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23rd Jun '14 5:09:26 PM spinindiamond
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: In the other timelines, Oriko kills herself instead of contracting.]]]]
[[spoiler: When kyubey first appeared to Oriko, she had crossed the DespairEventHorizon from being ostracized by her peers due to her politician father embezzling funds and committing suicide upon being caught, which led to her falling from a highly respected figure to a social reject. Perhaps Kyubey never showed himself to Oriko, in which case she probably gave up on living and was DrivenToSuicide. With Oriko dead, Kirika has no reason to contract or if she had by that point, then she could have witched out from grief.]]
23rd Jun '14 4:38:14 PM spinindiamond
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** Alternately, Oriko and Kirika contracting was just a fluke and in other timelines neither of them became Magical Girls. We know Sayaka wasnt a Magical Girl in the first two timelines and didnt contract in this one so the possibility of contracting isnt set in stone



Pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. It seems to be the default explanation in FanFic, so I figured it should be up for discussion. Homura certainly could do it, with great ease, and she's just ruthless enough to do so.

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Pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. It seems to be the default explanation in FanFic, so I figured it should be up for discussion. Homura certainly could do it, with great ease, and she's just ruthless enough to do so.so
14th Oct '13 11:22:22 PM A.vonZiggurat
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[[WMG: Oriko and Kirika don't show up in other timelines, because Homura kills them.]]
Pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. It seems to be the default explanation in FanFic, so I figured it should be up for discussion. Homura certainly could do it, with great ease, and she's just ruthless enough to do so.
7th Dec '12 2:07:52 PM Sterok
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* That makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey didn't know Homura was a time traveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.

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* That makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' Kyubey didn't know Homura was a time traveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.
30th Nov '12 1:32:05 AM Chronic1
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** He can not only read thoughts but effortlessly serve as a thought relay between chosen humans. He can even hijack parts of a human brain to create complicated controlled hallucinations. And as about it not knowing that Homura was a time traveller until the scene at the fountain... he doesn't even actually say that. Take note "Now I know what your power is" implies "I didn't know that before now" but does not actually state the latter and we all know that QB's words must always be taken at their strictest and most literal meaning, because he deceives people by providing them correct pieces and letting their imaginations paint wrong pictures on their basis (even assuming he never lies outright which is practically impossible to prove).
24th Jul '12 4:40:30 PM TSB
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* That makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey didn't know Homura was a timetraveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.

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* That makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey didn't know Homura was a timetraveller time traveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.difference.

[[WMG: Oriko and Kirika contracting always happens. The anomaly is that Homura was somehow going to end in this timeline.]]
She made a mistake at the very beginning of the timeline, perhaps letting Kyubey find out she's a time traveler, and her defeat was inevitable. Homura would be killed by a witch or another magical girl, or fall into despair, like she started to do at the end of the canon timeline. Oriko didn't just see a vision of Gretchen; she also saw Homura's defeat. The apocalypse is nothing compared to the loss of the one person who can hit the reset button. In normal timelines, Oriko foresaw Homura preparing to go back, and that gave her enough hope that she couldn't commit to mass murder.
3rd Apr '12 11:27:47 AM boobehs
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* hat makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey didn't know Homura was a timetraveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.

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* hat That makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey didn't know Homura was a timetraveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.
3rd Apr '12 11:27:30 AM boobehs
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Oriko believed that contacting Madoka was a top priority to him, that's why she engineered most of the plot... but Kyubey wasn't too fast to [[spoiler: mobilize other magical girls against her]] even though he was implied to know about Oriko's scheme far before taking any actions (considering his ability to read thoughts, anything else would have been surprising, really). When Oriko's plan actually was put into motion, Kyubey [[spoiler: had plenty of opportunity to contract Madoka, while everyone was busy fighting Oriko and Kirika, and Madoka was running from monsters]]. Instead, he went to watch the fight. He didn't care when [[spoiler: Madoka died]], offering no real comments, and treating this event as completely insignificant to him. Most likely (due to being, again, a telepath), he knew very well what Homura is up to. His main goal was forcing Homura to rewind time again, sending her on another cycle of supercharging eventual ultimate-timeline Madoka, and his secondary goal was destroying Oriko, just because he eliminates magical girls who dare to plot against him (and aren't useful to him) on principle. Note, that the final confrontation as it actually happened would have fulfilled both of these goals with any realistic outcome. [[spoiler: Save for Homura's death in battle, but considering the nature of her power, the possibility of her being instantly destroyed before she can go into a timestop or jump timelines again was extremely slim.]]

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Oriko believed that contacting Madoka was a top priority to him, that's why she engineered most of the plot... but Kyubey wasn't too fast to [[spoiler: mobilize other magical girls against her]] even though he was implied to know about Oriko's scheme far before taking any actions (considering his ability to read thoughts, anything else would have been surprising, really). When Oriko's plan actually was put into motion, Kyubey [[spoiler: had plenty of opportunity to contract Madoka, while everyone was busy fighting Oriko and Kirika, and Madoka was running from monsters]]. Instead, he went to watch the fight. He didn't care when [[spoiler: Madoka died]], offering no real comments, and treating this event as completely insignificant to him. Most likely (due to being, again, a telepath), he knew very well what Homura is up to. His main goal was forcing Homura to rewind time again, sending her on another cycle of supercharging eventual ultimate-timeline Madoka, and his secondary goal was destroying Oriko, just because he eliminates magical girls who dare to plot against him (and aren't useful to him) on principle. Note, that the final confrontation as it actually happened would have fulfilled both of these goals with any realistic outcome. [[spoiler: Save for Homura's death in battle, but considering the nature of her power, the possibility of her being instantly destroyed before she can go into a timestop or jump timelines again was extremely slim.]]]]
*hat makes no sense in PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey didn't know Homura was a timetraveller until she killed him with bullets before he could contract Madoka. He can't read thoughts he can communicate telepathically. There is a difference.
12th Nov '11 11:34:39 AM Andyzero
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** Her wish resulted in her oracle ability. The powers that come with wishes tend to subsume them.
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