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16th Oct '17 5:07:16 PM matti23
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[[WMG: The Borg are overstretched.]]
It'd be pretty safe to assume that most species that know of the Borg in the Star Trek galaxy are hostile to them. Perhaps the Borg are fighting a massive war (or many wars) against their many neighbors which is taxing their resources to the limit. This may be why the Borg can only send 1 cube to attack the Federation. Perhaps any cubes seen outside their territory are just what little they can spare, sent to build up their numbers from easy targets.

The races fighting the Borg may be much more powerful than the Federation and be able to pose a threat to the Borg. Matti23



This might be an area devoted to something that the Federation wouldn't want the public to observe such as the testing of new prototype weapons and ships. Like a futuristic version of area 51. It might also have something to do with Section 31.

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This might be an area devoted to something that the Federation wouldn't want the public to observe such as the testing of new prototype weapons and ships. Like a futuristic version of area 51. It might also have something to do with Section 31.
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14th Oct '17 7:57:00 PM zepv
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This might be an area devoted to something that the Federation wouldn't want the public to observe such as the testing of new prototype weapons and ships. Like a futuristic version of area 51. It might also have something to do with Section 31. Matti23

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This might be an area devoted to something that the Federation wouldn't want the public to observe such as the testing of new prototype weapons and ships. Like a futuristic version of area 51. It might also have something to do with Section 31. Matti23
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14th Oct '17 7:56:32 PM zepv
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[[WMG: There's a Sector 000.]]
This might be an area devoted to something that the Federation wouldn't want the public to observe such as the testing of new prototype weapons and ships. Like a futuristic version of area 51. It might also have something to do with Section 31. Matti23
30th Aug '17 6:43:38 PM nombretomado
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*** However, Mozart and the like didn't have as many flat out copies of their music as we do now. Let's pick an album, say [[AlanisMorissette Jagged Little Pill.]] Over thirty million [=CDs=] out there, probably millions of digital copies of at least "Ironic" circulating through the Internet and various [=iTunes=] accounts. While classical music could be spread via others, our music doesn't need to be spread via other performers, artists and record companies do it themselves. Also, regarding WWIII in the 'Verse; it appears that it was more "vast tracts of infrastructure destroyed," not "Technology lost forever." They managed [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact to build a warp-capable starship, after all.]] And to top it off, there was Cochrane playing Steppenwolf on futuristic cassette. So, yeah, it was licensing fees that kept modern music off Trek.

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*** However, Mozart and the like didn't have as many flat out copies of their music as we do now. Let's pick an album, say [[AlanisMorissette [[Music/AlanisMorissette Jagged Little Pill.]] Over thirty million [=CDs=] out there, probably millions of digital copies of at least "Ironic" circulating through the Internet and various [=iTunes=] accounts. While classical music could be spread via others, our music doesn't need to be spread via other performers, artists and record companies do it themselves. Also, regarding WWIII in the 'Verse; it appears that it was more "vast tracts of infrastructure destroyed," not "Technology lost forever." They managed [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact to build a warp-capable starship, after all.]] And to top it off, there was Cochrane playing Steppenwolf on futuristic cassette. So, yeah, it was licensing fees that kept modern music off Trek.
12th Aug '17 3:19:00 AM SeptimusHeap
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-->[[{{Lolicon}} Scene that would be illegal to broadcast]] on ''any'' medium ensues...

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-->[[{{Lolicon}} Scene -->Scene that would be illegal to broadcast]] broadcast on ''any'' medium ensues...
7th Aug '17 7:42:05 PM beatpole
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When McCoy saved Edith Keeler he created an alternate timeline where the Nazis won WWII and conquered the world, destroying Federation civilization and replacing it with the fascist Terran Empire. When Kirk and Spock travelled back in time to stop McCoy from saving her they were able to return to their own timeline but, because of a temporal paradox created by the Guardian, the Alternate Universe wasn't destroyed and remained intertwined with the original universe, allowing occassional crossovers under certain conditions. Historical chhanges prior to WWII, such as the literary differences noted by Dr. Phlox, are actually historical revisionism or propaganda.

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When McCoy saved Edith Keeler he created an alternate timeline where the Nazis won WWII and conquered the world, destroying Federation civilization and replacing it with the fascist Terran Empire. When Kirk and Spock travelled back in time to stop McCoy from saving her they were able to return to their own timeline but, because of a temporal paradox created by the Guardian, the Alternate Universe wasn't destroyed and remained intertwined with the original universe, allowing occassional crossovers under certain conditions. Historical chhanges changes prior to WWII, such as the literary differences noted by Dr. Phlox, are actually historical revisionism or propaganda.
7th Aug '17 6:53:57 PM beatpole
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[[WMG: The Mirror Universe was created by the Guardian of Forever.]]
When McCoy saved Edith Keeler he created an alternate timeline where the Nazis won WWII and conquered the world, destroying Federation civilization and replacing it with the fascist Terran Empire. When Kirk and Spock travelled back in time to stop McCoy from saving her they were able to return to their own timeline but, because of a temporal paradox created by the Guardian, the Alternate Universe wasn't destroyed and remained intertwined with the original universe, allowing occassional crossovers under certain conditions. Historical chhanges prior to WWII, such as the literary differences noted by Dr. Phlox, are actually historical revisionism or propaganda.
2nd Aug '17 5:51:30 PM FTD
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[[WMG: Tribbles are the evolved descendants of all interfertile humanoid Federation species]]
Tom Paris' "evolution" in VGR: "Threshold" into a nonsentient lifeform indicates this might be humanity's future in the Prime Universe timeline. At some future point in time, humanity and many other interfertile Federations species who are peaceful by nature and live for pleasure and kindness (humans, Bolians, Betazoids, some Trill, etc) or at least, peace and stoicism, even a soothing calmness (Vulcans, most Trill, etc) interbreed and most of the Federation is one blended species with the exception of a few nonhumanoid and other non-interfertile species that can't make babies with humans, Vulcans or Betazoids. Eventually this blended species becomes so dependent on technology that organic, natural intelligence becomes a vestigial feature, their artificial intelligence is that good. The AI realizes what this dependence has cost humanoids: they are no longer curious or intelligent, they lack limbs or protective characteristics other than being soft and pleasant enough that most civilizations except Klingons, Talarians, Cardassians, etc, the warrior cultures and hardened militaristic states. Tribbles react poorly to them, and they react poorly to Tribbles. The Tribbles in the present timeline of Star Trak have been sent back in time from the far future by their AI caretakers to have a chance to redevelop sentience by interacting with their distant ancestors.
18th Jul '17 7:37:31 AM ijffdrie
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With the Klingon's it's obvious: they're an empire, what we think of as "the Klingon language" is actually their analogue to Mandarin Chinese - a common tongue for all the provinces. The Andorians? Italian is a constructed language based on various Italic languages, the Andorian Empire could have done something similar. Maybe the Tellarites use their version of Esperanto to communicate? And it's possible that Surak created the Vulcan language, as something like Lojban. All the humans in Star Trek probably have a {{CommonTongue}} as well - maybe a constructed language like Lojban or a majority language like English or Mandarin. I'm guessing it's Lojban and most other species just call it "Human".

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With the Klingon's it's obvious: they're an empire, what we think of as "the Klingon language" is actually their analogue to Mandarin Chinese - a common tongue for all the provinces. The Andorians? Italian is a constructed language based on various Italic languages, the Andorian Empire could have done something similar. Maybe the Tellarites use their version of Esperanto to communicate? And it's possible that Surak created the Vulcan language, as something like Lojban. All the humans in Star Trek probably have a {{CommonTongue}} as well - maybe a constructed language like Lojban or a majority language like English or Mandarin. I'm guessing it's Lojban and most other species just call it "Human"."Human".

[[WMG: World war 3 was triggered by warp drive development]]
Due to the limited resources available after an apocalypse, and the fact that warp drives are pretty complicated, it stands to reason that the bulk of warp theory was developed prior to all that going down. Now, look at warp capability from the perspective of a cold war-style conflict. Not only does it mean that you can launch an undetected first strike against your enemy, it also means that your second strike capability would never become damaged. Any nation with warp capability would have an insurmountable advantage against any nation that didn't. For that reason, it's likely that any nation developing warp drive would try to keep it under wraps, but the discovery of such technology could easily trigger a very rapid escalation (explaining how the cause of the war could be lost to history).
15th Jul '17 10:50:15 AM nombretomado
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* Except that it's the reverse. In the Shatnerverse novels and his memoirs, Bill writes plainly that Kirk acts like he does because Carol abandoned him, and took David away. Kirk, heartbroken, loves the Enterprise as his wife, the officers and crew as his children, and being human, satisfies himself with a different "Space Babe of the Week" because that's what Gene Roddenberry actually did during WW2 as a bomber pilot bedding nurses between sorties while his wife waited at home. Kirk onscreen was Gene in real life, and Shatner didn't like kissing a different woman every week because he thought about his wife differently: He respected her. Too bad Bill lost her, as he says, "Every TV show cost me a wife."

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* Except that it's the reverse. In the Shatnerverse novels and his memoirs, Bill writes plainly that Kirk acts like he does because Carol abandoned him, and took David away. Kirk, heartbroken, loves the Enterprise as his wife, the officers and crew as his children, and being human, satisfies himself with a different "Space Babe of the Week" because that's what Gene Roddenberry actually did during WW2 UsefulNotes/WW2 as a bomber pilot bedding nurses between sorties while his wife waited at home. Kirk onscreen was Gene in real life, and Shatner didn't like kissing a different woman every week because he thought about his wife differently: He respected her. Too bad Bill lost her, as he says, "Every TV show cost me a wife."



[[WMG: The Dominion War is a giant WW2 Allegory]]

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[[WMG: The Dominion War is a giant WW2 UsefulNotes/WW2 Allegory]]



* If the Breen are stand-ins for the Japanese role in World War Two, then wouldn't the attack on San Francisco be more analogous to Pearl Harbor? Their energy weapon could still stand in for V1 and V2 bombs, but the event was definitely Pearl Harbor.
* Not really; it is possible to have a war that is not WorldWarII. It is even possible to have a war between good and evil that is not WorldWarII.

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* If the Breen are stand-ins for the Japanese role in World War Two, then wouldn't the attack on San Francisco be more analogous to Pearl Harbor? Their energy weapon could still stand in for V1 [=V1=] and V2 [=V2=] bombs, but the event was definitely Pearl Harbor.
* Not really; it is possible to have a war that is not WorldWarII. UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. It is even possible to have a war between good and evil that is not WorldWarII.
World War II.
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