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[[WMG:The Erlkönig's reappearance is for some reason he needs a heir badly.]]
He already called Jareth his (possible) heir in the ''Kid!Jareth arc'' despite having a daughter, so he probably believes in the HeirClubForMen rule. He already tried all in his power to extort favors from his son (''Such Stuff...'', the ''Erlkönig arc'' could be a failed attempt for this too), pay a hell lot to ensure that he can introduce the guy to his friends (''TheWildHunt arc''), get in position that could be interpreted as him doing a favor to demand payment later (the beginning and end of the ''Dark!Jareth arc'' for example).
* If we give credence to a the later WMG that Jareth might be what the human child became he canonically stole the ''Erlkönig arc'' takes on an even darker interpretation.

[[WMG:Jareth is the human boy from Literature/TheErlking]]
The Erlkönig only has daughter(s) canonically also even Jareth threatened Sarah with turning Toby into a goblin... what if that's a power that runs in the family?

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* So it happened and {{Jossed}}. Jareth is mighty pleased with Javert's new hight and haircut.

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* So it happened [[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-298-Short-349741451 happened]] and {{Jossed}}. Jareth is mighty pleased with Javert's new hight height... and haircut.
[[AffectionateGestureToTheHead haircut]].



** But the two Erlkönig incarnation's hight (the Dresden version is inhumanly tall, the Building-verse one is average) and color scheme (Green-Brown vs. Blue-Purple) doesn't match though.

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* He also appeared in the 12th an 14th books and Dresden to date survived so this is entirely possible. (There are also some other amusing coincidences[[note]][[WordOfGod Word of Ashe]] that (s)he only read some of the early books not the whole series and even less the Word of Jim information.[[/note]] like he is one of the possible leaders of TheWildHunt, he isn't a HornedHumanoid there either it's just his crown / helmet, and he is considered a one of the summer kings in the Dresden-verse (according to Jim Butcher) and also Ashe placed him on that side. The two Erlkönig incarnation's hight and color scheme doesn't match though.)

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* He also appeared in the 12th an 14th books and Dresden to date survived so this is entirely possible. (There There are also some other amusing coincidences[[note]][[WordOfGod Word of Ashe]] that (s)he only read some of the early books not the whole series and even less the Word of Jim information.[[/note]] like like:
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he is one of the possible leaders of TheWildHunt, TheWildHunt,
** he is a hunting buddy of [[spoiler:Odin]],
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he isn't a HornedHumanoid there either it's just his crown / helmet, and helmet,
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he is considered a one of the summer kings in the Dresden-verse (according to Jim Butcher) and also Ashe placed him on that side. The side.
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two Erlkönig incarnation's hight (the Dresden version is inhumanly tall, the Building-verse one is average) and color scheme (Green-Brown vs. Blue-Purple) doesn't match though.)

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*[[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d5n0uen Disbelief]], or [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve being forgotten]], has been confirmed.




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* He might actually be happy about [[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=312#/d143sj8 his height]].
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* He also appeared in the 12th an 14th books and Dresden to date survived so this is entirely possible. (There are also some other amusing coincidences[[note]][[WordOfGod Word of Ashe]] that (s)he only read some of the early books not the whole series and even less the Word of Jim information.[[/note]] like he isn't a HornedHumanoid there either it's just his crown / helmet, and he is considered a one of the summer kings in the Dresden-verse (according to Jim Butcher) and also Ashe placed him there. The two Erlkönig incarnation's hight and color scheme doesn't match though.)

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* He also appeared in the 12th an 14th books and Dresden to date survived so this is entirely possible. (There are also some other amusing coincidences[[note]][[WordOfGod Word of Ashe]] that (s)he only read some of the early books not the whole series and even less the Word of Jim information.[[/note]] like he is one of the possible leaders of TheWildHunt, he isn't a HornedHumanoid there either it's just his crown / helmet, and he is considered a one of the summer kings in the Dresden-verse (according to Jim Butcher) and also Ashe placed him there.on that side. The two Erlkönig incarnation's hight and color scheme doesn't match though.)

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[[WMG:There will be an omake where Jareth is outraged by Javert's new actor]

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[[WMG:Dresden will encounter Jareth's dad sometime, and it will be amusing]
In the fourth Dresden book, Harry encounters the Erlking and summons him himself. The Erlkonig promises the next time they meet, it won't be pretty. Amusingly enough, the Council sees the Erlkonig as the leader of goblins...

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\n* I think his problem is that not only does Erik get new actors but younger and younger ones. While he is ''stuck'' with Bowie at age 39.

[[WMG:Dresden will encounter Jareth's dad sometime, and it will be amusing]
amusing]]
In the fourth Dresden book, Harry encounters the Erlking and summons him himself. The Erlkonig promises the next time they meet, it won't be pretty. Amusingly enough, the Council sees the Erlkonig as the leader of goblins...goblins...
* He also appeared in the 12th an 14th books and Dresden to date survived so this is entirely possible. (There are also some other amusing coincidences[[note]][[WordOfGod Word of Ashe]] that (s)he only read some of the early books not the whole series and even less the Word of Jim information.[[/note]] like he isn't a HornedHumanoid there either it's just his crown / helmet, and he is considered a one of the summer kings in the Dresden-verse (according to Jim Butcher) and also Ashe placed him there. The two Erlkönig incarnation's hight and color scheme doesn't match though.)
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[[WMG:There will be an omake where Jareth is outraged by Javert's new actor]
We all know he hates it when Eric gets new actors, why not Javert?

[[WMG:Dresden will encounter Jareth's dad sometime, and it will be amusing]
In the fourth Dresden book, Harry encounters the Erlking and summons him himself. The Erlkonig promises the next time they meet, it won't be pretty. Amusingly enough, the Council sees the Erlkonig as the leader of goblins...
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[[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-287-Consume-338574618 This page]] and comes with two hints "the one thing every character ever written, played, sung about, or dreamed about has to fear" and "??? belongs to ???"
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** ...[[KingArthur Mordred]]
** ...The ancient Nazi leader from Manga/{{Hellsing}}
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** ...[[Literature/TheForbiddenGame Julian]]
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* ...The Audience / [[{{fandom}} The Fans]]
* ...The [[AuthorAvatar Author]]
* ...A [[ChildrenAreCruel Chi]][[TeensAreMonsters ld]]
* ...Creator/JossWhedon or Creator/StevenMoffat
* ...[[MercedesLackey Shadowlover]]
* ...[[FullMetalAlchemist Truth or Pride]]
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** ...[[{{fandom}} The fans]]
** ...A FanFiction *cough*SlashFic*cough* writer
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[[MercedesLackey Shadowlover]]
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** ...[[TheCthulhuMythos Cthulhu]]



** ...[[EndingTropes The End]]
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* ...The Audience.

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[[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-287-Consume-338574618 This page]] and comes with two hints "the one thing every character ever written, played, sung about, or dreamed about has to fear" and "??? belongs to ???"
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* ...The Audience.Audience / [[{{fandom}} The Fans]]



* ...A [[ChildrenAreCruel Chi]][[TeensAreMonsters ld]]
* ...Creator/JossWhedon or Creator/StevenMoffat
* ...[[MercedesLackey Shadowlover]]



* ...The AnthropomorphicPersonificationOf:

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** ...[[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve being forgotten]]

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** ...[[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve being forgotten]]Being forgotten]] and/or MainstreamObscurity
** ...[[EndingTropes The End]]
** ...Failure
** ...Writer's Block
** ...[[TheGrimReaper Death]] (admittedly one of the less likely suggestions)
** ...[[IKnowWhatYouFear Fear]]
** ...[[WhatYouAreInTheDark Themselves]]
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[[WMG:And the child born of shadows is...]]
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* ...The Audience.
* ...The [[AuthorAvatar Author]]
* ...[[FullMetalAlchemist Truth or Pride]]
* ...A MarySue / GaryStu
* ...The AnthropomorphicPersonificationOf:
** ...{{Fanservice}}
** ...[[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve being forgotten]]
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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that separates a CrapsackWorld from AWorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.

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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that separates a CrapsackWorld from AWorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you. As with hope in general he can also be [[HopeIsScary scary]] or [[HopeSpot treacherous]].
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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that separates a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.

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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that separates a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, AWorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.
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** With this in mind his Dark!Side would make the opposite, total fatalism.

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** * With this in mind his Dark!Side would make the opposite, total fatalism.
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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that parts a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.

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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that parts separates a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.
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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the RousingSpeeches, but the one that parts a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding and ScrewDestiny etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.

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Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the RousingSpeeches, {{Rousing Speech}}es, but the one that parts a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding and EarnYourHappyEnding, ScrewDestiny or at least survive against all odds etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.

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[[WMG: After the ''Dreams'' arc, Jareth will be skittish around Sarah...]]

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[[WMG: Dark!Jareth will be easily defeated in the ''Dreams'' arc]]

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[[WMG: The zombie invasion ended because Dresden reverted to his ''Changes'' characterization offscreen]]

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[[WMG: The Building is Jareth's new castle and the 'verse his domain.]]

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[[WMG: TheFairFolk of this series and the Trolls of Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} are related species.]]

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[[WMG:Jareth is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of small [[HopeSpringsEternal hope]].]]
Not the big one that everybody wants to be, not a hero or messiah the one with the RousingSpeeches, but the one that parts a CrapsackWorld from a WorldHalfFull, the one that says you should [[{{Determinator}} never give up]] to hell with AllTheOtherReindeer (or what kind of loser you may be), that implies that you can EarnYourHappyEnding and ScrewDestiny etc. ... and even if you fail or die, there will be someone to remember you.
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** Jossed. All three!

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* Pretty much confirmed by [[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-280-Invitation-330169918 this]].
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What we saw from the Erkönig's relationships: They are more similar to [[FoeYay kismesis]] than anything else.

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What we saw from the Erkönig's relationships: They are more similar to [[FoeYay kismesis]] than anything else.
else. He also [[TheTease flirts]] with AnythingThatMoves.
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Theory created through the careful observing of their (mostly Jareth's) relationship habits. He don't seem to have so much against "infidelity" between the quadrants but seems to have a quite similar relationship structure.//

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Theory created through the careful observing of their (mostly Jareth's) relationship habits. Even if they don't seem to have so much against "infidelity" between the quadrants.//
So Jareth:
* His moirail is James.
* His matesprit would be Sarah if Jareth could get what he wished.
* His kismesis
* His auspistice

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Theory created through the careful observing of their (mostly Jareth's) relationship habits. Even if they He don't seem to have so much against "infidelity" between the quadrants.//
quadrants but seems to have a quite similar relationship structure.//

So Jareth:
if Jareth was a troll:
* His moirail is [[MuggleBestFriend moi]][[MoralityPet rail]] would be James.
* His matesprit [[LoveInterests mate]][[MoralityChain sprit]] would be Sarah if (if Jareth could get what he wished.
wished).
* His kismesis
[[FoeYay kismesis]] would be either Erik or Sarah (the later is especially what his dark side would like)
* His auspistice
[[ThereAreNoTherapists auspistice]] is the trickiest of all as he plays this with all his friends when needed.

What we saw from the Erkönig's relationships: They are more similar to [[FoeYay kismesis]] than anything else.

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* James is definitely in the pale red. "Like Family"
* Sarah is either bla

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habits. Even if they don't seem to have so much against "infidelity" between the quadrants.//
So Jareth:
* James is definitely in the pale red. "Like Family"
* Sarah is either bla
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Theory created through the careful observing of their (mostly Jareth's) relationship habits.
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[[WMG:[[Characters/TheNostalgiaChick The Makeover Fairy]] is Jareth's long lost (half-)sister from his father's side!]]

They both InstantCosplaySurprise for no apparent reasons, appear when you least expect them, have some questionable quirks of taste ([[color:fuchsia:pink]] vs. [[EverythingsBetterWithSparkles glitter]]) the list goes on and on.

From his father side: If [[Literature/TheErlKing der Erlkönig]] decides that you need a makeover he won't stop with just you. [[UpToEleven THE WHOLE WORLD GETS IT!]] (As much as we can see from the published parts of the 2012 MindScrew arc anyway.)

[[WMG:[[TangledFamilyTree The magic family tree]] is the unholy bastard child of an elaborate Celtic Knot and the TimeyWimeyBall.]]

Just look at it! And why not? This is a place where personifications of dreams and concepts can walk amongst the {{muggle}}s.

[[WMG: After the ''Dreams'' arc, Jareth will be skittish around Sarah...]]

...both because of her being creepily impersonated by Odile and because he wonders if it's his obsessiveness with her that prevents him from the CharacterDevelopment needed to stop being a villain (or at least be so bad at being good). He'll get over it eventually, probably with some furthering of his character, and Sarah may allow him a date (or at least have missed him).

[[WMG: Dark!Jareth will be easily defeated in the ''Dreams'' arc]]

This isn't so much the post of one person, it's been noted by everyone on DeviantArt's forums. Jareth was not cast as the villain in the story of his dream, so his SuperpoweredEvilSide can't use his 'go with the story at all costs' FreudianExcuse.
* Ummm... but it is. Namely [[Tropers/{{Malitia}} mine]] I just like to comment a lot. (Most people people bet on ArmorPiercingSlap or a ShutUpKiss by Sarah.)
** Jossed. All three!

[[WMG: The zombie invasion ended because Dresden reverted to his ''Changes'' characterization offscreen]]
I can't be the only one annoyed that all the zombies disappeared with no explanation. So I'm going to say that either [[DresdenFiles Harry Dresden]] or [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] figured out a way to make them all re-dead. After all, those two do have something of a track record when it comes to genocide...
* Not really without explanation if you read [[WordOfGod the Artist comments]] (poor zombies were no match for the combined powers of the residents) but it's still an OffScreenMomentOfAwesome.

[[WMG: The Building is Jareth's new castle and the 'verse his domain.]]
[[WordOfGod Word of Ashe]] that "[[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-Such-Stuff-as-Dreams-Are-Made-On-41-305658205 ...every magical "court" has a theme... The Goblins are "unwanted".]]". Now this place is full with story rejects, (fallen sympathetic villains, under-appreciated "heroes", supporting characters sacrificed for the sake of someone else's story etc.) who fit the description quite nicely. Jareth doesn't own the place literally but it's his metaphysical / mystical domain, even if the residents are clueless about it... it's okay he was never big on ruling things anyway. This also explains why is he so [[{{Protectorate}} territorial about the place and it's residents]].
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