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2nd Nov '16 3:14:51 PM RookEncounte
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** District 13 ''process'' graphite. It would make sense for it to be in New England, as it's specialty is specifically nuclear technology and innovation, and between MIT's high-energy labs, Boston's already-existence (although mostly covered) underground areas, and District 12 being the first place someone from District 13 off the edge of Panem's map would encounter, it has to be somewhere northeast, and why not New England. Also, because it would be an {{Ironic Echo}}: New England is part of an empire it dislike, so it rebels and breaks free, only to have its own problems with governing, equality, and freedom almost four score years later.
2nd Nov '16 3:03:46 PM RookEncounte
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[[WMG: There was no "Rebellion" in the Dark Days]]
So, the timeline as we know it, or rather as it is taught by the Capital
??? Years ago: Great Cataclysms
--> "the disasters, the droughts, the storms, the fires, the encroaching seas that swallowed up so much of the land, the brutal war for what little sustenance remained."
?? Years ago: Panem is formed. For some reason, the districts go to war, with the Capital (and possible each other?)
74 Years ago: The Capital is victorious, writes the Treaty of Treason, starting the Hunger Games.

What exactly, tells us that the Districts rebelled, or were under the rule of the Capital in the first place? And the Districts are far too evenly divided, along both ethnic and social lines, to be natural. Given how much other revisionist history the Capital spews, it's more than possible that some number of separate states formed, went to war with each other, and the one that was finally victorious divided up the land and the people, called itself "the Capital" and gave demands of its member states about what it wanted each to produce, moving around people en mass to divide them up into visually similar ethnic groups and reinforce their divisions, hoping that [[BatmanGambit if any District rebelled, they would have too little in common with their neighbors]] to gain the support of the majority of Districts.


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** And you think that's accidental? The founders/organizers of Panem and the districts were inhumane enough to make a spectacle out of almost two dozen children being killed every year, and canny enough to do it in a way that will mostly pit the districts against one another. Why wouldn't they divide up people into districts by pre-disaster stereotypes, reinforcing xenophobia and divisions among them?
2nd Nov '16 2:47:12 PM RookEncounte
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[[WMG: The Mutts at the end are [[Literature/MortalEngines Stalkers]]]]
Self explanatory, no?
* [[SelfExplanatory No.]]

[[WMG: The Hunger Games takes place in the same future as Mortal Engines.]]
Civilisation in America did survive the Sixty Minute War, but the rest of the world thought it was completely destroyed, which is why Panem is isolated. However, centuries after the events of The Hunger Games, Panem does wipe itself out, creating the Dead Continent.

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[[WMG: The Mutts at the end are [[Literature/MortalEngines Stalkers]]]]
Self explanatory, no?
* [[SelfExplanatory No.]]

[[WMG: The Hunger Games takes place in the same future as [[Literature/MortalEngines Mortal Engines.Engines]].]]
Civilisation Civilization in America did survive the Sixty Minute War, but the rest of the world thought it was completely destroyed, which is why Panem is isolated. However, centuries after isolated, and between District 13 and the events Capital, any large groups approaching are shot down, leaving people to believe that anyone going there dies of The Hunger Games, fallout or something similar. It could be that Panem does wipe itself out, creating is concealing the Dead Continent.
history of the Sixty Minutes War either because they have [[FutureImperfect lost the records]], or wanted to conceal their shame. District 13 has fallout shelters meant for the long term, which may have been created before Panem even formed. Also, that would explain what the rest of the world is up to.
* The fashion of [[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation coloring one's skin in fantastic shades]] is deliberately imitating the appearance of Scriven, while at the same time the slang term "Mutt" for "mutant" or "mutation" may indicate prejudice against the actual Scriven. North America may even be considered the "Dead Continent" because America specialized in biological warfare and genetics (see all the mutant species), and during the Sixty Minutes War unleashed biological weapons on the rest of the world, which could explain why President Snow believes that everyone outside Panem is dead.
* The The Mutts at the end are clearly [[Literature/MortalEngines Stalkers]], technologically reanimated corpses, which may or may not retain their original personalities, but can be programmed to hunt and kill specific people. The Mutts are just biological rather than mechanical in their reanimation, but otherwise the same principle: take a corpse, stuff it full of technology in and around it, and send it back to kill its friends/killers for psychological shock and horror value.
2nd Nov '16 2:29:37 PM RookEncounte
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** Also fits well with Katniss' line from the beginning of the book, albeit with poison.
--> Gale and I agree that if we have to choose between dying of hunger and a bullet in the head, the bullet would be much quicker.
18th Oct '16 2:11:52 PM CharlesTheBold
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* Or, possibly, he was a once-efficient dictator whose judgement is starting to fail due to age and illness. Nobody dares comment on Snow's decline because they could get their heads chopped off. This could explain why the Games system lasted for decades but started to come apart in Katniss's time.



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* The people in Divergent III seem to be Lamarkians -- they somehow thought that creating the factions would stress out the system and cause the Divergents to evolve.
22nd Sep '16 4:38:42 PM LupineMoon
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* Back to the original theory that Prim was reaped as punishment for Katniss's hunting. Then why didn't they wait a year to have Prim selected when Katniss couldn't volunteer?


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[[WMG: Katniss's and Gale's fathers were killed in a "mining accident" because they were hunting illegally]]
They didn't want to kill them in their hunting grounds so had to find another way to do it and this was the easiest and least suspicious.
19th Sep '16 10:08:35 PM Sharysa
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* [[Spoiler: The latter is correct]].

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* [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: The latter is correct]].
correct.]]
14th Jun '16 6:52:44 AM memememememe
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...And then came out a small (at first) far-right political party, essentially willing to orchestrate an American remake of the British "Reclamation". Their program was quite similar to Norsefire... except for one lil' thing: they wanted to cosplay Romans rather than Vikings (y'know, 'cos a big country like the US would need to take an example of another big, brutal, epic Empire -- Vikings were brutal, but not really as epic as Rome). The rest of their rhetoric was roughly similar ("The democ'''rat'''s drove our country into crap, we've lost international influence and respect", blah-blah-blah, "Our economy is crippling 'cause of thousands of lazybone immigrants that prefer welfare to getting a job, and those demotwits do nothing but chat about it on live TV", blah-blah-blah, "Are we tired of being openly mocked and insulted by everyone? (YEEEAAAH!!!) So let's show 'em we're capable to recover and come back more powerful!").

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...And then came out a small (at first) far-right political party, essentially willing to orchestrate an American remake of the British "Reclamation". Their program was quite similar to Norsefire... except for one lil' thing: they wanted to cosplay Romans rather than Vikings Nazis (y'know, 'cos a big country like the US would need to take an example of another big, brutal, epic Empire -- Vikings but Nazis were brutal, but not really as epic as Rome).way too overdone). The rest of their rhetoric was roughly similar ("The democ'''rat'''s drove our country into crap, we've lost international influence and respect", blah-blah-blah, "Our economy is crippling 'cause of thousands of lazybone immigrants that prefer welfare to getting a job, and those demotwits do nothing but chat about it on live TV", blah-blah-blah, "Are we tired of being openly mocked and insulted by everyone? (YEEEAAAH!!!) So let's show 'em we're capable to recover and come back more powerful!").
24th Apr '16 11:08:18 PM erforce
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* And the characters: the main heroine (a no-nonsense tough woman who appears almost emotionless) is struggling to save her sister[[spoiler:, failing this task (Serah is crystallized, though gets better until VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2, that is, while Prim is killed off for good]]. The black-haired tanned hunter who always has a snidy remark and is fiercely protective of his/her loved ones (and remember that in early stages of development, Fang was male!). The fan-favourite male characters (Finnick and Cid Raines) who help the main characters and [[spoiler: both die in the finale of the story]] And both casts have a character named Snow (one as first name, one as surname).
* And VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2: this time, the hunter character (Noel) is male and still resembles Gale, while the main heroine wields a bow (and her motives also have to do with her sister, though this time, the protagonist's the younger one), and is still engaged to Snow, while he barely has any screen-time in the game (and Peeta is [[spoiler: BrainwashedAndCrazy for the greater part of Mockingjay]].[[spoiler: And at the end of XIII-2, the younger sister still dies]]

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* And the characters: the main heroine (a no-nonsense tough woman who appears almost emotionless) is struggling to save her sister[[spoiler:, failing this task (Serah is crystallized, though gets better until VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'', that is, while Prim is killed off for good]]. The black-haired tanned hunter who always has a snidy remark and is fiercely protective of his/her loved ones (and remember that in early stages of development, Fang was male!). The fan-favourite male characters (Finnick and Cid Raines) who help the main characters and [[spoiler: both die in the finale of the story]] And both casts have a character named Snow (one as first name, one as surname).
* And VideoGame/VideoGame/VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'': this time, the hunter character (Noel) is male and still resembles Gale, while the main heroine wields a bow (and her motives also have to do with her sister, though this time, the protagonist's the younger one), and is still engaged to Snow, while he barely has any screen-time in the game (and Peeta is [[spoiler: BrainwashedAndCrazy for the greater part of Mockingjay]].[[spoiler: And at the end of XIII-2, ''XIII-2'', the younger sister still dies]]
23rd Apr '16 4:56:27 AM ProfitLlama
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** This may not be accurate as the members of the Imperium speak in a British-like accent, unlike most of the citizens of Panem. Since Chaos gods exist in the 40k universe, wouldn't some people be psykers and/or corrupted by Chaos?
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