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[[WMG: Every explanation for how Nerevar died and the events surrounding this are true.]]
When the Tribunal used the heart to become gods, it's suggested that this resulted in two timelines being merged. In one timeline, they were always gods, and in another they were mortals who became gods. They remember being mortal, and have mortal histories, but at the same time remember always being divine and have divine histories.

I suggest this extends further than those two timelines. Every explanation for how Nerevar died is one timeline. Explains why no answer has any more evidence, and why all have people in history who claimed to have witnessed them: The merging of timelines means they all happened simultaneously, Nerevar died of his wounds on the slopes of Red Mountain and Nerevar was also murdered by the Tribunal during a ritual to summon Azura. Every contradiction in every account happened, they just all happened simultaneously.
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[[WMG: For whatever reason, Mara is absurdly powerful during the events of Morrowind.]]
This is why she can send Ama Nin as an (admittedly noncombatant) avatar with no problem to go about healing people (and getting kidnapped by winged twilights) when it took Akatosh some severe questlines a bit later in order to kick out Mehrunes Dagon during Oblivion.
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* Voryn Dagoth [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation could be]] the HoYay counterpart to Almalexia, even as the wife of Indoril Nerevar she may have just been TheBeard (they didn't have any children).
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* Couple problems: first, the Cuirass of the Savior's Hide is associated with Hercine, not Malacath. Second, deadric lords, at the time Morrowind takes place, cannot manifest physically in Mundus, period-- when summoned, they are able to invest only their awareness and voice, as they do when you activate their shrines to get quests from them. Third, the deadra, having by definition refused to invest any part of themselves in Lorkhan's creation of the World, are incapable of the creation of life. Fyr certainly has some thematic associations with Malacath, though, no doubt about that, but he isn't the Prince himself.

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* Couple problems: first, the Cuirass of the Savior's Hide is associated with Hercine, not Malacath. Second, deadric daedric lords, at the time Morrowind takes place, cannot manifest physically in Mundus, period-- when summoned, they are able to invest only their awareness and voice, as they do when you activate their shrines to get quests from them. Third, the deadra, daedra, having by definition refused to invest any part of themselves in Lorkhan's creation of the World, are incapable of the creation of life. Fyr certainly has some thematic associations with Malacath, though, no doubt about that, but he isn't the Prince himself.
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[[WMG: The Mudcrab Merchant was an aspect or servant of Sanguine.]]
He's drunk and has alcoholic beverages on hand. Makes perfect sense.
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* No.
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* Although it should be pointed that wheter or not Tribunal did kill Nerevar in the first place is ambiguous at best.

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* Although it should be pointed that wheter whether or not Tribunal did kill Nerevar in the first place is ambiguous at best.
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* The terminology is the other way around (the official line is that Mephala was the Anticipation of Vivec -- she came before him, after all), but other than minor quibble, an interesting theory -- and it certainly makes for interesting implications given that Lie Rock was supposedly sent by ''Sheogorath''.
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*** Considering the other content of the 36 books, I wouldn't exactly consider it a reliable source. Just because it was written by a god doesn't mean it isn't absolute nonsense.
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** Vivec placed a statement that he murdered Nerevar in the 36 Lessons, hidden in code.


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... He was the anticipation of Sheogorath. To be more accurate, his goal was to challenge the dunmer people by invoking their most significant mental weakness, their blind faith (which was sheogorath's role as part of the house of troubles). As such, he provides them with obviously false religious materials. Most obviously, there are the 36 sermons, but there is also the naming of lie rock (in which the ministry of truth resides).

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... He was the anticipation of Sheogorath. To be more accurate, his goal was to challenge the dunmer people by invoking their most significant mental weakness, their blind faith (which was sheogorath's role as part of the house of troubles). As such, he provides them with obviously false religious materials. Most obviously, there are the 36 sermons, but there is also the naming of lie rock (in which the ministry of truth resides). So far, the dunmer haven't actually caught on yet, much to his disappointment.
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[[WMG: Vivec wasn't the anticipation of Mephala...]]
... He was the anticipation of Sheogorath. To be more accurate, his goal was to challenge the dunmer people by invoking their most significant mental weakness, their blind faith (which was sheogorath's role as part of the house of troubles). As such, he provides them with obviously false religious materials. Most obviously, there are the 36 sermons, but there is also the naming of lie rock (in which the ministry of truth resides).
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*** Who said that Fyr was joining the Battlemages? A respected and powerful Telvanni wizard would probably be more than welcome to study at the Battlespire if he sought to maybe learn some different types of magic.
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The Thieves Guild questline in ''{{Skyrim}}'' provides the answer. Over its course, we find out that Nocturnal is not only the Daedric Prince of night, but of luck as well. Likewise, whoever bears Her artifact, the Skeleton Key, is gifted with an immense amount of luck that will make all his/her endeavors profitable. It also has the ability to unlock ''everything'', including [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower human potential]]. So by getting it, Gaenor quickly became immensely rich, powerful, and lucky.

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The Thieves Guild questline in ''{{Skyrim}}'' ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' provides the answer. Over its course, we find out that Nocturnal is not only the Daedric Prince of night, but of luck as well. Likewise, whoever bears Her artifact, the Skeleton Key, is gifted with an immense amount of luck that will make all his/her endeavors profitable. It also has the ability to unlock ''everything'', including [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower human potential]]. So by getting it, Gaenor quickly became immensely rich, powerful, and lucky.
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* Although it should be pointed that wheter or not Tribunal did kill Nerevar in the first place is ambiguous at best.
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*** Maybe it was actually his middle daughter-wife, Gamme. The only one not present in the tower when you arrive.
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They are servents of Mehrunes Dagon. Their purpose; distract the adventurers until his [[TheElderScrollsFour armies]] can invade...

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They are servents of Mehrunes Dagon. Their purpose; distract the adventurers until his [[TheElderScrollsFour [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion armies]] can invade...
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This turns Almalexia into a DracoinLeatherPants, but bear with me. One thing that struck this troper as odd was how Sotha Sil was described as a reclusive introvert, and yet was able to convince an entire nation of people that their skin turning to ash was a good thing. Sure, maybe it was his new god powers that let him do it, but Sotha Sil was a powerful wizard even before godhood. What if he used a mass charm spell on the new Dunmer people to help him calm them down? Even without his god powers (as some sources say the Dunmer curse was put on the Chimer before the Tribunal's ascension), he was powerful enough he might have been able to do it.

Almalexia [[spoiler:killing Sotha Sil and wanting to kill Vivec]] doesn't make much sense in the game, but in the Trial of Vivec it's implied that [[spoiler:Vivec killed Nerevar in order to have Almalexia]]. Therefore, taking that information and the paragraph above, what if [[spoiler:Vivec had Sotha Sil used a charm spell on her to make her turn on Nerevar?]] Especially as Nerevar is painted as a saint (if a naïve one) who has the best of intentions and couldn't hurt a fly. If Almalexia genuinely hated her husband, or if Nerevar was actually a bad person, wouldn't she have had him portrayed as much worse in the history books? [[Spoiler:What if she found out what Vivec had Sotha Sil do, and the Tribunal expansion was all about getting revenge? As for her turning on the Nerevarine, they DO say that guilt drives you mad...]]

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This turns Almalexia into a DracoinLeatherPants, DracoInLeatherPants, but bear with me. One thing that struck this troper as odd was how Sotha Sil was described as a reclusive introvert, and yet was able to convince an entire nation of people that their skin turning to ash was a good thing. Sure, maybe it was his new god powers that let him do it, but Sotha Sil was a powerful wizard even before godhood. What if he used a mass charm spell on the new Dunmer people to help him calm them down? Even without his god powers (as some sources say the Dunmer curse was put on the Chimer before the Tribunal's ascension), he was powerful enough he might have been able to do it.

Almalexia [[spoiler:killing Sotha Sil and wanting to kill Vivec]] doesn't make much sense in the game, but in the Trial of Vivec it's implied that [[spoiler:Vivec killed Nerevar in order to have Almalexia]]. Therefore, taking that information and the paragraph above, what if [[spoiler:Vivec had Sotha Sil used a charm spell on her to make her turn on Nerevar?]] Especially as Nerevar is painted as a saint (if a naïve one) who has the best of intentions and couldn't hurt a fly. If Almalexia genuinely hated her husband, or if Nerevar was actually a bad person, wouldn't she have had him portrayed as much worse in the history books? [[Spoiler:What [[spoiler:What if she found out what Vivec had Sotha Sil do, and the Tribunal expansion was all about getting revenge? As for her turning on the Nerevarine, they DO say that guilt drives you mad...]]
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[[WMG: Almalexia acted the way she did in Tribunal out of guilt and a need for revenge.]]

This turns Almalexia into a DracoinLeatherPants, but bear with me. One thing that struck this troper as odd was how Sotha Sil was described as a reclusive introvert, and yet was able to convince an entire nation of people that their skin turning to ash was a good thing. Sure, maybe it was his new god powers that let him do it, but Sotha Sil was a powerful wizard even before godhood. What if he used a mass charm spell on the new Dunmer people to help him calm them down? Even without his god powers (as some sources say the Dunmer curse was put on the Chimer before the Tribunal's ascension), he was powerful enough he might have been able to do it.

Almalexia [[spoiler:killing Sotha Sil and wanting to kill Vivec]] doesn't make much sense in the game, but in the Trial of Vivec it's implied that [[spoiler:Vivec killed Nerevar in order to have Almalexia]]. Therefore, taking that information and the paragraph above, what if [[spoiler:Vivec had Sotha Sil used a charm spell on her to make her turn on Nerevar?]] Especially as Nerevar is painted as a saint (if a naïve one) who has the best of intentions and couldn't hurt a fly. If Almalexia genuinely hated her husband, or if Nerevar was actually a bad person, wouldn't she have had him portrayed as much worse in the history books? [[Spoiler:What if she found out what Vivec had Sotha Sil do, and the Tribunal expansion was all about getting revenge? As for her turning on the Nerevarine, they DO say that guilt drives you mad...]]
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[[WMG: Vivec is a crack RPF writer.]]
Come on, this is the guy who wrote [[CrackFic the 36 Lessons of Vivec]] where he paired himself with freaking [[CrackPairing Molag Bal]]. He's probably got some [[HoYay Nerevar/Dagoth]] fanfic lying around somewhere.

And on a similar note, he probably runs ff.net too.
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[[WMG: Gaenor acquired the Skeleton Key]]
One of the greatest mysteries in ''Morrowind'' is the Bosmer "entrepreneur," Gaenor. He starts out as a lowly level 1 pauper who constantly begs the Nerevarine for money. Then, over the course of three days, [[TookALevelInBadass he becomes a level 50 warrior]], decks himself out in a full suit of Ebony Armor, and gets an ''insanely'' high LuckStat that makes him almost NighInvulnerable. How could he have possibly have accomplished all this in such a short amount of time?

The Thieves Guild questline in ''{{Skyrim}}'' provides the answer. Over its course, we find out that Nocturnal is not only the Daedric Prince of night, but of luck as well. Likewise, whoever bears Her artifact, the Skeleton Key, is gifted with an immense amount of luck that will make all his/her endeavors profitable. It also has the ability to unlock ''everything'', including [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower human potential]]. So by getting it, Gaenor quickly became immensely rich, powerful, and lucky.

Oh, and the Skeleton Key you can get in ''Morrowind''? Not the same thing. That's not ''the'' Skeleton Key of Nocturnal, that's just ''a'' skeleton key, a special key that can open most any lock that just effectively acts like a high quality lockpick.
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* Most likely, he simply agrees with the ideals that Malacath represents.
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* Is it possible that the Heart of Lorkhan is actually the heart of Kefka?
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Some of the actions that Dagoth Ur takes toward the Nerevarine start to make a lot more sense. For example, telling the Nerevarine that he really wants to have him/her back ''while'' sending sleepers and the corprus disease, evidence of an abusive relationship.

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Some of the actions that Dagoth Ur takes toward the Nerevarine start to make a lot more sense. For example, telling the Nerevarine that he really wants to have him/her back ''while'' sending sleepers and the corprus disease, evidence of an abusive relationship. This would also help explain why Dagoth Ur is so desperate to have the Nerevarine, even if the player takes the path of not actually being a reincarnation.
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Some of the actions that Dagoth Ur takes toward the Nerevarine start to make a lot more sense. For example, telling the Nerevarine that he really wants to have him/her back as a friend ''while'' sending sleepers and the corprus disease, evidence of an abusive relationship.

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Some of the actions that Dagoth Ur takes toward the Nerevarine start to make a lot more sense. For example, telling the Nerevarine that he really wants to have him/her back as a friend ''while'' sending sleepers and the corprus disease, evidence of an abusive relationship.
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[[WMG: Dagoth Ur and Nerevar were lovers]]
Some of the actions that Dagoth Ur takes toward the Nerevarine start to make a lot more sense. For example, telling the Nerevarine that he really wants to have him/her back as a friend ''while'' sending sleepers and the corprus disease, evidence of an abusive relationship.
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** Of course, that begs the question of why a four-thousand year old Telvanni mage-lord would have done a stint in the Imperial Battlemages (the organisation, not the position) during the Simulacrum...
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* It's more likely that Fyr is actually the hero of the Battlespire game, as he possesses or has close links to several of the artifacts from that game(Savior's Hide, Daedric Crescent, ect.).
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[[WMG: The Tribunal (Or Almsivi, if you prefer) and Dagoth Ur are [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lords]]]]
And the Heart of Lorkhan is their [[Series/DoctorWho TARDIS]]. They used to each have their own TARDIS', but they were destroyed... somehow. Now they fight for it. Sunder, Keening, and Wraithguard activate some sort of auto teleport function. The Heart doesn't seem to be destroyed. It more seems like it disapeared. One possible flaw is that the teleport was different from The Doctor's TARDIS teleport, but that just be because it was a different model.
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*** Exactly. They ''are'' the Chosen Ones because they're the only who can decide their own fate. That's why you can end up as the leader of every guild in Tamriel.

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