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[[WMG: The ship-based cast is expies of the crew of [[{{Firefly}} Serenity]].]]
You've got The Boss/Mal. A badass that will violate moral boundaries for the sake of those they're close to, and doesn't care about anyone else besides their crew. You've got Shaundi/Zoe, a hard-ass high-ranking female that rarely shows much emotion to anyone, but does have it, and will show it to those she trusts the most. You've got Gat/Jayne, a badass rough-and-tough killer who doesn't quite care for plans or anything, just shooting things and having fun, but also has an emotional side. You've got Kinzie/Kaylee, the weird but cute genius girl who is hinted to be rather kinky (Kaylee met Mal while fucking his previous engineer in the engine room, and if Kaylee doesn't sexually get off on engines, I'd be amazed). You've got Matt/Simon, the young dorky genius guy with sexual tension with the dorky female (though, the same kind between the two, but still). You've got Keith David/Shepherd Book, the older black man with a sexy voice and more wisdom than the rest of the people. The only three there's not a good parallel for are Pierce and CID on the Saints' side, and River from the Firefly side of things, although you could consider Kinzie a combined expy of River and Kaylee, which leads to EWWWW.
* [[Spoiler: Backed by the fact that Nathan Fillion is God.]]
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[[WMG:DLC will feature Dex returning]] Dex threatens to wage war on the U.S. unless his demands are met. Dex will have an army of aliens(possibly enemies of the Zin) cyborgs(think Metal Gear Rising Revengeance turned UpToEleven) and gangsters under his command. The boss(now president once again with the Earth being restored) uses the simulation along with the time travel device to recruit more allies(Donnie, Troy, Lin, Carlos, Oleg, Josh, Kiki, Viola, etc).Then the saints track down Dex to some WretchedHive city overseas called Stalwart where he rules with an iron fist. You manage to stop Dex's terrorist plans early on but get stranded in Stalwart with no transportation(Dex has a forcefield that prevents any UFos or gunships from arriving), so you then have to free the all the territories from the control of Dex's army. You get guns that have elements of your superpowers(I.E. freeze-ray, mind-control gun, TK device) along the way. When you finally confront Dex at the end, it's revealed that he was responsible for the Zin coming to earth in the first place as he found some of their technology and used it contact Zinyak and somehow convinced him to go after earth(something like he lied to Zinyak that the boss was planning to invade and/or blow up other planets and that the Zin were next, which was convincing enough to Zinyak due to your characters sociopathy and Zinyak's own ambition to be leader)

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[[WMG:DLC will feature Dex returning]] Dex threatens to wage war on the U.S. unless his demands are met. Dex will have an army of aliens(possibly enemies of the Zin) cyborgs(think Metal Gear Rising Revengeance turned UpToEleven) and gangsters under his command. The boss(now president once again with the Earth being restored) uses the simulation along with the time travel device to recruit more allies(Donnie, Troy, Lin, Carlos, Oleg, Josh, Kiki, Viola, etc).Then the saints track down Dex to some WretchedHive city overseas called Stalwart where he rules with an iron fist. You manage to stop Dex's terrorist plans early on but get stranded in Stalwart with no transportation(Dex has a forcefield that prevents any UFos [=UFOs=] or gunships from arriving), so you then have to free the all the territories from the control of Dex's army. You get guns that have elements of your superpowers(I.E. freeze-ray, mind-control gun, TK device) along the way. When you finally confront Dex at the end, it's revealed that he was responsible for the Zin coming to earth in the first place as he found some of their technology and used it contact Zinyak and somehow convinced him to go after earth(something like he lied to Zinyak that the boss was planning to invade and/or blow up other planets and that the Zin were next, which was convincing enough to Zinyak due to your characters sociopathy and Zinyak's own ambition to be leader)
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Well, there must be a reason why she was the one specifically snogging the boss in one of the VideoGame/SaintsRowIV trailers. Not to mention the ShipTease in another trailer when she thinks the boss was saying she was beautiful (he was talking about a giant robot, but still). On top of that, one of the bosses in SaintsRowTheThird confesses love for her when she says she'll swipe the Daedalus's specs in the [[spoiler: Kill Killbane]] ending.

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Well, there must be a reason why she was the one specifically snogging the boss in one of the VideoGame/SaintsRowIV ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' trailers. Not to mention the ShipTease in another trailer when she thinks the boss Boss was saying she was beautiful (he was talking about a giant robot, but still). On top of that, one of the bosses in SaintsRowTheThird ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'' confesses love for her when she says she'll swipe the Daedalus's specs in the [[spoiler: Kill Killbane]] ending.
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First of all the story will be slightly different depending on which final mission you did first if you have a game save of SaintsRowTheThird, or, if not, the game gives you a choice of whether or not [[spoiler: Shaundi is alive]]. No matter the choice, the Boss is forced to return to Stilwater either way, but the HOW is different:

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First of all the story will be slightly different depending on which final mission you did first if you have a game save of SaintsRowTheThird, ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'', or, if not, the game gives you a choice of whether or not [[spoiler: Shaundi is alive]]. No matter the choice, the Boss is forced to return to Stilwater either way, but the HOW is different:



[[spoiler: Shaundi from SaintsRowTheThird meets her old self from SaintsRow2, so at the very least it will be touched upon.

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[[spoiler: Shaundi from SaintsRowTheThird ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'' meets her old self from SaintsRow2, ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'', so at the very least it will be touched upon.



[[WMG: SaintsRowIV will be a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.]]
* Alien invasion. Ramping up the emotion. Reliving traumatic events. Atlas mechs. KeithDavid teaming up with who you can make Shepard. It's pretty much inevitable.

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[[WMG: SaintsRowIV ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' will be a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.]]
* Alien invasion. Ramping up the emotion. Reliving traumatic events. Atlas mechs. KeithDavid Creator/KeithDavid teaming up with who you can make Shepard. It's pretty much inevitable.



* No shit right? However like the third game you have to make choices. Well SaintsRowIV look to be going for more emotional punch. In the third game you had to choose whether to sacrifice her to kill Killbane. In the fourth there's two Shaundis. What if you could only save one and that determined to some extent the ending?

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* No shit right? However like the third game you have to make choices. Well SaintsRowIV ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' look to be going for more emotional punch. In the third game you had to choose whether to sacrifice her to kill Killbane. In the fourth there's two Shaundis. What if you could only save one and that determined to some extent the ending?
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** This makes sense if you take the Dance Party Ending and Enter the Dominatrix as depicted; Zinyak is just an actor playing his part (whether in a suit or an actual alien) and otherwise gets along with the crew. To go with the below, Saints Row V could be the rise of The Boss to the actual Presidency.
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[[WMG: Any post-ending DLC will feature [[spoiler:JaneAusten as a homie.]]]]

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[[WMG: Any post-ending DLC will feature [[spoiler:JaneAusten [[spoiler:Creator/JaneAusten as a homie.]]]]
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*** Confirmed, in Gat Out Of Hell you are "finally going to be able to kill dex".

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Alternately, after taking a beating from Gat, Zinyak teleported straight to his time machine and headed back. The reason he couldn't do that when the Boss started beating on him (and thus had to rely on his giant mech) was because Kinzie and King's plan to destabilize the simulation had also damaged the time machine and he wouldn't have been able to fix it quickly enough to escape from a power-armored badass whose VoiceWithAnInternetConnection friend could track his every move.


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* Alternately, after taking a beating from Gat, Zinyak teleported straight to his time machine and headed back. The reason he couldn't do that when the Boss started beating on him (and thus had to rely on his giant mech) was because Kinzie and King's plan to destabilize the simulation had also damaged the time machine and he wouldn't have been able to fix it quickly enough to escape from a power-armored badass whose VoiceWithAnInternetConnection friend could track his every move.
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[[WMG: The events of ''Saints Row IV'' are actually a movie: a follow-up to ''Gangsters in Space''.]]
Similar to the theory that ''WMG/SuperMarioBros3'' is actually a play, SRIV is actually a big-budget movie riding on the success of ''Gangsters in Space''.
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[[WMG: The ending forms a mild StableTimeLoop]]
I like to imagine that some ancient Frankish king found some old graffiti left by a Saint and liked it, thus later inspiring the Fleur-de-Lis iconography the Saints ended up recursively adopting.
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[[WMG: The whole game is Zinyak's personal hell]]
* After getting the simulation up and running and testing it on Zinjai, he decided to go through it himself, just to prove to the Empire and himself that his mind was unbreakable. Unfortunately for him, his nightmare involved seeing his empire crushed and ultimately being murdered by puny humans, and Zinjai sabotaged the machine so that he'd fall victim to YourMindMakesItReal.
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Alternately, after taking a beating from Gat, Zinyak teleported straight to his time machine and headed back. The reason he couldn't do that when the Boss started beating on him (and thus had to rely on his giant mech) was because Kinzie and King's plan to destabilize the simulation had also damaged the time machine and he wouldn't have been able to fix it quickly enough to escape from a power-armored badass whose VoiceWithAnInternetConnection friend could track his every move.
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** Given the sheer mayhem the Boss causes, the Boss as an Avatar of Khorne is more likely.

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[[WMG: Saints Row V speculation.]]
* A prequel focusing on Julius and Ben King and the Origins of the Saints.
* A [[spoiler: Time Travel Quest, involving, saving Aisha, and saving Johnny from being abducted by Zinyak.]]
* A StealthSequel, advertised as a reboot with a new protagonist, [[spoiler: with Earth somehow restored.]]
* An alternate continuity sequel ignoring [=SRTT=] and [=SRIV=]
* Given Deep Silver taking the reigns and putting in a couple of [[ShoutOut Shout Outs]] to [[DeadIsland a certain game]] there'll be a part where we get to do to [[spoiler: Charon]] what we would have really loved to do in that game.
* It'll be revealed that [[spoiler: Earth's destruction]] was a simulation for ultimate emotional torture and when the Saints go home, they are public enemy number one because [[spoiler: Dex has used resources to take over the world in the Saints absence.]] So basically a larger scale SR2.
** Or if they aren't joking with the ''DeadIsland'' crossover, it'll be revealed that the events of the first two DI games took place in the Saints absence. The Boss will have the ability to telepathiclly fuse himself/herself to a playable character in Dead Island, fusing the player traditions of both games.



[[WMG: If there is another game, it will be an alternate universe where the Kill Killbane ending of SR3 is canon.]]
It would basically be a gritty reboot/sequel that would return the franchise back to its gangster roots. Saints Row 4 could be some sort of fan fiction written by someone. Matt Miller maybe, or even the protagonist. Johnny stays dead, Shaundi is dead, and the Boss would be on a downward trajectory of sorts.
** Semi-Confirmed for "Enter the Dominatix", which opens with Pierce as Mayor of Steelport, and Shaundi understandably saying [[KilledOffForReal it was the worst idea they had]]... [[UnexplainedRecovery In spite of being alive and well when the Zin lay siege to Steelport]].



[[WMG: Saints row V will feature SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as it's key component]]
The entire storyline consists of using the time machine to head to the Boss pre-invasion and giving him a set of notes, but if two of the same person are in a room, reality breaks, so the Saints have to run around themselves.

Except Gat.

The problem? Time Machine's half-busted and fixing it inovlves running across space and time stealing stuff from everywhere, getting back from malfunctioned attempts, and hijinks.



* The Boss ran as candidate of the "Ain't No Party Like A 3rd Street Saints" party.

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* The Boss ran as candidate of the "Ain't No Party Like A 3rd Street Saints" party.party.
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[[WMG: Saints Row V speculation.]]
* A prequel focusing on Julius and Ben King and the Origins of the Saints.
* A [[spoiler: Time Travel Quest, involving, saving Aisha, and saving Johnny from being abducted by Zinyak.]]
* A StealthSequel, advertised as a reboot with a new protagonist, [[spoiler: with Earth somehow restored.]]
* An alternate continuity sequel ignoring [=SRTT=] and [=SRIV=]
* Given Deep Silver taking the reigns and putting in a couple of [[ShoutOut Shout Outs]] to [[DeadIsland a certain game]] there'll be a part where we get to do to [[spoiler: Charon]] what we would have really loved to do in that game.
* It'll be revealed that [[spoiler: Earth's destruction]] was a simulation for ultimate emotional torture and when the Saints go home, they are public enemy number one because [[spoiler: Dex has used resources to take over the world in the Saints absence.]] So basically a larger scale SR2.
** Or if they aren't joking with the ''DeadIsland'' crossover, it'll be revealed that the events of the first two DI games took place in the Saints absence. The Boss will have the ability to telepathiclly fuse himself/herself to a playable character in Dead Island, fusing the player traditions of both games.

[[WMG: If there is another game, it will be an alternate universe where the Kill Killbane ending of SR3 is canon.]]
It would basically be a gritty reboot/sequel that would return the franchise back to its gangster roots. Saints Row 4 could be some sort of fan fiction written by someone. Matt Miller maybe, or even the protagonist. Johnny stays dead, Shaundi is dead, and the Boss would be on a downward trajectory of sorts.
** Semi-Confirmed for "Enter the Dominatix", which opens with Pierce as Mayor of Steelport, and Shaundi understandably saying [[KilledOffForReal it was the worst idea they had]]... [[UnexplainedRecovery In spite of being alive and well when the Zin lay siege to Steelport]].

[[WMG: Saints row V will feature SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as it's key component]]
The entire storyline consists of using the time machine to head to the Boss pre-invasion and giving him a set of notes, but if two of the same person are in a room, reality breaks, so the Saints have to run around themselves.

Except Gat.

The problem? Time Machine's half-busted and fixing it inovlves running across space and time stealing stuff from everywhere, getting back from malfunctioned attempts, and hijinks.

[[WMG: Saints Row V will be Saint's Row: The Western]]
As a riff on RedDeadRedemption, steampunk, and other such things, taking place in a Stilwater that's still recently settled. The player will be the Boss's ancestor, and leader of an earlier incarnation of the Saints as an outlaw gang.

[[spoiler:To tie back to the earlier games, with the introduction of TimeTravel at the end of Saints Row IV, maybe the final BigBad is a supporter/relative of Zinyak who's trying to invoke a GrandfatherParadox on the Boss by going back in time to kill their ancestor, thus ensuring that the Saints never thwart the Zin invasion. Of course, this could lead to Saints from the present day also going back in time to stop him, and becoming the past Boss's homies.]]

[[spoiler:Bonus points if all this mucking around in time [[NiceJobFixingItVillain changes history]] to accelerate Earth's technological growth so that, by the time Zinyak shows up to invade, his ship is blown away by a purple spaceship with gold spinners, which the Saints then use to conquer the Zin homeworld...]]



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* A smear campaign against the Boss stated that the world [[HarsherInHindsight would be destroyed if s/he got elected.]]

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* A smear campaign against the Boss stated that the world [[HarsherInHindsight would be destroyed if s/he got elected.]]]]
* The Boss ran as candidate of the "Ain't No Party Like A 3rd Street Saints" party.
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Think about it. He captues Gat several years before the events of [=SRIV=], because the first time he tried to invade the planet, He met resistance from The Saints, and concluded that Gat was the greatest warrior. Zinyak fails at applying trial and error against the boss because it takes too long for him to realize how big a threat the boss really is. Huge mistake, which costs Zinyak his life and emipre.

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Think about it. He captues Gat several years before the events of [=SRIV=], because the first time he tried to invade the planet, He met resistance from The Saints, and concluded that Gat was the greatest warrior. Zinyak fails at applying trial and error against the boss because it takes too long for him to realize how big a threat the boss really is. Huge mistake, which costs Zinyak his life and emipre.
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OP here with an elaboration on the guess: Originally, the bank heist goes south like in the [=SRTT=] beginning, however Gat isn't captured by Zinyak. From that, Loren dies on the plane and the Syndicate gets more or less curbstomped, which includes the death of Miller and Viola. Whether or not Kinzie, Oleg, Zimos or Angel joins is anyone's guess. The Saints decide to tune down their media whoring and stay strong during the five years between the two games. At this point, The Saints has taken over several cities, maybe even claimed independence from the United States. Here Zinyak invades, and quickly ends up in a fight with Gat who kicks his ass and possibly kills him. Zinjai, [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow not sure if Gat is any better than Zinyak]], uses time travel to go back and make sure Zinyak takes Gat out of the equation before the invasion. If the boss completes all the loyalty missions, Zinjai realizes that his new boss treats his crew well and decides to join the boss instead of Zinyak.
If the boss hadn't chosen to do the loyalty missions, Zinjai will simply travel back in time, tell Zinyak that not only Gat, but also boss and perhaps Kinzie needs to be removed from the equation - then they will succeed in taking Earth.
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* This make's Kinzie's cyber-nightmare even more extremely creepy than it was, given that she was ''married to him''.

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* This make's Kinzie's cyber-nightmare even more extremely creepy than it was, given that she was ''married ''[[ParentalIncest married to him''.
him]]''.



An smear campaign against the Boss stated that the world [[HarsherInHindsight would be destroyed during his/her administration.]]

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An * A smear campaign against the Boss stated that the world [[HarsherInHindsight would be destroyed during his/her administration.if s/he got elected.]]
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The problem? Time Machine's half-busted and fixing it inovlves running across space and time stealing stuff from everywhere, getting back from malfunctioned attempts, and hijinks.

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The problem? Time Machine's half-busted and fixing it inovlves running across space and time stealing stuff from everywhere, getting back from malfunctioned attempts, and hijinks.hijinks.

[[WMG: The Boss's Presidency]]
An smear campaign against the Boss stated that the world [[HarsherInHindsight would be destroyed during his/her administration.]]
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Think about it. He captues Gat several years before the events of [=SRIV=], because the first time he tried to invade the planet, He met resistance from The Saints, and concluded that Gat was the greatest warrior. Zinyak fails at applying trial and error against the boss because it takes too long for him to realize how big a threat the boss really is. Huge mistake, which costs Zinyak his life and emipre.

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Think about it. He captues Gat several years before the events of [=SRIV=], because the first time he tried to invade the planet, He met resistance from The Saints, and concluded that Gat was the greatest warrior. Zinyak fails at applying trial and error against the boss because it takes too long for him to realize how big a threat the boss really is. Huge mistake, which costs Zinyak his life and emipre.emipre.

[[WMG: Saints row V will feature SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as it's key component]]
The entire storyline consists of using the time machine to head to the Boss pre-invasion and giving him a set of notes, but if two of the same person are in a room, reality breaks, so the Saints have to run around themselves.

Except Gat.

The problem? Time Machine's half-busted and fixing it inovlves running across space and time stealing stuff from everywhere, getting back from malfunctioned attempts, and hijinks.
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When he replies that he doesn't swing that way in response to the Boss' suggestion to casual sex, he means that he dislikes having sex without a meaningful and romantic relationship with it. But the Boss is a generally charming and powerful person, so he couldn't resist.

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When he replies that he doesn't swing that way in response to the Boss' suggestion to casual sex, he means that he dislikes having sex without a meaningful and romantic relationship with it. But the Boss is a generally charming and powerful person, so he couldn't resist.resist.

[[WMG: One of the ways Zinyak conquers so many planets, is by trial and error]]
Think about it. He captues Gat several years before the events of [=SRIV=], because the first time he tried to invade the planet, He met resistance from The Saints, and concluded that Gat was the greatest warrior. Zinyak fails at applying trial and error against the boss because it takes too long for him to realize how big a threat the boss really is. Huge mistake, which costs Zinyak his life and emipre.
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** Confirmed, in that they both get grabbed by [[spoiler: [[BastardBoyfriend Veteran Child]]]], and a SadisticChoice is presented... [[spoiler: but Jossed when then they both go "[[MeaningfulEcho Fuck. That.]]", and mutually finish him off, [[BadassDamsel all without your help]].]]

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** Confirmed, in that they both get grabbed by [[spoiler: [[BastardBoyfriend Veteran Child]]]], and a SadisticChoice is presented... [[spoiler: but Jossed when then they both go "[[MeaningfulEcho Fuck. That.]]", and mutually finish him off, [[BadassDamsel [[DamselOutOfDistress all without your help]].]]
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** Semi-Confirmed for "Enter the Dominatix", which opens with Pierce as Mayor of Steelport, and Shaundi understandably saying [[KilledOffForReal it was the worst idea they had]]... [[UnexplainedRecovery In spite of being alive and well when the Zin lay siege to Steelport]].
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*** [[spoiler: Half-confirmed, it's more of a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' - The game even has loyalty missions and parodies the romance options]]
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It would basically be a gritty reboot/sequel that would return the franchise back to its gangster roots. Saints Row 4 could be some sort of fan fiction written by someone. Matt Miller maybe, or even the protagonist. Johnny stays dead, Shaundi is dead, and the Boss would be on a downward trajectory of sorts.

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It would basically be a gritty reboot/sequel that would return the franchise back to its gangster roots. Saints Row 4 could be some sort of fan fiction written by someone. Matt Miller maybe, or even the protagonist. Johnny stays dead, Shaundi is dead, and the Boss would be on a downward trajectory of sorts.sorts.

[[WMG: Pierce just hates casual sex.]]
When he replies that he doesn't swing that way in response to the Boss' suggestion to casual sex, he means that he dislikes having sex without a meaningful and romantic relationship with it. But the Boss is a generally charming and powerful person, so he couldn't resist.
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Just Throwing it out here, It's said that ETD happens in [[spoiler: an alternative Zin Invasion storyline, Where the Saints are trapped in a simulation ran by an AI program known as the Dominatrix.]] so there is open room for the chance to Meet the King, Bonus Points if we find out that the King is Cid and Twice the Points if [[spoiler: Cid is a Raptor]]

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Just Throwing it out here, It's said that ETD happens in [[spoiler: an alternative Zin Invasion storyline, Where the Saints are trapped in a simulation ran by an AI program known as the Dominatrix.]] so there is open room for the chance to Meet the King, Bonus Points if we find out that the King is Cid and Twice the Points if [[spoiler: Cid is a Raptor]]Raptor]]

[[WMG: Future DLCs will shows the Saints messing with history.]]
A lot of signs point to this being the last game in the series, but the fans and developers still show a lot of interest in the game. One fun continuation would be for the player to get to travel back to different periods throughout earth's history to rescue his/her favorite historical figures.

[[WMG: If there is another game, it will be an alternate universe where the Kill Killbane ending of SR3 is canon.]]
It would basically be a gritty reboot/sequel that would return the franchise back to its gangster roots. Saints Row 4 could be some sort of fan fiction written by someone. Matt Miller maybe, or even the protagonist. Johnny stays dead, Shaundi is dead, and the Boss would be on a downward trajectory of sorts.

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* The BigBad will be [[spoiler: a Nazi that followed the Saints throughout thier time travel adventures creating timelines where the Nazi's rule the world and probebly the universe, with STAG and Zin techonogy.]]




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* It'll be revealed that [[spoiler: Earth's destruction]] was a simulation for ultimate emotional torture and when the Saints go home, they are public enemy number one because [[spoiler: Dex has used resources to take over the world in the Saints absence.]] So basically a larger scale SR2.
** Or if they aren't joking with the ''DeadIsland'' crossover, it'll be revealed that the events of the first two DI games took place in the Saints absence. The Boss will have the ability to telepathiclly fuse himself/herself to a playable character in Dead Island, fusing the player traditions of both games.
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** Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have [=ME3=]'s Gainax Downer Ending parodied.

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** Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have [=ME3=]'s ''Mass Effect 3''[='s=] Gainax Downer Ending parodied.
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** Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have ME3's Gainax Downer Ending parodied.

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** Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have ME3's [=ME3=]'s Gainax Downer Ending parodied.
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** This ''may'' actually be confirmed since there ''are'' audio logs of both Donnie and Lin hidden in SR4's game files.

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