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* '''Eleven''': He was a part of Illuminati's G-Project experiment, and was tossed aside by Urien being deemed a failure. You think he'd wouldn't feel resentment towards Urien for this? C'mon, that's some good story potential right there!
* '''Maggio''': He's looking for his older sister Aprile, who has been turned into one of Bison's Dolls, so he has a good motivation to participate in the game's events, and his design looks a bit to unique to simply be a detail only mentioned on the Capcom Fighters Network. Not to mention a [[KillerYoYo yo-yo fighter]] would be pretty unique for ''Street Fighter''.
* '''Maggio''': He's looking for his older sister Aprile, who has been turned into one of Bison's Dolls, so he has a good motivation to participate in the game's events, and his design looks a bit to unique to simply be a detail only mentioned on the Capcom Fighters Network. Not to mention a [[KillerYoYo yo-yo fighter]] would be pretty unique for ''Street Fighter''.
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* '''Eagle''': He hasn't made a single appearance since he made a major comeback in ''VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium'' and then popped up in the portable versions of ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Street Fighter Alpha 3]]'', plus it would be interesting to see how he would interact with Birdie and Zangief.
* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
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* '''Eagle''': He hasn't made a single appearance since he made a major comeback in ''VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium'' and then popped up in the portable versions of ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Street Fighter Alpha 3]]'', plus it would be interesting to see how he would interact with Birdie and Zangief.
* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
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* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
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* '''Eagle''': He hasn't made a single appearance since he made a major comeback in ''VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium'' and then popped up in the portable versions of ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Street Fighter Alpha 3]]'', plus it would be interesting to see how he would interact with Birdie and Zangief.
* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
* '''Hunter''': Just for the sake of having [[UnexpectedCharacter another surprise]] ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' character, this ''Final Fight 3'' enemy could utilize multiple sports into his attacks, such as soccer, basketball, Frisbee throwing, baseball, American fooball, golf, etc. His theme could be a remix of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYlCrP4t5k&t=164s Law and Disorder]].
* '''The other two Neo Shadaloo members''': Falke has already been confirmed to be in the game, so it's pretty likely that the other two will make an appearance in the future. The gorilla in particular would be highly interesting being the first animal to be playable in a ''Street Fighter'' game, even if it has the potential of leading to mass fan outcry of [[Memes/{{Transformers}} "STRET FITER NOT MUNKEY!"]]
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** However, all that seems to be completely jossed, as Sakura comes back in SFV without the tan, and as a part of the Season 3 roster in Arcade Edition.
** As of Arcade Edition and as part of the Season 3 character pass, Sagat makes his eventual return in SFV. Though he's saved for last.
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** As of Arcade Edition, 7 DLC characters are new to SFV, while the other 11 are returning legacy characters.
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*As of Arcade Edition, this may not be probably the case, as there are different "routes/ladders" depending on the various SF titles chosen, if anything, he'll be on the SFV route, but probably not on the explained above, however, consider this possibly jossed as Shin Akuma takes that idea with the permanent V-Trigger state.
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* As of Arcade Edition, consider Shin Akuma to be this.
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* As of Arcade Edition, that still hasn't be the case, other than PC modding.
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* As of Arcade Edition, consider this to be completely jossed, as its left that way due to possible ESPN and Capcom Cup mandates. PC modding restores it, though however there's nothing like this on the PS4 version.
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** However, as of Arcade Edition, Akuma is exactly this, as Shin Akuma (but not what you expect from the above). The portions of the above are jossed for Bison/F.A.N.G./Necalli.
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* As of Arcade Edition, consider this possibly jossed. Shin Akuma makes his return.
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* To this troper however...no, not really.
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The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[http://i.imgur.com/UdAMQ96.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin followed by Ed Ed, Abigail and then Abigail.Menat. Possible guesses for all of them are:
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The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[http://i.imgur.com/UdAMQ96.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin followed by Ed.Ed and then Abigail. Possible guesses for all of them are:
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The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[http://i.imgur.com/UdAMQ96.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin. Possible guesses for all of them are:
** Gen's Disciple-Would fit with Gen getting killed by Akuma in the latter's story mode.
** Gen's Disciple-Would fit with Gen getting killed by Akuma in the latter's story mode.
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The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[http://i.imgur.com/UdAMQ96.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin.Helen/Kolin followed by Ed. Possible guesses for all of them are:
** Gen's Disciple-Would fit with Gen getting killed by Akuma in the latter's storymode.mode.
** [[Videogame/{{Tekken}} Kazumi Mishima]] presumably to explain how she saved Akuma.
** Gen's Disciple-Would fit with Gen getting killed by Akuma in the latter's story
** [[Videogame/{{Tekken}} Kazumi Mishima]] presumably to explain how she saved Akuma.
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The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0LeRkTVEAALQVj.[[http://i.imgur.com/UdAMQ96.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin. Possible guesses for all of them are:
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* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in ''SFII'' and after the events of ''SFIV'', Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly...
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* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in ''SFII'' and after the events of ''SFIV'', Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly...spectacularly...
[[WMG:Five Season 2 Characters]]
{{Word of God}} says the five non-Akuma DLC characters will be "new to the SF universe." This is an interesting choice of words considering that it can be interpreted as:
A. Being a brand new character like Rashid, Laura, etc.
B. Be from a Capcom franchise outside of SF like Final Fight, Rival Schools, etc.
C. Being a returning non-playable character who is now playable (possibly for Helen/Kolin).
The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0LeRkTVEAALQVj.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin. Possible guesses for all of them are:
** Gen's Disciple-Would fit with Gen getting killed by Akuma in the latter's story mode.
[[WMG:Five Season 2 Characters]]
{{Word of God}} says the five non-Akuma DLC characters will be "new to the SF universe." This is an interesting choice of words considering that it can be interpreted as:
A. Being a brand new character like Rashid, Laura, etc.
B. Be from a Capcom franchise outside of SF like Final Fight, Rival Schools, etc.
C. Being a returning non-playable character who is now playable (possibly for Helen/Kolin).
The Five's silhouettes can be seen [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0LeRkTVEAALQVj.jpg here]]. Already the upper left one has been claimed to be Helen/Kolin. Possible guesses for all of them are:
** Gen's Disciple-Would fit with Gen getting killed by Akuma in the latter's story mode.
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** Alex has a friendly tag team match with Laura against Zangief and R. Mike, until they are interrupted by a blackout caused by Shadaloo. Alex later meets Dhalsim who is looking for a chess piece that Alex had in his possession.
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** Alex has a friendly tag team match with Laura against Zangief and R. Mike, Mika, until they are interrupted by a blackout caused by Shadaloo. Alex later meets Dhalsim who is looking for a chess piece that Alex had in his possession.
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** Balrog is the fourth King of Shadaloo and appears most of the time Shadaloo is involved in anything, [[spoiler:although he may be ready to betray them to the Illuminati.]]
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** Balrog is the fourth King of Shadaloo and appears most of the time Shadaloo is involved in anything, [[spoiler:although he may be ready to betray them to the Illuminati.]]Illuminati]].
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Viper disappears during the events of V and Rashid goes out to find her. Before she vanished, C. Viper warns Rashid not to pursue Shadaloo because it's dangerous. It would also [[PapaBear explain why they are so close in social media]]: he's keeping close tabs on Lauren and Viper. His presence and watchful eye from afar also explain why Lauren is basically living a good life financially, if Viper's arcade ending from StreetFighterIV is any indication. The only reason they aren't married or in a relationship is due to a combination of MarriedToTheJob and DangerousWorkplace.
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Viper disappears during the events of V ''V'' and Rashid goes out to find her. Before she vanished, C. Viper warns Rashid not to pursue Shadaloo because it's dangerous. It would also [[PapaBear explain why they are so close in social media]]: he's keeping close tabs on Lauren and Viper. His presence and watchful eye from afar also explain why Lauren is basically living a good life financially, if Viper's arcade ending from StreetFighterIV ''Street Fighter IV'' is any indication. The only reason they aren't married or in a relationship is due to a combination of MarriedToTheJob and DangerousWorkplace.
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* Ryu is no stranger to crossing dimensions if his guest appearance in VideoGame/AsurasWrath is any indication. Assuming that that particular encounter is canon, it would have taken place during or after ''Street Fighter IV'' as Ryu and Evil Ryu appear in their ''Street Fighter IV'' incarnations. After Ryu is knocked back into his own dimension by Akuma, Ryu goes back into training after succumbing to the Satsui no Hadou in the fight against Asura which sets up his appearance in ''Street Fighter V'', where he is training to suppress the Satsui no Hadou. Gouken then instructs Ryu to cross into another dimension so that he can learn to fight without relying on the Satsui no Hadou, with that other dimension being the world of ''Smash Bros.'' Lo and behold, not only is Ryu's appearance in ''Smash Bros.'' lifted from his model from ''Street Fighter V'', Evil Ryu is nowhere to be seen in ''Smash Bros.''
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* Ryu is no stranger to crossing dimensions if his guest appearance in VideoGame/AsurasWrath ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'' is any indication. Assuming that that particular encounter is canon, it would have taken place during or after ''Street Fighter IV'' as Ryu and Evil Ryu appear in their ''Street Fighter IV'' incarnations. After Ryu is knocked back into his own dimension by Akuma, Ryu goes back into training after succumbing to the Satsui no Hadou in the fight against Asura which sets up his appearance in ''Street Fighter V'', where he is training to suppress the Satsui no Hadou. Gouken then instructs Ryu to cross into another dimension so that he can learn to fight without relying on the Satsui no Hadou, with that other dimension being the world of ''Smash Bros.'' Lo and behold, not only is Ryu's appearance in ''Smash Bros.'' lifted from his model from ''Street Fighter V'', Evil Ryu is nowhere to be seen in ''Smash Bros.''
** FYI, the Lost Episodes of ''Asura's Wrath'' are, according to WordOfGod, [[CanonDiscontinuity non-canon]]. (RuleOfCool and RuleOfFun were almost certainly in play.) That doesn't detract from the rest of the theory since Ryu still struggles with the Satsui no Hadou in the actual story of ''V''.
** FYI, the Lost Episodes of ''Asura's Wrath'' are, according to WordOfGod, [[CanonDiscontinuity non-canon]]. (RuleOfCool and RuleOfFun were almost certainly in play.) That doesn't detract from the rest of the theory since Ryu still struggles with the Satsui no Hadou in the actual story of ''V''.
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According to [[http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130265.html his official SFV bio]], conquering the world is NOT the purpose of doing acts like launching the Black Moon. You can ask what Bison would need such power for, if not world domination.
SFV has the Illuminati carry out a scheme to end Shadaloo, with Bison's death at Charlie's hands written in prophecy. And while Charlie fails to slay Bison, Bison dies at Ryu's hands with Shadaloo falling.
SFV establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.
* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — plotting against each other.
* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in SFII and after the events of SFIV, Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly.......
SFV has the Illuminati carry out a scheme to end Shadaloo, with Bison's death at Charlie's hands written in prophecy. And while Charlie fails to slay Bison, Bison dies at Ryu's hands with Shadaloo falling.
SFV establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.
* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — plotting against each other.
* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in SFII and after the events of SFIV, Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly.......
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According to [[http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130265.html his official SFV bio]], bio,]] conquering the world is NOT the purpose of doing acts like launching the Black Moon. You can ask what Bison would need such power for, if not world domination.
SFV ''SFV'' has the Illuminati carry out a scheme to end Shadaloo, with Bison's death at Charlie's hands written in prophecy. And while Charlie fails to slay Bison, Bison dies at Ryu's hands with Shadaloo falling.
SFV ''SFV'' establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.
* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — [[EvilVsEvil plotting against eachother.
other]].
* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma inSFII ''SFII'' and after the events of SFIV, ''SFIV'', Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly.......spectacularly...
* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — [[EvilVsEvil plotting against each
* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in
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In the story, Ryu is briefly PutOnABus because he is tasked by Gouken to undergo "special training" so he can control the Satsui no Hadou. Where does Ryu go? He crosses dimensions into the world of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''
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In the story, Ryu is briefly PutOnABus because he is tasked by Gouken to undergo "special training" so he can control the Satsui no Hadou. Where does Ryu go? He crosses dimensions into the world of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''
''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' Just some food for thought:
* Ryu is no stranger to crossing dimensions if his guest appearance in VideoGame/AsurasWrath is any indication. Assuming that that particular encounter is canon, it would have taken place during or after ''Street Fighter IV'' as Ryu and Evil Ryu appear in their ''Street Fighter IV'' incarnations. After Ryu is knocked back into his own dimension by Akuma, Ryu goes back into training after succumbing to the Satsui no Hadou in the fight against Asura which sets up his appearance in ''Street Fighter V'', where he is training to suppress the Satsui no Hadou. Gouken then instructs Ryu to cross into another dimension so that he can learn to fight without relying on the Satsui no Hadou, with that other dimension being the world of ''Smash Bros.'' Lo and behold, not only is Ryu's appearance in ''Smash Bros.'' lifted from his model from ''Street Fighter V'', Evil Ryu is nowhere to be seen in ''Smash Bros.''
* Ryu is no stranger to crossing dimensions if his guest appearance in VideoGame/AsurasWrath is any indication. Assuming that that particular encounter is canon, it would have taken place during or after ''Street Fighter IV'' as Ryu and Evil Ryu appear in their ''Street Fighter IV'' incarnations. After Ryu is knocked back into his own dimension by Akuma, Ryu goes back into training after succumbing to the Satsui no Hadou in the fight against Asura which sets up his appearance in ''Street Fighter V'', where he is training to suppress the Satsui no Hadou. Gouken then instructs Ryu to cross into another dimension so that he can learn to fight without relying on the Satsui no Hadou, with that other dimension being the world of ''Smash Bros.'' Lo and behold, not only is Ryu's appearance in ''Smash Bros.'' lifted from his model from ''Street Fighter V'', Evil Ryu is nowhere to be seen in ''Smash Bros.''
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** Now outright confirmed, as the Capcom Fighters Network character profile for Rashid calls him "the protagonist of the game's story mode."
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* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — plotting against each other.
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* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — plotting against each other.other.
* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in SFII and after the events of SFIV, Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly.......
* Possible that some time between getting resurrecting after getting killed by Akuma in SFII and after the events of SFIV, Bison found out that the Illumanati actually ''exists'', initially writing it off as conspiracy theory superstition, and it was subtly manipulating his actions the whole time. Of course, being the arrogant mass murderer with a God complex that he is, Bison decides to put his usual world domination plot on hold to concentrate fully on building up resources to ultimately destroy the Illumanti, leaving him unopposed to TakeOverTheWorld for real. Of course, thanks to various factors, Bison fails spectacularly.......
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* Jossed: Charlie holds nothing against Guile in the Story Mode, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison. And Guile offered to help Charlie in that fight against Bison but he refused to bring him along.
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* Jossed: Charlie holds nothing against Guile in the Story Mode, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison. And Guile didn't abandon Charlie; he offered to help Charlie in that fight against Bison but he Nash refused to bring him along.
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SFV establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.
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SFV establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.assassin.
* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — plotting against each other.
* That may be true, but even if so he's still pure evil. This isn't either Shadaloo or the Illuminati being dark heroes all along, but two evil organizations — one the robber baron, the other the moral tyrant — plotting against each other.
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* Jossed: Charlie holds nothing against Guile in the Story Mode, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.
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* Jossed: Charlie holds nothing against Guile in the Story Mode, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.
Bison. And Guile offered to help Charlie in that fight against Bison but he refused to bring him along.
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In the story, Ryu is briefly PutOnABus because he is tasked by Gouken to undergo "special training" so he can control the Satsui no Hadou. Where does Ryu go? He crosses dimensions into the world of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''
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In the story, Ryu is briefly PutOnABus because he is tasked by Gouken to undergo "special training" so he can control the Satsui no Hadou. Where does Ryu go? He crosses dimensions into the world of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''
[[WMG: Bison is really trying to stop the Illuminati]]
According to [[http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130265.html his official SFV bio]], conquering the world is NOT the purpose of doing acts like launching the Black Moon. You can ask what Bison would need such power for, if not world domination.
SFV has the Illuminati carry out a scheme to end Shadaloo, with Bison's death at Charlie's hands written in prophecy. And while Charlie fails to slay Bison, Bison dies at Ryu's hands with Shadaloo falling.
SFV establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.
[[WMG: Bison is really trying to stop the Illuminati]]
According to [[http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130265.html his official SFV bio]], conquering the world is NOT the purpose of doing acts like launching the Black Moon. You can ask what Bison would need such power for, if not world domination.
SFV has the Illuminati carry out a scheme to end Shadaloo, with Bison's death at Charlie's hands written in prophecy. And while Charlie fails to slay Bison, Bison dies at Ryu's hands with Shadaloo falling.
SFV establishes that Bison's death is necessary for the Illuminati to go ahead with its plans for mankind. Now, I propose that Bison knew about the Illuminati, its leadership, and its plans. He was seeking power to crush Gill and end the Illuminati's designs on the world. The Illuminati caught wind of this and come SFV is moving against him, reviving Charlie to serve as an assassin.
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It's because Charlie has a massive grudge towards the military he was once part of, since [[CalvaryBetrayal it decided to betray him just when he had defeated M. Bison]] in. After Charlie was, um... "[[CameBackWrong fixed]]" by the Illuminati, he engaged in a quest for answers why the military betrayed him, and discovered that many of his former higher-ups were allied with Shadaloo. It would explain why he's so cold to Guile after so many years apart -- because Guile wasn't there when he was betrayed, Charlie thought his best friend/pupil had abandoned him. Guile's promotion twisted the knife even further, as Charlie now associates military personnel of higher rank with loyalty to Shadaloo -- therefore, Guile's higher rank makes him a Shadaloo agent by default.
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It's because Charlie has a massive grudge towards the military he was once part of, since [[CalvaryBetrayal [[CavalryBetrayal it decided to betray him just when he had defeated M. Bison]] in.in ''Alpha 2''. After Charlie was, um... "[[CameBackWrong fixed]]" by the Illuminati, he engaged in a quest for answers why the military betrayed him, and discovered that many of his former higher-ups were allied with Shadaloo. It would explain why he's so cold to Guile after so many years apart -- because Guile wasn't there when he was betrayed, Charlie thought his best friend/pupil had abandoned him. Guile's promotion twisted the knife even further, as Charlie now associates military personnel of higher rank with loyalty to Shadaloo -- therefore, Guile's higher rank makes him a Shadaloo agent by default.
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My guess for Top V Characters (see what I did there) in no particular order are: Nash, Bison, Karin, Chun-Li and F.A.N.G.
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My guess for Top V ''V'' Characters (see what I did there) in no particular order are: Nash, Bison, Karin, Chun-Li and F.A.N.G.
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** Guile rejoins Chun Li and Cammy to hunt down Shadaloo and M. Bison, and meets up with Charlie.
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** Guile rejoins Chun Li Chun-Li and Cammy to hunt down Shadaloo and M. Bison, and meets up with Charlie.
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* It actually stands for [[AffablyEvil Friendly]] And NiceGuy.
[[WMG: Dhalsim will die in the events of SFV and be replaced by Manesh in a future game.]]
As in [[Fridge/StreetFighter the Fridge Horror regarding Dhalsim]], Necalli might be killing off Dhalsim. Meanwhile, it is suspicious that Dhalsim's story mode is all about Manesh's training montage. So the only logical conclusion is that Manesh is being groomed by the story as Dhalsim's SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute who will be taking his place in a future game.
[[WMG: Dhalsim will die in the events of SFV and be replaced by Manesh in a future game.]]
As in [[Fridge/StreetFighter the Fridge Horror regarding Dhalsim]], Necalli might be killing off Dhalsim. Meanwhile, it is suspicious that Dhalsim's story mode is all about Manesh's training montage. So the only logical conclusion is that Manesh is being groomed by the story as Dhalsim's SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute who will be taking his place in a future game.
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[[WMG: Dhalsim will die in the events of
As in [[Fridge/StreetFighter the Fridge Horror regarding Dhalsim]], Necalli might be killing off Dhalsim. Meanwhile, it is suspicious that Dhalsim's
* Jossed, at least on the dying part. Necalli fails to devour Dhalsim during the story.
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* Jossed: His childhood friend is one of the [[spoiler: hackers kidnapped by Shadaloo to help with Operatio C.H.A.I.N.S.. She's also dead.]]
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* Jossed: His childhood friend is one of the [[spoiler: hackers [[spoiler:hackers kidnapped by Shadaloo to help with Operatio C.H.A.I.N.S.. S. She's also dead.]]
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She just happens to be the one that "finds" Charlie and helps him recuperate. Come on, She's a Plant!!!
* [[spoiler:Confirmed by the ending in the cinematic story mode. She's Kolin, Gill's secretary, in disguise.]]
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed by the ending in the
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It's because Charlie has a massive grudge towards the military he was once part of, since [[CalvaryBetrayal it decided to betray him just when he had defeated M. Bison (Street Fighter Alpha 2). After Charlie was, um... "[[CameBackWrong fixed]]" by the Illuminati, he engaged in a quest for answers why the military betrayed him, and discovered that many of his former higher-ups were allied with Shadaloo. It would explain why he's so cold to Guile after so many years apart - because Guile wasn't there when he was betrayed, Charlie thought his best friend/pupil had abandoned him. Guile's promotion twisted the knife even further, as Charlie now associates military personnel of higher rank with loyalty to Shadaloo - therefore, Guile's higher rank makes him a Shadaloo agent by default.
* Jossed: The story mode Charlie holds nothing against Guile, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.
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* '''Rose''': She's Bison's EnemyWithout as well as something of the series' [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]][=/=]BigGood, and ''IV'' had her being cryptically prophetic about Ryu's fated battle against Bison, whom she's personally failed to kill [[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha twice]] [[VideoGame/StreetFighterIV before]]. Unless Bison [[DroppedABridgeOnHim offed her behind the scenes between games]] (which seems unlikely taking Rose and Guy's ''SSFIV'' endings into account), there's no reason Rose wouldn't be involved now that her other half has resurfaced. Soul Reflect might be turned into her V-Skill (with forward or backward DI accounting for the other two versions of the special, much like how Rashid has two V-Skills), and either [[DoppelgangerAttack Soul Illusion]] or [[OrbitingParticleShield Soul Satellite]] as her V-Trigger (the latter may be a safer bet, so as to not overlap with similar moves like Genei Jin, Seiei Enbu, and Feng Shui Engine).
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* '''Rose''': She's Bison's EnemyWithout as well as something of the series' [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]][=/=]BigGood, BigGood, and ''IV'' had her being cryptically prophetic about Ryu's fated battle against Bison, whom she's personally failed to kill [[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha twice]] [[VideoGame/StreetFighterIV before]]. Unless Bison [[DroppedABridgeOnHim offed her behind the scenes between games]] (which seems unlikely taking Rose and Guy's ''SSFIV'' endings into account), there's no reason Rose wouldn't be involved now that her other half has resurfaced. Soul Reflect might be turned into her V-Skill (with forward or backward DI accounting for the other two versions of the special, much like how Rashid has two V-Skills), and either [[DoppelgangerAttack Soul Illusion]] or [[OrbitingParticleShield Soul Satellite]] as her V-Trigger (the latter may be a safer bet, so as to not overlap with similar moves like Genei Jin, Seiei Enbu, and Feng Shui Engine).
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* Jossed: The story mode Charlie holds nothing against Guile, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.
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* Jossed: The story mode Charlie holds nothing against Guile, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.Bison.
[[WMG: Ryu's "special training."]]
In the story, Ryu is briefly PutOnABus because he is tasked by Gouken to undergo "special training" so he can control the Satsui no Hadou. Where does Ryu go? He crosses dimensions into the world of VideoGame/SuperSmashBros.
[[WMG: Ryu's "special training."]]
In the story, Ryu is briefly PutOnABus because he is tasked by Gouken to undergo "special training" so he can control the Satsui no Hadou. Where does Ryu go? He crosses dimensions into the world of VideoGame/SuperSmashBros.
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**Seemingly confirmed. Rashid's gets the majority of the story battles, and his search for his friend is one of the primary plotlines of the story mode.
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* Jossed: That's not Balrog, but a new character working for the US military with Guile.
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* Jossed: That's not Balrog, but Byron Taylor, a new character working for the US military with Guile.
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* Jossed: Juri is [[spoiler: working for the Illuminati]].
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* Jossed: While we don't know their name, the story mode's ending confirms that Rashid'e friend is female.
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* Jossed: It's a female childhood friend turned hacker and game designer who was kidnapped by Shadaloo.
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* Jossed: The ninjas are all from the Kanzuki clan's personal ninja order.
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* Jossed: That's not Balrog, but a new character working for the US military with Guile.
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* Confirmed: Balrog sells his services to the Urien as in his story mode.
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* Jossed.
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* Jossed: His childhood friend is one of the [[spoiler: hackers kidnapped by Shadaloo to help with Operatio C.H.A.I.N.S.. She's also dead.]]
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It's because Charlie has a massive grudge towards the military he was once part of, since [[CalvaryBetrayal it decided to betray him just when he had defeated M. Bison (Street Fighter Alpha 2). After Charlie was, um... "[[CameBackWrong fixed]]" by the Illuminati, he engaged in a quest for answers why the military betrayed him, and discovered that many of his former higher-ups were allied with Shadaloo. It would explain why he's so cold to Guile after so many years apart - because Guile wasn't there when he was betrayed, Charlie thought his best friend/pupil had abandoned him. Guile's promotion twisted the knife even further, as Charlie now associates military personnel of higher rank with loyalty to Shadaloo - therefore, Guile's higher rank makes him a Shadaloo agent by default.
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It's because Charlie has a massive grudge towards the military he was once part of, since [[CalvaryBetrayal it decided to betray him just when he had defeated M. Bison (Street Fighter Alpha 2). After Charlie was, um... "[[CameBackWrong fixed]]" by the Illuminati, he engaged in a quest for answers why the military betrayed him, and discovered that many of his former higher-ups were allied with Shadaloo. It would explain why he's so cold to Guile after so many years apart - because Guile wasn't there when he was betrayed, Charlie thought his best friend/pupil had abandoned him. Guile's promotion twisted the knife even further, as Charlie now associates military personnel of higher rank with loyalty to Shadaloo - therefore, Guile's higher rank makes him a Shadaloo agent by default.default.
* Jossed: The story mode Charlie holds nothing against Guile, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.
* Jossed: The story mode Charlie holds nothing against Guile, he's just more fixated on defeating Bison.
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Why would they all be developed at once? Well, perhaps...
[[WMG: The DLC characters will factor into the Cinematic Story Mode]]
We can see Nash looking at a photograph of Guile in the trailer, as if to show he still has some sense of humanity left and hasn't been completely consumed by the desire to kill Bison. Not only that, but makes a cameo in the Character Stories as well alongside fellow DLC characters Balrog, Juri and Ibuki, with all of them sporting redesigns. Why would they be popping up here? Well, if half the DLC roster is to be released before the Cinematic Story Mode goes live in June, it would only make sense for some, if not all the DLC characters to factor into it, especially if they're all being developed simultaneously as discussed in the above WMG.
[[WMG: The DLC characters will factor into the Cinematic Story Mode]]
We can see Nash looking at a photograph of Guile in the trailer, as if to show he still has some sense of humanity left and hasn't been completely consumed by the desire to kill Bison. Not only that, but makes a cameo in the Character Stories as well alongside fellow DLC characters Balrog, Juri and Ibuki, with all of them sporting redesigns. Why would they be popping up here? Well, if half the DLC roster is to be released before the Cinematic Story Mode goes live in June, it would only make sense for some, if not all the DLC characters to factor into it, especially if they're all being developed simultaneously as discussed in the above WMG.
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Why would they all be developed at once? Well, perhaps...
[[WMG: The DLC characters will factor into the Cinematic Story Mode]]
We can see Nash looking at a photograph of Guile in the trailer, as if to show he still has some sense of humanity left and hasn't been completely consumed by the desire to kill Bison. Not only that, but makes a cameo in the Character Stories as well alongside fellow DLC characters Balrog, Juri and Ibuki, with all of them sporting redesigns. Why would they be popping up here? Well, if half the DLC roster is to be released before the Cinematic Story Mode goes live in June, it would only make sense for some, if not all the DLC characters to factor into it, especially if they're all being developed simultaneously as discussed in the above WMG.
[[WMG: The DLC characters will factor into the Cinematic Story Mode]]
We can see Nash looking at a photograph of Guile in the trailer, as if to show he still has some sense of humanity left and hasn't been completely consumed by the desire to kill Bison. Not only that, but makes a cameo in the Character Stories as well alongside fellow DLC characters Balrog, Juri and Ibuki, with all of them sporting redesigns. Why would they be popping up here? Well, if half the DLC roster is to be released before the Cinematic Story Mode goes live in June, it would only make sense for some, if not all the DLC characters to factor into it, especially if they're all being developed simultaneously as discussed in the above WMG.
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[[WMG: The DLC characters will factor into the Cinematic Story Mode]]
We can see Nash looking at a photograph of Guile in the trailer, as if to show he still has some sense of humanity left and hasn't been completely consumed by the desire to kill Bison. Not only that, but makes a cameo in the Character Stories as well alongside fellow DLC characters Balrog, Juri and Ibuki, with all of them sporting redesigns. Why would they be popping up here? Well, if half the DLC roster is to be released before the Cinematic Story Mode goes live in June, it would only make sense for some, if not all the DLC characters to factor into it, especially if they're all being developed simultaneously as discussed in the above WMG.
