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14th Jun '16 6:52:44 AM memememememe
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...And then came out a small (at first) far-right political party, essentially willing to orchestrate an American remake of the British "Reclamation". Their program was quite similar to Norsefire... except for one lil' thing: they wanted to cosplay Romans rather than Vikings (y'know, 'cos a big country like the US would need to take an example of another big, brutal, epic Empire -- Vikings were brutal, but not really as epic as Rome). The rest of their rhetoric was roughly similar ("The democ'''rat'''s drove our country into crap, we've lost international influence and respect", blah-blah-blah, "Our economy is crippling 'cause of thousands of lazybone immigrants that prefer welfare to getting a job, and those demotwits do nothing but chat about it on live TV", blah-blah-blah, "Are we tired of being openly mocked and insulted by everyone? (YEEEAAAH!!!) So let's show 'em we're capable to recover and come back more powerful!").

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...And then came out a small (at first) far-right political party, essentially willing to orchestrate an American remake of the British "Reclamation". Their program was quite similar to Norsefire... except for one lil' thing: they wanted to cosplay Romans rather than Vikings Nazis (y'know, 'cos a big country like the US would need to take an example of another big, brutal, epic Empire -- Vikings but Nazis were brutal, but not really as epic as Rome).way too overdone). The rest of their rhetoric was roughly similar ("The democ'''rat'''s drove our country into crap, we've lost international influence and respect", blah-blah-blah, "Our economy is crippling 'cause of thousands of lazybone immigrants that prefer welfare to getting a job, and those demotwits do nothing but chat about it on live TV", blah-blah-blah, "Are we tired of being openly mocked and insulted by everyone? (YEEEAAAH!!!) So let's show 'em we're capable to recover and come back more powerful!").
24th Apr '16 11:08:18 PM erforce
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* And the characters: the main heroine (a no-nonsense tough woman who appears almost emotionless) is struggling to save her sister[[spoiler:, failing this task (Serah is crystallized, though gets better until VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2, that is, while Prim is killed off for good]]. The black-haired tanned hunter who always has a snidy remark and is fiercely protective of his/her loved ones (and remember that in early stages of development, Fang was male!). The fan-favourite male characters (Finnick and Cid Raines) who help the main characters and [[spoiler: both die in the finale of the story]] And both casts have a character named Snow (one as first name, one as surname).
* And VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2: this time, the hunter character (Noel) is male and still resembles Gale, while the main heroine wields a bow (and her motives also have to do with her sister, though this time, the protagonist's the younger one), and is still engaged to Snow, while he barely has any screen-time in the game (and Peeta is [[spoiler: BrainwashedAndCrazy for the greater part of Mockingjay]].[[spoiler: And at the end of XIII-2, the younger sister still dies]]

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* And the characters: the main heroine (a no-nonsense tough woman who appears almost emotionless) is struggling to save her sister[[spoiler:, failing this task (Serah is crystallized, though gets better until VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'', that is, while Prim is killed off for good]]. The black-haired tanned hunter who always has a snidy remark and is fiercely protective of his/her loved ones (and remember that in early stages of development, Fang was male!). The fan-favourite male characters (Finnick and Cid Raines) who help the main characters and [[spoiler: both die in the finale of the story]] And both casts have a character named Snow (one as first name, one as surname).
* And VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'': this time, the hunter character (Noel) is male and still resembles Gale, while the main heroine wields a bow (and her motives also have to do with her sister, though this time, the protagonist's the younger one), and is still engaged to Snow, while he barely has any screen-time in the game (and Peeta is [[spoiler: BrainwashedAndCrazy for the greater part of Mockingjay]].[[spoiler: And at the end of XIII-2, ''XIII-2'', the younger sister still dies]]
23rd Apr '16 4:56:27 AM ProfitLlama
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** This may not be accurate as the members of the Imperium speak in a British-like accent, unlike most of the citizens of Panem. Since Chaos gods exist in the 40k universe, wouldn't some people be psykers and/or corrupted by Chaos?
26th Mar '16 7:50:57 PM tacomaster
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[[WMG: If Katniss had not volunteered, Primrose would have won.]]
Yeah... just that.
21st Feb '16 5:53:17 PM AgentKyles
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** ...Maybe they're Celts who didn't make it to D4? Seriously you thought all Celts are red-headed? Actually, quite many of 'em are slightly dark-skinned brunets (so-called Black Irish), perfectly matching the description of D12's inhabitants.
3rd Jan '16 10:36:13 PM therose
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**Panem was stated to have been divided into 13 districts before the rebellion which resulted in the Hunger Games being imposed. That said, I think there is a lot of empty land between Districts, and there could perhaps be some people living in some of the remoter places who have managed to escape the Capitol's notice.




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*If ALL the tributes were in on the plan, how would that work? The Careers try to kill Katniss, Peeta, and the alliance to keep up appearances, knowing however they are not supposed to kill Katniss and Peeta? If they knew, they might give the appearance of holding back from killing Katniss and Peeta and targeting others. Cashmere and Gloss did, however, actually try to kill Katniss and Peeta, and didn't succeed. Brutus and Enobaria tried very hard to survive and outlived many. I don't see what the rebellion even had to gain from getting the Careers in on it, if staged opposition would have the same effect as real opposition anyway? 1 and especially 2 were very loyalist districts and the Victors appreciated what the Capitol gave them.




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**Those Games didn't take place.




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**Alternatively, Coin was a parent whose child was reaped and was killed in the Games. Her revenge is directed at the prominent Capitol citizens with children, not the children themselves. You do it to my child and make me suffer, I do it to your child and make you suffer. Although how did she manage to escape District Two and make it all to Thirteen, eventually becoming its leader?
3rd Jan '16 9:49:14 PM therose
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[[WMG: The designs on the covers of the books represent the Capitol and the Districts, connected by train]]
The first book has two circle things each connected to a middle circle with lines, and Katniss's mockingjay pin. The circles outside the middle are districts connected to the Capitol in the center by train tracks. On the Catching Fire cover the middle Capitol circle is divided up into wedges like the Quarter Quell arena (which I think was located in or very near the Capitol) and depicts a jabberjay. The Mockingjay cover features of course a mockingjay, and the circles and train tracks are all broken up because the Capitol and Districts are now at war.



[[WMG: Peeta is not named after pita bread]]
So many people say so because of the sound-alike but the spelling is quite different and that matters a lot in the evolution/etymology of names. Nobody ever relates his name to his occupation in story, and pita bread is never mentioned as even being eaten or known of by that name. Peeta is just a random word, possibly a variation of the name Peter. Did Delly Cartwright's family run a deli? Did Haymitch's family pitch hay or something?




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**I'd like to see a source for the above claim.




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**Does anybody think that lower-numbered Districts would be closer to the Capitol, with the Districts numbers getting higher the further you get, up to 11, 12, and 13 the furthest out (east)? Otherwise, what would the reason for numbering the Districts the way they are be?
31st Dec '15 5:50:44 AM AgentKyles
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They reorganize the country's administrative division (13 provinces are easier to govern than 50, especially with your population significantly shortened by the war, diseases, famine and migration). Then they relocate the capital city (Washington is too damn close for [[LaResistance all those enemies]] of [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny our glorious nation]] based in <s>Quebec and likely New England</s> District 13, right?).

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They reorganize the country's administrative division (13 provinces are easier to govern than 50, especially with your population significantly shortened by the war, diseases, famine and migration). Then they relocate the capital city (Washington is too damn close for [[LaResistance all those enemies]] of [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny our glorious nation]] based in <s>Quebec <del>Quebec and likely New England</s> England</del> District 13, right?).right?).


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31st Dec '15 5:47:25 AM AgentKyles
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[[WMG: ''The Hunger Games'' is the future of America in ''V for Vendetta'' continuity.]]
A really odd theory, but still... My opinion on the origin is based on my belief that The Hunger Games share setting with [[Film/VForVendetta V4V]] of all things. Might be like this: the USA were really in a problem in the mid-21st century (their distant relatives in the UK [[PropagandaMachine were simply exagerrating]] that "Ulcered Sphincter of Arse-erica" were anything but torn apart... [[FridgeHorror or they]] [[FallenStatesOfAmerica weren't]]). There was [[ThePlague the epidemy]], the war and stuff like that, the economic (and social as consequence) system started to collapse, so America was verging on the edge of chaos and anarchy...
...And then came out a small (at first) far-right political party, essentially willing to orchestrate an American remake of the British "Reclamation". Their program was quite similar to Norsefire... except for one lil' thing: they wanted to cosplay Romans rather than Vikings (y'know, 'cos a big country like the US would need to take an example of another big, brutal, epic Empire -- Vikings were brutal, but not really as epic as Rome). The rest of their rhetoric was roughly similar ("The democ'''rat'''s drove our country into crap, we've lost international influence and respect", blah-blah-blah, "Our economy is crippling 'cause of thousands of lazybone immigrants that prefer welfare to getting a job, and those demotwits do nothing but chat about it on live TV", blah-blah-blah, "Are we tired of being openly mocked and insulted by everyone? (YEEEAAAH!!!) So let's show 'em we're capable to recover and come back more powerful!").
They gathered power quickly, promising the country to return to its highest glory (possibly even secretly backed by Norsefire at some point, after all they're NotSoDifferent). Progressively they gained more votes and more states to support them, more seats in the Congress. And finally there came a day that after that election [[ThereCanBeOnlyOne there could remain only one party]] -- most likely, of the two, as this party would've assimilated all of the closest far-right, semi-fascist parties, and the leftists gathered round all the socialist or liberal-leaning parties in kinda "#Alliance4Democracy". The rest became completely minor and negligible by then.
So there was an election and the two alliances got approximately equal percentage of votes (the other parties, as mentioned before, didn't matter). There was the re-election to be arranged to decide which of the two gets into office. But... suddenly, a few days (or hell, even hours) before the second round, some kind of... a terrible horrible bad thing happens (a terrorist attack, a shootout, a mass fighting/riot with a few dozens of corpses...) and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything yes you got it right, our far-right party blames it on their opponents]]. The election ends with far-rights getting a majority -- even a slightest one would do, let alone landslide...
And the first thing they do is to ban all the other parties from parliament. Their opponents, definitely not amused by this, start war against them. Police, military, and other force organizations divide between the two (those rooting for the far-rights would later become Peacekeepers, whereas those who've chosen to side with democrats eventually defect to District 13). They rename the country to Panem (1. Panem is Latin for "bread" -- see BreadAndCircuses, and 2. Panem = PanAm = Pan-American, likely in the process they have taken control not only over US, but some parts of Canada and Mexico as well).
They reorganize the country's administrative division (13 provinces are easier to govern than 50, especially with your population significantly shortened by the war, diseases, famine and migration). Then they relocate the capital city (Washington is too damn close for [[LaResistance all those enemies]] of [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny our glorious nation]] based in <s>Quebec and likely New England</s> District 13, right?).
Finally, when our "putting on Rome" party gets a sort-of-win over the democratic alliance (or rather a peace treaty between them), they remember one more great thing from Rome: [[GladiatorGames gladiator fights]]. Well, they decide, first it will provide the main amusement of the year, and second, it's a nice way to bully the districts so that they would obey (and if there are gonna be riots... [[OppressiveStatesOfAmerica there are gonna be Peacekeepers]]). And here comes a new "vicious and voracious violation of volition" named Panem -- as it is.
P.S. At one moment, a thought glimpsed in my mind that some of their British counterparts from Norsefire fled to the US to join that far-right party, after their regime in the UK fell due to V's actions.
15th Dec '15 10:22:42 AM HumanTorch2
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* A Quarter Quell that selects only siblings as pairs from each district
* A Quarter Quell that selects two tributes, but one must kill the other before they enter the arena
* A Quarter Quell that selects two tributes randomly, without regard to gender
* A Quarter Quell that selects four tributes per district, with two tributes being over the age to go into the reaping
* A Quarter Quell that selects three tributes per district with no regard to gender

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* A Quarter Quell that selects only siblings as pairs from each district
district.
* A Quarter Quell that selects two tributes, but one must kill the other before they enter the arena
arena.
* A Quarter Quell that selects two tributes randomly, without regard to gender
gender.
* A Quarter Quell that selects four tributes per district, with two tributes being over the age to go into the reaping
reaping.
* A Quarter Quell that selects three tributes per district with no regard to gendergender.




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* A Quarter Quell where the tributes from each district act as TagTeams, with only one being allowed in the Arena at a time. The last team standing wins.
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