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21st Dec '17 6:08:29 PM Malady
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[[WMG: [[Main/TheBrittasEmpire Gordon Brittas]] is an alternate universe version of Arnold Rimmer.]]

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[[WMG: [[Main/TheBrittasEmpire [[Series/TheBrittasEmpire Gordon Brittas]] is an alternate universe version of Arnold Rimmer.]]
4th Nov '17 12:20:13 PM CynicalBastardo
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* It's implied to be a trivially easy task in Series VIII, so that's plausible.
24th Oct '17 5:18:42 AM Jcopping89
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* Taking this thought on a stage, the C.P. Grogan Kochanski of that universe had, for whatever reason, failed an encounter with that universe's Inquisitor, and was wiped for history. The Chloe Annett version was the "sperm-in-law" she was replaced by.

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* Taking this thought on a stage, the C.P. Grogan Kochanski of that universe had, for whatever reason, failed an encounter with that universe's Inquisitor, and was wiped for history. The Chloe Annett version was the "sperm-in-law" she was replaced by.by.
** FridgeLogic, the Chloe Annett version is actually the original who was replaced by C.P Grogan's version by the Inquisitor. When Lister tricked The Inquisitor and all his work had been undone, she was then restored to Chloe Annett's original version. The C.P Grogan verison the psiren transformed into in Series 6 was just because Lister remembered her like that, and his mind was unaffected by the timeline restoring itself. Mind blown yet?
25th Aug '17 6:12:12 PM AndIntroducingALeg
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Perhaps a slightly different sperm fertilised the egg that would become her, meaning the combined DNA would be slightly different.

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Perhaps a slightly different sperm fertilised the egg that would become her, meaning the combined DNA would be slightly different.different.
* Taking this thought on a stage, the C.P. Grogan Kochanski of that universe had, for whatever reason, failed an encounter with that universe's Inquisitor, and was wiped for history. The Chloe Annett version was the "sperm-in-law" she was replaced by.
4th Jan '17 5:51:26 AM TheLyniezian
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[[WMG: Or, Lister ''did'' get pregnant, as an effect of the multiverse in-show [[ItRunsOnNonsensoleum running on nonsensoleum.]]]]
Since there are plenty of other examples of such, is it any wonder if the laws of biology are not as intrinsic to a given parallel universe as might be expected for the RealLife laws of physics?
21st Aug '16 10:32:00 AM TheLyniezian
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** The explanatory text might have been made up by Holly in his capacity as narrator, to screw with the audience. Not entirely out of character for him.












* One entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Assuming Annett's Kochanski was the original one, who then got replaced with Grogan's by the Inquisitor, Lister as he is then was still born from Annett's genes. When the Inquisitor finally got round to judging David Lister, he 'corrected it' by replacing him with that of a Lister born of Grogan's genes... thus the different appearance. Two questions arise though. Why would changing Annett to Grogan in the first place not affect Lister's appearance right away? And secondly, what actually is the extent of the Inquisitor's powers in changing every last person in time and space, when you take into account that by changing one person you effectively screw up the existence of literally all of their descendants. Does he judge one person independently and override the cosmetic appearance of their descendants? But that would be absurd because then genetics would be completely moot. Or does he see into his own future, and know that he's already going to deem certain of those descendants unworthy, and thus doesn't bother to modify their appearance in line with their ancestor as they'll be changed eventually anyway? The extent of his skillbase is never really expanded on. Either way, Red Dwarf timefucks aside, I like to assume that the alternate Lister is the son of Grogan's Kochanski, and the one we know is that of Annett's. It just makes sense, to me.

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* One entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Assuming Annett's Kochanski was the original one, who then got replaced with Grogan's by the Inquisitor, Lister as he is then was still born from Annett's genes. When the Inquisitor finally got round to judging David Lister, he 'corrected it' by replacing him with that of a Lister born of Grogan's genes... thus the different appearance. Two questions arise though. Why would changing Annett to Grogan in the first place not affect Lister's appearance right away? And secondly, what actually is the extent of the Inquisitor's powers in changing every last person in time and space, when you take into account that by changing one person you effectively screw up the existence of literally all of their descendants. Does he judge one person independently and override the cosmetic appearance of their descendants? But that would be absurd because then genetics would be completely moot. Or does he see into his own future, and know that he's already going to deem certain of those descendants unworthy, and thus doesn't bother to modify their appearance in line with their ancestor as they'll be changed eventually anyway? The extent of his skillbase is never really expanded on. Either way, Red Dwarf timefucks aside, I like to assume that the alternate Lister is the son of Grogan's Kochanski, and the one we know is that of Annett's. It just makes sense, to me.me.

[[WMG: The two Kochanskis are genetically different in the alternate timelines.]]
Perhaps a slightly different sperm fertilised the egg that would become her, meaning the combined DNA would be slightly different.
1st Aug '16 4:06:07 PM Jcopping89
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* One entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Assuming Annett's Kochanski was the original one, who then got replaced with Grogan's by the Inquisitor, Lister as he is then was still born from Annett's genes. When the Inquisitor finally got round to judging David Lister, he 'corrected it' by replacing him with that of a Lister born of Grogan's genes... thus the different appearance. Two questions arise though. Why would changing Annett to Grogan in the first place not affect Lister's appearance right away? And secondly, what actually is the extent of the Inquisitor's powers in changing every last person in time and space, when you take into account that by changing one person you effectively screw up the existence of literally all of their descendants. Does he judge one person independently and override the cosmetic appearance of their descendants? But that would be absurd because then genetics would be completely moot. Or does he see into his own future, and know that he's already going to deem certain of those descendants unworthy, and thus doesn't bother to modify their appearance in line with their ancestor as they'll be change eventually anyway? The extent of his skillbase is never really expanded on.

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* One entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Assuming Annett's Kochanski was the original one, who then got replaced with Grogan's by the Inquisitor, Lister as he is then was still born from Annett's genes. When the Inquisitor finally got round to judging David Lister, he 'corrected it' by replacing him with that of a Lister born of Grogan's genes... thus the different appearance. Two questions arise though. Why would changing Annett to Grogan in the first place not affect Lister's appearance right away? And secondly, what actually is the extent of the Inquisitor's powers in changing every last person in time and space, when you take into account that by changing one person you effectively screw up the existence of literally all of their descendants. Does he judge one person independently and override the cosmetic appearance of their descendants? But that would be absurd because then genetics would be completely moot. Or does he see into his own future, and know that he's already going to deem certain of those descendants unworthy, and thus doesn't bother to modify their appearance in line with their ancestor as they'll be change changed eventually anyway? The extent of his skillbase is never really expanded on.on. Either way, Red Dwarf timefucks aside, I like to assume that the alternate Lister is the son of Grogan's Kochanski, and the one we know is that of Annett's. It just makes sense, to me.
1st Aug '16 4:04:09 PM Jcopping89
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* One entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Someone could probably say this better than me, but there must be an explanation in there somewhere.

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* One entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Someone could probably say this better than me, but there must Assuming Annett's Kochanski was the original one, who then got replaced with Grogan's by the Inquisitor, Lister as he is then was still born from Annett's genes. When the Inquisitor finally got round to judging David Lister, he 'corrected it' by replacing him with that of a Lister born of Grogan's genes... thus the different appearance. Two questions arise though. Why would changing Annett to Grogan in the first place not affect Lister's appearance right away? And secondly, what actually is the extent of the Inquisitor's powers in changing every last person in time and space, when you take into account that by changing one person you effectively screw up the existence of literally all of their descendants. Does he judge one person independently and override the cosmetic appearance of their descendants? But that would be an explanation absurd because then genetics would be completely moot. Or does he see into his own future, and know that he's already going to deem certain of those descendants unworthy, and thus doesn't bother to modify their appearance in there somewhere.line with their ancestor as they'll be change eventually anyway? The extent of his skillbase is never really expanded on.
1st Aug '16 3:56:34 PM Jcopping89
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* One one example earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Someone could probably say this better than me, but there must be an explanation in there somewhere.

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* One one example entry earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Someone could probably say this better than me, but there must be an explanation in there somewhere.
1st Aug '16 3:56:06 PM Jcopping89
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* It isn't a perfect explanation, but one example earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Someone could probably say this better than me, but there must be an explanation in there somewhere.

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* It isn't a perfect explanation, but One one example earlier in the page talked about how the change between Grogan and Annett's Kochanski existed in universe because of the Inquisitor's meddling. So the cosmetic 'differences' between the Lister in one timeline and that of another could somehow be explained as one having one Kochanski's genes, and the other with the other. Someone could probably say this better than me, but there must be an explanation in there somewhere.
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