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So how likely was [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Jaina Proudmoore]] [[MemeticMutation being a Dreadlord all along?]] With the story development in ''Legion'', how likely will she snap and become a Raid Boss? Let's find out!

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: She's a young adult. 5
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=] she's left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default she's an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as she's now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
* Characterization: Surly, bitter NOW defines her. 3.
* Contentness: Full on Angst after Bombing of Theramore. 5.
* Morality of the story: Alliance and Horde has no higher ground in here. And then there's the Burning Legion... 5.
* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8. It's very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...

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So how likely was [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Jaina Proudmoore]] [[MemeticMutation being a Dreadlord all along?]] With the story development in ''Legion'', how likely will she snap and become a Raid Boss? Let's find out!

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: She's a young adult. 5
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=] she's left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default she's an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as she's now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
* Characterization: Surly, bitter NOW defines her. 3.
* Contentness: Full on Angst after Bombing of Theramore. 5.
* Morality of the story: Alliance and Horde has no higher ground in here. And then there's the Burning Legion... 5.
* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8. It's very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...

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So how likely was [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Jaina Proudmoore]] [[MemeticMutation being a Dreadlord all along?]] With the story development in ''Legion'', how likely will she snap and become a Raid Boss? Let's find out!

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: She's a young adult. 5
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=] she's left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default she's an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as she's now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
* Characterization: Surly, bitter NOW defines her. 3.
* Contentness: Full on Angst after Bombing of Theramore. 5.
* Morality of the story: Alliance and Horde has no higher ground in here. And then there's the Burning Legion... 5.
* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8. It's very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...
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Time to look at how [[MahouSenseiNegima Cosmo Entelachia]] fares on this front:

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Time to look at how [[MahouSenseiNegima [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Cosmo Entelachia]] fares on this front:
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As of the release of Film/TheForceAwakens, let's see how close Kylo Ren is to a possible redemption.

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As of the release of Film/TheForceAwakens, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', let's see how close Kylo Ren is to a possible redemption.
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As of the release of Film/TheForceAwakens, let's see how close Kylo Ren is to a possible redemption.

*Species: Human, 3.
*Gender: Male, 2.
*Age: Young Adult, 4.
*Role: He's basically Snoke's [[TheDragon Dragon]], so 4.
*Aesthetics: While the whole unmasking scene serves to show how unusually average-looking he truly is, a fairly large portion of the fandom [[DracoInLeatherPants seems to believe otherwise]], so let's compromise with a 4.
*Motivation: From what we know about his origins, "sheer anger and despair" (likely directed at his parents and/or Luke) seems to cut it. 3.
*Characterization: Conflicted, lost and confused indeed, 5.
*Contentedness: Let's face it, Kylo Ren is basically a huge, conflicted ball of angst. 5.
*Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, 4.
*Idealism: Idealistic, 5.
*Average: 39/10 = 3.9. Damn. Even though [[spoiler:the murder of his father]] did seem to cement him firmly onto the dark side, I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if he managed to get some sort of redemption by IX.
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Judging how most if the fanbase of ''ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see if they're right

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Judging how most if the fanbase of ''ShakuganNoShana'' ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see if they're right
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Abbey Gray from ''TheSecretSaturdays''. Already [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] once, will she be going back in season two?

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Abbey Gray from ''TheSecretSaturdays''.''WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays''. Already [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] once, will she be going back in season two?
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So how likely was [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Jaina Proudmoore]] [[MemeticMutation being a Dreadlord all along?]] With the story development in ''Legion'', how likely will she snap and become a Raid Boss? Let's find out!

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: She's a young adult. 5
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=] she's left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default she's an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as she's now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
* Characterization: Surly, bitter NOW defines her. 3.
* Contentness: Full on Angst after Bombing of Theramore. 5.
* Morality of the story: Alliance and Horde has no higher ground in here. And then there's the Burning Legion... 5.
* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8. It's very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...
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Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Man isn't as bad as NOL, Anji himself will more likely find something unsettling on him and cause him to call it quits.

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Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Man isn't as bad as NOL, Anji himself will more likely find something unsettling on him and cause him to call it quits.
quits. Turns out, [[spoiler:That Man has been taking swings into AntiVillain so Anji would more likely get out of Heel status if That Man can keep up the sympathy.]]



Average: Worst case 35/10 = 3.5. Beast case 36/10 = 3.6. Even more likely to go heel than Anji.

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Average: Worst case 35/10 = 3.5. Beast case 36/10 = 3.6. Even more likely to go heel than Anji.
Anji, and this is also compounded with [[spoiler:That Man taking swings into AntiVillain status. Well, Baiken might want to keep that vengeful streak in check...]]



Average: 30/10 = 3.0. Interesting. She seems to be a lot more likely to go Face than her ''[=BlazBlue=]'' counterpart Terumi. However, given her usual attitude, this isn't going to happen any time soon.

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Average: 30/10 = 3.0. Interesting. She seems to be a lot more likely to go Face than her ''[=BlazBlue=]'' counterpart Terumi. However, given her usual attitude, this isn't going to happen any time soon.
soon. [[spoiler:That Man might be taking a swing to AntiVillain, but we are not very sure if I-No, being herself, would follow suit or decides that she likes being evil more and grows sick of him telling her off whenever she goes a bit too far for his tastes.]]
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Let's see if we can figure out whether Agent Washington of RedVsBlue has gone bad:

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Let's see if we can figure out whether Agent Washington of RedVsBlue Machinima/RedVsBlue has gone bad:

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* Aesthetics: [[EvilIsSexy Evil Is Rugged]]. That mask ain't foolin' anyone, plus he got the voice of [[Creator/JunichiSuwabe someone who makes his characters]] MemeticSexGod - 4

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* Aesthetics: [[EvilIsSexy Evil Is Rugged]]. That mask ain't foolin' anyone, plus he got the voice of [[Creator/JunichiSuwabe someone who makes his characters]] MemeticSexGod a SexGod - 4
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So, in LiveALive, who'd da thunk that... [[spoiler:Oersted]], of all people, would SNAP so hard?

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So, in LiveALive, ''VideoGame/LiveALive'', who'd da thunk that... [[spoiler:Oersted]], of all people, would SNAP so hard?
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Okay, the last episode of {{Brave 10}} is nearly out and let's see if Anastasia will find her way to eventually become Face once more after whammy Heel turn in episode 9. [[OnTheNextEpisodeOfCatchPhrase Bring it on!]]

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Okay, the last episode of {{Brave 10}} ''Anime/{{Brave 10}}'' is nearly out and let's see if Anastasia will find her way to eventually become Face once more after whammy Heel turn in episode 9. [[OnTheNextEpisodeOfCatchPhrase Bring it on!]]
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'''KimPossible'''
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And just to be fair with the other ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', let's try to see if somewhere along the line in GuiltyGear, Anji Mito could call it quits with working with That Man.

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And just to be fair with the other ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', let's try to see if somewhere along the line in GuiltyGear, VideoGame/GuiltyGear, Anji Mito could call it quits with working with That Man.



* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Not as extreme as the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' setting, but GuiltyGear sure doesn't quite know a purely white faction. The Good: Holy Knights, Jellyfish Pirates, Zepp, Sol. The Bad: Assassin's Guild, That Man's group (barring I-No), Gears. The Evil: I-No, PWAB. - 4

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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Not as extreme as the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' setting, but GuiltyGear VideoGame/GuiltyGear sure doesn't quite know a purely white faction. The Good: Holy Knights, Jellyfish Pirates, Zepp, Sol. The Bad: Assassin's Guild, That Man's group (barring I-No), Gears. The Evil: I-No, PWAB. - 4
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We know that Griffith of ''{{Berserk}}'' went bad in a ''big'' way at the end of the anime, but what can the numbers tell us about whether or not we (and the Hawks) should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn coming?

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We know that Griffith of ''{{Berserk}}'' ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' went bad in a ''big'' way at the end of the anime, but what can the numbers tell us about whether or not we (and the Hawks) should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn coming?
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Now, Topher from ''{{Dollhouse}}''. A tough one. Joss Whedon loves to play with morality on the series. Topher has been stated, in-show, to ''have'' no morals, yet given the events of "Belonging" it's clear something's going to snap.

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Now, Topher from ''{{Dollhouse}}''.''{{Series/Dollhouse}}''. A tough one. Joss Whedon loves to play with morality on the series. Topher has been stated, in-show, to ''have'' no morals, yet given the events of "Belonging" it's clear something's going to snap.
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How about Miles Edgeworth from [[AceAttorney Ace Attorney]]? How likely was his Heel Face Turn in the first place?

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How about Miles Edgeworth from [[AceAttorney Ace Attorney]]? ''Franchise/AceAttorney''? How likely was his Heel Face Turn in the first place?



I can't believe no-one has [[IncrediblyLamePun checked out]] Spike from [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]. Was his HeelFaceTurn predictable?:

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I can't believe no-one has [[IncrediblyLamePun checked out]] Spike from [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]. Was his HeelFaceTurn predictable?:
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How about Neville from Series/{{iCarly}}? Was his HeelFaceTurn plausible?

* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Male, 2.
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: Middle Ground I guess? 3.
* Aesthetics: Pretty plain looking, 3.
* Motivation: LoveMakesYouEvil, but not in a "loyalty" sense. Could probably fall under "Unscrupulous with some kind of goal", so 2.
* Characterization: He was a pretty FlatCharacter, 1.
* Contentedness: Pretty much neutral. 3.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, 4.
* Idealism: Varies wildly, probably averages out at 3.

26/9=2.89. Almost exactly a 50/50 shot.

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Was Palpatine right to suspect he could turn Luke to the Dark Side?

* Species: Human, 3.
* Gender: Male, 4.
* Age: Middle Aged, 3.
* Role: TheHero, 1.
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, 3.
* Motivation: Love and loyalty, 2.
* Characterization: Borderline AllLovingHero, 1.
* Contentness: Life is hard, 4.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, 3.
* Cynicism: Idealistic, 1.

25/10=2.5. Not as hopeless as I was expecting, but he was still destined to fail.
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* Contentedness: Who knows?

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* Contentedness: Who knows?Pretty much neutral, 3.



17/9=1.88888888889. Not likely, but the comparative idealism of the story keeps it from being *entirely* hopeless.

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17/9=1.88888888889. 20/10=2. Not likely, but the comparative idealism of the story keeps it from being *entirely* hopeless.
again, still pretty high for ''the'' villain.
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* Motivation: Power, 2.

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* Motivation: Power, Considering himself above God. Is that power or hubris? Average out at 2.5.



16.5/9=1.83. Not likely, but the comparative idealism of the story keeps it from being *entirely* hopeless.

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16.5/9=1.83.17/9=1.88888888889. Not likely, but the comparative idealism of the story keeps it from being *entirely* hopeless.
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Species: Angels are definitely a SuperiorSpecies from a human perspective, but going by Biblical descriptions they also fall very much under "inhuman and creepy-looking". Averages out at a 2.5.
Gender: Male, 4.
Age: Unknown.
Role: He was an Archangel, so second-in-command. 5.
Aesthetics: Biblical angels are definitely otherworldly, 5.
Motivation: Actually, why? 5.
Characterization: Who knows?
Contentedness: Neutral as far as we know, 3.
Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white. Let's go with a 3.
Idealism: Varies, but generally tends towards idealism. 2.

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* Species: Angels are definitely a SuperiorSpecies from a human perspective, but going by Biblical descriptions they also fall very much under "inhuman and creepy-looking". Averages out at a 2.5.
* Gender: Male, 4.
* Age: Unknown.
* Role: He was an Archangel, so second-in-command. 5.
* Aesthetics: Biblical angels are definitely otherworldly, 5.
* Motivation: Actually, why? 5.
* Characterization: Who knows?
* Contentedness: Neutral as far as we know, 3.
* Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white. Let's go with a 3.
* Idealism: Varies, but generally tends towards idealism. 2.



Species: EldritchAbomination, 1.
Gender: Male, 2.
Age: Much, ''much'' older, 1.
Role: Leader, 1.
Aesthetics: Monstrous, 1.
Motivation: Power, 2.
Characterization: Pretty much the epitome of ObviouslyEvil, 1.
Contentedness: Who knows?
Morality: See above. Averages out to 3.5 this time.
Idealism: See above, 4.

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* Species: EldritchAbomination, 1.
* Gender: Male, 2.
* Age: Much, ''much'' older, 1.
* Role: Leader, 1.
* Aesthetics: Monstrous, 1.
* Motivation: Power, 2.
* Characterization: Pretty much the epitome of ObviouslyEvil, 1.
* Contentedness: Who knows?
* Morality: See above. Averages out to 3.5 this time.
* Idealism: See above, 4.
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Let's take a look at just how predictable the fall of Satan was. We'll only count Literature/TheBible for this.

Species: Angels are definitely a SuperiorSpecies from a human perspective, but going by Biblical descriptions they also fall very much under "inhuman and creepy-looking". Averages out at a 2.5.
Gender: Male, 4.
Age: Unknown.
Role: He was an Archangel, so second-in-command. 5.
Aesthetics: Biblical angels are definitely otherworldly, 5.
Motivation: Actually, why? 5.
Characterization: Who knows?
Contentedness: Neutral as far as we know, 3.
Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white. Let's go with a 3.
Idealism: Varies, but generally tends towards idealism. 2.

29.5/8=3.6875. Pretty high, but still quite low for the most notorious FaceHeelTurn ever.

Now, can he redeem himself?

Species: EldritchAbomination, 1.
Gender: Male, 2.
Age: Much, ''much'' older, 1.
Role: Leader, 1.
Aesthetics: Monstrous, 1.
Motivation: Power, 2.
Characterization: Pretty much the epitome of ObviouslyEvil, 1.
Contentedness: Who knows?
Morality: See above. Averages out to 3.5 this time.
Idealism: See above, 4.

16.5/9=1.83. Not likely, but the comparative idealism of the story keeps it from being *entirely* hopeless.

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Hitler liked dogs and Stalin had loved ones. Not Complete Monster, Hitler was in no way a Johann Liebert expy, don\'t use Complete Monster like that, it devalues the trope.


Despite all that, let the argument rest that Hitler was more evil than Stalin. Not all Complete Monsters are equally evil, it appears.

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Despite all that, let the argument rest that Hitler was more evil than Stalin. Not all Complete Monsters are equally evil, it appears.\n
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For AdolfHitler:

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For AdolfHitler:
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Should [[spoiler: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Madoka have seen Homuras rebellion coming]]]]

*species:human... or close enough, 3
*gender: female, 2
*age: teenager, or young adult depending on whether you count he time loop, 4.5
*role: freelancer, 4
*aesthetics: dignified, 2
*motivation for doing good: love and loyalty, 2
*characterization: surly, bitter, 3
*contentedness: angst, angst, angst, 5
*morality of the story: the good, the bad, and the evil, 3
*cynicism: 3
3.25: looks like she should
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* Motivation: She likes doing evil thing for the lulz - 1

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* Motivation: She likes doing evil thing for the lulz - 1

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