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There's also the fact that his Japanese name is the same as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_acutiloba a herb]] -- perhaps the ValuesDissonance made the translators decide that his English version is embarrassed of his equally 'flowery' name and make everybody call him Brawly to get away from that?
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There's also the fact that his Japanese name is the same as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_acutiloba a an herb]] -- perhaps the ValuesDissonance made the translators decide that his English version is embarrassed of his equally 'flowery' name and make everybody call him Brawly to get away from that?
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In addition, it is never explicitly made clear whether the two timelines involving Mega Evolution or lack thereof is actually canon. We know that Zinnia isn't an entirely honest or trustworthy person, considering that she goes around the region stealing from people and talking to them in a mischievous manner during the Delta Episode, so it's entirely possible that she made the theory up. After all, she probably couldn't have known about the existence of any alternate timelines unless she had somehow managed to travel to such a dimension in the past, and evidence is provided that she has an active imagination (such as seeming to have imaginary conversations with her Whismur in a rather ComicStrip/{{CalvinAndHobbes}}-esque manner).
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In addition, it is never explicitly made clear whether the two timelines involving Mega Evolution or lack thereof is actually canon. We know that Zinnia isn't an entirely honest or trustworthy person, considering that she goes around the region stealing from people and talking to them in a mischievous manner during the Delta Episode, so it's entirely possible that she made the theory up. After all, she probably couldn't have known about the existence of any alternate timelines unless she had somehow managed to travel to such a dimension in the past, and evidence is provided that she has an active imagination (such as seeming to have imaginary conversations with her Whismur in a rather ComicStrip/{{CalvinAndHobbes}}-esque ComicStrip/{{Calvin And Hobbes}}-esque manner).
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In addition, it is never explicitly made clear whether the two timelines involving Mega Evolution or lack thereof is actually canon. We know that Zinnia isn't an entirely honest or trustworthy person, considering that she goes around the region stealing from people and talking to them in a mischievous manner during the Delta Episode, so it's entirely possible that she made the theory up. After all, she probably couldn't have known about the existence of any alternate timelines unless she had somehow managed to travel to such a dimension in the past, and evidence is provided that she has an active imagination (such as seeming to have imaginary conversations with her Whismur in a rather ComicStrip/{{CalvinAndHobbes}}-esque manner).
We also know that Zinn isn't fond of Steven or the Devon Corporation for whatever reason, so her destroying the device meant to warp the meteoroid away and justifying the act with the timeline theory may well have been done so that they wouldn't be taking credit for saving the world.
We also know that Zinn isn't fond of Steven or the Devon Corporation for whatever reason, so her destroying the device meant to warp the meteoroid away and justifying the act with the timeline theory may well have been done so that they wouldn't be taking credit for saving the world.
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[[WMG: There is no alternate timeline, or at least it isn't simply split between a Mega-Evolution-Universe and a No-Mega-Evolution universe.]]
The timeline theory proposed by Zinnia was made to explain why there are no Mega Evolutions prior to Generation VI. However, it doesn't explain other inconsistencies in the Pokemon continuity such as why given Pokemon are never even mentioned (with a few exceptions such as the implied existence of Regigigas in Hoenn's Sealed Chamber) until the generation in which they are introduced.
There are two possible explanations: The first is that every individual save file of Pokemon could take place in an alternate universe from one another and the owners of multiple games can weld the continuity of their games together in any way they choose (e.g. connecting the events of their X or Y file with their Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire file). The result is many, rather than just two, alternate timelines where Mega Evolution may or may not exist or simply hasn't been discovered in a given time or region.
The second is that every game prior to the release of their remakes (e.g. Ruby and Sapphire before their Gen VI remakes) is a condensed or fabricated version of what actually happened and we are only told what the player character remembers or wants to tell us (e.g. Gen III's Brendan or May may not want to talk about Zinnia because she scared them with her unnerving behavior.
The timeline theory proposed by Zinnia was made to explain why there are no Mega Evolutions prior to Generation VI. However, it doesn't explain other inconsistencies in the Pokemon continuity such as why given Pokemon are never even mentioned (with a few exceptions such as the implied existence of Regigigas in Hoenn's Sealed Chamber) until the generation in which they are introduced.
There are two possible explanations: The first is that every individual save file of Pokemon could take place in an alternate universe from one another and the owners of multiple games can weld the continuity of their games together in any way they choose (e.g. connecting the events of their X or Y file with their Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire file). The result is many, rather than just two, alternate timelines where Mega Evolution may or may not exist or simply hasn't been discovered in a given time or region.
The second is that every game prior to the release of their remakes (e.g. Ruby and Sapphire before their Gen VI remakes) is a condensed or fabricated version of what actually happened and we are only told what the player character remembers or wants to tell us (e.g. Gen III's Brendan or May may not want to talk about Zinnia because she scared them with her unnerving behavior.
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[[WMG: The meteor from the Delta Episode is an alternate version of the one from the Mystery Dungeon games]]
In the Delta Episode, the scientists at the Space Center originally plan to warp the meteor away to another world, but Zinnia stops them because it could potentially end up headed towards a world that couldn't avert the impact, plus they have Rayquaza to blow up meteors in the ''ORAS'' continuity. The protagonist gets drawn into the conflict, catches Rayquaza, and uses Rayquaza's Mega Evolution to blow up the meteor, encountering Deoxys in the process.
Meanwhile, in ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonRescueTeam'', the natural disasters rocking the planet are signs of an impending meteor. The protagonist was brought to this world and turned into a Pokémon to resolve this crisis, which they accomplish by getting Rayquaza to blow up the meteor. Furthermore, the remains of the meteor end up impacting the planet elsewhere (presumably, Rayquaza wasn't able to destroy the meteor as thoroughly since it didn't have the added power boost of a Mega Evolution), creating Meteor Cave, a dungeon populated solely by transparent Deoxys mirages with the ''real'' Deoxys at the bottom.
Given that alternate timelines are officially a thing in the ''Pokémon'' canon (RSE vs ORAS, Black vs White, etc.), what if the meteor in the ''Rescue Team'' games came from an alternate version of ''ORAS'', where Zinnia failed or wasn't around to prevent the scientists from following through?
In the Delta Episode, the scientists at the Space Center originally plan to warp the meteor away to another world, but Zinnia stops them because it could potentially end up headed towards a world that couldn't avert the impact, plus they have Rayquaza to blow up meteors in the ''ORAS'' continuity. The protagonist gets drawn into the conflict, catches Rayquaza, and uses Rayquaza's Mega Evolution to blow up the meteor, encountering Deoxys in the process.
Meanwhile, in ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonRescueTeam'', the natural disasters rocking the planet are signs of an impending meteor. The protagonist was brought to this world and turned into a Pokémon to resolve this crisis, which they accomplish by getting Rayquaza to blow up the meteor. Furthermore, the remains of the meteor end up impacting the planet elsewhere (presumably, Rayquaza wasn't able to destroy the meteor as thoroughly since it didn't have the added power boost of a Mega Evolution), creating Meteor Cave, a dungeon populated solely by transparent Deoxys mirages with the ''real'' Deoxys at the bottom.
Given that alternate timelines are officially a thing in the ''Pokémon'' canon (RSE vs ORAS, Black vs White, etc.), what if the meteor in the ''Rescue Team'' games came from an alternate version of ''ORAS'', where Zinnia failed or wasn't around to prevent the scientists from following through?
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[[WMG: The Weather Trio are a near-extinct race.]]
There actually used to be a bunch of them in the early Earth. Billions of years ago, the Earth used to be a WorldOfChaos, but slowly calmed down as the Kyogres, Groudons and Rayquazi slaughtered one another. The ones you encounter are almost the LastOfTheirKind, with this extinction correlating to Earth's environment becoming stabler and more open to life.
There actually used to be a bunch of them in the early Earth. Billions of years ago, the Earth used to be a WorldOfChaos, but slowly calmed down as the Kyogres, Groudons and Rayquazi slaughtered one another. The ones you encounter are almost the LastOfTheirKind, with this extinction correlating to Earth's environment becoming stabler and more open to life.
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** In the backstory for ''Hoopa and the Clash of the Ages,'' it's revealed that Hoopa would summon increasingly powerful Pokémon and beat the crap out of them as a form of entertainment. When it started summoning dangerous legendaries, its unbound forme was locked away in the prison bottle. So while not directly confirmed, it's still pretty strongly implied.
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* While this a good theory, Falkner, Bugsy, Gardenia, Fantina, Volkner, Cilan, Chili, Cress, and Wulfric don't really sound like legitimate people names either. His name, like all these other ones, is a pun on something related to their Specified type.
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*** Red's name in the original Japanese is Red. Blue's name in the original Japanese is Green. It's the reason Leaf is called Leaf. They couldn't call her Green since the Gary expy already had the name in the original games. It makes perfect sense to those who played the game in any language but Japanese because in those the rival's name is Blue.
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*** Red's name in the original Japanese is Red. Blue's name in the original Japanese is Green. It's the reason Leaf's name was Blue. The real question here is why wasn't Leaf is called Leaf. They couldn't call her Green since the Gary expy already had the name instead in the original games. English version? It makes perfect sense to those who played would fit with the game change that was done in any language but Japanese because in those the rival's name is Blue.
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*** Red's name in the original Japanese is Red. Blue's name in the original Japanese is Green. It's the reason Leaf is called Leaf. They couldn't call her Green since the Gary expy already had the name in the original games. It makes perfect sense to those who played the game in any language but Japanese because in those the rival's name is Blue.
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[[WMG: Deoxys is an alien super-weapon.]]
Out there exists an alien species, which wanted to create an ultimate living weapon to conquer planets. To do so, they engineered a virus that, if exposed to further mutation, becomes a powerful alien. Why make it a virus at first, instead of just an alien straight away? A Trojan Horse. A bunch of virus-carrying meteors would land harmlessly on the planet, would be mutated with a harmless laser, and suddenly you have an army of Deoxys to conquer that world. Not all of these Deoxys wanted to conquer the world, and some were created to keep the peace/ForScience. And unfortunately for anyone trying to invade Earth, [[WorldOfBadass there's dozens of Pokemon with comparable strength, and hundreds more who could fight it.]]
Out there exists an alien species, which wanted to create an ultimate living weapon to conquer planets. To do so, they engineered a virus that, if exposed to further mutation, becomes a powerful alien. Why make it a virus at first, instead of just an alien straight away? A Trojan Horse. A bunch of virus-carrying meteors would land harmlessly on the planet, would be mutated with a harmless laser, and suddenly you have an army of Deoxys to conquer that world. Not all of these Deoxys wanted to conquer the world, and some were created to keep the peace/ForScience. And unfortunately for anyone trying to invade Earth, [[WorldOfBadass there's dozens of Pokemon with comparable strength, and hundreds more who could fight it.]]
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It can't breed with other Pokemon. Out-of-universe, this is to prevent UniquenessDecay. In-universe, this is because Cosplay Pikachu is extremely prudish compared to Pokemon; it refuses to mate with the other Pokemon in the daycare.
It can't breed with other Pokemon. Out-of-universe, this is to prevent UniquenessDecay. In-universe, this is because Cosplay Pikachu is extremely prudish compared to Pokemon; it refuses to mate with the other Pokemon in the daycare.
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Another elephant in the room is the series' timeline. Since the series was rebooted after Gen 2, Game Freak only released games that were either contemporaneous with, alternate versions of, or sequels to the games that came before. RSE and RBY/FRLG happen at the same time, DPPt and GSC/HGSS happen three years later. Judging from the Rocket Grunt's son, BW take place at least six or seven years after [=DPPt=] and GSC/HGSS, and [=B2W2=] happen two years later. In this context, releasing a RSE remake implies one of two things: either the timeline in Pokémon world is looping, or the series is getting a second reboot. Considering all the memorable characters and events the games love to reference, that would be lost, there's serious doubt GF will reboot the series again.
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Another elephant in the room is the series' timeline. Since the series was rebooted after Gen 2, Game Freak only released games that were either contemporaneous with, alternate versions of, or sequels to the games that came before. RSE and RBY/FRLG happen at the same time, DPPt [=DPPt=] and GSC/HGSS happen three years later. Judging from the Rocket Grunt's son, BW take place at least six or seven years after [=DPPt=] and GSC/HGSS, and [=B2W2=] happen two years later. In this context, releasing a RSE remake implies one of two things: either the timeline in Pokémon world is looping, or the series is getting a second reboot. Considering all the memorable characters and events the games love to reference, that would be lost, there's serious doubt GF will reboot the series again.
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Another elephant in the room is the series' timeline. Since the series was rebooted after Gen 2, Game Freak only released games that were either contemporaneous with, alternate versions of, or sequels to the games that came before. RSE and RBY/FRLG happen at the same time, DPPt and GSC/HGSS happen three years later. Judging from the Rocket Grunt's son, BW take place at least six or seven years after DPPt and GSC/HGSS, and B2W2 happen two years later. In this context, releasing a RSE remake implies one of two things: either the timeline in Pokémon world is looping, or the series is getting a second reboot. Considering all the memorable characters and events the games love to reference, that would be lost, there's serious doubt GF will reboot the series again.
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Another elephant in the room is the series' timeline. Since the series was rebooted after Gen 2, Game Freak only released games that were either contemporaneous with, alternate versions of, or sequels to the games that came before. RSE and RBY/FRLG happen at the same time, DPPt and GSC/HGSS happen three years later. Judging from the Rocket Grunt's son, BW take place at least six or seven years after DPPt [=DPPt=] and GSC/HGSS, and B2W2 [=B2W2=] happen two years later. In this context, releasing a RSE remake implies one of two things: either the timeline in Pokémon world is looping, or the series is getting a second reboot. Considering all the memorable characters and events the games love to reference, that would be lost, there's serious doubt GF will reboot the series again.
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[[WMG: Zinnia was the human Aster's mother]]
* Zinnia constantly uses hypocorisms towards Aster the Whismur, in particular she outright refers to the Whismur as her daughter.
* Zinnia constantly uses hypocorisms towards Aster the Whismur, in particular she outright refers to the Whismur as her daughter.
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[[WMG: Zinnia is a case of OlderThanTheyLook.]]
* Zinnia's model is young-looking, maybe 18, but her official art looks adult. There's a line in the Team M/aqua Hideout:
--> '''Zinnia:''' Aren't you a happy girl, Aster? ♪ Just what I'd expect of my ''daughter!''
* Emphasis mine. Lots of people treat their Pokemon as friends, but I don't think anyone has used familial terms for them. It's possible that the original Aster was Zinnia's daughter and Aster the Whismur is [[DeadGuyJunior named for her]]. This puts [[SadClown a new spin]] on [[StepfordSmiler her behavior]] during the game.
* Zinnia's model is young-looking, maybe 18, but her official art looks adult. There's a line in the Team M/aqua Hideout:
--> '''Zinnia:''' Aren't you a happy girl, Aster? ♪ Just what I'd expect of my ''daughter!''
* Emphasis mine. Lots of people treat their Pokemon as friends, but I don't think anyone has used familial terms for them. It's possible that the original Aster was Zinnia's daughter and Aster the Whismur is [[DeadGuyJunior named for her]]. This puts [[SadClown a new spin]] on [[StepfordSmiler her behavior]] during the game.
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** Also confirmed with the personalities and motives of Teams Magma and Aqua being expanded on.
** Semi-Jossed. Overworld DexNav encounters play similarly to phenomena, though trade- and stone-exclusive Pokémon won't be available with this method.
** Proper time implementation confirmed; it has been carried over from Gen IV.
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[[WMG: Kanto will return in Gen VI]]
* It's a throwback to Gen III when Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire were released along with Pokemon FireRed and Pokemon Leafgreen. While there was a fancier remake of Ruby and Sapphire known as Pokemon Emerald, there was no remake of Pokemon Yellow. Since this is Gen VI, with Pokemon X and Y are released as the main game and Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as the cool remake, I believe that Pokemon Yellow will return to start a new pattern to Nintendo's Pokemon algorithm.
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* It's a throwback to Gen III when Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire were released along with Pokemon FireRed and Pokemon Leafgreen. While there was a fancier remake of Ruby and Sapphire known as Pokemon Emerald, there was no remake of Pokemon Yellow. Since this is Gen VI, with Pokemon X and Y are released as the main game and Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as the cool remake, I believe that Pokemon Yellow will return to start a new pattern to Nintendo's Pokemon algorithm.
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[[WMG: Team Magma and Team Aqua picked the wrong orbs]]
Now, this could be myself getting confused as how the orbs are depicted in the different kinds of Pokemon canon, but something that always caught my attention is that, in the original pair of Hoenn games, Archie and Maxie pick the Red and Blue orb to awaken the primarily-blue and primarily-red legendary pokemon, respectively. This is not the case in the remakes (In which they could be excused in that they underwent Primal Reversion), which points out that the Blue Orb is Kyogre's and the Red one is Groudon's.
Another thing of interest is how Kyogre/Groudon reacted to each orb - when exposed to the Red/Blue Orb, they pretty much immediately got out of control and started to cause trouble, but when exposed to the other orb, they merely approach the player character and challenge him/her to a battle. My guess is that Kyogre/Groudon, upon getting exposed to the Red/Blue Orb, assumed that its counterpart was awake (It wasn't), got angry and jumped out to get the upper hand in the water vs. land battle.
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* If you look at those portals the Pokemon appear from, they look almost identical to the ones that Hoopa is supposedly able to generate.
* If you look at those portals the Pokemon appear from, they look almost identical to the ones that Hoopa is supposedly able to generate.
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[[WMG: Glacia is originally from Kalos]]
She mentions being from a foreign land, and due to her Ice-type specialty it's possible that she comes from somewhere in Mountain Kalos. Snowbelle City is particularly fitting. If so, she's probably Wulfric's daughter as well.
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*** Not just "in Sinnoh"--Regigigas was found in Snowpoint Temple, an ice-filled dungeon in the coldest part of Sinnoh. It seems likely that Regigigas's habitat is in the cold.
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[[WMG: Flannery is a secret Team Magma sympathizer/spy/sleeper agent]]
Being young and brash, maybe she was enraptured by their ideals and persuaded into joining their cause, believing it to be just. Maybe she has a hidden love for the idea of covering the land in fire, and a hidden hatred for Team Aqua. It fits her whole fire motif.
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Being young and brash, maybe she was enraptured by their ideals and persuaded into joining their cause, believing it to be just. Maybe she has a hidden love for the idea of covering the land in fire, and a hidden hatred for Team Aqua. It fits her whole fire motif.
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Being young and brash, maybe she was enraptured by their ideals and persuaded into joining their cause, believing it to be just. Maybe she has a hidden love for the idea of covering the land in fire, and a hidden hatred for Team Aqua. It fits her whole fire motif.
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[[WMG: Zinnia mocks Steven during Delta Episode because she's genre savvy]]
* We already know that Zinnia is aware of the Pokemon world having alternate universes for the original games and the remakes. This could also mean she's aware of how defeated champions historically hang onto their thrones infinitely, because {{Playable Epilogue}} wasn't a thing yet. In other words, Steven is a symbol for status quo. Meanwhile, Zinnia is doing all she can to avert disaster, '''changing''' her attire, '''changing''' her plans on the spot, and accepting that her role has '''changed''' from {{the chosen one}} to just {{the chooser of the one}}. Therefore, Zinnia sees Steven to be everyone she isn't, which is why she keeps reminding him that he is a former champion and not a current one: because if Steven didn't keep that in mind, then he'd just continuously challenge the player character without end.
* We already know that Zinnia is aware of the Pokemon world having alternate universes for the original games and the remakes. This could also mean she's aware of how defeated champions historically hang onto their thrones infinitely, because {{Playable Epilogue}} wasn't a thing yet. In other words, Steven is a symbol for status quo. Meanwhile, Zinnia is doing all she can to avert disaster, '''changing''' her attire, '''changing''' her plans on the spot, and accepting that her role has '''changed''' from {{the chosen one}} to just {{the chooser of the one}}. Therefore, Zinnia sees Steven to be everyone she isn't, which is why she keeps reminding him that he is a former champion and not a current one: because if Steven didn't keep that in mind, then he'd just continuously challenge the player character without end.
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