine for obvious reasons.



Elena looks exactly like an immortal vampire from the 1860s, and survived a car crash that killed both her parents. The

simplest explanation is that she actually is the vampire, and "Elena" is just her cover identity. As for the sun, maybe she

just has an earring that protects her.

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Elena looks exactly like an immortal vampire from the 1860s, and survived a car crash that killed both her parents. The

The simplest explanation is that she actually is the vampire, and "Elena" is just her cover identity. As for the sun, maybe she

she just has an earring that protects her.



* A) She is [[EnsembleDarkhorse so popular]] that the writers will want to bring her back, and flashbacks alone aren't enough

for that.

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* A) She is [[EnsembleDarkhorse so popular]] that the writers will want to bring her back, and flashbacks alone aren't enough

enough for that.



Klausís mother was [[NightWorld a witch who became a vampire by drinking babyís blood]]. She was a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent

lamia]], a vampire who could have babies and she turned Klausís father into a vampire as well. Her daughter was a

[[IdenticalGrandson doppelganger]] because she was a girl. Klausís sister had a baby with a human and that diluted the lamia

blood, so the next doppelganger turned up some generations after, increasing in generational span until Katherine, and then

Elena.

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Klausís mother was [[NightWorld a witch who became a vampire by drinking babyís blood]]. She was a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent

[[OurVampiresAreDifferent lamia]], a vampire who could have babies and she turned Klausís father into a vampire as well. Her daughter was a

a [[IdenticalGrandson doppelganger]] because she was a girl. Klausís sister had a baby with a human and that diluted the lamia

lamia blood, so the next doppelganger turned up some generations after, increasing in generational span until Katherine, and then

then Elena.



They share the exact same attributes as the First - incorporeal, can only appear as dead people. In 3x06 Vicki attempted to

become corporeal, the First's exact plan in Buffy. Vicki's plan seemed oddly OOC, far more on the evil side of the spectrum

that alive!Vicki was. Explanation: it's not Vicki, it's the First Evil playing on Matt's insecurities.

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They share the exact same attributes as the First - incorporeal, can only appear as dead people. In 3x06 Vicki attempted to

to become corporeal, the First's exact plan in Buffy. Vicki's plan seemed oddly OOC, far more on the evil side of the spectrum

spectrum that alive!Vicki was. Explanation: it's not Vicki, it's the First Evil playing on Matt's insecurities.



Now that they have set up a very good reason why one or both of them would betray the others and save Klaus one of them has

to go. Either Caroline simply because Klaus get bored of her saying now triggering Tyler to want his vengence no matter the

cost or Tyler because Klaus doesn't like competition. Either way unless some third option presents itself one of those two

isn't long for this world.
* Partially Jossed. [[spoiler: Everybody believes Tyler is dead and in addition his body was taken over by Klaus. I know

having your soul stuffed way way down while someone else controls your body and everybody who loves you thinking your dead

isn't quite the same as actually being dead but it ranks rather close.]]

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Now that they have set up a very good reason why one or both of them would betray the others and save Klaus one of them has

has to go. Either Caroline simply because Klaus get bored of her saying now triggering Tyler to want his vengence no matter the

the cost or Tyler because Klaus doesn't like competition. Either way unless some third option presents itself one of those two

two isn't long for this world.
* Partially Jossed. [[spoiler: Everybody believes Tyler is dead and in addition his body was taken over by Klaus. I know

know having your soul stuffed way way down while someone else controls your body and everybody who loves you thinking your dead

dead isn't quite the same as actually being dead but it ranks rather close.]]



He mentions in an earlier episode that his wife and son were killed a while ago. And in episode ten, he fervently says that

when Silas is raised, he will "bring back everyone" who died for him to be released. The only way he can be so sure about his

family coming back to life is if he arranged their deaths to begin with.
* Jossed. Shane's son died in an accident, and his wife - a witch - tried to use expression to revive him, but her powers

ended up consuming her.

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He mentions in an earlier episode that his wife and son were killed a while ago. And in episode ten, he fervently says that

that when Silas is raised, he will "bring back everyone" who died for him to be released. The only way he can be so sure about his

his family coming back to life is if he arranged their deaths to begin with.
* Jossed. Shane's son died in an accident, and his wife - a witch - tried to use expression to revive him, but her powers

powers ended up consuming her.



He's been missing since the start of the season, and while he can't stand to be near his siblings (according to Kol), that

doesn't mean he's not been keeping an eye on them. Subsequently, he notices Klaus' activities in Europe, learns that he dug

up the Hunter's Sword and realized that Klaus is searching for the cure. It doesn't take long for him to discover that the

recently turned Elena is the reason, so now he wants the cure strictly so Klaus doesn't make any more hybrids that will pose

a threat to the vampire race. Either that or he's got a witch who can replicate Esther's binding spell, so that when he finds

the cure he'll use it on himself, thereby curing the rest of his siblings and giving them back their humanity (even though

that begs the question of how he got Elena's human blood to begin with).

Plus, we've seen every other Original on the show now, each with their own reason for wanting the cure. It's strange that

Elijah - the one who always has his own agenda/code - wouldn't participate.
** [[spoiler: There's another Hunter on Isle Silas with a completed Mark of his own, who's out to protect Jeremy and kill

anyone who's looking for the cure. Add that, plus the unknown person who came looking for the tombstone and was compelled to

mutilate/kill himself rather than say who he worked for, and this seems likely.]]

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He's been missing since the start of the season, and while he can't stand to be near his siblings (according to Kol), that

that doesn't mean he's not been keeping an eye on them. Subsequently, he notices Klaus' activities in Europe, learns that he dug

dug up the Hunter's Sword and realized that Klaus is searching for the cure. It doesn't take long for him to discover that the

the recently turned Elena is the reason, so now he wants the cure strictly so Klaus doesn't make any more hybrids that will pose

pose a threat to the vampire race. Either that or he's got a witch who can replicate Esther's binding spell, so that when he finds

finds the cure he'll use it on himself, thereby curing the rest of his siblings and giving them back their humanity (even though

though that begs the question of how he got Elena's human blood to begin with).

Plus, we've seen every other Original on the show now, each with their own reason for wanting the cure. It's strange that

that Elijah - the one who always has his own agenda/code - wouldn't participate.
** [[spoiler: There's another Hunter on Isle Silas with a completed Mark of his own, who's out to protect Jeremy and kill

kill anyone who's looking for the cure. Add that, plus the unknown person who came looking for the tombstone and was compelled to

to mutilate/kill himself rather than say who he worked for, and this seems likely.]]



Stefan is still not so good around human blood, and Damon makes a poor mentor. The originals will probably be leaving town,

and Caroline is dealing with her own problems. Katherine will swoop in and help her transition into a vampire -- not without

an ulterior motive of course. She'll earn points with Stefan, and it never hurts to have another Vampire that looks exactly

like you when you have as many enemies as Katherine has.

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Stefan is still not so good around human blood, and Damon makes a poor mentor. The originals will probably be leaving town,

town, and Caroline is dealing with her own problems. Katherine will swoop in and help her transition into a vampire -- not without

without an ulterior motive of course. She'll earn points with Stefan, and it never hurts to have another Vampire that looks exactly

exactly like you when you have as many enemies as Katherine has.



Since coming to Mystic Falls, she hasn't really done anything. She is a literal MacGuffin that's sitting right under the

protagonists' noses. And like the Doppleganger, it's her blood that's the cure. The only problem is that if a vampire wants

to be cured, they have to drain every single last drop of it, which will be a problem for Elena once she finds out.

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Since coming to Mystic Falls, she hasn't really done anything. She is a literal MacGuffin that's sitting right under the

the protagonists' noses. And like the Doppleganger, it's her blood that's the cure. The only problem is that if a vampire wants

wants to be cured, they have to drain every single last drop of it, which will be a problem for Elena once she finds out.



She doesn't seem to miss being human all that much. My guess is, she'll use it to either a) force-feed it to Klaus and kill

him, freeing her from his vengeance forever or b) use it to keep Silas in check. Katherine's too smart to risk the end of the

world unless she had a back-up plan to make sure Silas doesn't turn on her.

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She doesn't seem to miss being human all that much. My guess is, she'll use it to either a) force-feed it to Klaus and kill

kill him, freeing her from his vengeance forever or b) use it to keep Silas in check. Katherine's too smart to risk the end of the

the world unless she had a back-up plan to make sure Silas doesn't turn on her.



[[spoiler: If she was truly dead, nature wouldn't have kept the Petrova doppelganger line going like it did with the

Salvatore line. Once Qetsiyah killed her, a part of her consciousness remained in that tiny tube filled with her blood. And

now that Katherine's taken the cure and has her ancestor's blood coursing through her veins, Amara is slowly being reborn

through her, so she can finally give Silas the peace and salvation he needs.]]
* [[spoiler: Silas drained every drop from her, but she still has a heartbeat. ''Something'' is going on with the cure

coursing through Katherine's system, where it's Amara or something else.]]

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[[spoiler: If she was truly dead, nature wouldn't have kept the Petrova doppelganger line going like it did with the

the Salvatore line. Once Qetsiyah killed her, a part of her consciousness remained in that tiny tube filled with her blood. And

And now that Katherine's taken the cure and has her ancestor's blood coursing through her veins, Amara is slowly being reborn

reborn through her, so she can finally give Silas the peace and salvation he needs.]]
* [[spoiler: Silas drained every drop from her, but she still has a heartbeat. ''Something'' is going on with the cure

cure coursing through Katherine's system, where it's Amara or something else.]]



[[spoiler: Once a vampire being takes the cure, they become human...and then slowly begin to feel the weight of all the years

they "lived". Their teeth fall out, their hair becomes gray and then eventually they simply turn to dust. That's what's going

on with Katherine (and presumably Silas, unless the cure effects him and Amara differently).]]

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[[spoiler: Once a vampire being takes the cure, they become human...and then slowly begin to feel the weight of all the years

years they "lived". Their teeth fall out, their hair becomes gray and then eventually they simply turn to dust. That's what's going

going on with Katherine (and presumably Silas, unless the cure effects him and Amara differently).]]



Elena and co. will revive all of the Original family. Elena will obviously try to rescue Stefan, and will realize that she

doesn't have the firepower to even hope to touch Klaus. So she will track down Elijah (probably using Bonnie's tracking spell

- remember Bonnie needed Elena's brother's blood to find her, and now they have Klaus' (Elijah's brother) blood). Elijah is

buried along with the rest of his family, so when he wakes up he will then revive all his brothers and sister. Cue

[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown 6-on-1 Orginal-Vampire sneak attack]].

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Elena and co. will revive all of the Original family. Elena will obviously try to rescue Stefan, and will realize that she

she doesn't have the firepower to even hope to touch Klaus. So she will track down Elijah (probably using Bonnie's tracking spell

spell - remember Bonnie needed Elena's brother's blood to find her, and now they have Klaus' (Elijah's brother) blood). Elijah is

is buried along with the rest of his family, so when he wakes up he will then revive all his brothers and sister. Cue

Cue [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown 6-on-1 Orginal-Vampire sneak attack]].



[[spoiler: Since only potential vampire hunters and/or hunters can see the supernatural tattoo on Connor's arm, chances are

that something will happen to one of these hunters, and Jeremy will end up taking his/her place and end up as a reluctant

Dragon to season 4's BigBad]]

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[[spoiler: Since only potential vampire hunters and/or hunters can see the supernatural tattoo on Connor's arm, chances are

are that something will happen to one of these hunters, and Jeremy will end up taking his/her place and end up as a reluctant

reluctant Dragon to season 4's BigBad]]



[[spoiler: Shane told Bonnie ''when'' Jeremy completes his Hunter's mark, that she'll need his help. Why is he so confident

that Jeremy - the newbie Hunter - will be the first to have a full tattoo? It's because Shane knows that once you kill an

Original vampire, every vampire that shares their bloodline will die. Tens of thousands of vampires dying all at once from

killing just one vampire is a pretty efficient way to get that tattoo completed. Shane probably has a white-oak stake

somewhere, or one of the swords the original Five used, and he'll make sure it finds its way into Jeremy's hands so he can

use it to kill whichever Original is [[BackForTheDead coming back to Mystic Falls.]] My money's on Kol, since he hasn't

really gotten any character development beyond 'the crazy one.' Plus, he and Jeremy have prior history together. It would

make sense for Jeremy to be the one to kill him.]]
** Might be moving towards confirmed. [[spoiler: They made a point of bringing Kol back to establish that a) Silas is enough

of a threat to terrify him and b) to steal the last remaining white stake off Rebekah. A confrontation between him and Jeremy

seems more and more likely.]]
** Elena comes up with the idea of killing Kol to complete Jeremy's mark, thereby getting Klaus off his back and [[spoiler:

removing Damon's compulsion to kill Jeremy]], so this is pretty much going to happen at some point.

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[[spoiler: Shane told Bonnie ''when'' Jeremy completes his Hunter's mark, that she'll need his help. Why is he so confident

confident that Jeremy - the newbie Hunter - will be the first to have a full tattoo? It's because Shane knows that once you kill an

an Original vampire, every vampire that shares their bloodline will die. Tens of thousands of vampires dying all at once from

from killing just one vampire is a pretty efficient way to get that tattoo completed. Shane probably has a white-oak stake

stake somewhere, or one of the swords the original Five used, and he'll make sure it finds its way into Jeremy's hands so he can

can use it to kill whichever Original is [[BackForTheDead coming back to Mystic Falls.]] My money's on Kol, since he hasn't

hasn't really gotten any character development beyond 'the crazy one.' Plus, he and Jeremy have prior history together. It would

would make sense for Jeremy to be the one to kill him.]]
** Might be moving towards confirmed. [[spoiler: They made a point of bringing Kol back to establish that a) Silas is enough

enough of a threat to terrify him and b) to steal the last remaining white stake off Rebekah. A confrontation between him and Jeremy

Jeremy seems more and more likely.]]
** Elena comes up with the idea of killing Kol to complete Jeremy's mark, thereby getting Klaus off his back and [[spoiler:

[[spoiler: removing Damon's compulsion to kill Jeremy]], so this is pretty much going to happen at some point.



[[spoiler: She's tapped into serious dark magic to immobilize Klaus, and as of the third season finale, she helped him

possess Tyler when Alaric staked his body. When Tyler!Klaus asks her why, she bluntly tells him that she did it to save her

friends, and that she's "done letting all of you push [me] around." In the next season, she'll probably develop an addiction

to dark magic.]]

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[[spoiler: She's tapped into serious dark magic to immobilize Klaus, and as of the third season finale, she helped him

him possess Tyler when Alaric staked his body. When Tyler!Klaus asks her why, she bluntly tells him that she did it to save her

her friends, and that she's "done letting all of you push [me] around." In the next season, she'll probably develop an addiction

addiction to dark magic.]]



** Might not be completely jossed yet. [[spoiler: The 'magic' that Shane has her practicing has even more consequences than

dark magic, but she doesn't know it yet.]]
** Confirmed as of 4x15. [[spoiler: She's going to help Silas bring back every supernatural from the other side, all so she

can see Jeremy and her Grams again.]]
*** Jossed until 5x22. [[spoiler: Bonnie never planned to help Silas but her spell to revive Jeremy inadvertently freed

Silas. In season five, as of the final episodes, Bonnie works with Silas to free her friends from the other side as he wants

to be revived as well. However, she lets him get sucked into oblivion by the mysterious force that is destroying the other

side.]]

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** Might not be completely jossed yet. [[spoiler: The 'magic' that Shane has her practicing has even more consequences than

than dark magic, but she doesn't know it yet.]]
** Confirmed as of 4x15. [[spoiler: She's going to help Silas bring back every supernatural from the other side, all so she

she can see Jeremy and her Grams again.]]
*** Jossed until 5x22. [[spoiler: Bonnie never planned to help Silas but her spell to revive Jeremy inadvertently freed

freed Silas. In season five, as of the final episodes, Bonnie works with Silas to free her friends from the other side as he wants

wants to be revived as well. However, she lets him get sucked into oblivion by the mysterious force that is destroying the other

other side.]]



Klaus and Elijah was in love with Tatia (who came before Katherine). Stefan and Damon were in love with Katherine, and later

Elena. Like Rebekah says Elena being on the island doesn't serve much purpose (even from a writers standpoint). Silas wakes

up, mistakes Elena for the girl he loved... would give her a bigger purpose on the island.
** With the revelation that [[spoiler: Silas himself is the Original Doppelganger of Stefan, it seems likely that whoever his

true love was/is, she might be Tatia's ancestor.]]

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Klaus and Elijah was in love with Tatia (who came before Katherine). Stefan and Damon were in love with Katherine, and later

later Elena. Like Rebekah says Elena being on the island doesn't serve much purpose (even from a writers standpoint). Silas wakes

wakes up, mistakes Elena for the girl he loved... would give her a bigger purpose on the island.
** With the revelation that [[spoiler: Silas himself is the Original Doppelganger of Stefan, it seems likely that whoever his

his true love was/is, she might be Tatia's ancestor.]]



It's as simple as that. When Tyler is revealed as still being alive he'll either come up with an explanation. Either the

hybrids simply survived because they weren't vampires, and thus weren't subject to the same rules for some arbitrary reason

or he'll reveal that Klaus somehow survived. From there it just writes itself until the truth one way or another comes out.

to:

It's as simple as that. When Tyler is revealed as still being alive he'll either come up with an explanation. Either the

the hybrids simply survived because they weren't vampires, and thus weren't subject to the same rules for some arbitrary reason

reason or he'll reveal that Klaus somehow survived. From there it just writes itself until the truth one way or another comes out.






As of the Season 5 finale, [[spoiler:Bonnie and Damon]] are dead as the other side is collapsing. Most likely, Season 6 will

see them return either mid-season or by the time of the finale. For the time being, however, likely [[spoiler:Liv]] will take

[[spoiler:Bonnie]]'s place while [[spoiler:Enzo]] takes [[spoiler:Damon]]'s place albeit temporarily. Granted, both have

ditched Mystic Falls, but they can always come back and that just may happen especially when guilt and debt play a role.

to:

As of the Season 5 finale, [[spoiler:Bonnie and Damon]] are dead as the other side is collapsing. Most likely, Season 6 will

will see them return either mid-season or by the time of the finale. For the time being, however, likely [[spoiler:Liv]] will take

take [[spoiler:Bonnie]]'s place while [[spoiler:Enzo]] takes [[spoiler:Damon]]'s place albeit temporarily. Granted, both have

have ditched Mystic Falls, but they can always come back and that just may happen especially when guilt and debt play a role.



The show doesn't hesitate to kill off supporting cast members and likes a body count for finales. Matt thinks that Caroline

killed his sister, which makes him rife for being used by any number of villains, and he doesn't serve much of a role on the

show other than being Caroline's love interest. He's got AlasPoorScrappy written all over him.

to:

The show doesn't hesitate to kill off supporting cast members and likes a body count for finales. Matt thinks that Caroline

Caroline killed his sister, which makes him rife for being used by any number of villains, and he doesn't serve much of a role on the

the show other than being Caroline's love interest. He's got AlasPoorScrappy written all over him.



The show has gone two seasons and failed to do anything with [[TheScrappy Bonnie]]. Matt could at least fill a

[[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander-esque]] role as the only real Normal on the show and now that [[spoiler:his sister is

back]], he will probably get some more interesting story-lines. While Bonnie on the other hand has even less of a character

than Matt, and it seems like she will be sidelined in her own romance storyline what with the return of

[[spoiler:[[EnsembleDarkhorse Anna]] and Vicki]]. Plus, her new powers have made her [[TooAwesomeToUse too useful to use]],

as she is basically a walking DeusExMachina now and so the show runs the risk of relying on her too much to easily solve

plots. AlasPoorScrappy is more or less the only option left for her. Either way, [[AnyoneCanDie the show is bound to kill off

another main character]] sooner or later, and Matt and Bonnie seem to be the most likely candidates.

to:

The show has gone two seasons and failed to do anything with [[TheScrappy Bonnie]]. Matt could at least fill a

a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander-esque]] role as the only real Normal on the show and now that [[spoiler:his sister is

is back]], he will probably get some more interesting story-lines. While Bonnie on the other hand has even less of a character

character than Matt, and it seems like she will be sidelined in her own romance storyline what with the return of

of [[spoiler:[[EnsembleDarkhorse Anna]] and Vicki]]. Plus, her new powers have made her [[TooAwesomeToUse too useful to use]],

use]], as she is basically a walking DeusExMachina now and so the show runs the risk of relying on her too much to easily solve

solve plots. AlasPoorScrappy is more or less the only option left for her. Either way, [[AnyoneCanDie the show is bound to kill off

off another main character]] sooner or later, and Matt and Bonnie seem to be the most likely candidates.



** Honestly if your last name isn't Salvatore, you'll die in this show. For a while being a Gilbert was safe but as of season

four every single Gilbert we've met has died. [[spoiler: Though it is a show about vampires and not all of them have stayed

dead.]]

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** Honestly if your last name isn't Salvatore, you'll die in this show. For a while being a Gilbert was safe but as of season

season four every single Gilbert we've met has died. [[spoiler: Though it is a show about vampires and not all of them have stayed

stayed dead.]]



Think about it - he was alive in the 20s, is fabulously wealthy but with a DarkAndTroubledPast. He didn't actually die at the

end of the novel, he just faked his own death because his father was onto him. And Klaus is certainly into making big

romantic gestures and wearing smart suits. That's why he's so attracted to Caroline - she reminds him of Daisy, but is also

caring and strong (unlike Daisy).

to:

Think about it - he was alive in the 20s, is fabulously wealthy but with a DarkAndTroubledPast. He didn't actually die at the

the end of the novel, he just faked his own death because his father was onto him. And Klaus is certainly into making big

big romantic gestures and wearing smart suits. That's why he's so attracted to Caroline - she reminds him of Daisy, but is also

also caring and strong (unlike Daisy).



Klaus has fought in every war since the battle's of Alexander the Great. In the fourteen hundreds he fought in the same war

as Vlad Dracula in his human life. Klaus and Dracula heard of each other and met on the battlefield. Wanting what Klaus had,

Vlad either had Klaus bite him or met a witch who was willing to turn him into a vampire like Esther did to Klaus.

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Klaus has fought in every war since the battle's of Alexander the Great. In the fourteen hundreds he fought in the same war

war as Vlad Dracula in his human life. Klaus and Dracula heard of each other and met on the battlefield. Wanting what Klaus had,

had, Vlad either had Klaus bite him or met a witch who was willing to turn him into a vampire like Esther did to Klaus.



[[WMG: Atticus Shane needs the Five to kill vampires, and use their completed mark to find and free Silas, the REAL

Original]]
[[spoiler: When a Hunter completes his mark, the resulting map leads to the actual resting place of Silas, who is - according

to Shane's presentation of foreshadowing - the real first vampire to exist, but was sealed by Ketsia before he could change

anyone else. The so-called 'cure' (and also 'weapon,' if Klaus is to be believed) is Silas himself: an insanely powerful

vampire predating the Mikaelsons, whose goal will be to rid the world of the so-called Originals, killing every other

existing vampire/hybrid as well, and then restarting the vampire race from his own blood.]]

[[spoiler: The reason Shane's been pushing Bonnie to perform magic is so she can be powerful enough to break the seal on

Silas' grave. Not only that, but by tapping into dark magic to try and rescue Elena in the fourth season premiere, she set

off the chain of events that will lead to Silas' return. The reason Shane would unleash an all-powerful crazy-evil vampire on

the world is because the true purpose of the Five is to let Silas do his dirty work, and then kill him before he can make new

vampires. He's keeping this to himself is because he knows the Hunters won't kill vampires if it means the end result is

unleashing an evil that will kill innocents as well as vampires.]]

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[[WMG: Atticus Shane needs the Five to kill vampires, and use their completed mark to find and free Silas, the REAL

REAL Original]]
[[spoiler: When a Hunter completes his mark, the resulting map leads to the actual resting place of Silas, who is - according

according to Shane's presentation of foreshadowing - the real first vampire to exist, but was sealed by Ketsia before he could change

change anyone else. The so-called 'cure' (and also 'weapon,' if Klaus is to be believed) is Silas himself: an insanely powerful

powerful vampire predating the Mikaelsons, whose goal will be to rid the world of the so-called Originals, killing every other

other existing vampire/hybrid as well, and then restarting the vampire race from his own blood.]]

[[spoiler: The reason Shane's been pushing Bonnie to perform magic is so she can be powerful enough to break the seal on

on Silas' grave. Not only that, but by tapping into dark magic to try and rescue Elena in the fourth season premiere, she set

set off the chain of events that will lead to Silas' return. The reason Shane would unleash an all-powerful crazy-evil vampire on

on the world is because the true purpose of the Five is to let Silas do his dirty work, and then kill him before he can make new

new vampires. He's keeping this to himself is because he knows the Hunters won't kill vampires if it means the end result is

is unleashing an evil that will kill innocents as well as vampires.]]



** Confirmed, in a way: [[spoiler: Silas became a vampire when he got turned by Qetsiyah, and raising him is bad news indeed,

but he doesn't want to get rid of the Mikaelsons.]]
** And considering the way [[spoiler: Kol - the AxCrazy Original - completely freaked the fuck out when Shane mentioned

Silas' name, it's more than clear that releasing Silas will result in something horrible.]]
** Apparently, [[spoiler: Silas was technically not a vampire (or so he claimed), not needing blood to survive, but only to

feed his powers. As a mortal, he was a sorcerer.]] He's pretty much Dracula.

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** Confirmed, in a way: [[spoiler: Silas became a vampire when he got turned by Qetsiyah, and raising him is bad news indeed,

indeed, but he doesn't want to get rid of the Mikaelsons.]]
** And considering the way [[spoiler: Kol - the AxCrazy Original - completely freaked the fuck out when Shane mentioned

mentioned Silas' name, it's more than clear that releasing Silas will result in something horrible.]]
** Apparently, [[spoiler: Silas was technically not a vampire (or so he claimed), not needing blood to survive, but only to

to feed his powers. As a mortal, he was a sorcerer.]] He's pretty much Dracula.



The main cast are all rather [[DawsonCasting good looking]], which given the weird things that happens to them all, clearly

physical good looks are a curse in the TVD universe. Vampires, werewolves, witches, hybrids, you-name-its never bother the

ordinary looking residents of Mystic Falls.

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The main cast are all rather [[DawsonCasting good looking]], which given the weird things that happens to them all, clearly

clearly physical good looks are a curse in the TVD universe. Vampires, werewolves, witches, hybrids, you-name-its never bother the

the ordinary looking residents of Mystic Falls.



Katherine's main motivation is clearly her own survival - she's ruthless about it, and will do ''anything'' to keep herself

alive. Klaus has it in for her, since she delayed his plans to become The Hybrid by 500 years by turning herself into a

vampire and depriving him of her doppelganger blood.

Klaus need's Elena's doppelganger blood to create more hybrids, which he is obsessed with doing. He is therefore obsessed

with keeping Elena alive long enough to find [[spoiler:the supposed cure for vampirism, so that he can turn her human again

and use her blood to make more hybrids]]. If Katherine finds out about [[spoiler:the cure]], she will try to kill Elena to

make herself the only existing doppelganger, so that Klaus will be forced to keep her alive/not kill her if he wants to ever

[[spoiler:make more hybrids]].

to:

Katherine's main motivation is clearly her own survival - she's ruthless about it, and will do ''anything'' to keep herself

herself alive. Klaus has it in for her, since she delayed his plans to become The Hybrid by 500 years by turning herself into a

a vampire and depriving him of her doppelganger blood.

Klaus need's Elena's doppelganger blood to create more hybrids, which he is obsessed with doing. He is therefore obsessed

obsessed with keeping Elena alive long enough to find [[spoiler:the supposed cure for vampirism, so that he can turn her human again

again and use her blood to make more hybrids]]. If Katherine finds out about [[spoiler:the cure]], she will try to kill Elena to

to make herself the only existing doppelganger, so that Klaus will be forced to keep her alive/not kill her if he wants to ever

ever [[spoiler:make more hybrids]].



Silas' power is to 'bring back the dead.' Vampires are basically undead. If ReviveKillsZombie applies in this universe,

Silas' power will be like pouring a Phoenix Down on a ghoul re: vampires.

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Silas' power is to 'bring back the dead.' Vampires are basically undead. If ReviveKillsZombie applies in this universe,

universe, Silas' power will be like pouring a Phoenix Down on a ghoul re: vampires.



Think about it. [[spoiler: She was dying from a werewolf bite - one he inflicted on her, no less - and the only way to save

her was by drinking his blood. Plus, Tyler would ''never'' leave Caroline alone with Klaus, much less when she's dying. They

planned it together and placed their bets on Klaus' feelings for Caroline to make him do the right thing. She sees something

human in Klaus, sure, but ultimately she was just saying what she thought to save her life.]]

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Think about it. [[spoiler: She was dying from a werewolf bite - one he inflicted on her, no less - and the only way to save

save her was by drinking his blood. Plus, Tyler would ''never'' leave Caroline alone with Klaus, much less when she's dying. They

They planned it together and placed their bets on Klaus' feelings for Caroline to make him do the right thing. She sees something

something human in Klaus, sure, but ultimately she was just saying what she thought to save her life.]]



Qetsiyah didn't know she was pregnant until after she already sealed Silas away. It's why the spell to release Silas calls

for a Bennett witch, as they're part of his line. It's also why the Bennett family of witches are highly regarded in the

supernatural world: their ultimate ancestors are the world's first immortal being and the witch who was powerful enough to

even grant the spell.

to:

Qetsiyah didn't know she was pregnant until after she already sealed Silas away. It's why the spell to release Silas calls

calls for a Bennett witch, as they're part of his line. It's also why the Bennett family of witches are highly regarded in the

the supernatural world: their ultimate ancestors are the world's first immortal being and the witch who was powerful enough to

to even grant the spell.



It contains the calcified blood of Qetsiyah. If anything happens to the cure and Silas goes free, it's going to be the

critical piece in stopping him, but at a great price.
* Partially confirmed. Bonnie needs the tombstone to stop Silas from breaking the veil. And the apparent price? [[spoiler:

''Turning Katherine into a true immortal.'']]

to:

It contains the calcified blood of Qetsiyah. If anything happens to the cure and Silas goes free, it's going to be the

the critical piece in stopping him, but at a great price.
* Partially confirmed. Bonnie needs the tombstone to stop Silas from breaking the veil. And the apparent price? [[spoiler:

[[spoiler: ''Turning Katherine into a true immortal.'']]



When Rebekah found him, he was just barely alive. She used her blood to heal him (assuming vampire blood can cure extreme

blood loss), and now she has him in her pocket for whatever plan she has for Silas and the cure. We only have her word that

he died on the island, after all.

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When Rebekah found him, he was just barely alive. She used her blood to heal him (assuming vampire blood can cure extreme

extreme blood loss), and now she has him in her pocket for whatever plan she has for Silas and the cure. We only have her word that

that he died on the island, after all.



It'll tie up her character arc more neatly than just having her be used as a pawn by Silas and Katherine and then

disappearing off the face of the earth. Since they're an ancient family of werewolves, chances are that they know of Silas

and can be effective against him. So if Silas ever brings the other side, Klaus has a werewolf army to put between him and

Silas and every other vampire that he's killed.

to:

It'll tie up her character arc more neatly than just having her be used as a pawn by Silas and Katherine and then

then disappearing off the face of the earth. Since they're an ancient family of werewolves, chances are that they know of Silas

Silas and can be effective against him. So if Silas ever brings the other side, Klaus has a werewolf army to put between him and

and Silas and every other vampire that he's killed.



[[spoiler: Being a vampire gave her benefits to add to her cunning, so naturally she wants to be strong. Then there's the

fact that her daughter is a vampire as well, and they do have five hundred years to catch up on. Katherine will become a

vampire again so she can spend eternity with Nadia.]]

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[[spoiler: Being a vampire gave her benefits to add to her cunning, so naturally she wants to be strong. Then there's the

the fact that her daughter is a vampire as well, and they do have five hundred years to catch up on. Katherine will become a

a vampire again so she can spend eternity with Nadia.]]



What, you didn't think that just because Buffy beat them and their Frankenstein monster they would just stop trying to make

better monsters did you?

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What, you didn't think that just because Buffy beat them and their Frankenstein monster they would just stop trying to make

make better monsters did you?



They want to get rid of every other supernatural creature in the world. To that end, they'll make a witch drop the veil to

the other side again so they can send their vampire hunting vampires to slaughter all the other supes. Of course, they

obviously don't count on Silas or Tessa, who will use the opportunity to escape and join forces.

to:

They want to get rid of every other supernatural creature in the world. To that end, they'll make a witch drop the veil to

to the other side again so they can send their vampire hunting vampires to slaughter all the other supes. Of course, they

they obviously don't count on Silas or Tessa, who will use the opportunity to escape and join forces.



[[spoiler: But that doesn't mean she's going to stay there. The blood that the Travellers drained from her and Stefan will be

used in some ritual that will bring her back and make them both truly immortal, bringing an end to the doppleganger line.]]

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[[spoiler: But that doesn't mean she's going to stay there. The blood that the Travellers drained from her and Stefan will be

be used in some ritual that will bring her back and make them both truly immortal, bringing an end to the doppleganger line.]]



What began with Silas and Amara will end with the last two human Doppelgangers that are alive. With their deaths, everything

that has happened as a result of Qetsiyah, Silas and Amara's tragedies - the creation of the immortality spell, the

Doppelgangers, the Other Side, the Originals (who were themselves created by an inferior version of Qetsiyah's spell),

vampires, Hunters - will cease to be or suffer something equally cataclysmic. In any case, the Travellers and witches will

use the upset to wipe out the Other Side and free the supernaturals to either move onto the metaphysical plane (where Jenna

and Amara went) or the dark world (where Katharine got sent to).

to:

What began with Silas and Amara will end with the last two human Doppelgangers that are alive. With their deaths, everything

everything that has happened as a result of Qetsiyah, Silas and Amara's tragedies - the creation of the immortality spell, the

the Doppelgangers, the Other Side, the Originals (who were themselves created by an inferior version of Qetsiyah's spell),

spell), vampires, Hunters - will cease to be or suffer something equally cataclysmic. In any case, the Travellers and witches will

will use the upset to wipe out the Other Side and free the supernaturals to either move onto the metaphysical plane (where Jenna

Jenna and Amara went) or the dark world (where Katharine got sent to).



However, the end result - the obliteration of the Other Side as well as any magic that originated from withces - will be the

same.

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However, the end result - the obliteration of the Other Side as well as any magic that originated from withces - will be the

the same.



She has spent two thousand years setting up the events of the last two seasons so she can keep the man she loves with her for

eternity (whether he wants to or not). She is ''not'' going to let the Travelers destroy the Other Side and make Silas' and

her souls wink out of existence.

[[WMG: Related to the above, the 'oblivion' that everyone got sucked into is a pocket universe that Qetsiyah created once the

Other Side started falling apart.]]
Because like hell this show is going to kill off [[spoiler:one-third of its ongoing love triangle.]] Plus, someone as

obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side

to begin with.

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She has spent two thousand years setting up the events of the last two seasons so she can keep the man she loves with her for

for eternity (whether he wants to or not). She is ''not'' going to let the Travelers destroy the Other Side and make Silas' and

and her souls wink out of existence.

[[WMG: Related to the above, the 'oblivion' that everyone got sucked into is a pocket universe that Qetsiyah created once the

the Other Side started falling apart.]]
Because like hell this show is going to kill off [[spoiler:one-third of its ongoing love triangle.]] Plus, someone as

as obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side

Side to begin with.
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[[WMG: Stefan is going to double-cross Rebekah]]
[[spoiler:Rebekah now wants the cure to ram it down Klaus' throat and turn him human again. But who's to say that Klaus won't

immediately die as rapid aging descends on him? Or if that doesn't happen, at best he'll only be alive for another fifty to

sixty years. Either way, once he dies, so do all the vampires who share his bloodline, which includes Stefan himself, Damon,

Caroline, Tyler and Elena. Stefan will deceive Rebekah in some way, and keep the cure for whatever he wants to use it for.]]
* Not necessarily. We haven't seen (or perhaps I missed it) any evidence that werewolves die of old age and the cure won't

stop him from being a wolf. In addition we don't really know what effect curing Klaus or Klaus dying as a mortal will have on

the rest of his line. It's possible that curing him counts (for the curse) as the elimination of the vampire line and will

kill all his spawn or it may sever the link entirely and his death afterwards won't do anything. It's also possible, actually

very likely that Klaus was bluffing about being the original of their line. I don't care what any of them say I don't believe

that all six originals (including quite possibly their father for some period of time before he turned good) that they have

any way of confirming who sired anybody past a generation or two and it's all but certain that Klaus didn't sire Katherine

for obvious reasons.
* And jossed. Rebekah double-crosses Stefan when she finds out there's only one dose of the cure.

[[WMG: Silas is being haunted by Jeremy]]
He keeps talking about how he wants the cure so he can die. Jeremy is telling him he needs to die.
* Jossed: Silas said he defeated the Hunter's curse in minutes

[[WMG: Silas has/had a brother.]]
[[spoiler: And Damon is his Doppelganger.]]
* Jossed.



Elena looks exactly like an immortal vampire from the 1860s, and survived a car crash that killed both her parents. The simplest explanation is that she actually is the vampire, and "Elena" is just her cover identity. As for the sun, maybe she just has an earring that protects her.

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Elena looks exactly like an immortal vampire from the 1860s, and survived a car crash that killed both her parents. The The

simplest explanation is that she actually is the vampire, and "Elena" is just her cover identity. As for the sun, maybe she she

just has an earring that protects her.



* A) She is [[EnsembleDarkhorse so popular]] that the writers will want to bring her back, and flashbacks alone aren't enough for that.

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* A) She is [[EnsembleDarkhorse so popular]] that the writers will want to bring her back, and flashbacks alone aren't enough enough

for that.



Klausís mother was [[NightWorld a witch who became a vampire by drinking babyís blood]]. She was a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent lamia]], a vampire who could have babies and she turned Klausís father into a vampire as well. Her daughter was a [[IdenticalGrandson doppelganger]] because she was a girl. Klausís sister had a baby with a human and that diluted the lamia blood, so the next doppelganger turned up some generations after, increasing in generational span until Katherine, and then Elena.

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Klausís mother was [[NightWorld a witch who became a vampire by drinking babyís blood]]. She was a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent [[OurVampiresAreDifferent

lamia]], a vampire who could have babies and she turned Klausís father into a vampire as well. Her daughter was a a

[[IdenticalGrandson doppelganger]] because she was a girl. Klausís sister had a baby with a human and that diluted the lamia lamia

blood, so the next doppelganger turned up some generations after, increasing in generational span until Katherine, and then then

Elena.



They share the exact same attributes as the First - incorporeal, can only appear as dead people. In 3x06 Vicki attempted to become corporeal, the First's exact plan in Buffy. Vicki's plan seemed oddly OOC, far more on the evil side of the spectrum that alive!Vicki was. Explanation: it's not Vicki, it's the First Evil playing on Matt's insecurities.

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They share the exact same attributes as the First - incorporeal, can only appear as dead people. In 3x06 Vicki attempted to to

become corporeal, the First's exact plan in Buffy. Vicki's plan seemed oddly OOC, far more on the evil side of the spectrum spectrum

that alive!Vicki was. Explanation: it's not Vicki, it's the First Evil playing on Matt's insecurities.



Now that they have set up a very good reason why one or both of them would betray the others and save Klaus one of them has to go. Either Caroline simply because Klaus get bored of her saying now triggering Tyler to want his vengence no matter the cost or Tyler because Klaus doesn't like competition. Either way unless some third option presents itself one of those two isn't long for this world.
* Partially Jossed. [[spoiler: Everybody believes Tyler is dead and in addition his body was taken over by Klaus. I know having your soul stuffed way way down while someone else controls your body and everybody who loves you thinking your dead isn't quite the same as actually being dead but it ranks rather close.]]

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Now that they have set up a very good reason why one or both of them would betray the others and save Klaus one of them has has

to go. Either Caroline simply because Klaus get bored of her saying now triggering Tyler to want his vengence no matter the the

cost or Tyler because Klaus doesn't like competition. Either way unless some third option presents itself one of those two two

isn't long for this world.
* Partially Jossed. [[spoiler: Everybody believes Tyler is dead and in addition his body was taken over by Klaus. I know know

having your soul stuffed way way down while someone else controls your body and everybody who loves you thinking your dead dead

isn't quite the same as actually being dead but it ranks rather close.]]



He mentions in an earlier episode that his wife and son were killed a while ago. And in episode ten, he fervently says that when Silas is raised, he will "bring back everyone" who died for him to be released. The only way he can be so sure about his family coming back to life is if he arranged their deaths to begin with.
* Jossed. Shane's son died in an accident, and his wife - a witch - tried to use expression to revive him, but her powers ended up consuming her.

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He mentions in an earlier episode that his wife and son were killed a while ago. And in episode ten, he fervently says that that

when Silas is raised, he will "bring back everyone" who died for him to be released. The only way he can be so sure about his his

family coming back to life is if he arranged their deaths to begin with.
* Jossed. Shane's son died in an accident, and his wife - a witch - tried to use expression to revive him, but her powers powers

ended up consuming her.



He's been missing since the start of the season, and while he can't stand to be near his siblings (according to Kol), that doesn't mean he's not been keeping an eye on them. Subsequently, he notices Klaus' activities in Europe, learns that he dug up the Hunter's Sword and realized that Klaus is searching for the cure. It doesn't take long for him to discover that the recently turned Elena is the reason, so now he wants the cure strictly so Klaus doesn't make any more hybrids that will pose a threat to the vampire race. Either that or he's got a witch who can replicate Esther's binding spell, so that when he finds the cure he'll use it on himself, thereby curing the rest of his siblings and giving them back their humanity (even though that begs the question of how he got Elena's human blood to begin with).

Plus, we've seen every other Original on the show now, each with their own reason for wanting the cure. It's strange that Elijah - the one who always has his own agenda/code - wouldn't participate.
** [[spoiler: There's another Hunter on Isle Silas with a completed Mark of his own, who's out to protect Jeremy and kill anyone who's looking for the cure. Add that, plus the unknown person who came looking for the tombstone and was compelled to mutilate/kill himself rather than say who he worked for, and this seems likely.]]

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He's been missing since the start of the season, and while he can't stand to be near his siblings (according to Kol), that that

doesn't mean he's not been keeping an eye on them. Subsequently, he notices Klaus' activities in Europe, learns that he dug dug

up the Hunter's Sword and realized that Klaus is searching for the cure. It doesn't take long for him to discover that the the

recently turned Elena is the reason, so now he wants the cure strictly so Klaus doesn't make any more hybrids that will pose pose

a threat to the vampire race. Either that or he's got a witch who can replicate Esther's binding spell, so that when he finds finds

the cure he'll use it on himself, thereby curing the rest of his siblings and giving them back their humanity (even though though

that begs the question of how he got Elena's human blood to begin with).

Plus, we've seen every other Original on the show now, each with their own reason for wanting the cure. It's strange that that

Elijah - the one who always has his own agenda/code - wouldn't participate.
** [[spoiler: There's another Hunter on Isle Silas with a completed Mark of his own, who's out to protect Jeremy and kill kill

anyone who's looking for the cure. Add that, plus the unknown person who came looking for the tombstone and was compelled to to

mutilate/kill himself rather than say who he worked for, and this seems likely.]]



Stefan is still not so good around human blood, and Damon makes a poor mentor. The originals will probably be leaving town, and Caroline is dealing with her own problems. Katherine will swoop in and help her transition into a vampire -- not without an ulterior motive of course. She'll earn points with Stefan, and it never hurts to have another Vampire that looks exactly like you when you have as many enemies as Katherine has.

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Stefan is still not so good around human blood, and Damon makes a poor mentor. The originals will probably be leaving town, town,

and Caroline is dealing with her own problems. Katherine will swoop in and help her transition into a vampire -- not without without

an ulterior motive of course. She'll earn points with Stefan, and it never hurts to have another Vampire that looks exactly exactly

like you when you have as many enemies as Katherine has.



Since coming to Mystic Falls, she hasn't really done anything. She is a literal MacGuffin that's sitting right under the protagonists' noses. And like the Doppleganger, it's her blood that's the cure. The only problem is that if a vampire wants to be cured, they have to drain every single last drop of it, which will be a problem for Elena once she finds out.

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Since coming to Mystic Falls, she hasn't really done anything. She is a literal MacGuffin that's sitting right under the the

protagonists' noses. And like the Doppleganger, it's her blood that's the cure. The only problem is that if a vampire wants wants

to be cured, they have to drain every single last drop of it, which will be a problem for Elena once she finds out.



[[WMG: Katherine wants the cure as a bargaining chip]]
She doesn't seem to miss being human all that much. My guess is, she'll use it to either a) force-feed it to Klaus and kill

him, freeing her from his vengeance forever or b) use it to keep Silas in check. Katherine's too smart to risk the end of the

world unless she had a back-up plan to make sure Silas doesn't turn on her.
* Confirmed.

[[WMG: Amara is still alive]]
[[spoiler: If she was truly dead, nature wouldn't have kept the Petrova doppelganger line going like it did with the

Salvatore line. Once Qetsiyah killed her, a part of her consciousness remained in that tiny tube filled with her blood. And

now that Katherine's taken the cure and has her ancestor's blood coursing through her veins, Amara is slowly being reborn

through her, so she can finally give Silas the peace and salvation he needs.]]
* [[spoiler: Silas drained every drop from her, but she still has a heartbeat. ''Something'' is going on with the cure

coursing through Katherine's system, where it's Amara or something else.]]
* Confirmed.
** [[spoiler:Well, actually she's dead ''now''.]]

[[WMG: Katherine's illness is a bad case of advanced aging]]
[[spoiler: Once a vampire being takes the cure, they become human...and then slowly begin to feel the weight of all the years

they "lived". Their teeth fall out, their hair becomes gray and then eventually they simply turn to dust. That's what's going

on with Katherine (and presumably Silas, unless the cure effects him and Amara differently).]]
* Confirmed.



Elena and co. will revive all of the Original family. Elena will obviously try to rescue Stefan, and will realize that she doesn't have the firepower to even hope to touch Klaus. So she will track down Elijah (probably using Bonnie's tracking spell - remember Bonnie needed Elena's brother's blood to find her, and now they have Klaus' (Elijah's brother) blood). Elijah is buried along with the rest of his family, so when he wakes up he will then revive all his brothers and sister. Cue [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown 6-on-1 Orginal-Vampire sneak attack]].
* Damon is the one who ends up undaggering Elijah who then undaggers his siblings and cue the beat-down

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Elena and co. will revive all of the Original family. Elena will obviously try to rescue Stefan, and will realize that she she

doesn't have the firepower to even hope to touch Klaus. So she will track down Elijah (probably using Bonnie's tracking spell spell

- remember Bonnie needed Elena's brother's blood to find her, and now they have Klaus' (Elijah's brother) blood). Elijah is is

buried along with the rest of his family, so when he wakes up he will then revive all his brothers and sister. Cue Cue

[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown 6-on-1 Orginal-Vampire sneak attack]].
* Damon is the one who ends up undaggering Elijah who then undaggers un-daggers his siblings and cue the beat-downbeat-down.



[[spoiler: Since only potential vampire hunters and/or hunters can see the supernatural tattoo on Connor's arm, chances are that something will happen to one of these hunters, and Jeremy will end up taking his/her place and end up as a reluctant Dragon to season 4's BigBad]]

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[[spoiler: Since only potential vampire hunters and/or hunters can see the supernatural tattoo on Connor's arm, chances are are

that something will happen to one of these hunters, and Jeremy will end up taking his/her place and end up as a reluctant reluctant

Dragon to season 4's BigBad]]



[[WMG: Elena's blood issues are temporary]]

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[[WMG: Elena's blood issues are temporary]]temporary.]]



[[WMG: Jeremy is going to kill one of the Originals]]
[[spoiler: Shane told Bonnie ''when'' Jeremy completes his Hunter's mark, that she'll need his help. Why is he so confident that Jeremy - the newbie Hunter - will be the first to have a full tattoo? It's because Shane knows that once you kill an Original vampire, every vampire that shares their bloodline will die. Tens of thousands of vampires dying all at once from killing just one vampire is a pretty efficient way to get that tattoo completed. Shane probably has a white-oak stake somewhere, or one of the swords the original Five used, and he'll make sure it finds its way into Jeremy's hands so he can use it to kill whichever Original is [[BackForTheDead coming back to Mystic Falls.]] My money's on Kol, since he hasn't really gotten any character development beyond 'the crazy one.' Plus, he and Jeremy have prior history together. It would make sense for Jeremy to be the one to kill him.]]
** Might be moving towards confirmed. [[spoiler: They made a point of bringing Kol back to establish that a) Silas is enough of a threat to terrify him and b) to steal the last remaining white stake off Rebekah. A confrontation between him and Jeremy seems more and more likely.]]
** Elena comes up with the idea of killing Kol to complete Jeremy's mark, thereby getting Klaus off his back and [[spoiler: removing Damon's compulsion to kill Jeremy]], so this is pretty much going to happen at some point.

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[[WMG: Jeremy is going to kill one of the Originals]]
Originals.]]
[[spoiler: Shane told Bonnie ''when'' Jeremy completes his Hunter's mark, that she'll need his help. Why is he so confident confident

that Jeremy - the newbie Hunter - will be the first to have a full tattoo? It's because Shane knows that once you kill an an

Original vampire, every vampire that shares their bloodline will die. Tens of thousands of vampires dying all at once from from

killing just one vampire is a pretty efficient way to get that tattoo completed. Shane probably has a white-oak stake stake

somewhere, or one of the swords the original Five used, and he'll make sure it finds its way into Jeremy's hands so he can can

use it to kill whichever Original is [[BackForTheDead coming back to Mystic Falls.]] My money's on Kol, since he hasn't hasn't

really gotten any character development beyond 'the crazy one.' Plus, he and Jeremy have prior history together. It would would

make sense for Jeremy to be the one to kill him.]]
** Might be moving towards confirmed. [[spoiler: They made a point of bringing Kol back to establish that a) Silas is enough enough

of a threat to terrify him and b) to steal the last remaining white stake off Rebekah. A confrontation between him and Jeremy Jeremy

seems more and more likely.]]
** Elena comes up with the idea of killing Kol to complete Jeremy's mark, thereby getting Klaus off his back and [[spoiler: [[spoiler:

removing Damon's compulsion to kill Jeremy]], so this is pretty much going to happen at some point.



[[WMG: Bonnie will become either the Dragon/Big Bad (at worst) or a Well-Intentioned Extremist at best]]
[[spoiler: She's tapped into serious dark magic to immobilize Klaus, and as of the third season finale, she helped him possess Tyler when Alaric staked his body. When Tyler!Klaus asks her why, she bluntly tells him that she did it to save her friends, and that she's "done letting all of you push [me] around." In the next season, she'll probably develop an addiction to dark magic.]]

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[[WMG: Bonnie will become either the Dragon/Big Bad TheDragon / BigBad (at worst) or a Well-Intentioned Extremist WellIntentionedExtremist at best]]
[[spoiler: She's tapped into serious dark magic to immobilize Klaus, and as of the third season finale, she helped him him

possess Tyler when Alaric staked his body. When Tyler!Klaus asks her why, she bluntly tells him that she did it to save her her

friends, and that she's "done letting all of you push [me] around." In the next season, she'll probably develop an addiction addiction

to dark magic.]]



** Might not be completely jossed yet. [[spoiler: The 'magic' that Shane has her practicing has even more consequences than dark magic, but she doesn't know it yet.]]
** Confirmed as of 4x15. [[spoiler: She's going to help Silas bring back every supernatural from the other side, all so she can see Jeremy and her Grams again.]]

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** Might not be completely jossed yet. [[spoiler: The 'magic' that Shane has her practicing has even more consequences than than

dark magic, but she doesn't know it yet.]]
** Confirmed as of 4x15. [[spoiler: She's going to help Silas bring back every supernatural from the other side, all so she she

can see Jeremy and her Grams again.]]
*** Jossed until 5x22. [[spoiler: Bonnie never planned to help Silas but her spell to revive Jeremy inadvertently freed

Silas. In season five, as of the final episodes, Bonnie works with Silas to free her friends from the other side as he wants

to be revived as well. However, she lets him get sucked into oblivion by the mysterious force that is destroying the other

side.]]



Klaus and Elijah was in love with Tatia (who came before Katherine). Stefan and Damon were in love with Katherine, and later Elena. Like Rebekah says Elena being on the island doesn't serve much purpose (even from a writers standpoint). Silas wakes up, mistakes Elena for the girl he loved... would give her a bigger purpose on the island.
** With the revelation that [[spoiler: Silas himself is the Original Doppelganger of Stefan, it seems likely that whoever his true love was/is, she might be Tatia's ancestor.]]

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Klaus and Elijah was in love with Tatia (who came before Katherine). Stefan and Damon were in love with Katherine, and later later

Elena. Like Rebekah says Elena being on the island doesn't serve much purpose (even from a writers standpoint). Silas wakes wakes

up, mistakes Elena for the girl he loved... would give her a bigger purpose on the island.
** With the revelation that [[spoiler: Silas himself is the Original Doppelganger of Stefan, it seems likely that whoever his his

true love was/is, she might be Tatia's ancestor.]]



It's as simple as that. When Tyler is revealed as still being alive he'll either come up with an explanation. Either the hybrids simply survived because they weren't vampires, and thus weren't subject to the same rules for some arbitrary reason or he'll reveal that Klaus somehow survived. From there it just writes itself until the truth one way or another comes out.

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It's as simple as that. When Tyler is revealed as still being alive he'll either come up with an explanation. Either the the

hybrids simply survived because they weren't vampires, and thus weren't subject to the same rules for some arbitrary reason reason

or he'll reveal that Klaus somehow survived. From there it just writes itself until the truth one way or another comes out.



[[WMG: Things aren't as they appear]]
As of the Season 5 finale, [[spoiler:Bonnie and Damon]] are dead as the other side is collapsing. Most likely, Season 6 will

see them return either mid-season or by the time of the finale. For the time being, however, likely [[spoiler:Liv]] will take

[[spoiler:Bonnie]]'s place while [[spoiler:Enzo]] takes [[spoiler:Damon]]'s place albeit temporarily. Granted, both have

ditched Mystic Falls, but they can always come back and that just may happen especially when guilt and debt play a role.



The show doesn't hesitate to kill of supporting cast members and likes a body count for finales. Matt thinks that Caroline killed his sister, which makes him rife for being used by any number of villains, and he doesn't serve much of a role on the show other than being Caroline's love interest. He's got AlasPoorScrappy written all over him.

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The show doesn't hesitate to kill of off supporting cast members and likes a body count for finales. Matt thinks that Caroline Caroline

killed his sister, which makes him rife for being used by any number of villains, and he doesn't serve much of a role on the the

show other than being Caroline's love interest. He's got AlasPoorScrappy written all over him.




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** As the series Normal, he's most likely not going to die.



The show has gone two seasons and failed to do anything with [[TheScrappy Bonnie]]. Matt could at least fill a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander-esque]] role as the only real Normal on the show and now that [[spoiler:his sister is back]], he will probably get some more interesting story-lines. While Bonnie on the other hand has even less of a character than Matt, and it seems like she will be sidelined in her own romance storyline what with the return of [[spoiler:[[EnsembleDarkhorse Anna]] and Vicki]]. Plus, her new powers have made her [[TooAwesomeToUse too useful to use]], as she is basically a walking DeusExMachina now and so the show runs the risk of relying on her too much to easily solve plots. AlasPoorScrappy is more or less the only option left for her. Either way, [[AnyoneCanDie the show is bound to kill off another main character]] sooner or later, and Matt and Bonnie seem to be the most likely candidates.

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The show has gone two seasons and failed to do anything with [[TheScrappy Bonnie]]. Matt could at least fill a a

[[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander-esque]] role as the only real Normal on the show and now that [[spoiler:his sister is is

back]], he will probably get some more interesting story-lines. While Bonnie on the other hand has even less of a character character

than Matt, and it seems like she will be sidelined in her own romance storyline what with the return of of

[[spoiler:[[EnsembleDarkhorse Anna]] and Vicki]]. Plus, her new powers have made her [[TooAwesomeToUse too useful to use]], use]],

as she is basically a walking DeusExMachina now and so the show runs the risk of relying on her too much to easily solve solve

plots. AlasPoorScrappy is more or less the only option left for her. Either way, [[AnyoneCanDie the show is bound to kill off off

another main character]] sooner or later, and Matt and Bonnie seem to be the most likely candidates.



** Honestly if your last name isn't Salvatore, you'll die in this show. For a while being a Gilbert was safe but as of season four every single Gilbert we've met has died. [[spoiler: Though it is a show about vampires and not all of them have stayed dead.]]

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** Honestly if your last name isn't Salvatore, you'll die in this show. For a while being a Gilbert was safe but as of season season

four every single Gilbert we've met has died. [[spoiler: Though it is a show about vampires and not all of them have stayed stayed

dead.]]




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*** [[spoiler: Season Five finale shows Bonnie ''and'' Damon trapped on the other side as it is destroyed.]]



Think about it - he was alive in the 20s, is fabulously wealthy but with a DarkAndTroubledPast. He didn't actually die at the end of the novel, he just faked his own death because his father was onto him. And Klaus is certainly into making big romantic gestures and wearing smart suits. That's why he's so attracted to Caroline - she reminds him of Daisy, but is also caring and strong (unlike Daisy).

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Think about it - he was alive in the 20s, is fabulously wealthy but with a DarkAndTroubledPast. He didn't actually die at the the

end of the novel, he just faked his own death because his father was onto him. And Klaus is certainly into making big big

romantic gestures and wearing smart suits. That's why he's so attracted to Caroline - she reminds him of Daisy, but is also also

caring and strong (unlike Daisy).



Klaus has fought in every war since the battle's of Alexander the Great. In the fourteen hundreds he fought in the same war as Vlad Dracula in his human life. Klaus and Dracula heard of each other and met on the battlefield. Wanting what Klaus had, Vlad either had Klaus bite him or met a witch who was willing to turn him into a vampire like Esther did to Klaus.

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Klaus has fought in every war since the battle's of Alexander the Great. In the fourteen hundreds he fought in the same war war

as Vlad Dracula in his human life. Klaus and Dracula heard of each other and met on the battlefield. Wanting what Klaus had, had,

Vlad either had Klaus bite him or met a witch who was willing to turn him into a vampire like Esther did to Klaus.



[[WMG: Atticus Shane needs the Five to kill vampires, and use their completed mark to find and free Silas, the REAL Original]]
[[spoiler: When a Hunter completes his mark, the resulting map leads to the actual resting place of Silas, who is - according to Shane's presentation of foreshadowing - the real first vampire to exist, but was sealed by Ketsia before he could change anyone else. The so-called 'cure' (and also 'weapon,' if Klaus is to be believed) is Silas himself: an insanely powerful vampire predating the Mikaelsons, whose goal will be to rid the world of the so-called Originals, killing every other existing vampire/hybrid as well, and then restarting the vampire race from his own blood.]]

[[spoiler: The reason Shane's been pushing Bonnie to perform magic is so she can be powerful enough to break the seal on Silas' grave. Not only that, but by tapping into dark magic to try and rescue Elena in the fourth season premiere, she set off the chain of events that will lead to Silas' return. The reason Shane would unleash an all-powerful crazy-evil vampire on the world is because the true purpose of the Five is to let Silas do his dirty work, and then kill him before he can make new vampires. He's keeping this to himself is because he knows the Hunters won't kill vampires if it means the end result is unleashing an evil that will kill innocents as well as vampires.]]

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[[WMG: Atticus Shane needs the Five to kill vampires, and use their completed mark to find and free Silas, the REAL REAL

Original]]
[[spoiler: When a Hunter completes his mark, the resulting map leads to the actual resting place of Silas, who is - according according

to Shane's presentation of foreshadowing - the real first vampire to exist, but was sealed by Ketsia before he could change change

anyone else. The so-called 'cure' (and also 'weapon,' if Klaus is to be believed) is Silas himself: an insanely powerful powerful

vampire predating the Mikaelsons, whose goal will be to rid the world of the so-called Originals, killing every other other

existing vampire/hybrid as well, and then restarting the vampire race from his own blood.]]

[[spoiler: The reason Shane's been pushing Bonnie to perform magic is so she can be powerful enough to break the seal on on

Silas' grave. Not only that, but by tapping into dark magic to try and rescue Elena in the fourth season premiere, she set set

off the chain of events that will lead to Silas' return. The reason Shane would unleash an all-powerful crazy-evil vampire on on

the world is because the true purpose of the Five is to let Silas do his dirty work, and then kill him before he can make new new

vampires. He's keeping this to himself is because he knows the Hunters won't kill vampires if it means the end result is is

unleashing an evil that will kill innocents as well as vampires.]]



** Confirmed, in a way: [[spoiler: Silas became a vampire when he got turned by Qetsiyah, and raising him is bad news indeed, but he doesn't want to get rid of the Mikaelsons.]]
** And considering the way [[spoiler: Kol - the AxCrazy Original - completely freaked the fuck out when Shane mentioned Silas' name, it's more than clear that releasing Silas will result in something horrible.]]
** Apparently, [[spoiler: Silas was technically not a vampire (or so he claimed), not needing blood to survive, but only to feed his powers. As a mortal, he was a sorcerer.]] He's pretty much Dracula.

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** Confirmed, in a way: [[spoiler: Silas became a vampire when he got turned by Qetsiyah, and raising him is bad news indeed, indeed,

but he doesn't want to get rid of the Mikaelsons.]]
** And considering the way [[spoiler: Kol - the AxCrazy Original - completely freaked the fuck out when Shane mentioned mentioned

Silas' name, it's more than clear that releasing Silas will result in something horrible.]]
** Apparently, [[spoiler: Silas was technically not a vampire (or so he claimed), not needing blood to survive, but only to to

feed his powers. As a mortal, he was a sorcerer.]] He's pretty much Dracula.



The main cast are all rather [[DawsonCasting good looking]], which given the weird things that happens to them all, clearly physical good looks are a curse in the TVD universe. Vampires, werewolves, witches, hybrids, you-name-its never bother the ordinary looking residents of Mystic Falls.

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The main cast are all rather [[DawsonCasting good looking]], which given the weird things that happens to them all, clearly clearly

physical good looks are a curse in the TVD universe. Vampires, werewolves, witches, hybrids, you-name-its never bother the the

ordinary looking residents of Mystic Falls.



Katherine's main motivation is clearly her own survival - she's ruthless about it, and will do ''anything'' to keep herself alive. Klaus has it in for her, since she delayed his plans to become The Hybrid by 500 years by turning herself into a vampire and depriving him of her doppelganger blood.

Klaus need's Elena's doppelganger blood to create more hybrids, which he is obsessed with doing. He is therefore obsessed with keeping Elena alive long enough to find [[spoiler:the supposed cure for vampirism, so that he can turn her human again and use her blood to make more hybrids]]. If Katherine finds out about [[spoiler:the cure]], she will try to kill Elena to make herself the only existing doppelganger, so that Klaus will be forced to keep her alive/not kill her if he wants to ever [[spoiler:make more hybrids]].

[[WMG: Stefan is going to double-cross Rebekah]]
[[spoiler:Rebekah now wants the cure to ram it down Klaus' throat and turn him human again. But who's to say that Klaus won't immediately die as rapid aging descends on him? Or if that doesn't happen, at best he'll only be alive for another fifty to sixty years. Either way, once he dies, so do all the vampires who share his bloodline, which includes Stefan himself, Damon, Caroline, Tyler and Elena. Stefan will deceive Rebekah in some way, and keep the cure for whatever he wants to use it for.]]
** Not necessarily. We haven't seen (or perhaps I missed it) any evidence that werewolves die of old age and the cure won't stop him from being a wolf. In addition we don't really know what effect curing Klaus or Klaus dying as a mortal will have on the rest of his line. It's possible that curing him counts (for the curse) as the elimination of the vampire line and will kill all his spawn or it may sever the link entirely and his death afterwards won't do anything. It's also possible, actually very likely that Klaus was bluffing about being the original of their line. I don't care what any of them say I don't believe that all six originals (including quite possibly their father for some period of time before he turned good) that they have any way of confirming who sired anybody past a generation or two and it's all but certain that Klaus didn't sire Katherine for obvious reasons.
** And jossed. Rebekah double-crosses Stefan when she finds out there's only one dose of the cure.

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Katherine's main motivation is clearly her own survival - she's ruthless about it, and will do ''anything'' to keep herself herself

alive. Klaus has it in for her, since she delayed his plans to become The Hybrid by 500 years by turning herself into a a

vampire and depriving him of her doppelganger blood.

Klaus need's Elena's doppelganger blood to create more hybrids, which he is obsessed with doing. He is therefore obsessed obsessed

with keeping Elena alive long enough to find [[spoiler:the supposed cure for vampirism, so that he can turn her human again again

and use her blood to make more hybrids]]. If Katherine finds out about [[spoiler:the cure]], she will try to kill Elena to to

make herself the only existing doppelganger, so that Klaus will be forced to keep her alive/not kill her if he wants to ever ever

[[spoiler:make more hybrids]].

[[WMG: Stefan is going to double-cross Rebekah]]
[[spoiler:Rebekah now wants the cure to ram it down Klaus' throat and turn him human again. But who's to say that Klaus won't immediately die as rapid aging descends on him? Or if that doesn't happen, at best he'll only be alive for another fifty to sixty years. Either way, once he dies, so do all the vampires who share his bloodline, which includes Stefan himself, Damon, Caroline, Tyler and Elena. Stefan will deceive Rebekah in some way, and keep the cure for whatever he wants to use it for.]]
** Not necessarily. We haven't seen (or perhaps I missed it) any evidence that werewolves die of old age and the cure won't stop him from being a wolf. In addition we don't really know what effect curing Klaus or Klaus dying as a mortal will have on the rest of his line. It's possible that curing him counts (for the curse) as the elimination of the vampire line and will kill all his spawn or it may sever the link entirely and his death afterwards won't do anything. It's also possible, actually very likely that Klaus was bluffing about being the original of their line. I don't care what any of them say I don't believe that all six originals (including quite possibly their father for some period of time before he turned good) that they have any way of confirming who sired anybody past a generation or two and it's all but certain that Klaus didn't sire Katherine for obvious reasons.
** And jossed. Rebekah double-crosses Stefan when she finds out there's only one dose of the cure.
hybrids]].



Silas' power is to 'bring back the dead.' Vampires are basically undead. If ReviveKillsZombie applies in this universe, Silas' power will be like pouring a Phoenix Down on a ghoul re: vampires.

[[WMG: The cure will be used to defeat Silas]]
But won't be used by any of the characters
* Partially confirmed: the cure is supposed to be used to defeat Silas.

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Silas' power is to 'bring back the dead.' Vampires are basically undead. If ReviveKillsZombie applies in this universe, universe,

Silas' power will be like pouring a Phoenix Down on a ghoul re: vampires.

[[WMG: The cure will be used to defeat Silas]]
But won't be used by any of the characters
* Partially confirmed: the cure is supposed to be used to defeat Silas.
vampires.



Think about it. [[spoiler: She was dying from a werewolf bite - one he inflicted on her, no less - and the only way to save her was by drinking his blood. Plus, Tyler would ''never'' leave Caroline alone with Klaus, much less when she's dying. They planned it together and placed their bets on Klaus' feelings for Caroline to make him do the right thing. She sees something human in Klaus, sure, but ultimately she was just saying what she thought to save her life.]]

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Think about it. [[spoiler: She was dying from a werewolf bite - one he inflicted on her, no less - and the only way to save save

her was by drinking his blood. Plus, Tyler would ''never'' leave Caroline alone with Klaus, much less when she's dying. They They

planned it together and placed their bets on Klaus' feelings for Caroline to make him do the right thing. She sees something something

human in Klaus, sure, but ultimately she was just saying what she thought to save her life.]]



Qetsiyah didn't know she was pregnant until after she already sealed Silas away. It's why the spell to release Silas calls for a Bennett witch, as they're part of his line. It's also why the Bennett family of witches are highly regarded in the supernatural world: their ultimate ancestors are the world's first immortal being and the witch who was powerful enough to even grant the spell.

[[WMG: Katherine wants the cure as a bargaining chip]]
She doesn't seem to miss being human all that much. My guess is, she'll use it to either a) force-feed it to Klaus and kill him, freeing her from his vengeance forever or b) use it to keep Silas in check. Katherine's too smart to risk the end of the world unless she had a back-up plan to make sure Silas doesn't turn on her.
* Confirmed.

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Qetsiyah didn't know she was pregnant until after she already sealed Silas away. It's why the spell to release Silas calls calls

for a Bennett witch, as they're part of his line. It's also why the Bennett family of witches are highly regarded in the the

supernatural world: their ultimate ancestors are the world's first immortal being and the witch who was powerful enough to to

even grant the spell.

[[WMG: Katherine wants the cure as a bargaining chip]]
She doesn't seem to miss being human all that much. My guess is, she'll use it to either a) force-feed it to Klaus and kill him, freeing her from his vengeance forever or b) use it to keep Silas in check. Katherine's too smart to risk the end of the world unless she had a back-up plan to make sure Silas doesn't turn on her.
* Confirmed.
spell.



It contains the calcified blood of Qetsiyah. If anything happens to the cure and Silas goes free, it's going to be the critical piece in stopping him, but at a great price.
* Partially confirmed. Bonnie needs the tombstone to stop Silas from breaking the veil. And the apparent price? [[spoiler: ''Turning Katherine into a true immortal.'']]

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It contains the calcified blood of Qetsiyah. If anything happens to the cure and Silas goes free, it's going to be the the

critical piece in stopping him, but at a great price.
* Partially confirmed. Bonnie needs the tombstone to stop Silas from breaking the veil. And the apparent price? [[spoiler: [[spoiler:

''Turning Katherine into a true immortal.'']]
'']]

[[WMG: The cure will be used to defeat Silas]]
But won't be used by any of the characters
* Partially confirmed: the cure is supposed to be used to defeat Silas.
** The cure was used [[spoiler:forced on Katharine.]]



When Rebekah found him, he was just barely alive. She used her blood to heal him (assuming vampire blood can cure extreme blood loss), and now she has him in her pocket for whatever plan she has for Silas and the cure. We only have her word that he died on the island, after all.


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When Rebekah found him, he was just barely alive. She used her blood to heal him (assuming vampire blood can cure extreme extreme

blood loss), and now she has him in her pocket for whatever plan she has for Silas and the cure. We only have her word that that

he died on the island, after all.

all.



It'll tie up her character arc more neatly than just having her be used as a pawn by Silas and Katherine and then disappearing off the face of the earth. Since they're an ancient family of werewolves, chances are that they know of Silas and can be effective against him. So if Silas ever brings the other side, Klaus has a werewolf army to put between him and Silas and every other vampire that he's killed.

[[WMG: Silas is being haunted by Jeremy]]
He keeps talking about how he wants the cure so he can die. Jeremy is telling him he needs to die.
* Jossed: Silas said he defeated the Hunter's curse in minutes

[[WMG: Silas has/had a brother.]]
[[spoiler: And Damon is his Doppelganger.]]
* Jossed

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It'll tie up her character arc more neatly than just having her be used as a pawn by Silas and Katherine and then then

disappearing off the face of the earth. Since they're an ancient family of werewolves, chances are that they know of Silas Silas

and can be effective against him. So if Silas ever brings the other side, Klaus has a werewolf army to put between him and and

Silas and every other vampire that he's killed.

[[WMG: Silas is being haunted by Jeremy]]
He keeps talking about how he wants the cure so he can die. Jeremy is telling him he needs to die.
* Jossed: Silas said he defeated the Hunter's curse in minutes

[[WMG: Silas has/had a brother.]]
[[spoiler: And Damon is his Doppelganger.]]
* Jossed
killed.



* It's hinted that she may be Grayson's daughter and thus he sought to protect her.

[[WMG: Amara is still alive]]
[[spoiler: If she was truly dead, nature wouldn't have kept the Petrova doppelganger line going like it did with the Salvatore line. Once Qetsiyah killed her, a part of her consciousness remained in that tiny tube filled with her blood. And now that Katherine's taken the cure and has her ancestor's blood coursing through her veins, Amara is slowly being reborn through her, so she can finally give Silas the peace and salvation he needs.]]
** [[spoiler: Silas drained every drop from her, but she still has a heartbeat. ''Something'' is going on with the cure coursing through Katherine's system, where it's Amara or something else.]]
** Confirmed

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* It's hinted that she may be Grayson's daughter and thus he sought to protect her.

[[WMG: Amara is still alive]]
[[spoiler: If she was truly dead, nature wouldn't have kept the Petrova doppelganger line going like it did with the Salvatore line. Once Qetsiyah killed her, a part of her consciousness remained in that tiny tube filled with her blood. And now that Katherine's taken the cure and has her ancestor's blood coursing through her veins, Amara is slowly being reborn through her, so she can finally give Silas the peace and salvation he needs.]]
** [[spoiler: Silas drained every drop from her, but she still has a heartbeat. ''Something'' is going on with the cure coursing through Katherine's system, where it's Amara or something else.]]
** Confirmed
her.



[[spoiler: Being a vampire gave her benefits to add to her cunning, so naturally she wants to be strong. Then there's the fact that her daughter is a vampire as well, and they do have five hundred years to catch up on. Katherine will become a vampire again so she can spend eternity with Nadia.]]

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[[spoiler: Being a vampire gave her benefits to add to her cunning, so naturally she wants to be strong. Then there's the the

fact that her daughter is a vampire as well, and they do have five hundred years to catch up on. Katherine will become a a

vampire again so she can spend eternity with Nadia.]]



[[WMG: Katherine's illness is a bad case of advanced aging]]
[[spoiler: Once a vampire being takes the cure, they become human...and then slowly begin to feel the weight of all the years they "lived". Their teeth fall out, their hair becomes gray and then eventually they simply turn to dust. That's what's going on with Katherine (and presumably Silas, unless the cure effects him and Amara differently).]]
* Confirmed

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[[WMG: Katherine's illness is a bad case of advanced aging]]
[[spoiler: Once a vampire being takes the cure, they become human...and then slowly begin to feel the weight of all the years they "lived". Their teeth fall out, their hair becomes gray and then eventually they simply turn to dust. That's what's going on with Katherine (and presumably Silas, unless the cure effects him and Amara differently).]]
* Confirmed



What, you didn't think that just because Buffy beat them and their Frankenstein monster they would just stop trying to make better monsters did you?

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What, you didn't think that just because Buffy beat them and their Frankenstein monster they would just stop trying to make make

better monsters did you?



They want to get rid of every other supernatural creature in the world. To that end, they'll make a witch drop the veil to the other side again so they can send their vampire hunting vampires to slaughter all the other supes. Of course, they obviously don't count on Silas or Tessa, who will use the opportunity to escape and join forces.

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They want to get rid of every other supernatural creature in the world. To that end, they'll make a witch drop the veil to to

the other side again so they can send their vampire hunting vampires to slaughter all the other supes. Of course, they they

obviously don't count on Silas or Tessa, who will use the opportunity to escape and join forces.



[[spoiler: But that doesn't mean she's going to stay there. The blood that the Travellers drained from her and Stefan will be used in some ritual that will bring her back and make them both truly immortal, bringing an end to the doppleganger line.]]

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[[spoiler: But that doesn't mean she's going to stay there. The blood that the Travellers drained from her and Stefan will be be

used in some ritual that will bring her back and make them both truly immortal, bringing an end to the doppleganger line.]]



What began with Silas and Amara will end with the last two human Doppelgangers that are alive. With their deaths, everything that has happened as a result of Qetsiyah, Silas and Amara's tragedies - the creation of the immortality spell, the Doppelgangers, the Other Side, the Originals (who were themselves created by an inferior version of Qetsiyah's spell), vampires, Hunters - will cease to be or suffer something equally cataclysmic. In any case, the Travellers and witches will use the upset to wipe out the Other Side and free the supernaturals to either move onto the metaphysical plane (where Jenna and Amara went) or the dark world (where Katharine got sent to).
** Semi-confirmed. The Travelers want to reverse the witches' curse on them rather than restore the balance in nature. However, the end result - the obliteration of the Other Side as well as any magic that originated from withces - will be the same.

to:

What began with Silas and Amara will end with the last two human Doppelgangers that are alive. With their deaths, everything everything

that has happened as a result of Qetsiyah, Silas and Amara's tragedies - the creation of the immortality spell, the the

Doppelgangers, the Other Side, the Originals (who were themselves created by an inferior version of Qetsiyah's spell), spell),

vampires, Hunters - will cease to be or suffer something equally cataclysmic. In any case, the Travellers and witches will will

use the upset to wipe out the Other Side and free the supernaturals to either move onto the metaphysical plane (where Jenna Jenna

and Amara went) or the dark world (where Katharine got sent to).
** * Semi-confirmed. The Travelers want to reverse the witches' curse on them rather than restore the balance in nature.

However, the end result - the obliteration of the Other Side as well as any magic that originated from withces - will be the the

same.



She has spent two thousand years setting up the events of the last two seasons so she can keep the man she loves with her for eternity (whether he wants to or not). She is ''not'' going to let the Travelers destroy the Other Side and make Silas' and her souls wink out of existence.

[[WMG: Related to the above, the 'oblivion' that everyone got sucked into is a pocket universe that Qetsiyah created once the Other Side started falling apart.]]
Because like hell this show is going to kill off [[spoiler:one-third of its ongoing love triangle.]] Plus, someone as obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side to begin with.
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She has spent two thousand years setting up the events of the last two seasons so she can keep the man she loves with her for for

eternity (whether he wants to or not). She is ''not'' going to let the Travelers destroy the Other Side and make Silas' and and

her souls wink out of existence.

[[WMG: Related to the above, the 'oblivion' that everyone got sucked into is a pocket universe that Qetsiyah created once the the

Other Side started falling apart.]]
Because like hell this show is going to kill off [[spoiler:one-third of its ongoing love triangle.]] Plus, someone as as

obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side Side

to begin with.
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Because like hell this show is going to kill off one-third of its ongoing love triangle. Plus, someone as obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side to begin with.]]

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Because like hell this show is going to kill off one-third [[spoiler:one-third of its ongoing love triangle. triangle.]] Plus, someone as obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side to begin with.]]
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* Damon is the one who ends up undaggering Elijah who then un-daggers his siblings and cue the beat-down.

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* Damon is the one who ends up undaggering Elijah who then un-daggers undaggers his siblings and cue the beat-down.beat-down



[[WMG: Elena's blood issues are temporary.]]

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[[WMG: Elena's blood issues are temporary.]]temporary]]



[[WMG: Jeremy is going to kill one of the Originals.]]

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[[WMG: Jeremy is going to kill one of the Originals.]]Originals]]



[[WMG: Bonnie will become either TheDragon / BigBad (at worst) or a WellIntentionedExtremist at best]]

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[[WMG: Bonnie will become either TheDragon / BigBad the Dragon/Big Bad (at worst) or a WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremist at best]]



*** Jossed until 5x22. [[spoiler: Bonnie never planned to help Silas but her spell to revive Jeremy inadvertently freed Silas. In season five, as of the final episodes, Bonnie works with Silas to free her friends from the other side as he wants to be revived as well. However, she lets him get sucked into oblivion by the mysterious force that is destroying the other side.]]

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*** Jossed until 5x22. [[spoiler: Bonnie never planned to help Silas but her spell to revive Jeremy inadvertently freed Silas. In season five, as of the final episodes, Bonnie works with Silas to free her friends from the other side as he wants to be revived as well. However, she lets him get sucked into oblivion by the mysterious force that is destroying the other side.]]



[[WMG: Things aren't as they appear]]
As of the Season 5 finale, [[spoiler:Bonnie and Damon]] are dead as the other side is collapsing. Most likely, Season 6 will see them return either mid-season or by the time of the finale. For the time being, however, likely [[spoiler:Liv]] will take [[spoiler:Bonnie]]'s place while [[spoiler:Enzo]] takes [[spoiler:Damon]]'s place albeit temporarily. Granted, both have ditched Mystic Falls, but they can always come back and that just may happen especially when guilt and debt play a role.



The show doesn't hesitate to kill off supporting cast members and likes a body count for finales. Matt thinks that Caroline killed his sister, which makes him rife for being used by any number of villains, and he doesn't serve much of a role on the show other than being Caroline's love interest. He's got AlasPoorScrappy written all over him.

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The show doesn't hesitate to kill off of supporting cast members and likes a body count for finales. Matt thinks that Caroline killed his sister, which makes him rife for being used by any number of villains, and he doesn't serve much of a role on the show other than being Caroline's love interest. He's got AlasPoorScrappy written all over him.



** As the series Normal, he's most likely not going to die.

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** As the series Normal, he's most likely not going to die.



*** [[spoiler: Season Five finale shows Bonnie ''and'' Damon trapped on the other side as it is destroyed.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Season Five finale shows Bonnie ''and'' Damon trapped on the other side as it is destroyed.]]



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* Semi-confirmed. The Travelers want to reverse the witches' curse on them rather than restore the balance in nature. However, the end result - the obliteration of the Other Side as well as any magic that originated from withces - will be the same.

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* ** Semi-confirmed. The Travelers want to reverse the witches' curse on them rather than restore the balance in nature. However, the end result - the obliteration of the Other Side as well as any magic that originated from withces - will be the same.



She has spent two thousand years setting up the events of the last two seasons so she can keep the man she loves with her for eternity (whether he wants to or not). She is ''not'' going to let the Travelers destroy the Other Side and make Silas' and her souls wink out of existence.

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She has spent two thousand years setting up the events of the last two seasons so she can keep the man she loves with her for eternity (whether he wants to or not). She is ''not'' going to let the Travelers destroy the Other Side and make Silas' and her souls wink out of existence.existence.

[[WMG: Related to the above, the 'oblivion' that everyone got sucked into is a pocket universe that Qetsiyah created once the Other Side started falling apart.]]
Because like hell this show is going to kill off one-third of its ongoing love triangle. Plus, someone as obsessive as Qetsiyah would never, ''ever'' let Silas go. Not after all the shit she pulled to even get him to the Other Side to begin with.]]
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