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** The Zao Desert was supposedly much more fertile than it is now. What are Dwarf Fortress dwarves really good at? Why, [[{{LetsPlay/Boatmurdered}} tuning otherwise habitable places into inhospitable wastelands]].

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** The Zao Desert was supposedly much more fertile than it is now. What are Dwarf Fortress dwarves really good at? Why, [[{{LetsPlay/Boatmurdered}} [[Blog/{{Boatmurdered}} tuning otherwise habitable places into inhospitable wastelands]].
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Replicas don't just exist as copies of the original. They are remnants or aspects of the original's personality made manifest in physical form. They may not have the original's memories, but they will exhibit personality traits from the original. It isn't until they fully mature personality or appearance do those traits manifest.
* For example, Luke may represent Asch's better qualities, such as optimism and honesty. Now that Asch is bitter and mistrustful of others, he might just see Luke as a representation of what he could have been like had Van not done what he did.

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Replicas don't just exist as copies of the original. They are remnants or aspects of the original's personality made manifest in physical form. They may not have the original's memories, but they will exhibit personality traits from the original. It isn't until they fully mature in personality or and appearance do those traits manifest.
* For example, Luke may represent Asch's deeply buried better qualities, such as optimism and honesty. Now that Asch is bitter and mistrustful of others, he might just see Luke as a representation of what he could have been like had Van not done what he did.
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** Supporting the hypothesis that Rem is a more energetic star than our own is that Auldrant is stated to be the system's second planet. A planet orbiting a G-type star at 1.87 AU would be expected to have at least two or three planets with inferior orbits, but increasing a star's energy output also inhibits the accretion of planets, so an F-type star would explain why Auldrant has only one inferior planet.

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** Supporting the hypothesis that Rem is a more energetic star than our own is that Auldrant is stated to be the system's second planet. A planet orbiting a G-type star at 1.87 AU would be expected to have at least two or three planets with inferior orbits, but increasing a star's energy output also inhibits the accretion of planets, so an F-type star would explain why Auldrant has only one inferior planet.planet.

[[WMG: Humanoid Replica are more than just copies]]
Replicas don't just exist as copies of the original. They are remnants or aspects of the original's personality made manifest in physical form. They may not have the original's memories, but they will exhibit personality traits from the original. It isn't until they fully mature personality or appearance do those traits manifest.
* For example, Luke may represent Asch's better qualities, such as optimism and honesty. Now that Asch is bitter and mistrustful of others, he might just see Luke as a representation of what he could have been like had Van not done what he did.
* Another example can be seen in the original Ion's three replicas present in the main story before his death.
** The Ion in the main story is the manifestation of the public façade the original Ion put on to hide his disdain for the world and its people. However, the current Ion's [[NiceGuy personality is genuine]] by comparison.
** Sync represents the [[{{Jerkass}} true personality]] of the original Ion, as he shares the same hatred for the world that abandoned them both. The first Score reading the original Ion read prophesied that he would die at the age of twelve, while Sync was deemed a failure and was thrown out and left to rot until Van found him.
** Florian, as dictated by [[MeaningfulName his name]], represents the innocence the original Ion lost once he learned he would die in the future.
* Gelda Nebilim's first replica, though deemed a failure, seems to embody traits from Gelda's past, like her lack of moral restraint and cruelty.
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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Unit[[/note]]). By calculating and measuring the amount of time it would take Auldrant to complete one orbit, its determined distance would be about 1.87 AU, which would put Auldrant in between the orbit of Mars and the Asteroid Belt. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.

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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Unit[[/note]]). By calculating and measuring the amount of time it would take Auldrant to complete one orbit, its determined distance would be about 1.87 AU, which would put Auldrant in between the orbit of Mars and the Asteroid Belt. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.year.
** Supporting the hypothesis that Rem is a more energetic star than our own is that Auldrant is stated to be the system's second planet. A planet orbiting a G-type star at 1.87 AU would be expected to have at least two or three planets with inferior orbits, but increasing a star's energy output also inhibits the accretion of planets, so an F-type star would explain why Auldrant has only one inferior planet.
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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Unit[[/note]]). By calculating and measuring the amount of time it would take for Auldrant to complete one orbit, its determined distance would be about 1.87 AU, which would put Auldrant in between the orbit of Mars and the Asteroid Belt. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.

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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Unit[[/note]]). By calculating and measuring the amount of time it would take for Auldrant to complete one orbit, its determined distance would be about 1.87 AU, which would put Auldrant in between the orbit of Mars and the Asteroid Belt. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.
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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Unit[[/note]]). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, which is farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.

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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Unit[[/note]]). This By calculating and measuring the amount of time it would actually put take for Auldrant at a to complete one orbit, its determined distance of would be about 1.87 AU, which is farther out than even Mars.would put Auldrant in between the orbit of Mars and the Asteroid Belt. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.
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** The Zao Desert was supposedly much more fertile than it is now. What are Dwarf Fortress dwarves really good at? Why, [[{{Boatmurdered}} tuning otherwise habitable places into inhospitable wastelands]].

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** The Zao Desert was supposedly much more fertile than it is now. What are Dwarf Fortress dwarves really good at? Why, [[{{Boatmurdered}} [[{{LetsPlay/Boatmurdered}} tuning otherwise habitable places into inhospitable wastelands]].
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** Considering their longer years and most likely extended/slowed down aging (as noted in another WMG below) compared to our world, not unlikely they "evolve" to the point they are elves.
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This explains why Mieu was so pleased when Luke gave him the "name" Thing. He mentions in two skits ("Mieu's Name" and "Luke Overdoing Things") that he's pleased to have the name, and considers it a good name. Mieu is, aafter all, the word they say to communicate.

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This explains why Mieu was so pleased when Luke gave him the "name" Thing. He mentions in two skits ("Mieu's Name" and "Luke Overdoing Things") that he's pleased to have the name, and considers it a good name. Mieu is, aafter after all, the word they say to communicate.
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Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.
* Actually, they have both; there are several times when fonons and atoms are mentioned in the same breath. Not that this changes the possibility of fonic bombs.

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Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade Anise makes a throwaway comment about a fonic fonon bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic fonon bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic atom bomb.
* Actually, they have both; there are several times when fonons and atoms are mentioned in the same breath. Not that this changes the possibility of fonic fonon bombs.
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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Units[[/note]]). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.

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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it the planet would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Units[[/note]]).Unit[[/note]]). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, which is farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to remain habitable and still keep its long year.
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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Units[[/note]]). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. In order for Auldrant to be in the habitable zone and still have its long year, then the star it orbits around would have to be a hotter F-type star than our Sun.

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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth is from our Sun (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU[[note]]Astronomical Units[[/note]]). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. In order If the star is a hotter and more luminous F-type instead (making its habitable zone more spread out at a farther distance), then it's entirely possible for Auldrant to be in the remain habitable zone and still have keep its long year, then the star it orbits around would have to be a hotter F-type star than our Sun.year.
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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it would have to be much farther out than Earth (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. In order for Auldrant to be in the habitable zone and still have its long year, then the star it orbits around would have to be a hotter F-type star than our Sun.

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Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However However, there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it would have to be much farther out from its star than Earth (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU).AU[[note]]Astronomical Units[[/note]]). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. In order for Auldrant to be in the habitable zone and still have its long year, then the star it orbits around would have to be a hotter F-type star than our Sun.
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* Actually, they have both; there are several times when fonons and atoms are mentioned in the same breath. Not that this changes the possibility of fonic bombs.

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* Actually, they have both; there are several times when fonons and atoms are mentioned in the same breath. Not that this changes the possibility of fonic bombs.bombs.

[[WMG: The science behind Auldrant's 765-day year.]]
Auldrant is a pretty interesting world in that it's probably the only non-science fiction planet to have actual details about its orbital period. We know from the information in Daath's library that a year on Auldrant is 765 days, which is twice as long than a year on Earth (365 days). However there is a problem with this. In order for Auldrant's year to be that long, it would have to be much farther out than Earth (assuming Auldrant shares the same distance of 1 AU). This would actually put Auldrant at a distance of 1.87 AU, farther out than even Mars. At this distance, Auldrant would be far too cold to even sustain life, but that's assuming that the star it orbits around (Rem) is a G-type star like our Sun. In order for Auldrant to be in the habitable zone and still have its long year, then the star it orbits around would have to be a hotter F-type star than our Sun.
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* Or the party might contact her off screen when they arrive, telling her where they are and they need her.
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Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.

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Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.bomb.
* Actually, they have both; there are several times when fonons and atoms are mentioned in the same breath. Not that this changes the possibility of fonic bombs.
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Jade seems to start to suggest to Dist once the Catalyst sidequest wraps up that it's possible that Luke would be the one to survive the Big Bang. While it could be chalked up to a desperate wish because he's actually friends with Luke and not Asch, but that's not how Jade works. He doesn't place value in false hopes or things that aren't possible. Jade also says that fomicry can't make isofons, way back before Akzeriuth. So therefore, it's entirely possible that the only reason Luke and Asch are perfect is isofons because Asch was (somehow) born with the exact same fonon frequency as the Seventh Fonon.

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Jade seems to start to suggest to Dist once the Catalyst sidequest wraps up that it's possible that Luke would be the one to survive the Big Bang. While it could be chalked up to a desperate wish because he's actually friends with Luke and not Asch, but that's not how Jade works. He doesn't place value in false hopes or things that aren't possible. Jade also says that fomicry can't make isofons, way back before Akzeriuth. So therefore, it's entirely possible that the only reason Luke and Asch are perfect is isofons because Asch was (somehow) born with the exact same fonon frequency as the Seventh Fonon.Fonon.

[[WMG: Auldrant has nukes.]]
Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.
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If you look at the part at Ortion Cavern and the contamination sidequest, you may recall that both Asch and Luke were doomed because of the Big Bang effect. This, combined with the deaths of the originals when Van was making all those replicas, suggests that something is taken from the originals to make replicas, meaning that both original and replica are somehow incomplete. Additionally, the title song, Karma, talks about the two becoming one [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm (translation here)]]. Moreover, the person in the end who returns has characteristics of both Asch and Luke. Conclusion, Luke and Asch are re-merged into one person.

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If you look at the part at Ortion Cavern and the contamination sidequest, you may recall that both Asch and Luke were doomed because of the Big Bang effect. This, combined with the deaths of the originals when Van was making all those replicas, suggests that something is taken from the originals to make replicas, meaning that both original and replica are somehow incomplete. Additionally, the title song, Karma, talks about the two becoming one [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm (translation here)]]. Moreover, the person in the end who returns has characteristics of both Asch and Luke. Conclusion, Luke and Asch are re-merged into one person.person.

[[WMG: Related to the above, the Contamination Effect works differently for Luke and Asch than anyone else.]]
Jade seems to start to suggest to Dist once the Catalyst sidequest wraps up that it's possible that Luke would be the one to survive the Big Bang. While it could be chalked up to a desperate wish because he's actually friends with Luke and not Asch, but that's not how Jade works. He doesn't place value in false hopes or things that aren't possible. Jade also says that fomicry can't make isofons, way back before Akzeriuth. So therefore, it's entirely possible that the only reason Luke and Asch are perfect is isofons because Asch was (somehow) born with the exact same fonon frequency as the Seventh Fonon.
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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/AceAttorney Kristoph]] is [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss Jade's]] Evil twin.]]

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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/AceAttorney [[Franchise/AceAttorney Kristoph]] is [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss Jade's]] Evil twin.]]
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** They probably ''were'' friends. The way Anise's parents talk about Arietta, it sounds like this is the case. It's very likely they trained to be puppeteers at the same time, and became good friends through the fact that they possessed the same amount of talent and both were probably the youngest trainees (which is what Anise's special chapter in the Manga implies; Anise was the youngest trainee). Maybe they both worked together to become just as strong as everyone else, and taught each other spells. I'd actually go so far as to say that when their friendship went sour, it was sometime after Dist modified Tokunaga for Anise. I got the impression that was unique to her as far as puppeteer work goes BECAUSE Dist was the one who modified him for her. Until then, it's safe to assume Anise used Tokunaga the same way Arietta uses her own doll. After that, Anise became ''better'' at puppeteering than Arietta and as we learn in the skit "A Lady's Secret", Anise keeps how it works a secret (that, or because Dist did it, she doesn't actually know). If she wasn't able to explain it, that would probably upset Arietta, but ''not'' enough to wreck their friendship. I'd say Anise and Arietta began to drift apart after Arietta was put on as Ion's guardian but remained friends despite this, and the "traitor" thing was Arietta being removed as Ion's Fon Master Guard and being replaced with Anise who I think thought she'd be working ''with'' Arietta, not replacing her, since I believe she didn't know exactly when Arietta was pulled out as a Fon Master Guard (I believe she says at one point in a conversation with either Ion or Largo something like "Hey, two years ago was when I was made a Fon Master Guard!" and the topic of conversation was Arietta's removal as a Guard because of Ion). Anise is a traitor because she replaced Arietta, then proceeded to fall in love with the same person as Arietta herself loved, and again surpassed Arietta.

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** * They probably ''were'' friends. The way Anise's parents talk about Arietta, it sounds like this is the case. It's very likely they trained to be puppeteers at the same time, and became good friends through the fact that they possessed the same amount of talent and both were probably the youngest trainees (which is what Anise's special chapter in the Manga implies; Anise was the youngest trainee). Maybe they both worked together to become just as strong as everyone else, and taught each other spells. I'd actually go so far as to say that when their friendship went sour, it was sometime after Dist modified Tokunaga for Anise. I got the impression that was unique to her as far as puppeteer work goes BECAUSE Dist was the one who modified him for her. Until then, it's safe to assume Anise used Tokunaga the same way Arietta uses her own doll. After that, Anise became ''better'' at puppeteering than Arietta and as we learn in the skit "A Lady's Secret", Anise keeps how it works a secret (that, or because Dist did it, she doesn't actually know). If she wasn't able to explain it, that would probably upset Arietta, but ''not'' enough to wreck their friendship. I'd say Anise and Arietta began to drift apart after Arietta was put on as Ion's guardian but remained friends despite this, and the "traitor" thing was Arietta being removed as Ion's Fon Master Guard and being replaced with Anise who I think thought she'd be working ''with'' Arietta, not replacing her, since I believe she didn't know exactly when Arietta was pulled out as a Fon Master Guard (I believe she says at one point in a conversation with either Ion or Largo something like "Hey, two years ago was when I was made a Fon Master Guard!" and the topic of conversation was Arietta's removal as a Guard because of Ion). Anise is a traitor because she replaced Arietta, then proceeded to fall in love with the same person as Arietta herself loved, and again surpassed Arietta.
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** They probably ''were'' friends. The way Anise's parents talk about Arietta, it sounds like this is the case. It's very likely they trained to be puppeteers at the same time, and became good friends through the fact that they possessed the same amount of talent and both were probably the youngest trainees (which is what Anise's special chapter in the Manga implies; Anise was the youngest trainee). Maybe they both worked together to become just as strong as everyone else, and taught each other spells. I'd actually go so far as to say that when their friendship went sour, it was sometime after Dist modified Tokunaga for Anise. I got the impression that was unique to her as far as puppeteer work goes BECAUSE Dist was the one who modified him for her. Until then, it's safe to assume Anise used Tokunaga the same way Arietta uses her own doll. After that, Anise became ''better'' at puppeteering than Arietta and as we learn in the skit "A Lady's Secret", Anise keeps how it works a secret (that, or because Dist did it, she doesn't actually know). If she wasn't able to explain it, that would probably upset Arietta, but ''not'' enough to wreck their friendship. I'd say Anise and Arietta began to drift apart after Arietta was put on as Ion's guardian but remained friends despite this, and the "traitor" thing was Arietta being removed as Ion's Fon Master Guard and being replaced with Anise who I think thought she'd be working ''with'' Arietta, not replacing her, since I believe she didn't know exactly when Arietta was pulled out as a Fon Master Guard (I believe she says at one point in a conversation with either Ion or Largo something like "Hey, two years ago was when I was made a Fon Master Guard!" and the topic of conversation was Arietta's removal as a Guard because of Ion). Anise is a traitor because she replaced Arietta, then proceeded to fall in love with the same person as Arietta herself loved, and again surpassed Arietta.
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If you look at a book in the Daath library, you can read that one year on Auldrant is approximatively twice as long as a year on Earth. However, characters don't seem to be twice as old as their given age would be.

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If you look at a book in the Daath library, you can read that one year on Auldrant is approximatively twice as long as a year on Earth. However, characters don't seem to be twice as old as their given age would be.be.

[[WMG: In the ending, Asch and Luke are re-merged into one person]]

If you look at the part at Ortion Cavern and the contamination sidequest, you may recall that both Asch and Luke were doomed because of the Big Bang effect. This, combined with the deaths of the originals when Van was making all those replicas, suggests that something is taken from the originals to make replicas, meaning that both original and replica are somehow incomplete. Additionally, the title song, Karma, talks about the two becoming one [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm (translation here)]]. Moreover, the person in the end who returns has characteristics of both Asch and Luke. Conclusion, Luke and Asch are re-merged into one person.
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** It's easy to justify the age difference: their parents had each of them and gave Van that NameToRunAwayFromReallyFast [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because The Score Said To]]. If ''Van'' was allowed to read the seventh fonstone as a child, whichever one of his parents was descended from Yulia certainly did, meaning they must have been aware that Van was going to destroy Hod. That just adds another level of hell to Van's already awful childhood...

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** It's easy to justify the age difference: their parents had each of them and gave Van that NameToRunAwayFromReallyFast [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Name to Run Away From Really Fast]] [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because The Score Said To]]. If ''Van'' was allowed to read the seventh fonstone as a child, whichever one of his parents was descended from Yulia certainly did, meaning they must have been aware that Van was going to destroy Hod. That just adds another level of hell to Van's already awful childhood...
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*** Actually, the destruction of Hod was on the Sixth Fonstone, which ends in ND2018. Hod was destroyed in ND2002.

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