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[[WMG: Scar's backstory will be explored.]]
For example, where his scar came from and the origin of his relationship with the hyenas will be explained, most likely drawing inspiration from the [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/A_Tale_of_Two_Brothers "A Tale Of Two Brothers" story]].
[[WMG: Ideas and characters removed from the original film will be reinserted here.]]
Several items seen in the original film's [[Trivia/TheLionKing Trivia page]] will be included, such as Nala's brother Mheetu and some of the [[CutSong CutSongs]] as well.
[[WMG: Creator/JonFavreau will enlist some of his usual collaborators to work on the film.]]
For example, John Debney will likely do the music, while incorporating Hans Zimmer's themes from the original. Some of Favreau's actors and friends may also show up. For example:
* Either Creator/SamRockwell or Creator/RobertDowneyJr will play Timon.
* Creator/IdrisElba ''(Film/TheJungleBook2016)'' will play Rafiki or Mufasa.
** Jossed at least with Mufasa, as Creator/JamesEarlJones will reprise the role.
* Neel Sethi ''(Mowgli from Favreau's Jungle Book film)'' will play Simba as a cub.
* Creator/ScarlettJohansson and Creator/LupitaNyongo may play characters as well.
[[WMG: Despite including songs, the film will not be a musical.]]
Much like Favreau's previous [[Film/TheJungleBook2016 Disney work]].
** The song most likely to be dropped from the film is "I Just Can't Wait To Be King" since Favreau seems intent on keeping the trend of his remakes being DarkerAndEdgier, and it clashes too much with his potential vision. It seems to be the most forgotten song of the film as well, in comparison to the big three ("Circle of Life", "Hakuna Matata", "Can You Feel the Love Tonight") and "Be Prepared" (widely considered the [[SignatureSong signature]] VillainSong of Disney).
** Alternatively, songs from the musical/Rhythm of the Pride Lands could be incorporated. "He Lives In You" could be adapted, and be presented in a "[[Disney/{{Moana}} I Know The Way]]" sequence akin to [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0f/9c/00/0f9c00923b2c1253f0f0ee3d9325e7a6.jpg this]] popular piece of fan art (also reminiscent of ''Disney/BrotherBear''.
[[WMG: It will be DarkerAndEdgier than the original.]]
With an increased amount of deaths and [[AdaptationAngstUpgrade increased angst]] for several characters.
[[WMG: Fitting to the above WMG, the effects of Scar's rule will also be further detailed.]]
For example, his killing of other cubs and his [[NoYay attraction to Nala]]. Attempted coups and rebellions against him may also be shown. The gradual decay of the Pride Lands will also be shown, though we won't see it in all its horrific glory until the end when Simba returns and sees it for himself as in the original film.
[[WMG: Scenes from Film/TheLionKingOneAndAHalf will also be incorporated into the film.]]
E.g. Simba's nightmares and scenes showing Timon and Pumbaa's backstories.
[[WMG: Zira will appear early to avoid RememberTheNewGuy]].
Zira will appear in the film in a case of AdaptationalEarlyAppearance so that she doesn't appear out of nowhere in a sequel. She will flee Pride Rock at the end of the film in a SequelHook, after taking part in the battle and fighting Simba's allies. Potentially her children could appear. The film could portray Zira as CoDragons with Shenzi, with Zira helping engineer Mufasa's death by say, leading the lionesses to hunt far away from the gorge so that they will be too late to help if they are somehow alerted to what's going on. Zira could also get a singing part in "Be Prepared", either singing along to existing lyrics or having a verse to herself.
** And as another wild guess, she will be played by Renee Elise Goldsbury and her part in "Be Prepared" is a furious, epic rap like "[[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Satisfied]]".
[[WMG: Returning voice actors (besides the already confirmed James Earl Jones)]]
Creator/KharyPayton could reprise his role as Rafiki from ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'', while the ever-popular Creator/JeremyIrons could reprise his role as Scar.
[[WMG: Timon and Pumbaa will be presented as a gay couple]]
Following on from their HoYay in the original film, their actors believing them to be a gay couple, and [=LeFou=] in the ''[[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 Beauty and the Beast]]'' remake, Timon and Pumbaa will be an outright gay couple. However, like [=LeFou=], it will not bear much impact on the plot, and not much if anything will be said about it, but there's no question about what we're seeing either.
[[WMG: Rafiki will be played by a woman like in the Broadway musical]]
Just to give the film another important female character, much like the original reason for Rafiki's GenderFlip in the musical.
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For example, his killing of other cubs and his [[NoYay attraction to Nala]]. Attempted coups and rebellions against him may also be shown.

Kopa was sent back in time but raised and adopted by a pride which he left when he was of mature age. He decided to return to his 'home' but upon saving Nala who he immediately realised was his mother as a cub, complications arose. Being GenreSavvy about time travel and remembering his mother's story he quickly fabricated some lies about his name and past, per accordingly, and stole the quick chance to return to his home.

He is in ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}}]], actually that was an InJoke, because the same animator who drew Scar also drew Hercules.

* Disney then realized how incredibly difficult it would be to get the rights to the anime - it had been in the hands of various animation studios in japan, numerous dubbers, and everything - but it was too far along in pre-production to change most of the story, so they [[SerialNumbersFiledOff changed]] Kimba to Simba, Claw to Scar, and added elements of ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}''. Unfortunately, this still wasn't enough to keep FanDumb from attacking it as a rip-off when it's more like how ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven'' was a re-telling of ''Film/SevenSamurai'', only this time, instead of it being the Seven Samurai [[RecycledInSpace replaced by cowboys]], it was Kimba's characters with the plot of Hamlet, making it a very strange - and ultimately, very [[SoCoolItsAwesome great]] - variation of RecycledInSpace.

Several items seen in the original film's [[Trivia/TheLionKing Trivia page]] will be included, such as Nala's brother Mheetu and some of the CutSongs as well.

* Creator/Scarlett Johansson and Creator/LupitaNyongo may play characters as well.

[[WMG: Scenes from Film/LionKingOneAndAHalf will also be incorporated into the film.]]

[[WMG: Scar was [[EvilEunuch sterile.]] ]]

The story was, in fact, commissioned by Simba's granddaughter in order to justify Simba's seizure of power and unfairly portray Scar as a monster.

[[WMG: The Lion King '''was''' originally going to be a straight-up {{Remake}} of ''[[KimbaTheWhiteLion Kimba]]'', but...]]
* Disney then realized how incredibly difficult it would be to get the rights to the anime - it had been in the hands of various animation studios in japan, numerous dubbers, and everything - but it was too far along in pre-production to change most of the story, so they [[SerialNumbersFiledOff changed]] Kimba to Simba, Claw to Scar, and added elements of ''{{Hamlet}}''. Unfortunately, this still wasn't enough to keep FanDumb from attacking it as a rip-off when it's more like how ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven'' was a re-telling of ''Film/SevenSamurai'', only this time, instead of it being the Seven Samurai [[RecycledInSpace replaced by cowboys]], it was Kimba's characters with the plot of Hamlet, making it a very strange - and ultimately, very [[SoCoolItsAwesome great]] - variation of RecycledInSpace.

[[WMG: The hyena attack on the meerkat colony in ''The Lion King 1 1/2'' was not actually serious.]]
Look at that scene again. The hyenas aren't even ''trying'' to eat the meerkats. They just bat them around for a bit and ''talk'' about eating them, but even when they have the perfect opportunity to kill one, they don't -- they get the drop on Timon, and just bat him over towards the other meerkats so that there'll be a panic -- and then when he stops and cowers they run right past him to chase the rest of the meerkats. When they've got Uncle Max, they do no worse to him than eat the fur off his tail and then apparently let him escape, while they walk away and laugh about the entire thing. Because their goal here wasn't to eat, it was just to scare the meerkats and get in a few good puns while they were at it. Lucky for Uncle Max that the hyenas weren't hungry that day!

[[WMG: The Lion King and Disney/Tarzan take place in the same universe.]]

Hyena's and lions are competing predators in real-life. Hyena's are achually more likley to succesfully kill prey more often in real life than lions. The lion's used their brute strength to drive the hyena's to the elephant graveyards were there was so little to eat the lions hoped the hyena's would soon all die of starvation and not eat everything in the pridelands.

[[WMG:''Lion King 1 1/2'' is Timon and Pumbaa embellishing their story.]]
Really, it's the only way half of the movie could make sense. The other half just being RuleOfFunny. Obviously Timon is pulling stuff out of his hind end, and Pumbaa is either playing along, or [[TheDitz just not in one of his more lucid moments]].

For example, Timon and Pumbaa ''could have'' been present at Simba's presentation, but it's highly doubtful that even one of [[{{Gasshole}} Pumbaa's legendary farts]] could start off that kind of chain reaction. And Timon and Pumbaa could've spent the night at the watering hole and left the next day due to the crowds, but there's no way Simba could've grown into a juvenile cub overnight. And being present at the Graveyard, during [[VillainSong Be Prepared]] and the Stampede? Typical Timon making up BS.
* What if they stayed there for Simba's whole early childhood?
* DUH!!!!! This isn't WildMassGuessing. This is stating fact!

So, Rafiki, the jolly and wise babboon/mandrill shaman, took hold of the throne as Simba's head advisor. Finally, he could manipulate events and make decisions through the king just as he always did. He had to share that privilege alongside [[ThoseTwoGuys Timon and Pumbaa]], but they didn't use their power at all, and they could be easily controlled.

[[WMG: Scar choosing Kovu as heir was all in Zira's head]]
Ok, we know for a fact Zira was completely insane. So it's not much of a stretch to assume this insanity might have caused her to believe Scar told her Kovu was his heir, when Scar died before it ever happened. In fact, while Nuka may have been Scar's child, possibly Vitani too, as with real lions in real life, Scar may have mated with several lionesses but Zira only believed she was his prefered mate and queen, because she truely loved him and may have been the only one to actually sire cubs. Knowing Scar, he might have even cultivated such an idea because she clearly had a large sway with the lionesses and they'd obey her. Thus most of Zira's 'motive' was the result of her rampent insanity.
* Besides, Scar doesn't seem to have had the foresight to actually pick an heir. He must have been banking on being king forever.

[[WMG: The Lion King 1 1/2 is partly true, and partly made up and exaggerated by Timon and Pumba(but mostly Timon)]]
Timon and Pumba's childhoods, and the fact that many of the homes they tried to move into were places Simba had been were true, but they weren't always in the same place at the same time. The whole thing with the hyenas and meerkats at the end was also made up to make Timon and Pumba seem more heroic.

[[WMG: Humans do exist, but...]]

Years ago, human scientists found out that the animals around an insignificant mountain were sentient. How they found out? They saw that a baboon was somehow holding a baby cub on the mountain, showing him off
to a horde of herbivores that were calmly standing under the mountain's ledge. They decided to do an experiment - how that civilization would work out if there were no obstacles. Basically, all of the humans were forced out of the area, and only scientists were left, watching the lions and herbivores do their daily things through their digital cameras.

[[WMG: Wildebeests weren't unwilling murderers, but, in fact, they allied with Scar all along]]

Somebody on the Headscratchers page asked why a horde of wildebeests ran off a cliff from three hyenas and [[FridgeLogic didn't even stop]] at a full grown lion, which resulted in Mufasa's death. ''Now you know why...''

* If Africa is the wrong location for mammoths and mastadons, we can say that humans dragged the bones down there for cultural reasons, and then wound up abandoning them.

[[WMG: Kiara is the cub at the end of the first film]]
[[spoiler:After Scar was killed and the Pridelands were restored to their original state]] not all of the animals came back, so Simba held two ceramonies for the same cub: The one at the end of the first film and the one at the begining of the second film, which was held after most of the animals had returned. Also, notice how the ceramony at the end of the first film seems smaller than the one in the begining of the first film.

[[WMG: Zira killed Kopa and was banished for it]]
Had to be put here, seeing its one of the most wide spread Lion King fanon guesses in existence. Pretty much, Zira murdered Kopa to avenge Scar and Simba banished her out of pity for the children (he would've killed Zira, but he didn't want to orphan her children).

[[WMG: Simba's Firstborn Died]]
[[FridgeHorror This actually makes a lot of sense]], if you consider that in the [[FanonDiscontinuity second movie you all seem to insist exists]], Simba is a very overprotective father of his young daughter. This troper has always been of the firm opinion that the cub at the end of the [[FanonDiscontinuity only]] movie was male, since it would really complete the "Circle of Life" theme that started at the beginning with Mufasa's son being born. However, there must have been a tragic accident, during which this firstborn was brutally killed. This makes the actions of Simba in the [[RunningGag imaginary]] second movie make more sense, especially if you think about why the banished lions were banished, perhaps they were somehow responsible for the death of Simba's son, which would explain why he is so reluctant to forgive them.

[[WMG: Kopa and Kiara are twins]]
Kiara either hadn't been born at the end of the first movie or was hidden; the version from the sequel is a retcon or what they told Kiara. Kopa died as a very young cub, possibly due to Zira.

[[WMG:Kovu just shares Scar's coloring: not related]]
Not just Word of God, either. Scar's pelt could be recessive to Mufasa's dominant golden, or they could both be equally likely, and the lack of other Scar-pelted lions in the pride is because of Scar's lack-of-Kingship means he doesn't get to spread his genes.
* Somewhat amusingly, Scar and Kovu's fur color would be considered a sign of being very healthy. Ironically this is also explainable in-universe. Scar gets plenty of food and does nothing strenuous (other than put up with the hyenas). Kovu is supposed to be capable of killing Simba when he grows up so Zira is going to try to make sure he is as healthy as can be. Its not like she has any more reasonable candidates to choose from for potential king.

[[WMG:Zira wasn't mad that Kovu killed Nuka as much as she was mad that he did so with everyone watching.]]
If she was bringing him up to be like Scar, he did a very good job of "taking care" of Nuka and she should have rewarded him.

[[WMG: Zira and her followers were out hunting during the final battle in the 1st film]]
I can't believe no one has thought of this - they weren't at Pride Rock because they were out hunting. Unlike Sarabi and the others, they had not given up hope, and wished to please Scar by actually finding something to eat. Too bad Scar was dead when they came back (unsuccessful)

[[WMG:Zira is insane, and the Outlanders only follow her out of fear.]]
...Okay, so not really "''wild''" mass guessing, but still counts. It would certainly explain the mass [[HeelFaceTurn Heel Face Turn]] after Kiara's [[PowerOfLove little]] [[PowerOfFriendship speech]], they felt that her deciding to off her only daughter was the last straw.

[[WMG:Zira was the only Scar loyalist among the adult lionesses.]]
Most of the lionesses disliked Scar at best. Zira, Scar's mate, was his only non-hyena supporter. After Nala left to get help, Scar decided to get an heir to solidify his reign in case she returned with a few males in tow (or, you know, Simba). Even though Kovu wasn't Scar's son (that was a random wandering male), he was the youngest, which would give Scar the best chance of molding him in his image.

Kovu was born only a few days before Simba returned. Zira didn't take part in the battle because she was still recovering from birth. Simba, a fairly merciful guy, chose to exile her instead of killing her, along with Nuka, Vitani and the infant Kovu. He continued this policy with other lions who disobeyed his rule, perhaps not realizing he was providing Zira with a steady stream of potential recruits. Most of the Outlanders were probably exiled for trying to eat Pumbaa.

[[WMG:Zira blames others for everything because she was exiled for something she didn't do.]]
Scar's death drove her mad already, but she originally laid blame on the Hyenas who really killed him, then someone else framed her for something she didn't do (being Scar's mate clearly makes her easy to blame) and got her banished by Simba. Thus she snapped and blamed Simba for Scar's death, her banishment, and everything else wrong in her life. By the time Nuka died, she was no longer capable of accepting any blame for anything and imdiately shifted the blame from herself to Kovu.

[[WMG:Zira is just a fangirl.]]
We never hear about the Outsiders or see Scar with anyone other than hyenas in the first film because they were not established yet. Zira was a member of the pride who simply became dissatisfied with Simba's leadership and became so nostalgic for the time before that she went crazy convinced herself that her cubs were Scar's and she had been his mate.

[[WMG:Nuka's death pushed Zira completely over the edge.]]
Zira occasionally showed compassion to her children (at least Kovu and Vitani) before hand but after Nuka's death, she banishes Kovu and threatens to kill Vitani. Rather than showing she was a monster from the start, this shows a change in character. Her original evil actions resulted from Scar's death driving her insane, but Nuka's death finished the job and drove the last ounce of compassion and sanity from her mind. In other words, the death of her first born son (at least I'm pretty sure he is) drove shattered what was left of her mind.

[[WMG:Nuka was the only cub Zira had with Scar.]]
Nuka is the oldest, and if this was the case, it'd definantly make sense why he thinks he should be King instead of Kovu. Vitani may or may not be Scar's, but she's a female and thus not in line for an heir. Zira treated Nuka poorly because 1) Scar rejected him as successor, and 2) he reminded her of Scar and her grief over Scar's death made her dispise him for reminding her of Scar.
* Nuka's manginess could be directly related to Scar's comment that he's "on the shallow end of the gene pool".
* Except Nuka made it clear Scar is not his father. He calls him by name rather than "Father." And when listing his "qualifications" to be the next king, he simply says that he's the oldest, strongest and smartest, and deserves a chance to lead. If he were Scar's son he would immediately point this out, whine about it more often, and resent Kovu far more than he does. Perhaps he would even actively lure Kovu into danger in an attempt to get rid of him.
** This evidence is not conclusive to Nuka not being Scar's son; "actually Scar's son" might have been so obvious that he didn't mention it, and was listing his qualifications aside from that, or it had already been dismissed, and so he was focusing on the other reasons he should lead. And it's not uncommon to call one's parent by their first name, and according to ''Six New Adventures'', Scar is an adopted name. Nuka doesn't even seem to ''like'' Scar, and is presumably usually talking to people who aren't Scar's children, so he just refers to him by name. He whines and resents Kovu plenty as it is.
** Wasn't one of his complaints about Kovu that he was considered Scar's heir even though he (Kovu) ''wasn't'' Scar's son? I thought that was more than enough proof that Nuka had to be Scar's actual offspring, otherwise he wouldn't bring it up because it would have been a reason for him not to be king, other than not being chosen by Scar.

[[WMG:''Lion King 2'' is a [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zutarian]] movie.]]
Think about it. The girl's name is Kiara, which sounds like Katara. She has an older brother, though he is absent from the film for whatever reason, is a princess (If Hakoda is the chief of the Southern Water Tribe, that makes Sokka and Katara the Crown Prince and Princess, yes?), and is anything but docile and girly. She is also brave, friendly, and just a little bit naive. Though as far as death goes, however, it would appear that her brother toke the bullet foe their mother, as where Kopa (Sokka's counterpart) is no where to be seen, but Nala, their mother, is fine.

Now, the boy. [[InsaneTrollLogic Seriously, take the 'V' from Kovu and replace it with a 'Z', then switch the syllables.]] What name do you get? Also, he has only one parent, though in this case it's the mother, who is cruel and abusive to him and his siblings. He is expected to follow in someone's footsteps and become ruler of a new dark kingdom. They were both raised to be evil, but both have good and gentle hearts that lead them to the right path. Most obvious, however, they are both banished princes with scars over their eyes. Scars, by the way, that were maliciously afflicted by their said only parents for doing essentially nothing wrong.

By the way, Vitani is really no angel, but she is the first one to make the switch and it is suspected that she is not truly evil. Cut to Azula, who is mentally sick and one of the more sympathetic villains out there. It can be safely assumed that neither of these girls were bad from the start and both had the same potential as their brothers to be good, but their parents conditioned and brainwashed sadistic and evil tendencies into them. Also, Vitani, at least as a cub, speaks in the same creepy tone as Azula and both showed sadistic tendencies from early ages.

As well as their respective homes. Kiara lives in benevolent kingdom of which she is an important figure. Kovu hails as the heir of an 'evil' kingdom, though he is banished from it. Also, mostly from the first movie, it seems to rain quite a bit in the Pridelands, and the Outlands seem to be in a never-ending drought, despite how they boarder right on one another.
* First, it's not true. Second, ''Simba's Pride'' was long before ''ATLA''. Third, Kovu's name is pudhing it. Forth, spelling.
** [[AWizardDidIt A]] [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lord]] [[AWizardDidIt Did It]].
** Or better yet, [[PortmanteauCoupleName Zutara]] is inspired by this film: Ha!

[[WMG: Zira and the Outlanders were banished for hoarding more than loyalty to Scar.]]
If they were loyal enough to Scar for Simba to banish him, they sure as hell didn't show up to save Scar's butt in any sense during the final battle. The kingdom probably went through a rough stretch between the two movies as it attempted to rebuild from Scar's rule, and it's not far-fetched to imagine that food was scarce for a while. If there was a segment of the population hoarding food for themselves, it would have made sense to banish them because they were straining the kingdom's already scarce resources.

[[WMG: Zira and the Outlanders were a scouting team Scar sent forth for an expedition. Simba beat them to Pride Rock and they were stuck.]]
Yes, Scar was insane, but he was also very ambitious. Zira, who was - at least at the jump - probably slightly less insane, may have suggested that they try to expand their sphere of influence beyond Pride Rock in an attempt to find more food. Except when Zira's group was out on its raid, Simba and co. came back and re-took Pride Rock. Zira's party suddenly found themselves stuck in the Outlands and unable to return home. Zira probably didn't mind this, as she could plot her revenge. The other lionesses probably weren't as thrilled, and were probably even less thrilled when they realized that the situation in Zira's domain was almost as bad as Scar's rule at Pride Rock. That may explain their quickness to turn on Zira after they realized that she was certifiable and cared more about revenge than she did about them.

[[WMG: Nuka is Scar's biological son]]
He is weak and mangy due to Scar being "on the shallow end of the gene pool".
* Nuka ''does'' say this line when he is introduced, which certainly implies something:
--> '''Nuka:''' "Scar wasn't even his [Kovu's] father, he just took him in".

[[WMG:Kovu just happens to look like Scar; it's a lucky coincidence]]
Even amongst humans people often look like each other. There's only so many variations.

[[WMG:Kovu as a cub is starting to grow a mane]]
I assume that's what the fur on the top of his head is, and he's more muscular than Simba was as in the first part of ''Disney/TheLionKing''. I'd pin him at under 2 years of age.
* Kovu, Kovu, Kovu...

[[WMG: A film will be made focusing on Scar]]
Similar to Maleficent, {{Disney}} will make another film focusing on another of their villains. What better choice than Scar - start off with his childhood and how he eventually grew to envy Mufasa, then the next portion of the movie chronicles his reign over the Pridelands. It would introduce characters such as Ahadi and Uru (Scar and Mufasa's parents) as well as providing depth on the Hyenas, Zira and other followers of Scar.

** Except lions lose their manes when castrated. Still, let's say for a moment that this is true. Honey badgers which live in the same habitats as lions are said to bite the testicles off other, larger animals. Maybe Scar had an unlucky encounter with a honey badger...

** Possibly Jossed in TimonAndPumbaa, since sometimes on the show, Timon and Pumbaa meet humans. There was even a human recurring villian named Quint.

[[WMG: Kira is the cub at the end of the first film]]

* The graveyard is obviously very old. Many of the bones break easily, suggesting that they've been decaying away for a while. Also, elephants often cover their dead in sticks and leaves. In the case of the Elephant Graveyard, any sticks and leaves have clearly all disintigrated long ago.
* If Africa is the wrong location for mammoths and mastadons, we can say that humans draged the bones down there for cultural reasons, and then wound up abandoning them.

He's scarred in more than one way; either by accident or due to some predator, Scar suffered a major injury that essentially sterilized him. Though he recovered, being emasculated felt humiliating, so he acts prideful/power-hungry to compensate. [[DrivenByEnvy He's jealous of Mufasa]] not only because [[ItsAllAboutMe he's leading the herd]], but because he can produce cubs. Despite having his own mate, he never had children because of this CripplingCastration.

Similar to Maleficent, {{Disney}} will make another film focusing on another of their villains. What better choice than Scar - start off with his childhood and how he eventually grew to envy Mufasa, then the next portion of the movie chronicles his reign over the Pridelands. It would introduce characters such as Ahadi and Uru (Scar and Mufasa's parents) as well as providing depth on the Hyenas, Zira and other followers of Scar.