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[[WMG: Andy left Tommy's family a fair chunk of Norton's money before leaving the States.]]
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[[WMG: ''The Shawshank Redemption'' shares the same universe as others.]]
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*** Tommy didn't suddenly remember the real killer, he knew all along. But {{it seemed trivial}} until he learned Andy's story. Helping him get his GED was merely the catalyst that got Tommy curious enough to ask. You can make an argument for either interpretation depending on how you spin the facts. But from a Doylist perspective, it doesn't makes sense for Tommy to be lying.
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** It's only after Andy helps Tommy gets his GED that Tommy "remembers" the "real killer." Seems like a thank you gift.
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* Andy flat out says this in the film.
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** Also helped launder money, among other related crimes, even if it was under duress.
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[[WMG: Andy became a criminal.]]
Sure he was an innocent man before he came to Shawshank but his time spend corrupted him to the point that he became as crooked as the rest of the cons. That's the real tragedy behind his whole arc. Once an upstanding man now a corrupt criminal on the run from the law. Make more sense than anything else above.
* This is legally confirmed. He did escape the prison, which is a felony.
[[WMG: Andy fought inUsefulNotes/WorldWarII]]UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.]]
Sure he was an innocent man before he came to Shawshank but his time spend corrupted him to the point that he became as crooked as the rest of the cons. That's the real tragedy behind his whole arc. Once an upstanding man now a corrupt criminal on the run from the law. Make more sense than anything else above.
* This is legally confirmed. He did escape the prison, which is a felony.
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* This is legally confirmed. He did escape the prison, which is a felony.
[[WMG: In addition to being charged with Tommy's murder, Hadley was also charged for Fat Ass's death]]
Sure he was an innocent man before he came to Shawshank but his time spend corrupted him to the point that he became as crooked as the rest of the cons. That's the real tragedy behind his whole arc. Once an upstanding man now a corrupt criminal on the run from the law. Make more sense than anything else above.
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[[WMG: Hadley fought in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII]]
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It was all circumstantial evidence at best, and Johnny would ''never'' of allowed his client on the stand.
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[[WMG: Andy really did contemplate killing his wife.....but he ultimately changed his mind.]]
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Sure he was an innocent man before he came to Shawshank but his time spend corrupted him to the point that he became as crooked as the rest of the cons. Thats That's the real tragedy behind his whole arc. Once an upstanding man now a corrupt criminal on the run from the law. Make more sense than anything else aboveabove.
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* This is legally confirmed. He did escape the prison, which is a felony.
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Hadley's arrest would also result in him being fired and losing his badge, meaning any guards who witnessed him beat the guy to death on Andy's first night at Shawshank would no longer have a reason to keep silent. There was no reason for Hadley to bash Fat Ass's head in, and that would be considered murder of some sort.
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[[WMG: Andy became a criminal]]
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Sure he was an innocent man before he came to Shawshank but his time spend corrupted him to the point that he became as crooked as the rest of the cons. Thats the real tragedy behind his whole arc. Once an upstanding man now a corrupt criminal on the run from the law. Make more sense than anything else above
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** This is actually (partially) canon in the novella. In the book Andy has a friend on the outside that helps him set up his alias and when Red remarks that he "must have been a pretty close friend" to do something so illegal for him, Andy replies that they were in the war together in occupied France and Germany.
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[[WMG: Andy fought in WW2]]
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Andy really hang himself that night in his cell. Red couldn't accept it and deluded himself into believing that Andy had escaped, hence the many loose ends like Andy using the Randall Stevens alias after breaking out and why was Andy so upset when Warden Norton decided not to investigate Thomas' claim despite having a escape tunnel built all along (something that would get him in deep trouble if it was discovered -- breaking out of jail is illegal, even if you were innocent of the charges that put you in there). Neither the warden nor the head guard were arrested, but Red did get the conditional. He hang himself on the same beam Brooks used, and met Andy in the afterlife.
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Andy really hang hanged himself that night in his cell. Red couldn't accept it and deluded himself into believing that Andy had escaped, hence the many loose ends like Andy using the Randall Stevens alias after breaking out and why was Andy so upset when Warden Norton decided not to investigate Thomas' claim despite having a escape tunnel built all along (something that would get him in deep trouble if it was discovered -- breaking out of jail is illegal, even if you were innocent of the charges that put you in there). Neither the warden nor the head guard were arrested, but Red did get the conditional. He hang himself on the same beam Brooks used, and met Andy in the afterlife.
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[[WMG: Andy really did kill his wife, and Tommy really was making the whole thing up.]]
Andy was much too drunk the night he followed his wife and her lover to their rendezvous point, and the booze, coupled with his own guilt, blacked out the murder in his mind, to the point where he truly believes himself to be innocent. Tommy really did make up the story of the "real killer" and told the warden he would "tell the truth" on the stand, under the belief that helping to get Andy out of prison would win him points with the guys inside. Considering how important Andy was to the warden's money laundering, the warden didn't want to take any chances, and had Tommy shot.
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It was all circumstantial evidence at best, and Johnny would ''never'' of allowed his client on the stand.
Andy was much too drunk the night he followed his wife and her lover to their rendezvous point, and the booze, coupled with his own guilt, blacked out the murder in his mind, to the point where he truly believes himself to be innocent. Tommy really did make up the story of the "real killer" and told the warden he would "tell the truth" on the stand, under the belief that helping to get Andy out of prison would win him points with the guys inside. Considering how important Andy was to the warden's money laundering, the warden didn't want to take any chances, and had Tommy shot.
[[WMG: Andy would of never went to jail if Johnnie Cochran was his lawyer.]]
It was all circumstantial evidence at best, and Johnny would ''never'' of allowed his client on the stand.
