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[[WMG:Carrie White from ''Carrie'' is a [[Main/ElfenLied diclonius]].]]
She has telepathic powers similar to the diclonius' vectors. She, like Lucy, was also bullied in school, and she goes on a killing rampage after getting upset.
* Then where are her horns? In a detail-laden story like King's, you'd expect those to come up at least once.
[[WMG: Las Vegas, {{Series/Heroes}}, TheXFiles, TheStand and KnightRider all take place in the same or parallel universes.]]
Both KR and Heroes have a Montecito, the setting of Las Vegas. Linderman was apparently running the casino, which would fit with the Montecito's high owner turnover ratio. It's possible the Company was killing or persuading the previous owners, using people with powers, in order to get their hands on it. Also, the Shanti virus, in an alternate universe, is what kills everyone in Stephen King's ''TheStand'', except much earlier (This is supported by King himself, who said that TheStand universe was just an alternate version of ours). Possibly due to time-travel, or the Company experimenting with an early form of the virus. The Company coverups would also explain all the weird stuff that keeps happening to [[TheXFiles Mulder and Scully]], especially if you've read the "Last One Standing" fanfic.
[[WMG: The Buick 8 and the Arrowhead project weren't the only portals.]]
The Gunslinger series mentions various portals between the two worlds. The special thing is only the Buick was planned to be a portal by the Darkman. Arrowhead was taken advantage of, while all other portals could be extremely difficult to open.
* I don't think Arrowhead project was a natural portal, if you think of a natural portal as a door what project Arrowhead did is like knocking a hole through the wall. On that note if the film version and the novella are separate levels of the tower, project arrowhead happened in at least two different universes.
She has telepathic powers similar to the diclonius' vectors. She, like Lucy, was also bullied in school, and she goes on a killing rampage after getting upset.
* Then where are her horns? In a detail-laden story like King's, you'd expect those to come up at least once.
[[WMG: Las Vegas, {{Series/Heroes}}, TheXFiles, TheStand and KnightRider all take place in the same or parallel universes.]]
Both KR and Heroes have a Montecito, the setting of Las Vegas. Linderman was apparently running the casino, which would fit with the Montecito's high owner turnover ratio. It's possible the Company was killing or persuading the previous owners, using people with powers, in order to get their hands on it. Also, the Shanti virus, in an alternate universe, is what kills everyone in Stephen King's ''TheStand'', except much earlier (This is supported by King himself, who said that TheStand universe was just an alternate version of ours). Possibly due to time-travel, or the Company experimenting with an early form of the virus. The Company coverups would also explain all the weird stuff that keeps happening to [[TheXFiles Mulder and Scully]], especially if you've read the "Last One Standing" fanfic.
[[WMG: The Buick 8 and the Arrowhead project weren't the only portals.]]
The Gunslinger series mentions various portals between the two worlds. The special thing is only the Buick was planned to be a portal by the Darkman. Arrowhead was taken advantage of, while all other portals could be extremely difficult to open.
* I don't think Arrowhead project was a natural portal, if you think of a natural portal as a door what project Arrowhead did is like knocking a hole through the wall. On that note if the film version and the novella are separate levels of the tower, project arrowhead happened in at least two different universes.
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* Then where are her horns? In a detail-laden story like King's, you'd expect those to come up at least once.
[[WMG: Las Vegas, {{Series/Heroes}}, TheXFiles, TheStand and KnightRider all take place in the same or parallel universes.]]
Both KR and Heroes have a Montecito, the setting of Las Vegas. Linderman was apparently running the casino, which would fit with the Montecito's high owner turnover ratio. It's possible the Company was killing or persuading the previous owners, using people with powers, in order to get their hands on it. Also, the Shanti virus, in an alternate universe, is what kills everyone in Stephen King's ''TheStand'', except much earlier (This is supported by King himself, who said that TheStand universe was just an alternate version of ours). Possibly due to time-travel, or the Company experimenting with an early form of the virus. The Company coverups would also explain all the weird stuff that keeps happening to [[TheXFiles Mulder and Scully]], especially if you've read the "Last One Standing" fanfic.
[[WMG: The Buick 8 and the Arrowhead project weren't the only portals.]]
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* I don't think Arrowhead project was a natural
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** They do mention the space between worlds can drive a man mad, so perhaps the Old Ones managed to create some kind of force field to keep them out, kind of like how spaceships can enter the Warp in Warhammer 40k?
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** Not so {{Jossed}}, especially considering that this is WMG. [[spoiler: Dandelo is very similar to It, and has a stuttering robotic servant named after the stuttering hero of ''It''. This, in combination with hints from ''Dreamcatcher'' that It is still alive, indicate that Dandelo is It in Allworld.]]
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** Not so {{Jossed}}, especially considering that this is WMG. [[spoiler: Dandelo is very similar to It, IT, and has a stuttering robotic servant named after the stuttering hero of ''It''.''{{It}}''. This, in combination with hints from ''Dreamcatcher'' that It is still alive, indicate that Dandelo is It in Allworld.]]
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** In {{It}}, the driving force behind IT was the deadlights (the red) circling outside the gates of the universe while the other that help the kids after the turtle was the white. Since Pennywise was the physical embodiment of the deadlights, It was[[spoiler:/is]] the most powerful creature in King's universe. All others that followed were decedents/creations of Pennywise or at least a varintant (like the Crimson King's Spider-god mother).
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** In {{It}}, the driving force behind IT was the deadlights (the red) circling outside the gates of the universe while the other that help the kids after the turtle was the white. Since Pennywise was the physical embodiment of the deadlights, It IT was[[spoiler:/is]] the most powerful creature in King's universe. All others that followed were decedents/creations of Pennywise or at least a varintant (like the Crimson King's Spider-god mother).
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* This troper recalls reading a theory that Dandelo (and perhaps even the Crimson King) were hatched from It's eggs.
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* This troper recalls reading a theory that Dandelo (and perhaps even the Crimson King) were [[spoiler: hatched from It's eggs.
IT's eggs]].
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*** Dandello and Lortz could easily be [[spoiler: IT's children. IT was pregnant afterall.]]
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** In It, the driving force behind it was the deadlights (the red) circling outside the gates of the universe while the other that help the kids after the turtle was the white. Since Pennywise was the physical embodiment of the deadlights, It was[[spoiler:/is]] the most powerful creature in King's universe. All others that followed were decedents/creations of Pennywise or at least a varintant (like the Crimson King's Spider-god mother).
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** In It, {{It}}, the driving force behind it IT was the deadlights (the red) circling outside the gates of the universe while the other that help the kids after the turtle was the white. Since Pennywise was the physical embodiment of the deadlights, It was[[spoiler:/is]] the most powerful creature in King's universe. All others that followed were decedents/creations of Pennywise or at least a varintant (like the Crimson King's Spider-god mother).
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** It's been implied in some places that a beam breaking was the result of Arrowhead.
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** {{Jossed}} by the last book. ''Insomnia'' is not a part of the tower universe; it's actually a deception in the same mode that Odd Lane is a glamour and a "wrong direction".
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** {{Jossed}} by the last book. ''Insomnia'' ''{{Insomnia}}'' is not a part of the tower universe; it's actually a deception in the same mode that Odd Lane is a glamour and a "wrong direction".
*** Still possible. It's Roland who declares ''{{Insomnia}}'' a dead end.
*** Still possible. It's Roland who declares ''{{Insomnia}}'' a dead end.
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[[WMG: Farson's rebellion was Gilead's version of the AmericanCivilWar.]]
Stephen King states in his forward to ''The Gunslinger'' that the books were originally conceived as ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly''. The latter took place during the Civil War; although it wasn't the focus, it was an omnipresent force shaping the characters' actions - much as the Fall of Gilead was treated in the first volume.
Yes, I know [[FanonDiscontinuity I'm ignoring the comics]].
Stephen King states in his forward to ''The Gunslinger'' that the books were originally conceived as ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly''. The latter took place during the Civil War; although it wasn't the focus, it was an omnipresent force shaping the characters' actions - much as the Fall of Gilead was treated in the first volume.
Yes, I know [[FanonDiscontinuity I'm ignoring the comics]].
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* The "once you travel to a certain point, you can't travel to a point before" rule only applies to the Keystone Earth and Allworld, no?
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[[WMG: The VillainDecay the Crimson King suffered is [[EvilIsNotAToy a result of toying with the Dark Tower.]] ]]
The Dark Tower is the support of TheMultiverse itself, and all reality was breaking around it as the Crimson King tore at it. What he didn't count on was that being at the epicentre of this decay, he'd be the most vulnerable. The supposed retcon that [[TheDevilIsALoser he'd always been incompetent]] is because ''time'' as well as space is decaying, resulting in his own history being botched and decaying.
The Dark Tower is the support of TheMultiverse itself, and all reality was breaking around it as the Crimson King tore at it. What he didn't count on was that being at the epicentre of this decay, he'd be the most vulnerable. The supposed retcon that [[TheDevilIsALoser he'd always been incompetent]] is because ''time'' as well as space is decaying, resulting in his own history being botched and decaying.
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* [[TheDeadZone Johnny Smith]] ([[PsychicPowers Clairvoyance, psychometry]])
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* [[TheDeadZone [[Literature/TheDeadZone Johnny Smith]] ([[PsychicPowers Clairvoyance, psychometry]])
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[[WMG: The Beast spoken about in TheDarkTower is actually the creature from ''It''.]]
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[[WMG: The Beast spoken about in TheDarkTower Franchise/TheDarkTower is actually the creature from ''It''.]]
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[[WMG:''It'' is the Crimson Queen AKA the Crimson King's mother from The Long Road Home comic.]]
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* [[TheGreenMile John Coffey]] (HealingHands)
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* [[{{Firestarter}} Charlie McGee]] ([[PlayingWithFire Pyrokinesis]])
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* I don't think Arrowhead project was natural portal, if you think natural portal as door on building what project Arrowhead did is knock a hole through the wall. On that note if the film version and the novella are separate levels of the tower, project arrowhead happened in at least two different universes.
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* I don't think Arrowhead project was a natural portal, if you think of a natural portal as a door on building what project Arrowhead did is knock like knocking a hole through the wall. On that note if the film version and the novella are separate levels of the tower, project arrowhead happened in at least two different universes.
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*I don't think Arrowhead project was natural portal, if you think natural portal as door on building what project Arrowhead did is knock a hole through the wall. On that note if the film version and the novella are separate levels of the tower, project arrowhead happened in at least two different universes.
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* In addition to co-op being in a different borough of New York, Eddies' brother was drafted into the Vietnam War in 1978. That said I don't think that was King intent when he was writing the drawing of the three & wastelands. But later he decide to work those error into the story.
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[[WMG: The room at the top of the tower [[spoiler: is empty]] because of Jack's actions in ''The Talisman'']]
Jack's actions in the Black Hotel, or "The Other Alhambra" have him climbing to the top of a large black structure and retrieving something said to be at the "nexus of all worlds". There's even an image of the room in the tower when Jake reaches the top of the Black Hotel. So the reason [[spoiler: everything keeps looping and Roland has to repeat his doomed quest over and over again]] is because Jack unwittingly created [[spoiler: the loop]] Roland [[spoiler: keeps repeating]] by removing the lynchpin. This would also explain the decay of the Beams that the Breakers are trying to speed up. While King didn't initially intend for the books to be part of the same universe, it is clear that one does now coexist with the other, and so while Jack may have [[spoiler: saved all the worlds]], he also made things more difficult in the long run.
Jack's actions in the Black Hotel, or "The Other Alhambra" have him climbing to the top of a large black structure and retrieving something said to be at the "nexus of all worlds". There's even an image of the room in the tower when Jake reaches the top of the Black Hotel. So the reason [[spoiler: everything keeps looping and Roland has to repeat his doomed quest over and over again]] is because Jack unwittingly created [[spoiler: the loop]] Roland [[spoiler: keeps repeating]] by removing the lynchpin. This would also explain the decay of the Beams that the Breakers are trying to speed up. While King didn't initially intend for the books to be part of the same universe, it is clear that one does now coexist with the other, and so while Jack may have [[spoiler: saved all the worlds]], he also made things more difficult in the long run.
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[[WMG: The room at the top of the tower [[spoiler: is empty]] the way it is because of Jack's actions in ''The Talisman'']]
Jack's actions in the Black Hotel, or "The Other Alhambra" have him climbing to the top of a large black structure and retrieving something said to be at the "nexus of all worlds". There's even an image of the room in the tower when Jake reaches the top of the Black Hotel. A phrase repeated in the latter half of the series is "The room at the top of the tower is empty." So the reason [[spoiler: everything keeps looping and Roland has to repeat his doomed quest over and over again]] is because Jack unwittingly created [[spoiler: the loop]] Roland [[spoiler: keeps repeating]] by removing the lynchpin. This would also explain the decay of the Beams that the Breakers are trying to speed up. While King didn't initially intend for the books to be part of the same universe, it is clear that one does now coexist with the other, and so while Jack may have [[spoiler: saved all the worlds]], he also made things more difficult in the long run.
Jack's actions in the Black Hotel, or "The Other Alhambra" have him climbing to the top of a large black structure and retrieving something said to be at the "nexus of all worlds". There's even an image of the room in the tower when Jake reaches the top of the Black Hotel. A phrase repeated in the latter half of the series is "The room at the top of the tower is empty." So the reason [[spoiler: everything keeps looping and Roland has to repeat his doomed quest over and over again]] is because Jack unwittingly created [[spoiler: the loop]] Roland [[spoiler: keeps repeating]] by removing the lynchpin. This would also explain the decay of the Beams that the Breakers are trying to speed up. While King didn't initially intend for the books to be part of the same universe, it is clear that one does now coexist with the other, and so while Jack may have [[spoiler: saved all the worlds]], he also made things more difficult in the long run.
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[[WMG: The room at the top of the tower [[spoiler: is empty]] because of Jack's actions in ''The Talisman'']]
Jack's actions in the Black Hotel, or "The Other Alhambra" have him climbing to the top of a large black structure and retrieving something said to be at the "nexus of all worlds". There's even an image of the room in the tower when Jake reaches the top of the Black Hotel. So the reason [[spoiler: everything keeps looping and Roland has to repeat his doomed quest over and over again]] is because Jack unwittingly created [[spoiler: the loop]] Roland [[spoiler: keeps repeating]] by removing the lynchpin. This would also explain the decay of the Beams that the Breakers are trying to speed up. While King didn't initially intend for the books to be part of the same universe, it is clear that one does now coexist with the other, and so while Jack may have [[spoiler: saved all the worlds]], he also made things more difficult in the long run.
Jack's actions in the Black Hotel, or "The Other Alhambra" have him climbing to the top of a large black structure and retrieving something said to be at the "nexus of all worlds". There's even an image of the room in the tower when Jake reaches the top of the Black Hotel. So the reason [[spoiler: everything keeps looping and Roland has to repeat his doomed quest over and over again]] is because Jack unwittingly created [[spoiler: the loop]] Roland [[spoiler: keeps repeating]] by removing the lynchpin. This would also explain the decay of the Beams that the Breakers are trying to speed up. While King didn't initially intend for the books to be part of the same universe, it is clear that one does now coexist with the other, and so while Jack may have [[spoiler: saved all the worlds]], he also made things more difficult in the long run.
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[[WMG: The short story ''The Jaunt'' happened during the time of the [[NeglectfulPrecursors Great Old Ones.]]]]
Because so many of King's stories are connected to the Tower Universe and All-World. It's outright stated that the Old Ones abused the Tower's power and combined it with their technology to create all sorts of things, teleportation among them. The Jaunt devices could just be the precursors of the doors they created into other worlds.
Because so many of King's stories are connected to the Tower Universe and All-World. It's outright stated that the Old Ones abused the Tower's power and combined it with their technology to create all sorts of things, teleportation among them. The Jaunt devices could just be the precursors of the doors they created into other worlds.
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** Except they aren't multiple Flaggs in the adaptations...a few things got changed, but it's the same Flagg really.
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The Waste Lands features the ZZ Top song "Velcro Fly," which contains the line[[spoiler: "When you reach the end, do it over again,"]] which serves as an extremely subtle and prescient foreshadowing.
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The Waste Lands features the ZZ Top song "Velcro Fly," which contains the line[[spoiler: "When you reach the end, do it over again,"]] which serves serving as an extremely subtle and prescient foreshadowing.
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[[WMG: Stephen King has known what the ending to Book 7 would be since 1991.]]
The Waste Lands features the ZZ Top song "Velcro Fly," which contains the line[[spoiler: "When you reach the end, do it over again,"]] which serves as an extremely subtle and prescient foreshadowing.
The Waste Lands features the ZZ Top song "Velcro Fly," which contains the line[[spoiler: "When you reach the end, do it over again,"]] which serves as an extremely subtle and prescient foreshadowing.
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* [[TheShining Danny Torrance]] ([[PsychicPowers Mind-Reading]])
* [[TheShining Dick Hallorann]] ([[PsychicPowers Clairvoyance]])
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The Man in Black said that to speak of the Beast is to damn one's soul; it sounds like what happens when one looks into the ''deadlights''. Also, what else but a CosmicHorror could cause Randall Flagg to show fear?
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The Man in Black said that to speak of the Beast is to damn one's soul; it sounds like what happens when one looks into the ''deadlights''. Also, what else but a CosmicHorror an eldritch abomination could cause Randall Flagg to show fear?
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* And "himself" is, quite literally, what he finds inside the tower. (Apparently, it's what everyone who goes into the Tower finds; the Crimson King also saw the beginning of its own life before it ended up getting trapped.)
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[[WMG: Roland IS The Dark Tower]]
The Dark Tower has three incarnations instead of two, the Tower itself, the Rose and Roland himself! Roland is the human incarnation of the Tower, so what he's really searching for is himself (deep huh?)
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[[WMG: Flagg knows about the ending.]]
[[spoiler: It's why his interactions with Roland are so irritated. He's aware that if he fails to kill Roland, he'll just get resurrected in the end with him.]]
[[spoiler: It's why his interactions with Roland are so irritated. He's aware that if he fails to kill Roland, he'll just get resurrected in the end with him.]]
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*Morded ponders what it would be like to be accepted, but comes to the conclusion that even if he was he would never yield to having Roland as his Dihn/king, so even if they did accept him he would want to be in charge of everyone.