History WMG / Pinocchio

Notice how the coachman is implied to be a [[AmbiguouslyHuman nonhuman being]] mostly because of his four-fingered hands, his preferred method of punishing children, which may involve magic and his memorable NightmareFace. Since he's strongly implied to be the freaking devil himself, and we all know that the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon's UltimateEvil and own version of Satan is [[{{WesternAnimation/Fantasia}} Chernabog]] himself, it's safe to assume both characters are one and the same. But how? You may wonder given Chernabog himself is a SealedEvilInACan who is encased in Bald Mountain every morning and is only allowed to reveal himself at nighttime, it'd be impossible for him to leave the place. However, he possesses some decidedly EldritchAbomination qualities, so it's probably possible that, like good ol' Nyarlathotep (i know he's not sealed, but [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyarlathotep#Table_of_forms has made several avatars for himself]]) he has created many avatars of himself as well to spread chaos and evil in a more efficient way, the coachman being one of them.

This came from a page on Wiki/TVTropes that states that some of the people he hired would expect to be paid. He's actually ''losing money'' rather than gaining. How's that for LaserGuidedKarma?

It would explain why Ghepetto is sad all the time and makes clocks. The themes of the clocks also serve as a clue. There are multiple references to women, children, and hunting. In fact, these clocks almost seem like they are telling their own story, the story of how Ghepetto's wife and son died. This is why he wants a real boy.

* We [[NoNameGiven never learn]] [[EverybodyCallsHimBarkeep his name,]] either. It was believed that if you [[IKnowYourTrueName know a fairy's true name]], you have some sort of power over them.

After helping Pinocchio, Jiminy went on to mentor a young [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Claude Frollo]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]], [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe Miss Hattie]], [[ComicBook/XMen Magneto]], various [[Franchise/JamesBond Bond villains]], and countless other notable individuals who were as prim and proper as they were cold-hearted bastards.

[[WMG: The world itself is the film's [[BiggerBad true villain]], not the antagonists.]]

The Fairy's job is to reward good behavior, such as giving Geppetto a son after he's spent his life making others happy, and turning Pinocchio into a real boy when he proves worthy. The Coachman, on the other hand, is there to punish evil behavior. That's why he gets to be a KarmaHoudini; like the Fairy he is a supernatural being fulfilling a function (as [[CrapSaccharineWorld horrifying as it is]]). That's why the Fairy said she would be unable to help Pinocchio after the Stromboli incident, but later appeared as a bird to offer him a hint. She [[GenreSavvy knew]] Pinnochio was going up against the Coachman next, and she is forbidden to interfere with him; Pinocchio is on his own for that ordeal. Once he gets away, she can again offer aid.

This would explain Honest John's theatrical persona. He and Gideon were a performing duo on stage in both plays and vaudeville, but have been out of work recently. That's why they're resorting to being con artists during tough times in order to survive.

[[WMG: HONEST JOHN AND GIDEON ARE OUT OF WORK ACTORS]]

This would explain Honest John's theatrical persona. He and GIDEON were a performing duo on stage in both plays and vaudeville, but have been out of work recently. That's why they're resorting to being con artists during tough times in order to survive.

HONEST JOHN AND GIDEON ARE OUT OF WORK ACTORS

's dying dream. The dove that drops the note is actually an angel of death who guides him and Pinochio towards the afterlife. Gepetto, Figaro, and Cleo really did go to sea looking for him and were swallowed by Monstro but they did not survive. The entire ending is a cricket's interpretation of going through the afterlife with Pinochio turning into a real boy the "light" at the end of the tunnel.

After helping Pinocchio, Jiminy went on to mentor a young [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Claude Frollo]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]], [[Disney/DespicableMe Miss Hattie]], [[ComicBook/XMen Magneto]], various [[Franchise/JamesBond Bond villains]], and countless other notable individuals who were as prim and proper as they were cold-hearted bastards.

Notice how the coachman is implied to be a [[AmbiguouslyHuman nonhuman being]] mostly because of his four-fingered hands, his preferred method of punishing children, which may involve magic and his memorable NightmareFace. Since he's strongly implied to be the freaking devil himself, and we all know that the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon's UltimateEvil and own version of Satan is [[{{Disney/Fantasia}} Chernabog]] himself, it's safe to assume both characters are one and the same. But how? You may wonder given Chernabog himself is a SealedEvilInACan who is encased in Bald Mountain every morning and is only allowed to reveal himself at nighttime, it'd be impossible for him to leave the place. However, he possesses some decidedly EldritchAbomination qualities, so it's probably possible that, like good ol' Nyarlathotep (i know he's not sealed, but [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyarlathotep#Table_of_forms has made several avatars for himself]]) he has created many avatars of himself as well to spread chaos and evil in a more efficient way, the coachman being one of them.

Sure, When Walter Elias Disney Made this Film in 1940 and he let that bad guy escaped [[KarmaHoudini Scott-Free]] with all the Donkey-Fied Kids, he taught us a moral lesson that the real world, our world is full of criminals and bad people that got away with their crimes.

He's AmbiguouslyHuman, does bad things to naughty kids and is the most evil character in the movie. He's Satan, specifically the LawfulEvil interpretation of punishing evil ala tormenting sinners in Hell while also still being evil himself. He doesn't need the money, it's just a cover to hide that he punishes sinners and a means of tempting adult sinners. His workers are demons, and the four fingers is a bit of GlamourFailure.

She created those evil and terrifying figures just to scare Pinocchio into Goodness.

In reality, Pinocchio did [[KilledOffForReal not come back to life]] after being killed by Monstro. Grief-stricken, Gepetto is unable to truly move on from his son's death, even years later. Eventually, old age catches up the heartbroken woodcarver and he dies in his sleep of natural causes. However, he gets one final dream before his death. The ending we see in the film is actually a dying Gepetto reminiscing the night he said goodbye to his lost son before disposing the body (for simplicity sake, let's say he buried him) but with a twist that Pinocchio was brought back to life as a real boy. (This would also explain why Gepetto initially [[NotNowWereTooBusyCryingOverYou thinks Pinocchio is dead even when he's talking to him.]] In actuality, it supposed to represent that's Pinocchio's spirit is coming down to get his father so they can finally reunite in the afterlife. As for Figaro, Cleo, and Jiminy in the dream, they're probably dead too and with Pinocchio, Gepetto having outlived them all most likely. Dark WMG I know but eh...

After twenty or thirty years someone finally noticed that little boys were going missing and the Coachman suspiciously had a never-ending supply of donkeys. After Pleasure Island is finally liberated, the law enforcement demand to know why Pinocchio and Jimmeny Cricket never bothered to mention it to anybody. Pinocchio explains that they were really, really busy fighting Monstro the Whale, while Jimmeny just cracks a typical '30s wisecrack along the lines of "I knew we were forgetting ''something!''"

[[WMG: Jimmeny Cricket went on to become the conscience for many AffablyEvil villains.]]
Jimmy Cricket's idea of being a "conscience" is to scold Pinocchio for missing school, smoking, and [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking "playing pool!"]], but says [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse nothing about all the boys-turned-donkeys being sold into slavery]]. Pinocchio never experiences any remorse over the "best friend" who begged him for help. When he's reminded of his donkey ears and tail upon reuniting with his father, he simply laughs about having ears and a tail; his "conscience" says nothing about the boys on Pleasure Island. Basically, Jimmeny Cricket's idea of "morality" is self-preservation, and that's it.

After helping Pinocchio, Jimmeny went on to mentor a young [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Claude Frollo]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]], [[Disney/DespicableMe Miss Hattie]], [[ComicBook/XMen Magneto]], various [[Franchise/JamesBond Bond villains]], and countless other notable individuals who were as prim and proper as they were cold-hearted bastards.

After helping Pinocchio, Jimmeny went on to mentor a young [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Claude Frollo]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]], [[Disney/DespicableMe Miss Hattie]], [[Series/XMen Magneto]], various [[Series/JamesBond Bond villains,]] and countless other notable individuals who were as prim and proper as they were cold-hearted bastards.

Not sure what this says about the Blue Fairy, though. Maybe she's in the Seelie Court while Coachman is in the Unseelie. I don't know.

After helping Pinocchio, Jimmeny went on to mentor a young [[DisneyAnimatedCanon/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Claude Frollo]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Dolores Umbridge]], [[DisneyAnimatedCanon/DespicableMe Miss Hattie]], [[Series/XMen Magneto]], various [[Series/JamesBond Bond villains,]] and countless other notable individuals who were as prim and proper as they were cold-hearted bastards.

Notice how the coachman is implied to be a [[Main/AmbiguouslyHuman nonhuman being]] mostly because of his four-fingered hands, his preferred method of punishing children, which may involve magic and his memorable NightmareFace. Since he's strongly implied to be the freaking devil himself, and we all know that the DisneyAnimatedCanon's UltimateEvil and own version of Satan is [[{{Disney/Fantasia}} Chernabog]] himself, it's safe to assume both characters are one and the same. But how? You may wonder given Chernabog himself is a SealedEvilInACan who is encased in Bald Mountain every morning and is only allowed to reveal himself at nighttime, it'd be impossible for him to leave the place. However, he possesses some decidedly EldritchAbomination qualities, so it's probably possible that, like good ol' Nyarlathotep (i know he's not sealed, but [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyarlathotep#Table_of_forms has made several avatars for himself]]) he has created many avatars of himself as well to spread chaos and evil in a more efficient way, the coachman being one of them.

[[WMG: The Coachman is IMMeen's father]]

[[WMG: Donkey from {{Shrek}} is one of the kids from Pleasure Island who could still talk]]

[[WMG: The Coachman is a member of TheFairFolk]]

* What makes you think he's paying them? For all we know, the people he hired could only be working for him becuase he's, say, [[{{Blackmail}} blackmailing]] them, or even [[ImpliedDeathThreat threatening their lives.]]

* Good one! That's why they "never come back as boys". The transformations are temporary and they might be put to work for that period (e.g. pulling the carriage), but once they change back they amend their lives. He might even bluff to them that "next time you'll be a donkey FOREVER."

** Good one! That's why they "never come back as boys". The transformations are temporary and once they change back they amend their lives. He might even bluff to them that "next time you'll be a donkey FOREVER."

He's not really selling the boys away to do hard slave labour. The entire thing is an act. He's a hard working man that despises the hooligans that make up the new generation, and so he is taking it upon himself to teach them a lesson they won't forget. He set up the donkey transformations, and the scene Jiminy witnessed was staged. After taking the boys off the island, they thought they were going to be put to back-breaking labour, but instead, they find themselves turned back to normal, and are then lectured by the Coachman about the payoffs of good behaviour. As for his conversation with Honest John and Gideon... Um...Heat of the moment?