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* The way I always justified the Sun not rising is because it was mad at the farm animals for taunting and teasing Chanticleer to the point where he left and it decided to punish them by refusing to come out and taking a long nap until Chant came back and hearing his crowing would alert the sun that he was back and that the farm animals had apologized to him. Hey it's the only reason I can think of why it would come up and then set again and not rise again, I mean I guess when it rose without the crowing it saw the taunting and teasing and decided to punish the animals like that.
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* The way I always justified the Sun not rising is because it was mad at the farm animals for taunting and teasing Chanticleer to the point where he left and it decided to punish them by refusing to come out and taking a long nap until Chant came back and hearing his crowing would alert the sun that he was back and that the farm animals had apologized to him. Hey it's the only reason I can think of why it would come up and then set again and not rise again, I mean I guess when it rose without the crowing it saw the taunting and teasing and decided to punish the animals like that.him.
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[[WMG: The Duke is actually an EldritchAbomination]]
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[[WMG: The reason the sun didn't rise...]]
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[[WMG: The Grand Duke made the movie non-sensical and a flop.]]
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[[WMG: Don Bluth casted Toby Scott Ganger in the lead because he reminded him of Judith Barsi]]
* He was a child actor with a cloyingly cute speech impediment]], and Bluth wanted him to carry on her legacy by playing the RidiculouslyCuteCritter in his first movie after her death.
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** Because he loses in the end?
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Just wanted to preserve that this argument exists, is awful, but glorious
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[[WMG: It really ''is'' a good movie ...]]
It's just so ahead of its time that most people won't appreciate it until 20+ years from now.
* Nice try, troper, but it's been over twenty years since it was released. Unless you meant good in a SoBadItsGood kind of way, then no, it's still mostly considered to be just okay at best.
** Where did that WMG say anything about twenty years since its release? They clearly meant twenty years from now, like they said. Once the movie is forty years old, people will begin to appreciate it.
*** So far so good, the movie's cult following keeps getting bigger.
It's just so ahead of its time that most people won't appreciate it until 20+ years from now.
* Nice try, troper, but it's been over twenty years since it was released. Unless you meant good in a SoBadItsGood kind of way, then no, it's still mostly considered to be just okay at best.
** Where did that WMG say anything about twenty years since its release? They clearly meant twenty years from now, like they said. Once the movie is forty years old, people will begin to appreciate it.
*** So far so good, the movie's cult following keeps getting bigger.
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*** So far so good, the movie's cult following keeps getting bigger.
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* There's a [[https://www.amazon.com/Cock-Doodle-Dudley-Bill-Peet/dp/0395657458 children's book]] with a story which this Troper always applied to this movie. The sun doesn't actually NEED a rooster crowing to rise; it just likes that roosters do that. So just like in the book, when Chanticleer stopped crowing altogether, the sun's feelings were hurt, and it decided not to rise out of spite. When Chanticleer crowed again, the sun forgave him and rose.
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* There's a [[https://www.amazon.com/Cock-Doodle-Dudley-Bill-Peet/dp/0395657458 children's book]] with a story which this Troper always applied to this movie. The sun doesn't actually NEED a rooster crowing to rise; it just likes that roosters do that. So just like in the book, when Chanticleer stopped crowing altogether, the sun's feelings were hurt, and it decided not to rise out of spite.spite ("If that nice rooster's not gonna crow, then I'm not coming up!"). When Chanticleer crowed again, the sun forgave him and rose.
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* There's a [[https://www.amazon.com/Cock-Doodle-Dudley-Bill-Peet/dp/0395657458 children's book]] with a story which this Troper always applied to this movie. The sun doesn't actually NEED a rooster crowing to rise; it just likes that roosters do that. So just like in the book, when Chanticleer stopped crowing altogether, the sun's feelings were hurt, and it decided not to rise out of spite. When Chanticleer crowed again, the sun forgave him and rose.
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* Chanticleer's crowing was the sun's alarm clock. Once, the sun woke up early, and decided to go back to sleep. She kept sleeping, until the [[PowerOfRock]] woke her up.
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* Chanticleer's crowing was the sun's alarm clock. Once, the sun woke up early, and decided to go back to sleep. She kept sleeping, until the [[PowerOfRock]] PowerOfRock woke her up.
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* But why would The Grand Duke want a movie he stars in to flop?
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The rest of the movie is the bizarre afterlife he created for himself.
* That, or it's [[AdventuresInComaland what goes through his comatose brain as he's laying on the floor dying]], having suffered severe head trauma. When the credits roll, he's finally dead, explaining the outlandish and nonsensical ending that cuts off abruptly.
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The rest of the movie is the bizarre afterlife or DyingDream he created for himself.
*That, or it's It's [[AdventuresInComaland what goes through his comatose brain as he's laying on the floor dying]], having suffered severe head trauma. When the credits roll, he's finally dead, explaining the outlandish and nonsensical ending that cuts off abruptly.
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* [[TheNostalgiaCritic God got bored and wanted to fuck around with the rooster, so He played yo-yo with the sun.]]
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* [[TheNostalgiaCritic God got bored and wanted to fuck around with the rooster, so He played yo-yo with the sun.]]
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* The Duke seems to hint at this theory being true, IIRC; when Edmund asks how the Duke became real, the Duke simply reminds him of the moment where Edmund touched the illustration of the Duke in the storybook. At the end of the film, all Edmund has to do to hang out with Chanti again is touch the picture of him on the cover.
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[[WMG:Edmond died when the tree crashed into his room.]]
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[[WMG:Edmond died died, or was put in a coma, when the tree crashed into his room.]]
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[[WMG: Don Bluth casted Toby Scott Ganger in the lead because he reminded him of Judith Barsi]]
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* He was a child actor with a [[TastesLikeDiabetes cloyingly cute speech impediment]], and Bluth wanted him to carry on her legacy by playing the AnnoyinglyCuteCritter in his first movie after her death.
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** Perhaps during this lucid moment before he relapses and dies he interprets everything being back to normal now that he's awake, with him walking around and talking to his mother at home, with the mess from the tree gone. In reality he's laying in a hospital bed with his mother at his side.
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* Another "comforting" aspect to this theory; the BigLippedAlligatorMoment where Edmond thinks Peepers is dead and he sort of retreats into his own brain. Was this Edmond slipping out of his coma into death for a few seconds? Or perhaps just having a brain seizure while comatose?
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* Not this Troper's theory, but one that he read said that the sun rising and setting like that was because of a "spun marble" effect at the time. Chanticleer kept the sun coming up like clockwork, the Earth spinning maybe. So while he didn't raise it again, whichever still had a little momentum built up to move, before rolling back into a neutral position.