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15th Nov '16 2:18:59 PM ml0085
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Vic was just descrambling the names of the agents. If you think about it, Caboose, Donut and Sister being freelancers does work. Caboose is very good with machines and was likely a field mechanic for his freelancer group. He has a strength armour enhancement which is why he's stronger than everyone else. Donut obviously has a healing unit and has a hell of an arm. He's also the most competent person on the Reds when he is actually something. Sister has either a healing unit as well, or a holographic projection unit. We haven't seen her fight, but we do know she survived being 'killed' by Lopez. She also has the same natural endurance as Maine did. Jenkins only showed up in alternate takes so we don't know about him, and Andersmith hasn't shown up... yet.

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Vic was just descrambling the names of the agents. If you think about it, Caboose, Donut and Sister being freelancers does work. Caboose is very good with machines and was likely a field mechanic for his freelancer group. He has a strength armour enhancement which is why he's stronger than everyone else. Donut obviously has a healing unit and has a hell of an arm. He's also the most competent person on the Reds when he is actually something. Sister has either a healing unit as well, or a holographic projection unit. We haven't seen her fight, but we do know she survived being 'killed' by Lopez. She also has the same natural endurance as Maine did. Jenkins only showed up in alternate takes so we don't know about him, and Andersmith hasn't shown up... yet.yet.

[[WMG: Siris will appear in Season 15]]
He'll help Locus "make things right" while keeping him on the right path, and much emphasis will be put on him being the exact opposite of Felix.
3rd Nov '16 9:18:03 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: [[HomeMovies Jason Penopolis]] grows up, obtains the nickname "Caboose," and joins the Blue Army.]]

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[[WMG: [[HomeMovies [[WesternAnimation/HomeMovies Jason Penopolis]] grows up, obtains the nickname "Caboose," and joins the Blue Army.]]
23rd Oct '16 5:17:43 AM TrashJack
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* {{Jossed}}. The final episode of Season 14 is "Red vs. Blue vs. Rooster Teeth".
4th Sep '16 10:49:08 AM VoicelessSalmon
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A penetration wound in the chest can lead to heart problems if it’s not treated properly. This would explain why a seemingly physically healthy man would have a fatal heart attack, and it also explains why Command lists “Aspirin Overdose” as the cause of death: The real reason he died can be linked to his time as Agent Florida, and Project Freelancer was already trying to cover that up, so they lied about what killed him as well.

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A penetration wound in the chest can lead to heart problems if it’s not treated properly. This would explain why a seemingly physically healthy man would have a fatal heart attack, and it also explains why Command lists “Aspirin Overdose” as the cause of death: The real reason he died can be linked to his time as Agent Florida, and Project Freelancer was already trying to cover that up, so they lied about what killed him as well.well.

[[WMG: Flowers/Florida tripping over the cord didn't cause the change in the names.]]
Vic was just descrambling the names of the agents. If you think about it, Caboose, Donut and Sister being freelancers does work. Caboose is very good with machines and was likely a field mechanic for his freelancer group. He has a strength armour enhancement which is why he's stronger than everyone else. Donut obviously has a healing unit and has a hell of an arm. He's also the most competent person on the Reds when he is actually something. Sister has either a healing unit as well, or a holographic projection unit. We haven't seen her fight, but we do know she survived being 'killed' by Lopez. She also has the same natural endurance as Maine did. Jenkins only showed up in alternate takes so we don't know about him, and Andersmith hasn't shown up... yet.
7th Jun '16 7:38:18 AM Peteman
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[[WMG: Sarge has PTSD]]
As simulation troops, the Blood Gulchers all seem to have major flaws that precluded them from joining the real army, but which made them perfect to be ferreted away as Freelancer simulation troops such as chronic insubordination and general incompetence.

But Sarge seems to be a different case altogether: not only does he lack similar flaws, but he's extremely skilled at constructing and maintaining robotics, vehicles and the like (even demonstrating a medical knowledge far surpassing Doc when he [[spoiler:rebuilt Simmons and Grif]]), he's proven to be a consistently skilled soldier, and a solid (though not always logically sound) tactician. He's even had moments of extremely advanced critical and analytical thinking (such as the time he [[spoiler:deduced the situation at Valhalla based on minor details of Simmons' correspondence]]). He proved skilled enough in fact, that it was mentioned that he used to be an ODST.

My theory is that during his time as a helljumper, Sarge experienced some sort of traumatic event that resulted in an extreme form of PTSD which resulted in his lucid, yet...let's say "unique" interpretation of reality. Rather than discharge him completely, he was then snatched up by Project Freelancer and given command of a squad at Blood Gulch with the hopes that his expertise would be an asset in the defense of the installation should a hostile force ever discover the whereabouts of Alpha (with Butch Flowers/[[spoiler:Agent Florida]] there of course to provide around-the-clock protection in the [extremely unlikely] event that one or several of the sim troops posed a threat to the alpha). His compliance in this endeavour would have been relatively simple given his initially unwavering faith in the orders and judgement passed down by "Red Command".

If you don't mind taking a few leaps of faith (pun intended) with the narrative, you could arrive at the conclusion that perhaps Sarge served with and/or commanded a disobedient, lazy Helljumper at some point in his career (or maybe even Sarge himself screwed something up). Said hypothetical ODST may have then possibly caused a mission to go badly sideways through their failure to properly prepare, maybe even costing one or more squadmates their lives. Fast forward to Blood Gulch, and the sheer degree to which Sarge hates Grif becomes a lot less funny. If you accept this theory, then Sarge isn't just a trigger-happy GeneralRipper sort. He's a man whose post-traumatic stress flareups occasionally lead to him violently attacking a subordinate he may well see as a stand-in for someone who made a mistake years ago.
* I think this is more or less canon...
--> "You have a fear of heights? Didn't you used to jump out of high orbit during the war?"\\
"And how do you think I got that fear? That @#%$ was crazy!"


[[WMG: Caboose was a Freelancer]]
Caboose was an AI agent, and he sided with Tex when she tried to find the Alpha. While Tex was searching for Alpha, Caboose was caught. Caboose had his memory wiped, which damaged his intellectual capacity. Note that in his early appearances, Caboose did not have his trademark voice impediment. It was only when Omega possessed him that he degenerated into an idiot. However, no other Omega possessee suffered an intelligence decrease. (ex. Doc) However, [[spoiler:Agent Carolina]] went insane after getting two AI's. Since Caboose only would have had the memory of an AI, he would have only been damaged slightly. Caboose being a Freelancer would explain lots of things about BGC, such as why Caboose arrived in the gulch with a [[spoiler:F.I.L.S.S. operated tank]], why the Director would let Tex visit the gulch after Sidewinder, why F.I.L.S.S always referred to Caboose as "Mister Caboose", and not by his rank (although it is possible that Caboose has no rank) and why he could teleport when he was sneaking into Red base. Also, Caboose is possibly the biggest badass in the gulch, and he was the one to reactivate Chips.
EDIT: more info to support my theory: an unnamed blue Freelancer appears in S9-E13-Planning the Heist (visible at 0:56)
* To add on to the theory: Caboose is the mythical Agent Florida, once the Number 1 Freelancer. The NoodleIncident that caused Florida to get "de-stated" was partially Caboose's fault, and got him permanently banned from the leaderboards.
** "Poor Florida" refers to the state; hence, there was never an Agent Florida to begin with.
*** Unless Agent Florida's actions were the very reason Florida no longer exists as a state (which, granted, would be exceptionally unlikely as a real plot point).
*** [[HilariousInHindsight BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA]]
*** Yeah... like a MillionToOneChance?
*** Jossed; we find out in season 10 that [[spoiler:Agent Florida was the late Captain Butch Flowers of Blue Team.]]
* This probably won't help the theory, but just to point out, Caboose ''was'' technically the one who defeated Tex in season 8 (by activating the armor lockdown).
-->Yes! I beat up the girl!
* Well, in the Higgs-Bozo PSA, Caboose does use a variation of Caboose!Washington's "Freelancer power, activate!" and demonstrates superspeed. Granted, the PSA's aren't canon with the main plot, but it could be foreshadowing.
** The line is "Water bison power, activate!", playing off the earlier misunderstanding of the Higgs Boson's name.
** Picking up from this, a running gag this season seems to be Caboose surprising the other Blood Gulch crew members with observations that seem too accurate for his usual ditzy self. While it might be apropos of nothing, it might be subtle foreshadowing of some plot point later this season.
*** However, WordOfGod is that Rooster Teeth isn't planning to make any major changes to Caboose's character.
* Also, throughout the ''Recollection'' series Caboose's understanding of the nature, goals, and methods of Project Freelancer, the A.I., and the Director and Alpha have been unusually and consistently accurate, in stark contrast to his skewed views on the rest of reality. Remarkably, he seems to have a better grasp of the whole A.I. subplot than the other Blood Gulch members, particularly Sarge (granted, this is Sarge we're talking about, so that's not ''too'' hard).
* It's been mentioned several times that Caboose has trouble remembering his past.
* Caboose has enough unusual stuff going on with him (the A.I.-compatible (remember ghosts don't exist) mental images inside his mind that no one else seems to have, his odd affinity with A.I.s and A.I.-based machines, his unexplained lethal skills, and his obsessive loyalty to Leonard Church) that him being a Freelancer would explain a lot of the early season weirdness associated with him.
** Come to think of it, the dynamic of Caboose's mental images of himself and the other Blood Gulch crew inside Caboose's mind makes a whole lot more sense if you think of him as a Freelancer amongst Simulation Troopers (although it could just be Caboose ego-tripping inside his own head).
** It would be very consistent with what we've seen so far if "the inside of Caboose's mind" is actually a recovery unit, suggesting he had one implanted inside his brain, which would definitely make him some kind of Freelancer and[=/=] or recovery agent.
* Following up on this, Caboose could have been Agent Massachusetts (I think in one of the PSAs, Caboose screams out Massachusetts at one point when the Freelancers are calling out their names). Like Connecticut-C.T., it'd be too long to pronounce and would probably be abbreviated to M.C., which also happens to be Caboose's initials (Michael Caboose). No relation to [[Franchise/{{Halo}} that other M.C.]], other than the "where are they now" ending to the ''Blood Gulch'' series finale. Perhaps Caboose isn't his original name, but rather an identity Project Freelancer came up with for him after his brain trauma.
** Except C.T. is the postal designation for Connecticut, which is probably where they got that. Massachusetts' postal designation is MA, not MC. MC is the postal designation for Monaco, which is not a U.S. state.
* One problem with this theory is that Rooster Teeth have stated they don't want to put Caboose in a serious fight scene, since it'd be pretty cruel given that he's pretty much like a child. They've also said they want to keep Caboose's personality as it is (stupid). That said, they could say Caboose was a Freelancer in the past, but have him retain his current personality in the present by having the trauma he experienced that turned him into Caboose be completely permanent (although, when you think about it, that'd be pretty dark too).
** Wasn't that what happened to [[spoiler: Agent Washington]] with [[spoiler: Epsilon]]?
* Mysterious Blue Guy could be Caboose, see MBG WMG folder.
* Nobody else turned into an idiot after being possessed by O'Malley, but nobody else had O'Malley removed by force. Everybody else who was possessed by O'Malley had O'Malley leave under his own free will.
* With the reveal that Captain Flowers was [[spoiler:Agent Florida]], and Caboose and Sheila appeared only after he died, it makes even more sense Caboose was a Freelancer.

[[WMG: Caboose wasn't a Freelancer... because he was a [=SPARTAN=]]]
This would certainly explain his enhanced strength and lack of social skills. Also, in his bio it's mentioned that Caboose was raised on the moon, had 18 siblings, and was the first member of his family to attend high school... which at first seems like some sort of hillbilly[=/=]redneck crack, but would actually make sense if Caboose was raised as part of a Spartan creche. Presumably he either escaped or washed out during training, and ended up attempting to re-integrate into society to the best of his (limited) ability.

[[WMG: Caboose is Obfuscating Stupidity.]]
* Caboose has had moments throughout the series of actual smartness. Like being able to repair A.I. units, being able to tell their condition just by looking at them, and able to transfer A.I. into different bodies.
** He also had the plan of getting in Freelancer headquarters by using the tank.
** And he's the only male member of the cast that is actually able to know what girls think like... while Church and Tucker are complete dumb-asses.
** And, although the writing reason behind Caboose getting stupider over time was Burnie and Joel feeding off of each other, from a story perspective, Caboose could just be acting stupider as time goes on so that he would never be seen as a threat.
*** He was able to just walk up to Red team and say hello... while they were contemplating attacking him.
*** Caboose has gotten stupid to the point of ridiculous during the show. NOTHING could be that dumb without faking it.
* Also, caboose has shown that he is immensely strong, and knows how to use that strength. This could either mean 2 things.
** 1: He just uses the "HULK SMASH!" technique and wins by sheer brute force alone, OR:
** 2: He was able to wipe out all the soldiers in Beaver Creek because he's a good soldier that can think on his feet in combat situations, and has enough strength to make him even more deadly.



[[WMG:Caboose doesn't use his brain at all anymore.]]
This explains both his increasing stupidity, his brain's sarcastic depiction of sister despite Caboose properly knowing her in life, and his remembering Church despite the lack of his mental avatar. Caboose, upon Church's lack of existence in his brain, decided, instead of losing his best friend, decided to simply not think anymore. His brain is now forced to fend for itself with what little it can pick up from conversations.
* Alternatively, there was so much collateral damage when Tex and Church had that firefight with O'Malley inside Caboose's head, his already low Intelligence score was bumped down to Ralph Wiggum status.
** Supported by the fact that he temporarily forgets Church, whose avatar died in the battle.
** It seems that in Reconstruction, he's clean his brain because of the time he's spent away from others and has a firmer grip on reality. His avatar no longer has delusions of grandeur.
*** Alternatively, this was the "real" Caboose, who was always in there, but only came out on this one occasion so he could make it clear to Church that yes, this message Delta left was serious and ''not'' part of Caboose's screwed-up child psyche.
*** Another theory is that Delta himself did some cleanup while he was in there. Being the Alpha's logic aspect and all, it's not hard to believe he might have found it difficult to deal with Caboose's mind as it was.



[[WMG:Church did not, in fact, wait a thousand years for Gamma to build a teleporter to Blood Gulch.]]
* Gamma's trait is deceit. And if you were in a robot body, not feeling any of the usual physiological markers that let humans know time is passing, and standing around in a dull hallway with an [=AI=] telling you bad knock-knock jokes for a few weeks, and were told it had been a thousand years...well, who's to argue? Gary's just enough of an ass to do that, too.
** This troper would like to dispute "just enough'. Gary is most definitely enough of an ass to do that.
* Gamma may in fact have used his time manipulation to alter the flow of time. Or maybe, since he knew Church was in a robot body, they really ''did'' stay there for a millenium.
** Probably, just because he's a jerk!
* There's also the fact that they specifically stated that Gamma and Omega were the AI's used to torture Alpha, in which case this explains why he was so good at screwing with Church; he had experience doing already.
* Or, even more plausible, the events with Church and his multiple attempts to alter the past never PHYSICALLY happened. Basically, Church was sent offline and the events of meeting Gary, and going back in time multiple times were all happening in his head with a wireless connection to Gary. When it comes to his attempts to change the past, Church is going through a recursion program similar to what he does in Season 9 when trying to chase Texas through the multiple iterations. The difference is that when this happens with the Alpha version of Church, which is probably more detailed to the point where they're perfect recreations that may not allow for any changes, unlike the Epsilon version of memories which are based off of information provided by Caboose. And Church came back online just in time to disarm the bomb after finally accepting that he can't change the past because they're recorded as they are. This makes sense that time moves faster for a computer program when processing something (like we see in Season 13 where Church processes how to make sure Carolina survives the assault in the hidden base, time for him going about two minutes in what is happening in a few seconds), and time for Church during his time offline could have been close to what thousands of years would feel like.

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[[WMG:Church did not, in fact, wait a thousand years for Gamma to build a teleporter to Blood Gulch.]]
* Gamma's trait is deceit. And if you were in a robot body, not feeling any of the usual physiological markers that let humans know time is passing, and standing around in a dull hallway with an [=AI=] telling you bad knock-knock jokes for a few weeks, and were told it had been a thousand years...well, who's to argue? Gary's just enough of an ass to do that, too.
** This troper would like to dispute "just enough'. Gary is most definitely enough of an ass to do that.
* Gamma may in fact have used his time manipulation to alter the flow of time. Or maybe, since he knew Church was in a robot body, they really ''did'' stay there for a millenium.
** Probably, just because he's a jerk!
* There's also the fact that they specifically stated that Gamma and Omega were the AI's used to torture Alpha, in which case this explains why he was so good at screwing with Church; he had experience doing already.
* Or, even more plausible, the events with Church and his multiple attempts to alter the past never PHYSICALLY happened. Basically, Church was sent offline and the events of meeting Gary, and going back in time multiple times were all happening in his head with a wireless connection to Gary. When it comes to his attempts to change the past, Church is going through a recursion program similar to what he does in Season 9 when trying to chase Texas through the multiple iterations. The difference is that when this happens with the Alpha version of Church, which is probably more detailed to the point where they're perfect recreations that may not allow for any changes, unlike the Epsilon version of memories which are based off of information provided by Caboose. And Church came back online just in time to disarm the bomb after finally accepting that he can't change the past because they're recorded as they are. This makes sense that time moves faster for a computer program when processing something (like we see in Season 13 where Church processes how to make sure Carolina survives the assault in the hidden base, time for him going about two minutes in what is happening in a few seconds), and time for Church during his time offline could have been close to what thousands of years would feel like.



[[WMG:Tucker...]]
* Went [=AWOL=]. The joke "Where are they now?" ending of the main series had Tucker ditching the army and flying to the alien homeworld on some mysterious errand, most likely related to Junior. As of Episode 6 of Reconstruction, Agent Washington has successfully "re-assembled the Blues," but the team now only consists of Church and Caboose. ''Hmmm...''
** This could be supported by a deleted scene from the last episode of BGC, where he tells Church he's going to try and find Junior.
** Confirmed by Canon in RvB "Recreation", episode 16.
*** Given that he mentions an ambassador status, the below scenario is more likely.
* Got promoted. Alternatively, Command noticed Tucker's CrowningMomentofAwesome near the end of Blood Gulch Chronicles, and decided that this new affinity for combat, as well as his unexplained resistance to Wyoming's Temporal Distorter unit, should be put to better use in some special forces program.
** This one seems confirmed by the radio transmission. Now the question is, what was he looking for?
*** Another consideration. Tucker was a Mole for command. His entire act makes him either, a BEL, or it's all a veil of obfuscating stupidity(or likely both, as suggested by his cameo in Reconstruction)
* Alternatively, Sarge just killed him.
* Is off getting some chocolate milk. Hey, that's what he said in the latest [=PSA=].
* The "under the sand" comment makes me think of archaeological excavations. Due to his experience with the aliens, I bet Tucker's been recruited into a team of scientists researching the history of the Covenant. The sand comment makes me think this is somehow related to the Sandtrap map (it can't be Sandbox, the map wasn't out at the time). My guess is Tucker was either talking about the temple on the map, or the crashed Covenant ship.
** He's part of the Franchise/{{Stargate|Verse}} Program! I knew it!
* It seems that the UNSC has recruited him and (an apparently alive) Junior to act as Ambassadors to the Aliens. An ambassador with specialized combat training.



[[WMG:Donut was kicked out of the Red Army for being gay.]]
After the Blood Gulch Chronicles, the Blood Gulch soldiers split up and went to more efficient outposts. Simmons stated "don't ask, don't tell," in season one, so apparently the army doesn't accept homosexuals in this version of the future. They did not accept Donut's flamboyant homosexuality anymore than Caboose's team killing or Grif and Simmons selling their team's ammo to the blues. So, as soon as it was discovered by the army that Donut was gay they kicked him out.
* Alternatively, Donut has been promoted beyond Sarge's command because of his l33t grenade-tossing skillz.
* It appears that Donut received a promotion in the same vein as Tucker, only it was based on his ability to appear anywhere, unexplained, rather than combat ability. He states that he's become an infiltration specialist in several deleted scenes, which appear to be canon. Insert Innuendo Here.
** He's a deep insertion specialist behind enemy lines. Hey, you asked for innuendos!

[[WMG:Sarge is Peppy Hare from Starfox.]]
He is an insane old man shouting useless advice with a Texan accent and his name has been hidden to the point of a lampshade hung during an alternate ending. Methinks someone from Nintendo has been taking money under the table from Bill Gates.
* But Sarge kills people successfully. Not Grif, mind you...
** Who says Peppy hasn't killed anyone? He participated in a war consisting of four paper airplanes against over 150 spacecraft per planet, including (but not limited to) Flying Saucers, Humongous Mecha, the Temple of Doom's Evil-er Twin, Nuclear Missiles, Imperial Star Destroyers, and THEIR OWN GOD-DAMNED SUN. Either Venom's forces really suck or the team is just that badass. And Grif is probably being kept alive so he can be harvested for spare organs... or is just the local punching bag.



[[WMG: Grif actually was responsible for the deaths of the Blues in his new place.]]
You know that Soldier Poison that Sarge couldn't get? Grif requisitioned it, spiked the ammo, then sold the ammo to the other team.
* That actually makes a lot of sense. He has been stated to be "crafty" on several occasions, and this approach would certainly count, as well as allowing him to avoid actual combat.
** Crafty by Church's standards. And while Church is the OnlySaneMan, he's not a ''bright'' OnlySaneMan.
* Highly unlikely. When Sarge discovers the dead Blues, the Symbol of the Meta is carved into a nearby wall. Caboose, Grif and Simmons where relocated into the same location ("You where at Rats Nest too?"), Washington picked up Caboose earlier and the Meta was following Wash at that time. So, the Meta killed the Blues, the Reds just didn´t noticed.



[[WMG:Church will become Wash's [=AI=].]]
Once he gathers a few more pieces of himself back together and/or accepts he's Alpha, some sort of situation will crop up where either his body is destroyed and he can't get a new one or they can only get one person in somewhere and both he and Washington will need to go there, so he'll need to use Wash's [=AI=] port.
* [[spoiler: Happened in the finale. Though Church still denies he's an A.I.]]
** [[spoiler: And then he got erased by the EMP, so says WordOfGod.]]



[[WMG:Caboose was the original mental template for the A.I.s.]]
His Mind was removed in order to create Alpha. He was placed in Blood Gulch by the Creators of Alpha to reabsorb the A.I.s there.(probably more than one) When that didn't work they created the Meta to reabsorb all the [=AI=]s and return to Caboose. The Freelancers are opposing them because they want to keep the A.I.s.
* {{Jossed}} - the Alpha is based on the mind of the Director of the Freelancer project.

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[[WMG:Caboose was the original mental template for the A.I.s.]]
His Mind was removed in order to create Alpha. He was placed in Blood Gulch by the Creators of Alpha to reabsorb the A.I.s there.(probably more than one) When that didn't work they created the Meta to reabsorb all the [=AI=]s and return to Caboose. The Freelancers are opposing them because they want to keep the A.I.s.
* {{Jossed}} - the Alpha is based on the mind of the Director of the Freelancer project.



[[WMG: Church is a perfect shot]]
The problem is that he's unconsciously affected by his programming as the Alpha. Every time he tries to kill someone, he unconsciously readjusts his aim so that he misses. Hence, he was unable to shoot the Freelancer guard at point blank range, but had no difficulty in shooting off Caboose's toe back in Season Two. The difference is in the intent; killing force is a no go, but a nonlethal injury is perfectly fine. Granted, Church did manage to kill Wyoming, but it didn't take. It's not completely implausible that Church unconsciously knew that Wyoming would survive, so his programming didn't interfere. He could be the greatest sniper in history, with Improbable Aiming Skills to put Tex to shame (see his ricochet shot on the Meta), but his programming simply won't let him kill anyone. This is presumably because the Freelancers don't want Church killing their assets. But regardless, this troper is of the opinion that given the nature of ''Reconstruction'', Rooster Teeth couldn't possibly pass up the opportunity to deconstruct one of their longest running gags.
* Alternatively, when Sarge made Church's body, Sarge used a Random Number Generator based on Dungeons and Dragons to determine his accuracy (whatever edition they use then). Sarge stacked the penalties on the Blue Bot for spite, but because a Natural 20 still automatically criticals (in that edition), he can unload a clip at point blank range and still miss every time, but still headshot Wyoming. Tex reprogrammed hers, or because the robot wasn't blue, Sarge didn't impose any penalties.
* That doesn't quite make sense. When he was trying to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, he shot multiple times at the flying grenade, and missed. Considering hitting the grenade would actually *save* Tex's life, you'd think he'd hit it.
** He missed a quite large rock and had to be helped in order to zoom in the sniper rifle. I think Church just sucks at shooting things. Or maybe he had swallowed his pride and wanted Tex to get a one up one him again by shooting a red. probably the former isn't it?
** Unless of course, he subconsciously realized that if Tex didn't die, she wouldn't be free of O'Malley...
* Then again, while Church ''is'' an AI, when the original Alpha was broken up into fragments, Church lost the bits of him that made him a good shot.
** Or, because the Alpha is based off of the Dr. Leonard Church, who was never able to actually ''fight'' in the war, the Alpha isn't much of a fighter either, he's more of a leader.

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[[WMG: Church is a perfect shot]]
The problem is that he's unconsciously affected by his programming as the Alpha. Every time he tries to kill someone, he unconsciously readjusts his aim so that he misses. Hence, he was unable to shoot the Freelancer guard at point blank range, but had no difficulty in shooting off Caboose's toe back in Season Two. The difference is in the intent; killing force is a no go, but a nonlethal injury is perfectly fine. Granted, Church did manage to kill Wyoming, but it didn't take. It's not completely implausible that Church unconsciously knew that Wyoming would survive, so his programming didn't interfere. He could be the greatest sniper in history, with Improbable Aiming Skills to put Tex to shame (see his ricochet shot on the Meta), but his programming simply won't let him kill anyone. This is presumably because the Freelancers don't want Church killing their assets. But regardless, this troper is of the opinion that given the nature of ''Reconstruction'', Rooster Teeth couldn't possibly pass up the opportunity to deconstruct one of their longest running gags.
* Alternatively, when Sarge made Church's body, Sarge used a Random Number Generator based on Dungeons and Dragons to determine his accuracy (whatever edition they use then). Sarge stacked the penalties on the Blue Bot for spite, but because a Natural 20 still automatically criticals (in that edition), he can unload a clip at point blank range and still miss every time, but still headshot Wyoming. Tex reprogrammed hers, or because the robot wasn't blue, Sarge didn't impose any penalties.
* That doesn't quite make sense. When he was trying to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, he shot multiple times at the flying grenade, and missed. Considering hitting the grenade would actually *save* Tex's life, you'd think he'd hit it.
** He missed a quite large rock and had to be helped in order to zoom in the sniper rifle. I think Church just sucks at shooting things. Or maybe he had swallowed his pride and wanted Tex to get a one up one him again by shooting a red. probably the former isn't it?
** Unless of course, he subconsciously realized that if Tex didn't die, she wouldn't be free of O'Malley...
* Then again, while Church ''is'' an AI, when the original Alpha was broken up into fragments, Church lost the bits of him that made him a good shot.
** Or, because the Alpha is based off of the Dr. Leonard Church, who was never able to actually ''fight'' in the war, the Alpha isn't much of a fighter either, he's more of a leader.
7th Jun '16 7:32:11 AM Peteman
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7th Jun '16 7:29:07 AM Peteman
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* Confirmed in part. Yes, Church's body belonged to a person, but there was no need to MindRape him. Church's natural possession abilities suppressed the victim's mind until he was killed. All of that's left of [[spoiler: Private Jimmy]] are a few positive but ultimately false memories.

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* Confirmed in part. Yes, Church's body belonged to a person, but there was no need to MindRape him.him (though the process was unbelievably agonizing). Church's natural possession abilities suppressed the victim's mind until he was killed. All of that's left of [[spoiler: Private Jimmy]] are a few positive but ultimately false memories.
6th Jun '16 7:27:35 PM Peteman
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** To add a variation they did use a real person to host the Alpha, who, by the time they implanted him, had no real personality, skill set, or memories left (almost everything had been fragmented off). Post implantation, the Alpha became aware that he was somewhere with all of the bits of personality and information he needed to rebuild himself and started tearing his host's mind apart, integrating all of the pieces into himself and overwriting the rest.

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** * To add a variation they did use a real person to host the Alpha, who, by the time they implanted him, had no real personality, skill set, or memories left (almost everything had been fragmented off). Post implantation, the Alpha became aware that he was somewhere with all of the bits of personality and information he needed to rebuild himself and started tearing his host's mind apart, integrating all of the pieces into himself and overwriting the rest.
* Confirmed in part. Yes, Church's body belonged to a person, but there was no need to MindRape him. Church's natural possession abilities suppressed the victim's mind until he was killed. All of that's left of [[spoiler: Private Jimmy]] are a few positive but ultimately false memories.
6th Jun '16 7:23:55 PM Peteman
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*** While still jossed, there is an interesting hiccup: while Florida was not Church, Florida did choose Church's host body.
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