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[[Pyramid Head doesn't just represent punishment or James' dark side/sexual frustration...]]
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Read the [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/silenthill/esperandote.htm lyrics]]. The song has nothing to do with the plot of the original Silent Hill game, but fits perfectly with many of the themes from Silent Hill 2.
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[[WMG:The Plot of Silent Hill 2 was inspired by the Song "Esperándote" from the first game]]
Read the [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/silenthill/esperandote.htm lyrics]]. The song has nothing to do with the plot of the original Silent Hill game, but fits perfectly with many of the themes from Silent Hill 2.
[[WMG:The Plot of Silent Hill 2 was inspired by the Song "Esperándote" from the first game]]
Read the [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/silenthill/esperandote.htm lyrics]]. The song has nothing to do with the plot of the original Silent Hill game, but fits perfectly with many of the themes from Silent Hill 2.
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But what does it do to Eddie? Pyramid Head threatened James, because he believed that he had sinned. Abstract Daddy chased Angela and tried to kill her, because she could not escape her sin. But Eddie embraced his sin, and immersed himself in it in order to escape from the pain. Eddie's "executioner" most likely became voices in his head, whispering to come and merge with him and kill anyone who tried to hurt him, perhaps finally being able to escape the torment, but being alone and hated by everyone (still tied up).
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But what does it do to Eddie? Pyramid Head threatened James, because he believed that he had sinned. Abstract Daddy chased Angela and tried to kill her, because she could not escape her sin. But Eddie embraced his sin, and immersed himself in it in order to escape from the pain. Eddie's "executioner" most likely became voices in his head, whispering to come and merge with him and kill anyone who tried to hurt him, perhaps finally being able to escape the torment, but being alone and hated by everyone (still tied up).up).
[[WMG: Silent Hill is part of [[ChangelingTheLost the Hedge]].]]
* It's a strange, alien place that defies the laws of reality and reflects, to some extent, the minds of those of who go in.
-->'''Corebook's description of the Hedge:''' The Hedge is psychoactive. That is, it responds to the thoughts, moods and general presence of those within it. The power of the Hedge bridges a gap between the mind and the soul. It is possible to lose one's soul in the Thorns of the Hedge (as changelings whisper), but a hapless traveller stands an equal chance of losing his mind as the land around him reshapes itself.
-->The Hedge's appearance remains consistent to all viewers in some respects. It is always labyrinthine, with twists and turns and dead ends that seem to shift. The "walls" of this maze, however, usually resemble the overgrowth commonly present in the area.
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-->The Hedge is not, by nature, an evil place. The Hedge does not tempt people to sin or to act against their fellow people. It does not change a person's morals (or [[KarmaMeter Morality]]). Why, then, do the old stories speak of [[SexIsEvil women of goodly virtue]] taken by the faeries to submit to nights of carnal debauchery? Why might a man of stout heart turn into a gibbering coward in the Briars?
-->The reason is that the Hedge changes perspective.
[[WMG: Silent Hill is part of [[ChangelingTheLost the Hedge]].]]
* It's a strange, alien place that defies the laws of reality and reflects, to some extent, the minds of those of who go in.
-->'''Corebook's description of the Hedge:''' The Hedge is psychoactive. That is, it responds to the thoughts, moods and general presence of those within it. The power of the Hedge bridges a gap between the mind and the soul. It is possible to lose one's soul in the Thorns of the Hedge (as changelings whisper), but a hapless traveller stands an equal chance of losing his mind as the land around him reshapes itself.
-->The Hedge's appearance remains consistent to all viewers in some respects. It is always labyrinthine, with twists and turns and dead ends that seem to shift. The "walls" of this maze, however, usually resemble the overgrowth commonly present in the area.
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-->The reason is that the Hedge changes perspective.
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* This troper find this theory interesting, but disagrees with [[{{DeadlyPremonition}} that]] [[{{Killer7}} last]] [[{{Suda51}} sentence.]]
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* This troper find this theory interesting, but disagrees with [[{{DeadlyPremonition}} [[VideoGame/DeadlyPremonition that]] [[{{Killer7}} last]] [[{{Suda51}} sentence.]]
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But what makes this creature more than just a human, and what does it do? James's masculinity and sexuality were represented by an extremely masculine rapist, while Angela's sexual abuse and resulting hatred of men were represented by two creatures tied together and one raping the other. Therefore, Eddie's must represent torment and subsequent feelings of hatred and anger. My guess is that Eddie's is some kind of tied-up [[hottip:*:like the Janitor from the first film]] blob-like [[hottip:*:because Eddie is fat]] HumanoidAbomination which kills anything that comes near it, representing how Eddie was trapped and tormented by the bullying, and subsequently began attacking anything that angered him. It may even be one of the NothingIsScarier monsters; going by the WMG up there that James can experience the Abstract Daddy because it represents males dominating females because of sex and violence, but James's manifestation of it is weaker because he has never been raped or raped anyone, James can only hear Eddie's and not see them, because while he killed someone who was tormenting him, Mary was a Tsundere instead of a simple jerk.
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But what makes this creature more than just a human, and what does it do? James's masculinity and sexuality were represented by an extremely masculine rapist, while Angela's sexual abuse and resulting hatred of men were represented by two creatures tied together and one raping the other. Therefore, Eddie's must represent torment and subsequent feelings of hatred and anger. My guess is that Eddie's is some kind of tied-up [[hottip:*:like [[note]]like the Janitor from the first film]] film[[/note]] blob-like [[hottip:*:because [[note]]because Eddie is fat]] fat[[/note]] HumanoidAbomination which kills anything that comes near it, representing how Eddie was trapped and tormented by the bullying, and subsequently began attacking anything that angered him. It may even be one of the NothingIsScarier monsters; going by the WMG up there that James can experience the Abstract Daddy because it represents males dominating females because of sex and violence, but James's manifestation of it is weaker because he has never been raped or raped anyone, James can only hear Eddie's and not see them, because while he killed someone who was tormenting him, Mary was a Tsundere instead of a simple jerk.
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But what makes this creature more than just a human, and what does it do? James's masculinity and sexuality were represented by an extremely masculine rapist, while Angela's sexual abuse and resulting hatred of men were represented by two creatures tied together and one raping the other. Therefore, Eddie's must represent torment and subsequent feelings of hatred and anger. My guess is that Eddie's is some kind of tied-up blob-like HumanoidAbomination which kills anything that comes near it, representing how Eddie was trapped and tormented by the bullying, and subsequently began attacking anything that angered him. It may even be one of the NothingIsScarier monsters; going by the WMG up there that James can experience the Abstract Daddy because it represents males dominating females because of sex and violence, but James's manifestation of it is weaker because he has never been raped or raped anyone, James can only hear Eddie's and not see them, because while he killed someone who was tormenting him, Mary was a Tsundere instead of a simple jerk.
But what makes this creature more than just a human, and what does it do? James's masculinity and sexuality were represented by an extremely masculine rapist, while Angela's sexual abuse and resulting hatred of men were represented by two creatures tied together and one raping the other. Therefore, Eddie's must represent torment and subsequent feelings of hatred and anger. My guess is that Eddie's is some kind of tied-up blob-like HumanoidAbomination which kills anything that comes near it, representing how Eddie was trapped and tormented by the bullying, and subsequently began attacking anything that angered him. It may even be one of the NothingIsScarier monsters; going by the WMG up there that James can experience the Abstract Daddy because it represents males dominating females because of sex and violence, but James's manifestation of it is weaker because he has never been raped or raped anyone, James can only hear Eddie's and not see them, because while he killed someone who was tormenting him, Mary was a Tsundere instead of a simple jerk.
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But what makes this creature more than just a human, and what does it do? James's masculinity and sexuality were represented by an extremely masculine rapist, while Angela's sexual abuse and resulting hatred of men were represented by two creatures tied together and one raping the other. Therefore, Eddie's must represent torment and subsequent feelings of hatred and anger. My guess is that Eddie's is some kind of tied-up [[hottip:*:like the Janitor from the first film]] blob-like [[hottip:*:because Eddie is fat]] HumanoidAbomination which kills anything that comes near it, representing how Eddie was trapped and tormented by the bullying, and subsequently began attacking anything that angered him. It may even be one of the NothingIsScarier monsters; going by the WMG up there that James can experience the Abstract Daddy because it represents males dominating females because of sex and violence, but James's manifestation of it is weaker because he has never been raped or raped anyone, James can only hear Eddie's and not see them, because while he killed someone who was tormenting him, Mary was a Tsundere instead of a simple
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[[WMG: The identity of Eddie's "Pyramid Head".]]
Pyramid Head is a representation of the negative feelings experienced from the murder which caused James to go to Silent Hill, and the events which led up to it; James's incredibly masculine sexual frustration. By this logic, the Abstract Daddy could be Angela's equivalent of a Pyramid Head; he is created from Angela's memory of her father, and the sexual abuse which he caused. However, Eddie's Pyramid Head is never revealed, and neither are any of the monsters which he sees in Silent Hill. Eddie's Pyramid Head must be something to do with being tormented, and it's most likely that he or she is based on the victim of Eddie's murder, because James's murder was different to Eddie's and Angela's. While Eddie and Angela killed because they were frustrated with other people, James did it because of his own feelings (although one of the reasons that James killed Mary ''was'' because she was being a bitch to him, this isn't the motive that Pyramid Head represents). Therefore, while Angela's depicts the victim (the guilty party), James's depicts himself (also the guilty party). Of course, Eddie's is again different from Angela's; while Angela killed the one who made her become a murderer, Eddie killed the bully's dog, making him the only one who didn't kill the person whose actions made him a murderer (there's no confirmation that he killed the bully). The depiction of the dog is actually Mira (implied in the Dog ending, when she growls at Eddie), but Mira is only dangerous in the non-canon Dog ending, meaning that while she was probably there, she can't be the Pyramid Head. Using this logic, Eddie's Pyramid Head is probably a monstrous version of the football player that Eddie wounded.
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But what makes this creature more than just a human, and what does it do? James's masculinity and sexuality were represented by an extremely masculine rapist, while Angela's sexual abuse and resulting hatred of men were represented by two creatures tied together and one raping the other. Therefore, Eddie's must represent torment and subsequent feelings of hatred and anger. My guess is that Eddie's is some kind of tied-up blob-like HumanoidAbomination which kills anything that comes near it, representing how Eddie was trapped and tormented by the bullying, and subsequently began attacking anything that angered him. It may even be one of the NothingIsScarier monsters; going by the WMG up there that James can experience the Abstract Daddy because it represents males dominating females because of sex and violence, but James's manifestation of it is weaker because he has never been raped or raped anyone, James can only hear Eddie's and not see them, because while he killed someone who was tormenting him, Mary was a Tsundere instead of a simple jerk.
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** Except for the follow-up line "I never did find ''him''," (emphasis mine) which strongly suggests a male, [[SarcasmMode sure, it could be Cybil or Angela.]] And since ''private'' detectives are typically hired by people of the non-cop persuasion (and kind of pricey... ), you have to consider: who'd care enough about Eddie to send a PI after him?
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** Except for the follow-up line "I never did find ''him''," (emphasis mine) which strongly suggests a male, [[SarcasmMode sure, it could be Cybil or Angela.]] And since ''private'' detectives are typically hired by people of the non-cop persuasion (and kind of pricey... ), pricey), you have to consider: who'd care enough about Eddie to send a PI after him?
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[[WMG: Pyramid Head's true face is...]]
James' face. This is because Pyramid Head does not just represent his dark side, sexual frustration, pain and punishment, it represents self-loathing. His marriage to Mary may not have been perfect, but he did love her. He loved her so much that, when she was nearing the end of her life, where her illness caused her a significant amount of agony, he put her out of her misery. However, he knows he is a murderer and knows he will be viewed as a monster for what he did. Going with the 'In Water' ending, where James commits suicide by drowning, James has unknowingly left a psychic imprint on Silent Hill, resulting in Pyramid Head lingering, thus explaining why he sometimes pops up in the Otherworlds and Dark Worlds of other visitors to the town: He is an enduring symbol of self-punishment.
James' face. This is because Pyramid Head does not just represent his dark side, sexual frustration, pain and punishment, it represents self-loathing. His marriage to Mary may not have been perfect, but he did love her. He loved her so much that, when she was nearing the end of her life, where her illness caused her a significant amount of agony, he put her out of her misery. However, he knows he is a murderer and knows he will be viewed as a monster for what he did. Going with the 'In Water' ending, where James commits suicide by drowning, James has unknowingly left a psychic imprint on Silent Hill, resulting in Pyramid Head lingering, thus explaining why he sometimes pops up in the Otherworlds and Dark Worlds of other visitors to the town: He is an enduring symbol of self-punishment.
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[[WMG: Pyramid Head's significance to Silent Hill and his true face is...face.]]
His true face is actually James' face. This is because Pyramid Head does not just represent his dark side, sexual frustration, pain and punishment, it represents self-loathing. His marriage to Mary may not have been perfect, but he did love her. He loved her so much that, when she was nearing the end of her life, where her illness caused her a significant amount of agony, he put her out of her misery. However, he knows he is a murderer and knows he will be viewed as a monster for what he did. Going with the 'In Water' ending, where James commits suicide by drowning, James has unknowingly left a psychic imprint on Silent Hill, resulting in Pyramid Head lingering, thus explaining why he sometimes pops up in the Otherworlds and Dark Worlds of other visitors to the town: He is an enduring symbol of self-punishment.
His true face is actually James' face. This is because Pyramid Head does not just represent his dark side, sexual frustration, pain and punishment, it represents self-loathing. His marriage to Mary may not have been perfect, but he did love her. He loved her so much that, when she was nearing the end of her life, where her illness caused her a significant amount of agony, he put her out of her misery. However, he knows he is a murderer and knows he will be viewed as a monster for what he did. Going with the 'In Water' ending, where James commits suicide by drowning, James has unknowingly left a psychic imprint on Silent Hill, resulting in Pyramid Head lingering, thus explaining why he sometimes pops up in the Otherworlds and Dark Worlds of other visitors to the town: He is an enduring symbol of self-punishment.
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This is mirrored in "In Water". James can't bring himself to believe that a life without Mary is any life worth living. "Without you, Mary, I've got nothing."
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This is mirrored in "In Water". James can't bring himself to believe that a life without Mary is any life worth living. "Without you, Mary, I've got nothing.""
[[WMG: Pyramid Head's true face is...]]
James' face. This is because Pyramid Head does not just represent his dark side, sexual frustration, pain and punishment, it represents self-loathing. His marriage to Mary may not have been perfect, but he did love her. He loved her so much that, when she was nearing the end of her life, where her illness caused her a significant amount of agony, he put her out of her misery. However, he knows he is a murderer and knows he will be viewed as a monster for what he did. Going with the 'In Water' ending, where James commits suicide by drowning, James has unknowingly left a psychic imprint on Silent Hill, resulting in Pyramid Head lingering, thus explaining why he sometimes pops up in the Otherworlds and Dark Worlds of other visitors to the town: He is an enduring symbol of self-punishment.
[[WMG: Pyramid Head's true face is...]]
James' face. This is because Pyramid Head does not just represent his dark side, sexual frustration, pain and punishment, it represents self-loathing. His marriage to Mary may not have been perfect, but he did love her. He loved her so much that, when she was nearing the end of her life, where her illness caused her a significant amount of agony, he put her out of her misery. However, he knows he is a murderer and knows he will be viewed as a monster for what he did. Going with the 'In Water' ending, where James commits suicide by drowning, James has unknowingly left a psychic imprint on Silent Hill, resulting in Pyramid Head lingering, thus explaining why he sometimes pops up in the Otherworlds and Dark Worlds of other visitors to the town: He is an enduring symbol of self-punishment.
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...He represents James' self-loathing. In my headcanon, PH's face is James' face, as James hates himself and views himself as a monster for killing his wife, an act that, again, my headcanon, stems from a desire to end Mary's pain. Even when he euthanized his wife, he knew he was a murderer and hated himself for it. Additionally, the reason PH keeps showing up in one form or another is because he is a representation of punishment, more specifically self-punishment. This leads into another theory of mine, which is...
[['In Water' is canon, and James' suicide left a stain on Silent Hill]]
The stain James left when he committed suicide was so great that Pyramid Head became a permanent fixture of Silent Hill. He doesn't appear for everyone, but when he does, it likely represents self-punishment or self-loathing. The Butcher, a similar monster from Origins, represents self-punishment and/or self-loathing. Should someone who loathes themselves for one reason or another arrive in Silent Hill, Pyramid Head or a similar monster will appear. Because the monster is spawned from/influenced by their subconscious, it won't immediately attack you, as it is trying to lead you toward the truth, whatever that may be.
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And, being a dog, he has no idea of what he's doing.
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And, being a dog, he has no idea of what he's doing.doing.
[[WMG: Angela doesn't represent James' guilt,]]
She represents his despair.
Angela never expresses remorse for what she did, although she may feel it. What she does express (particularly in her last cutscene) is complete and utter ''hopelessness'', to the point of bitterly and cynically rejecting any alternatives. She throws James' attempts at consoling her back in his face. She doesn't want anyone's pity. She doesn't want anyone's help. She isn't goint to help herself. She just wants to lay down and ''die''.
This is mirrored in "In Water". James can't bring himself to believe that a life without Mary is any life worth living. "Without you, Mary, I've got nothing."
[[WMG: Angela doesn't represent James' guilt,]]
She represents his despair.
Angela never expresses remorse for what she did, although she may feel it. What she does express (particularly in her last cutscene) is complete and utter ''hopelessness'', to the point of bitterly and cynically rejecting any alternatives. She throws James' attempts at consoling her back in his face. She doesn't want anyone's pity. She doesn't want anyone's help. She isn't goint to help herself. She just wants to lay down and ''die''.
This is mirrored in "In Water". James can't bring himself to believe that a life without Mary is any life worth living. "Without you, Mary, I've got nothing."
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[[WMG: Alternatively, the UFO endings are alternate continuity]]
Most UFO endings seem to be based on past UFO ending, for example, theUFO ending of the second game has Harry working for the aliens and the third game shows harry and james togheter in the UFO ending.
Most UFO endings seem to be based on past UFO ending, for example, theUFO ending of the second game has Harry working for the aliens and the third game shows harry and james togheter in the UFO ending.
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* Douglas makes a similar comment regarding James disappearing in SilentHill3, but I don't think that necessarily means James is canonically dead. He could have just as easily dropped off the grid with Laura after the "Leave" ending.
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* Douglas makes a similar comment regarding James disappearing in SilentHill3, ''SilentHill3'', but I don't think that necessarily means James is canonically dead. He could have just as easily dropped off the grid with Laura after the "Leave" ending.
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[[WMG: Mary's illness was the same one that plagued Silent Hill in 1880 and she got it while visiting there]]
During their visit to Silent Hill, Mary somehow contracted it when she visited Rosewater Park, the Lakeview Hotel or some other place. And perhaps it was not chance that Mary would succumb and James would be compelled to return? Perhaps it was...design?
During their visit to Silent Hill, Mary somehow contracted it when she visited Rosewater Park, the Lakeview Hotel or some other place. And perhaps it was not chance that Mary would succumb and James would be compelled to return? Perhaps it was...design?
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* Kind of makes sense, too, considering that besides the switch after James watches the tape at the hotel, there never really is a clear moment when something switches to the otherworld, or at least the differences are far more subtle than any other silent hill. Even though the Hospital switch was pretty direct, the level doesn't actually change all that much, and there is never really a clear switch back. When you leave to go after Laura, the town really isn't any different save a few new cryptic messages other than the fact that it's nighttime. And the fogworld here is far more messed up than the one in the first game. Really, the only time you really know which one you're in is after leaving the labyrinth to row across the lake to the hotel and after the scene with the video tape.
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* Kind of makes sense, too, considering that besides the switch after James watches the tape at the hotel, there never really is a clear moment when something switches to the otherworld, or at least the differences are far more subtle than any other silent hill. Even though the Hospital switch was pretty direct, the level doesn't actually change all that much, and there is never really a clear switch back. When you leave to go after Laura, the town really isn't any different save a few new cryptic messages other than the fact that it's nighttime. And the fogworld here is far more messed up than the one in the first game. Really, the only time you really know which one you're in is after leaving the labyrinth to row across the lake to the hotel and after the scene with the video tape.tape.
[[WMG: The Dog Ending is the true one, and [[TheDogIsTheMastermind the dog manipulating that machine is the cause of the Silent Hill Curse]].]]
And, being a dog, he has no idea of what he's doing.
[[WMG: The Dog Ending is the true one, and [[TheDogIsTheMastermind the dog manipulating that machine is the cause of the Silent Hill Curse]].]]
And, being a dog, he has no idea of what he's doing.
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It's a purgatory that was created by the sinister [[SilentHill1 Dahlia Gillespie]]. It call those or is "conviently found by those who seek punishment for something even if they don't really don't deserve such as Angela Orosco. Even though the Mother Sect that gave Silent Hill(Other World) is a blasphemous lie, it still had an affect on Silent Hill. Everyone in Silent Hill(Hell) clearly sees it differently and if affected by it differently judging by their comments during their ordealous journeys. Eddie and Angela definitely didn't go through the same chain of events in Silent Hill as James because they were searching for something different.
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It's a purgatory that was created by the sinister [[SilentHill1 Dahlia Gillespie]]. It call those or is "conviently found by those who seek punishment for something even if they don't really don't deserve such as Angela Orosco. Even though the Mother Sect that gave Silent Hill(Other World) is a blasphemous lie, it still had an affect on Silent Hill. Everyone in Silent Hill(Hell) clearly sees it differently and if affected by it differently judging by their comments during their ordealous journeys. Eddie and Angela definitely didn't go through the same chain of events in Silent Hill as James because they were searching for something different.different.
* Kind of makes sense, too, considering that besides the switch after James watches the tape at the hotel, there never really is a clear moment when something switches to the otherworld, or at least the differences are far more subtle than any other silent hill. Even though the Hospital switch was pretty direct, the level doesn't actually change all that much, and there is never really a clear switch back. When you leave to go after Laura, the town really isn't any different save a few new cryptic messages other than the fact that it's nighttime. And the fogworld here is far more messed up than the one in the first game. Really, the only time you really know which one you're in is after leaving the labyrinth to row across the lake to the hotel and after the scene with the video tape.
* Kind of makes sense, too, considering that besides the switch after James watches the tape at the hotel, there never really is a clear moment when something switches to the otherworld, or at least the differences are far more subtle than any other silent hill. Even though the Hospital switch was pretty direct, the level doesn't actually change all that much, and there is never really a clear switch back. When you leave to go after Laura, the town really isn't any different save a few new cryptic messages other than the fact that it's nighttime. And the fogworld here is far more messed up than the one in the first game. Really, the only time you really know which one you're in is after leaving the labyrinth to row across the lake to the hotel and after the scene with the video tape.
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** Douglas never actually specified that he was talking about James. He merely said he went to Silent Hill once, on a missing persons case. No name or sex given. Cybil, Eddie, or Angela could have easily been one of the people he was referring to as much as James.
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* No mention of Angel's mother is made, outside of that quote...to build on this, one wonders if Angela's mother didn't abandon her? She says she's looking for he mother at the beginning. It kinda makes some sense.
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* It sounds nice but it is very unlikely. Eddie is also a [[CompleteMonster mindless killing machine]] who will go on a homicidal oragies when ever he "gets in a bad mood". Does he sound like the buxom of innocence now?
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* It sounds nice but it is very unlikely. Eddie is also a [[CompleteMonster mindless killing machine]] machine who will go on a homicidal oragies when ever he "gets in a bad mood". Does he sound like the buxom of innocence now?
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[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
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It's a purgatory that was created by the sinister [[SilentHill1 Dahlia Gillespie]]. It call those or is "conviently found by those who seek punishment for something even if they don't really don't deserve such as Angela Orosco. Even though the Mother Sect that gave Silent Hill(Other World) is a blasphemous lie, it still had an affect on Silent Hill. Everyone in Silent Hill(Hell) clearly sees it differently and if affected by it differently judging by their comments during their ordealous journeys. Eddie and Angela definitely didn't go through the same chain of events in Silent Hill as James because they were searching for something different.
[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
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It's a purgatory that was created by the sinister [[SilentHill1 Dahlia Gillespie]]. It call those or is "conviently found by those who seek punishment for something even if they don't really don't deserve such as Angela Orosco. Even though the Mother Sect that gave Silent Hill(Other World) is a blasphemous lie, it still had an affect on Silent Hill. Everyone in Silent Hill(Hell) clearly sees it differently and if affected by it differently judging by their comments during their ordealous journeys. Eddie and Angela definitely didn't go through the same chain of events in Silent Hill as James because they were searching for something different.
[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.different.
[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
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It's a purgatory that was created by the sinister [[SilentHill1 Dahlia Gillespie]]. It call those or is "conviently found by those who seek punishment for something even if they don't really don't deserve such as Angela Orosco. Even though the Mother Sect that gave Silent Hill(Other World) is a blasphemous lie, it still had an affect on Silent Hill. Everyone in Silent Hill(Hell) clearly sees it differently and if affected by it differently judging by their comments during their ordealous journeys. Eddie and Angela definitely didn't go through the same chain of events in Silent Hill as James because they were searching for something different.
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It's a purgatory that was created by the sinister [[SilentHill1 Dahlia Gillespie]]. It call those or is "conviently found by those who seek punishment for something even if they don't really don't deserve such as Angela Orosco. Even though the Mother Sect that gave Silent Hill(Other World) is a blasphemous lie, it still had an affect on Silent Hill. Everyone in Silent Hill(Hell) clearly sees it differently and if affected by it differently judging by their comments during their ordealous journeys. Eddie and Angela definitely didn't go through the same chain of events in Silent Hill as James because they were searching for something different.different.
[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
[[WMG: Angela ascends to Heaven when she goes up the stairs]]
Think about it. The revelation that Angela has been seeing Silent Hill as what most people consider hell 24/7 e.g. with the flames and all. When she goes up the stairs, she's pretty much given up on life and as such, it's her time to go. She finally get to go to heaven and thus that is why she goes up the stairs (unlike Eddie or James who can leave the town either literally or through dying) she is finally leaving the hell of Silent Hill, to go onto a higher and better plane.
