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Similar to the above one: He probably will also turn out to of been part of their group originally until he saw how bad they were becoming and decided to seperate from them. Then after what happened with David Clarke he found out they were involved and knew it was time to get to work taking them down. Part of this being he arranged for Amanda to find out about him and start her quest for revenge. Nolan out of loyalty to her might then go against Takeda believing he's doing the right thing (feeling bad about how things went before) and become a potential SpannerInTheWorks. If that happens then she'll have to prevent him from Takeda.

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Similar to the above one: He probably will also turn out to of have been part of their group originally until he saw how bad they were becoming and decided to seperate from them. Then after what happened with David Clarke he found out they were involved and knew it was time to get to work taking them down. Part of this being he arranged for Amanda to find out about him and start her quest for revenge. Nolan out of loyalty to her might then go against Takeda believing he's doing the right thing (feeling bad about how things went before) and become a potential SpannerInTheWorks. If that happens then she'll have to prevent him from Takeda.
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* After the most recent episode, his actions seem toward Daniel seem far less like just a scheming PoisonousFriend and more like a jealous crusher scorned - and considering we saw him [[spoiler: sleep with Nolan]] just to keep himself around the Graysons...

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* After the most recent episode, his actions seem toward Daniel seem far less like just a scheming PoisonousFriend friend and more like a jealous crusher scorned - and considering we saw him [[spoiler: sleep with Nolan]] just to keep himself around the Graysons...
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* Jossed. Edmond Dantes is a separate, male character introduced in Season 6 of OUAT.
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[[WMG: Sammy the dog had an encounter with Ned from PushingDaisies.]]

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[[WMG: Sammy the dog had an encounter with Ned from PushingDaisies.''Series/PushingDaisies''.]]
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Even after helping Victoria to fake her death and frame Emily, that's all he really did. He wasn't involved with White Gold whose association with Victoria and Margaux got Ben killed and put Jack in the hospital. They ultimately decided that despite what he'd actively helped Victoria to do and gotten away with it, it was his revenge for putting him in prison, faking his death and forcing him into hiding for nothing when Emily unwittingly robbed him of his reason for doing so: to redeem himself and write the tell-all about what Emily had pulled off. Essentially, they decided they took that from him and saw his punishment as the equivalent of time-served. If not Nolan put the authorities in his direction right after the truth about Victoria was revealed.

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Even after helping Victoria to fake her death and frame Emily, that's all he really did. He wasn't involved with White Gold whose association with Victoria and Margaux got Ben killed and put Jack in the hospital. They ultimately decided that despite what he'd actively helped Victoria to do and gotten away with it, it was his revenge for putting him in prison, faking his death and forcing him into hiding for nothing when Emily unwittingly robbed him of his reason for doing so: to redeem himself and write the tell-all about what Emily had pulled off. Essentially, they decided they took that from him and saw his punishment as the equivalent of time-served. If not not, Nolan put the authorities in his direction right after the truth about Victoria was revealed.
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Niko still went after Hoffman, Emily and Nolan let Mason go

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[[WMG: Niko still went after Hoffman.]]
Even after finding out it was Aiden who killed her father, after she left she still sought to take down Hoffman not only for his involvement with the Initiative and to distract herself from going after Aiden again, but to also avenge the death of Takeda's fiancé too (who was possibly her mother). Whether or not she found him and/or killed him is another matter entirely. If she did, she probably learned of Aiden's death not long after and probably decided it best to move on and forget the rest.

[[WMG: Emily and Nolan let Mason go.]]
Even after helping Victoria to fake her death and frame Emily, that's all he really did. He wasn't involved with White Gold whose association with Victoria and Margaux got Ben killed and put Jack in the hospital. They ultimately decided that despite what he'd actively helped Victoria to do and gotten away with it, it was his revenge for putting him in prison, faking his death and forcing him into hiding for nothing when Emily unwittingly robbed him of his reason for doing so: to redeem himself and write the tell-all about what Emily had pulled off. Essentially, they decided they took that from him and saw his punishment as the equivalent of time-served. If not Nolan put the authorities in his direction right after the truth about Victoria was revealed.
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** [[spoiler: Completely confirmed by WordOfGod]]

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** [[spoiler: {{Possibly confirmed as of the Season 3 Finale}}]]

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** [[spoiler: {{Possibly Possibly confirmed as of the Season 3 Finale}}]]Finale]]
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed in the Season 2 finale when it is revealed that Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197. When Aiden confronts him about it, Takeda more-or-less admits to orchestrating his and Emily's revenge plots to some degree and attempts to kill Aiden for coming between Emily and her (or their) revenge. It backfires and Aiden kills Takeda instead.]]

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* [[spoiler: Confirmed in the Season 2 finale when it is revealed that Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197. When Aiden confronts him about it, Takeda more-or-less admits to orchestrating his and Emily's revenge plots to some degree and attempts to kill Aiden for coming between Emily and her (or their) their mutual revenge. It backfires and Aiden kills Takeda instead.]]
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* [[spoiler: Partially confirmed in the Season 2 finale- Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197. When Aiden confronts him about it, Takeda more-or-less admits to orchestrating their revenge plots to some degree and attempts to kill Aiden for coming between Emily and his revenge. It backfires and Aiden kills Takeda instead.]]

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* [[spoiler: Partially confirmed Confirmed in the Season 2 finale- finale when it is revealed that Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197. When Aiden confronts him about it, Takeda more-or-less admits to orchestrating their his and Emily's revenge plots to some degree and attempts to kill Aiden for coming between Emily and his her (or their) revenge. It backfires and Aiden kills Takeda instead.]]
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* [[Spoiler: Partially confirmed in the Season 2 finale- Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197, implying that Amanda and Aiden becoming his students and seeking revenge on the Graysons/Initiative was most likely orchestrated by him to some degree.]]

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* [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Partially confirmed in the Season 2 finale- Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197, implying that Amanda 197. When Aiden confronts him about it, Takeda more-or-less admits to orchestrating their revenge plots to some degree and attempts to kill Aiden for coming between Emily and his revenge. It backfires and Aiden becoming his students and seeking revenge on the Graysons/Initiative was most likely orchestrated by him to some degree.kills Takeda instead.]]
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* [[Spoiler: Partially confirmed in the Season 2 finale- Takeda's fiance was killed on Flight 197, implying that Amanda and Aiden becoming his students and seeking revenge on the Graysons/Initiative was most likely orchestrated by him to some degree.]]
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[[WMG: Revenge takes place in the same universe as ''Series/OnceUponATime'']]
Rather than being a modern-day version of Edmond Dantes, Emily quite literally ''is'' Edmond Dantes (a female version) transferred over by the dark curse Regina cast who somehow managed to escape Storybrooke and is living in the Hamptons (just like with Frankenstein, a literary character who isn't from the Enchanted Forest but got caught in the curse anyway).
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[[WMG: Jack is an alien.]]
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** [[spoiler: Completely confirmed by WordofGod]]

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** [[Spoiler: {{Possibly confirmed as of the Season 3 Finale}}]]
** [[Spoiler: Completely confirmed by WordofGod.]]

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** {{Possibly confirmed as of the Season 3 Finale}}

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Finale}}]]
** [[Spoiler: Completely confirmed by WordofGod.]]
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed via DNA test that Charlotte is indeed Emily's half sister and David's daughter.]]

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* ** [[spoiler: Confirmed via DNA test that Charlotte is indeed Emily's half sister and David's biological daughter.]]
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed via DNA test that Charlotte is indeed Emily's half sister and David's daughter.]]
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*** Amanda was presumably released from the mental institution after she relented to Dr Banks and Mason Treadwell and started believing her dad was a terrorist. From there she went to foster care.
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** Real Emily went to juvie for stabbing her abusive foster father. Real Amanda went to juvie for being (falsely) accused by her abusive foster mother of burning down their foster home. Overall their stories are quite similar.

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** Real Emily went to juvie for stabbing her abusive foster father. Real Amanda went to juvie for being (falsely) accused by her abusive foster mother of burning down their foster home. Overall their stories are quite similar.
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* Real Emily went to juvie for stabbing her abusive foster father. Real Amanda went to juvie for being (falsely) accused by her abusive foster mother of burning down their foster home. Overall their stories are quite similar.

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* ** Real Emily went to juvie for stabbing her abusive foster father. Real Amanda went to juvie for being (falsely) accused by her abusive foster mother of burning down their foster home. Overall their stories are quite similar.
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* Real Emily went to juvie for stabbing her abusive foster father. Real Amanda went to juvie for being (falsely) accused by her abusive foster mother of burning down their foster home. Overall their stories are quite similar.
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[[spoiler:{{Jossed}}. Looking at the season 2 finale, it looks like it was really Conrad.
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Similar to the above one: He probably will also turn out to of been part of their group originally until he saw how bad they were becoming and decided to seperate from them. Then after what happened with David Clarke he found out they were involved and knew it was time to get to work taking them down. Part of this being he arranged for Amanda to find out about him and start her quest for revenge. Nolan out of loyalty to her might then go against Takeda believing he's doing the right thing (feeling bad about how things went before) and become a potential SpannerInTheWorks. If that happens then she'll have to prevent him from Takeda.

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Similar to the above one: He probably will also turn out to of been part of their group originally until he saw how bad they were becoming and decided to seperate from them. Then after what happened with David Clarke he found out they were involved and knew it was time to get to work taking them down. Part of this being he arranged for Amanda to find out about him and start her quest for revenge. Nolan out of loyalty to her might then go against Takeda believing he's doing the right thing (feeling bad about how things went before) and become a potential SpannerInTheWorks. If that happens then she'll have to prevent him from Takeda.Takeda.

[[WMG: David Clarke was involved in the Initiative.]]
David Clarke actually was involved in something murky with the Initiative and ''was'' guilty of a crime, but not the crime that he was set up for. Either the Initiative agreed to set him up to get him out of the way, or he was so high up in the upper echelons that even ''they'' didn't know they were setting up one of their own.
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* Couple obvious problems with that. First, he's not Edmond Dantes. Emily is. David Clarke is...Mercedes? Kind of? Her motivations are slightly different than Dantes, since she's avenging her father, not herself. Second, [[spoiler: he was blatantly and overtly killed in the jailyard. There is almost no way that was faked.]]

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** Takeda could then be a version of Ra's al ghul.



If David Clarke was so invested in his daughter forgiving his enemies, why would he provide her with the contact information for a man who could and would train her to destroy them? Answer: he wouldn't. Takeda planted that info in the box, knowing that Amanda would come to him and he could mold her into a tool to destroy the Graysons and/or the Americon Initiative for his own reasons.

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If David Clarke was so invested in his daughter forgiving his enemies, why would he provide her with the contact information for a man who could and would train her to destroy them? Answer: he wouldn't. Takeda planted that info in the box, knowing that Amanda would come to him and he could mold her into a tool to destroy the Graysons and/or the Americon Initiative for his own reasons.reasons.

[[WMG: Takeda is working one long XanatosGambit to destroy the Initiative]]
Similar to the above one: He probably will also turn out to of been part of their group originally until he saw how bad they were becoming and decided to seperate from them. Then after what happened with David Clarke he found out they were involved and knew it was time to get to work taking them down. Part of this being he arranged for Amanda to find out about him and start her quest for revenge. Nolan out of loyalty to her might then go against Takeda believing he's doing the right thing (feeling bad about how things went before) and become a potential SpannerInTheWorks. If that happens then she'll have to prevent him from Takeda.

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