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** There's an aversion here with that though: As you pointed out Laurie broken one (technically two since she had three different kids in three different timelines, with her dying in one and continuing to survive in two), and has continued to survive in two separate timelines of the story. Alice broken two/three rules (I saw three, because she may have already broken the first rule before the main bulk of the story began) and died at the start of Part 2. This suggests that if someone only breaks one or two rules, they'll continue to survive (if they break two, they're chances of survival are reduced but not completely "you're screwed" territory). The same is true in the Scream series. Sidney only broke one rule, and survived four films in the series (she might have broken the drinking rule, thus having two rules broken). Randy broke two rules (drinking out the wazoo in the first film, and as we learn in between the first and second film, broke the "no sex" rule, which he himself realized was a mistake according to his tape), but he may have also broken the "I'll be right back rule" sometime between the first two films and completely forgot it. The rules he states doesn't state it has to be on screen when they're broken.
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** There's First of all: you for the third rule: Don't say "I'll be right back." However, though your argument is compelling, there's an aversion here with what you're suggesting that though: you may not have taken into account: As you pointed out Laurie broken one (technically two since she had three different kids in three different timelines, with her dying in one and continuing to survive in two), two) in her entire exist, and has continued to survive in two separate timelines of the story. Alice broken two/three rules (I saw three, because she may have already broken the first no sex rule before the main bulk of the story began) began, and may have broken the "I'll be right back" rule sometime after the events of the first film) and died at the start of Part 2. This suggests that if someone only breaks one or two rules, they'll continue to survive (if they break two, they're survive, but, their chances of survival are reduced but not completely "you're screwed" territory). The same is true in the Scream series. Sidney only broke one rule, and survived four films in the series (she might have broken the drinking rule, thus having two rules broken). Randy broke two rules (drinking out the wazoo in the first film, and as we learn in between the first and second film, broke the "no sex" rule, which he himself realized was a mistake according to his tape), but he may have also broken the "I'll be right back rule" sometime between the first two films and completely forgot it. The rules he states doesn't state it has to be on screen when they're broken.broken for the death sentence.
-- But then again, just because a character break the rules in the first film and survives doesn't guarantee they'd survive any sequels. Remember, the first set of rules are for "How to Successfully Survive a Horror Movie." But, as anyone knows: some rules are meant to be broken, and the Scream franchise clearly broken the typical "horror movie" rules. So, if anything, you're argument is correct, but for the wrong reason: the rules of a typically horror movie is established. Scream intended for the rules to be broken (besides, the Scream franchise's main thing was being meta. It's kinda their schtick).
-- But then again, just because a character break the rules in the first film and survives doesn't guarantee they'd survive any sequels. Remember, the first set of rules are for "How to Successfully Survive a Horror Movie." But, as anyone knows: some rules are meant to be broken, and the Scream franchise clearly broken the typical "horror movie" rules. So, if anything, you're argument is correct, but for the wrong reason: the rules of a typically horror movie is established. Scream intended for the rules to be broken (besides, the Scream franchise's main thing was being meta. It's kinda their schtick).
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Conclusion, the people in these movies, or at least originally were not savvy to the genre. But more pop culture know-it-alls who think they know the genre, but actually don't.
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Conclusion, the people in these movies, or at least originally were not savvy to the genre. But more pop culture know-it-alls who think they know the genre, but actually don't.don't.
** There's an aversion here with that though: As you pointed out Laurie broken one (technically two since she had three different kids in three different timelines, with her dying in one and continuing to survive in two), and has continued to survive in two separate timelines of the story. Alice broken two/three rules (I saw three, because she may have already broken the first rule before the main bulk of the story began) and died at the start of Part 2. This suggests that if someone only breaks one or two rules, they'll continue to survive (if they break two, they're chances of survival are reduced but not completely "you're screwed" territory). The same is true in the Scream series. Sidney only broke one rule, and survived four films in the series (she might have broken the drinking rule, thus having two rules broken). Randy broke two rules (drinking out the wazoo in the first film, and as we learn in between the first and second film, broke the "no sex" rule, which he himself realized was a mistake according to his tape), but he may have also broken the "I'll be right back rule" sometime between the first two films and completely forgot it. The rules he states doesn't state it has to be on screen when they're broken.
** There's an aversion here with that though: As you pointed out Laurie broken one (technically two since she had three different kids in three different timelines, with her dying in one and continuing to survive in two), and has continued to survive in two separate timelines of the story. Alice broken two/three rules (I saw three, because she may have already broken the first rule before the main bulk of the story began) and died at the start of Part 2. This suggests that if someone only breaks one or two rules, they'll continue to survive (if they break two, they're chances of survival are reduced but not completely "you're screwed" territory). The same is true in the Scream series. Sidney only broke one rule, and survived four films in the series (she might have broken the drinking rule, thus having two rules broken). Randy broke two rules (drinking out the wazoo in the first film, and as we learn in between the first and second film, broke the "no sex" rule, which he himself realized was a mistake according to his tape), but he may have also broken the "I'll be right back rule" sometime between the first two films and completely forgot it. The rules he states doesn't state it has to be on screen when they're broken.
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** No drinking, no illegal drugs: Alice drank and smoked potin the first Friday and survived. So did Ginny in Part 2. Even goodie two-shoes Laurie was smoking a joint with Annie in Halloween.
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** No drinking, no illegal drugs: Alice drank and smoked potin pot in the first Friday and survived. So did Ginny in Part 2. Even goodie two-shoes Laurie was smoking a joint with Annie in Halloween.
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* It's certainly possible that [[spoiler:Roman]] could have acquired the necessary voices. Everyone (except for the deceased Maureen) that had their voices on the scrambler was part of the cast and crew for "Stab 3". As the director of "Stab 3", he could record the voices (Cotton was scheduled for a cameo in the film and Gale and Dewey were consultants), so if they were around on the set, he could record their voices (or at least an approximation) and add them into his scrambler, alongside the default "Ghostface" setting. As for Maureen? [[spoiler:Roman]] stalked her for weeks, if not months. He would have had ample opportunity to record her voice.
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* It's certainly possible that [[spoiler:Roman]] could have acquired the necessary voices. Everyone (except for the deceased Maureen) that had their voices on the scrambler was part of the cast and crew for "Stab 3". As the director of "Stab 3", he could record the voices (Cotton was scheduled for a cameo in the film and Gale and Dewey were consultants), so if they were around on the set, he could record their voices (or at least an approximation) and add them into his scrambler, alongside the default "Ghostface" setting. As for Maureen? [[spoiler:Roman]] stalked her for weeks, if not months. He would have had ample opportunity to record her voice.voice.
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* Take a look at Randy's rules to survive a horror film:
** No drinking, no illegal drugs: Alice drank and smoked potin the first Friday and survived. So did Ginny in Part 2. Even goodie two-shoes Laurie was smoking a joint with Annie in Halloween.
** No sex: There's nothing to hint that Alice is a virgin(her flirting with Bob about continuing the game of strip monopoly hints she isn't) and Ginny in Part 2 has sex with Paul.
Conclusion, the people in these movies, or at least originally were not savvy to the genre. But more pop culture know-it-alls who think they know the genre, but actually don't.
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* Take a look at Randy's rules to survive a horror film:
** No drinking, no illegal drugs: Alice drank and smoked potin the first Friday and survived. So did Ginny in Part 2. Even goodie two-shoes Laurie was smoking a joint with Annie in Halloween.
** No sex: There's nothing to hint that Alice is a virgin(her flirting with Bob about continuing the game of strip monopoly hints she isn't) and Ginny in Part 2 has sex with Paul.
Conclusion, the people in these movies, or at least originally were not savvy to the genre. But more pop culture know-it-alls who think they know the genre, but actually don't.
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**Another thing to add is how casual she was with ghost face even thou the killer hasn’t been caught yet, even thou she knows the killer is targeting Sidney, she was also kicking his ass pretty hard in that scene to more than anyone is the franchise really, besides Sidney. If only she didn’t try to escape. Also a good rebuttal is that Roman only helped kill Sidney’s mother, he isn’t involved in scream 1 killings.
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* It'll turn out that she planned the entire series of events from behind the scenes along with Randy and another character who'll be introduced in the final movie. Randy will have survived because his death was faked by the killers in Scream 2 because he was working with them all along. Each time Ghostface appeared it was a test run for their real goal. (Randy had to fake his death because he broke one of his own rules). The movie will end with them getting by with it (having learned from the others mistakes) and riding off in the sunset together after their successful killing spree.
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* It'll turn out that she planned the entire series of events from behind the scenes along with Randy and another character who'll be introduced in the final movie. Randy will have survived because his death was faked by the killers in Scream 2 because he was working with them all along. Each time Ghostface appeared it was a test run for their real goal. (Randy had to fake his death because he broke one of his own rules). The movie will end with them getting by with it (having learned from the others mistakes) and riding off in the sunset together after their successful killing spree.spree.
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* It's certainly possible that [[spoiler:Roman]] could have acquired the necessary voices. Everyone (except for the deceased Maureen) that had their voices on the scrambler was part of the cast and crew for "Stab 3". As the director of "Stab 3", he could record the voices (Cotton was scheduled for a cameo in the film and Gale and Dewey were consultants), so if they were around on the set, he could record their voices (or at least an approximation) and add them into his scrambler, alongside the default "Ghostface" setting. As for Maureen? [[spoiler:Roman]] stalked her for weeks, if not months. He would have had ample opportunity to record her voice.
[[WMG: The multi-voice changer seen in the third film isn't too far-fetched.]]
* It's certainly possible that [[spoiler:Roman]] could have acquired the necessary voices. Everyone (except for the deceased Maureen) that had their voices on the scrambler was part of the cast and crew for "Stab 3". As the director of "Stab 3", he could record the voices (Cotton was scheduled for a cameo in the film and Gale and Dewey were consultants), so if they were around on the set, he could record their voices (or at least an approximation) and add them into his scrambler, alongside the default "Ghostface" setting. As for Maureen? [[spoiler:Roman]] stalked her for weeks, if not months. He would have had ample opportunity to record her voice.
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** Might be a stretch, considering there's a ''Film/ Clerks'' poster in the video store where Randy works & a ''Film/ Clerks'' VHS tape at Stu's house.
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** Might be a stretch, considering there's a ''Film/ Clerks'' "Clerks" poster in the video store where Randy works & a ''Film/ Clerks'' "Clerks" VHS tape at Stu's house.
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** Might be a stretch, considering there's a ''Film/Clerks'' ''Film/ Clerks'' poster in the video store where Randy works & a ''Film/Clerks'' ''Film/ Clerks'' VHS tape at Stu's house.
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* [[spoiler: Hallie and Kirby were both the last victims before the final showdown and killer reveal, and they were both killed by their respective boyfriends, Mickey and Charlie.]]
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* Neve Campbell will be the first one killed and Drew Barrymore will be the FinalGirl.
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* [[spoiler: Mickey often carried a camera around in his hand in Scream 2, Robbie obviously takes that quality to an extreme in Scream 4. It was also revealed that Ghostface filmed all the murders, murders in Scream 2, another thing that's done in Scream 4.]]
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* [[spoiler: Olivia's death is similar to Cici Cooper's in that it takes place right across the street from the main protagonists. She's also attacked while she was on the phone and at one point the killer smashes her through glass, much like Cici. They were both also the third victims in the film, not counting "Stab" deaths.]]
* [[spoiler: Additionally Marnie shares Cici's last name and she was also thrown a glass door.]]
* [[spoiler: The fourth victims in both films, again not counting Stab deaths, received calls from the killer and later their bodies were near the news vans. Randy was found in a news vans and Rebecca was thrown onto a news van.]]
* [[spoiler: Olivia's death is similar to Cici Cooper's in that it takes place right across the street from the main protagonists. She's also attacked while she was on the phone and at one point the killer smashes her through glass, much like Cici. They were both also the third victims in the film, not counting "Stab" deaths.]]
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* Additionally Marnie shares Cici's last name and she was also thrown a glass door.
* The fourth victims in both films, again not counting Stab deaths, received calls from the killer and later their bodies were near the news vans. Randy was found in a news vans and Rebecca was thrown onto a news van.
* Rebecca and to a lesser extent Deputy Judy's interactions with Gale are very similar to that of Debbie Salt in Scream 2.
* Mickey often carried a camera around in his hand in Scream 2, Robbie obviously takes that quality to an extreme in Scream 4. It was also revealed that Ghostface filmed all the murders, another thing that's done in Scream 4.
* Hoss and Perkins' roles in the film as well as their deaths are obviously similar to that of Officers Andrews and Richards. Even down to the younger officer being killed off rather quickly and the older officer dying after from a head injury.
* Hallie and Kirby were both the last victims before the final showdown and killer reveal, and they were both killed by their respective boyfriends, Mickey and Charlie.
* Derek and Trevor, boyfriends of the "final girl" were both tied up and later shot to death.
* Both films feature a female Ghostface who betrays her male partner and kills him.
* Additionally Marnie shares Cici's last name and she was also thrown a glass door.
* The fourth victims in both films, again not counting Stab deaths, received calls from the killer and later their bodies were near the news vans. Randy was found in a news vans and Rebecca was thrown onto a news van.
* Rebecca and to a lesser extent Deputy Judy's interactions with Gale are very similar to that of Debbie Salt in Scream 2.
* Mickey often carried a camera around in his hand in Scream 2, Robbie obviously takes that quality to an extreme in Scream 4. It was also revealed that Ghostface filmed all the murders, another thing that's done in Scream 4.
* Hoss and Perkins' roles in the film as well as their deaths are obviously similar to that of Officers Andrews and Richards. Even down to the younger officer being killed off rather quickly and the older officer dying after from a head injury.
* Hallie and Kirby were both the last victims before the final showdown and killer reveal, and they were both killed by their respective boyfriends, Mickey and Charlie.
* Derek and Trevor, boyfriends of the "final girl" were both tied up and later shot to death.
* Both films feature a female Ghostface who betrays her male partner and kills him.
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* [[spoiler: Mickey often carried a camera around in his hand in Scream 2, Robbie obviously takes that quality to an extreme in Scream 4. It was also revealed that Ghostface filmed all the murders, another thing that's done in Scream
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* Olivia's death is similar to Cici Cooper's in that it takes place right across the street from the main protagonists. She's also attacked while she was on the phone and at one point the killer smashes her through glass, much like Cici. They were both also the third victims in the film, not counting "Stab" deaths.
* Additionally Marnie shares Cici's last name and she was also thrown a glass door.
* The fourth victims in both films, again not counting Stab deaths, received calls from the killer and later their bodies were near the news vans. Randy was found in a news vans and Rebecca was thrown onto a news van.
* Rebecca and to a lesser extent Deputy Judy's interactions with Gale are very similar to that of Debbie Salt in Scream 2.
* Mickey often carried a camera around in his hand in Scream 2, Robbie obviously takes that quality to an extreme in Scream 4. It was also revealed that Ghostface filmed all the murders, another thing that's done in Scream 4.
* Hoss and Perkins' roles in the film as well as their deaths are obviously similar to that of Officers Andrews and Richards. Even down to the younger officer being killed off rather quickly and the older officer dying after from a head injury.
* Hallie and Kirby were both the last victims before the final showdown and killer reveal, and they were both killed by their respective boyfriends, Mickey and Charlie.
* Derek and Trevor, boyfriends of the "final girl" were both tied up and later shot to death.
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[[spoiler: *In the all three "openings" of the Scream 4, it features a pair of characters watching or getting ready to watch a horror movie. While one is more like Phil, excited or enthusiastic to watch the film (Sherrie, Chloe, Jenny), the other is more like Maureen, in that they have a more dismissive attitude. (Trudie, Rachel, Marnie)
* Olivia's death is similar to Cici Cooper's in that it takes place right across the street from the main protagonists. She's also attacked while she was on the phone and at one point the killer smashes her through glass, much like Cici. They were both also the third victims in the film, not counting "Stab" deaths.
* Additionally Marnie shares Cici's last name and she was also thrown a glass door.
* The fourth victims in both films, again not counting Stab deaths, received calls from the killer and later their bodies were near the news vans. Randy was found in a news vans and Rebecca was thrown onto a news van.
* Rebecca and to a lesser extent Deputy Judy's interactions with Gale are very similar to that of Debbie Salt in Scream 2.
* Mickey often carried a camera around in his hand in Scream 2, Robbie obviously takes that quality to an extreme in Scream 4. It was also revealed that Ghostface filmed all the murders, another thing that's done in Scream 4.
* Hoss and Perkins' roles in the film as well as their deaths are obviously similar to that of Officers Andrews and Richards. Even down to the younger officer being killed off rather quickly and the older officer dying after from a head injury.
* Hallie and Kirby were both the last victims before the final showdown and killer reveal, and they were both killed by their respective boyfriends, Mickey and Charlie.
* Derek and Trevor, boyfriends of the "final girl" were both tied up and later shot to death.
* Both films feature a female Ghostface who betrays her male partner and kills him.]]
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** I don't think so. [[spoiler: Jill left the hospital after getting checked by the doctor, giving her time to whip out her costume and kill Rebecca; Charlie attacked Sid and Jill and killed Oliva and could've ran back home or to Robbie's home to inform him of the murder as the cops came]]. As for the strength part,[[spoiler: Jill was able to grab and throw Sidney against a glass cabinet in th hospital, lifting her a few inches of the ground]].
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** It was 3, he was supposed to be TheManBehindTheMan from prison. It isn't without merit, since Matthew Lillard (Stu) cameoed as a partygoer in the second film.
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** Due to the reveal of the back story in the third film, the first film had three killers (Billy, Stu and Roman). Many fans in real life had suspected as far back after the first film's release that there may have been a third killer due to the fact there are times where Billy and Stu couldn't have been Ghostface while certain scenes occur. With that in mind, that means the amount of killers were three in the first film, two in the second and one in the final film.
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* This may sound far-fetched, but what if someone is kidnapping Sidney's friends and brainwashing them into becoming Ghostface? Long before Billy dated Sidney, she was in an abusive and controlling relationship with a guy. She finally gained the courage to break up with him. The guy couldn't handle the fact she is dating other guys, so he hypnotized people into hating her, hoping they will kill her. He gave them motives, and planted false memories into their heads in order to throw off any suspicion from him.
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* This may sound far-fetched, but what if someone is kidnapping Sidney's friends and brainwashing them into becoming Ghostface? Long before Billy dated Sidney, she was in an abusive and controlling relationship with a guy. She finally gained the courage to break up with him. The guy couldn't handle the fact she is dating other guys, so he hypnotized people into hating her, hoping they will kill her. He gave them motives, and planted false memories into their heads in order to throw off any suspicion from him.him.
[[WMG: The Final Scream movie will have 3 killers, and Sidney will be one of them.]]
*It'll turn out that she planned the entire series of events from behind the scenes along with Randy and another character who'll be introduced in the final movie. Randy will have survived because his death was faked by the killers in Scream 2 because he was working with them all along. Each time Ghostface appeared it was a test run for their real goal. (Randy had to fake his death because he broke one of his own rules). The movie will end with them getting by with it (having learned from the others mistakes) and riding off in the sunset together after their successful killing spree.
[[WMG: The Final Scream movie will have 3 killers, and Sidney will be one of them.]]
*It'll turn out that she planned the entire series of events from behind the scenes along with Randy and another character who'll be introduced in the final movie. Randy will have survived because his death was faked by the killers in Scream 2 because he was working with them all along. Each time Ghostface appeared it was a test run for their real goal. (Randy had to fake his death because he broke one of his own rules). The movie will end with them getting by with it (having learned from the others mistakes) and riding off in the sunset together after their successful killing spree.
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[[WMG: There will be a Scream Cinematic Universe]]
A. Cinematic universes are very popular nowadays. B. The Scream films need a continuation. Sure, the Scream franchise does live on in a TV series, but it isn't the same.
* Speaking of which, the TV series could take place in the same universe as the Scream movies! Who knows? Maybe Lakewood is just a long stretch away from Woodsboro.
A. Cinematic universes are very popular nowadays. B. The Scream films need a continuation. Sure, the Scream franchise does live on in a TV series, but it isn't the same.
* Speaking of which, the TV series could take place in the same universe as the Scream movies! Who knows? Maybe Lakewood is just a long stretch away from Woodsboro.
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[[WMG: If Scream 5 really is made, it would be:]]
* A crossover between the worlds of Scream, the first two seasons of Scream: The TV Series and the reboot season of said show.
* A continuation of Scream 4.
* A complete reboot.
* A Kirby spin-off. She deserves it!
* A crossover between the worlds of Scream, the first two seasons of Scream: The TV Series and the reboot season of said show.
* A continuation of Scream 4.
* A complete reboot.
* A Kirby spin-off. She deserves it!
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* This may sound far-fetched, but what if someone is kidnapping Sidney's friends and brainwashing them into becoming Ghostface? Long before Billy dated Sidney, she was in an abusive and controlling relationship with a guy. She finally gained the courage to break up with him. The guy couldn't handle the fact she is dating other guys, so he hypnotized people into hating her, hoping they will kill her. He gave them fake motives and false memories in order to throw off any suspicion from him.
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* This may sound far-fetched, but what if someone is kidnapping Sidney's friends and brainwashing them into becoming Ghostface? Long before Billy dated Sidney, she was in an abusive and controlling relationship with a guy. She finally gained the courage to break up with him. The guy couldn't handle the fact she is dating other guys, so he hypnotized people into hating her, hoping they will kill her. He gave them fake motives motives, and planted false memories into their heads in order to throw off any suspicion from him.
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*Dewey and Sidney see each other as surrogate siblings. They won't become a couple.
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* This may sound far-fetched, but what if someone is kidnapping Sidney's friends and brainwashing them into becoming Ghostface? Long before Billy dated Sidney, she was in an abusive and controlling relationship with a guy. She finally gained the courage to break up with him. The guy couldn't handle the fact she is dating other guys, so he brainwashed hypnotized people into hating her, hoping they will kill her. He gave them fake motives and false memories.memories in order to throw off any suspicion from him.
