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Aigis: Minerva

[[WMG:Aigis houses the soul of the other protagonist]]
Maybe that's why Aigis can gain Orpheus and the Wild Card.

Minako, for the Mythology Gag and the fact she the only other protagonist with a Gay Option.
Aigis, because of her urge to protect both protagonist. In the end, Aigis can't stop their fates in the end of The Journey.

[[WMG:Junpei will become {{Deadpool}}]]

* So the Main Character is only Orpheus/Jesus in the world where they are dead, but they become Orpheus/Jesus because they ''are'' Orpheus/Jesus in the other world. This isn't just EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory, this is [[SchrodingersCat Schrodinger's Jesus In Purgatory!]]

[[WMG:The Anti-Shadow Robots are based off of [[RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy Rasputin.]]]]

[[WMG:The MC is a descendant of [[RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy Raidou Kuzunoha.]]]]

** Junpei's out of the running thanks to Chidori (and let's just hope [[ShotaCon Ken]]'s not an option), but Akihiko seems to be available. And if anybody needs to be dragged out on a date, [[ShrinkingViolet it's him]]...

[[WMG:Alternatively, [[SoylentGreen Weird Takoyaki is people]].]]

In the game, Mitsuru mentions that her parents had an arranged marriage but learned to love each other. So why would Mitsuru's mother be gone even before the events of The Journey take place? Answer: She was horrified about the fact that her daughter would be used to combat shadows. But unfortunately for her mother, she didn't really have any choice in the situation. Especially since:

* Possibly jossed by the fourth movie, if you see its information as canon (though the movie itself is not). When [[spoiler:Yukari's persona tries to kill her,]] Akihiko says that it's possible the reason is that she "no longer cares about her existence." Also, the incident occurs directly after she thinks that if she dies she may be able to see her father. That said, it may be a difference between passive ideation (just considering it without active plans) vs. actual plans/actions, given that she [[spoiler:hadn't been eating for a couple of days]], and {{YMMV}} anyway since this is from the movies.

* Possibly jossed by the fourth movie, if you see its information as canon (though the movie itself is not). When [[spoiler: Yukari's persona tries to kill her,]] Akihiko says that it's possible the reason is that she "no longer cares about her existence." Also, the incident occurs directly after she thinks that if she dies she may be able to see her father. That said, it may be a difference between passive ideation (just considering it without active plans) vs. actual plans/actions, given that she [[spoiler: hadn't been eating for a couple of days]], and [[YMMV YMMV]] anyway since this is from the movies.

The second will continue ’'The Journey'' until its conclusion.

** The Malevolent Entity who uses men and gods as masks; is not finished. He [[{{Videogame/Persona4}} manipulated Izanami]] into trying to bring about the Fall again. Igor shut this down with another young man; who forced the Myriad Truths of the world at Izanami. Perhaps she understood in the end she was being used; and gave up her role; costing the Malevolent Entity a piece. Much like how YAWHEH was co-opted by Messiah; Igor spiritually subsumes Izanami into Kusumi-no-Okami aka Marie.

** This has frightening implications in The Answer... [[spoiler: Did they somehow kill him mid-nap?]]

* MC goes through the game touching peoples lives in a highly meaningful way, there are 12 persona users counting Strega, [[spoiler: one of three faces of Death sealed inside him, analogous to the holy trinity,]] and at the end of the game [[spoiler: ascends to the heavens and sacrifices himself to save humanity.]] In addition, Takaya can be seen as analogous to the Antichrist: [[spoiler: he leads a cult that, essentially, teaches nihilism and is obsessed with the coming apocalypse, and is a rather large opponent to SEES.]] When [[spoiler: Nyx finally comes, people in this cult die, which is similar to the concept of being raptured away.]] The parables are a bit heavier than mere appearance... And the MC is the biggest MessianicArchetype ever.

[[WMG:The last person to use the Great Seal was [[spoiler: Jesus]]]]
''Persona 3'' has all sorts of religious symbolism, but let's take away the allegory and instead treat it all like literal history. Two thousand years ago, the world reached a point of despair that began Nyx's summoning, and a group of persona users, including their leader who also used the persona Messiah, fought to stop it. Eventually Nyx awakened, and people all over the world were pulled into the Dark Hour just as they were in P3, resulting in the story that darkness descended upon the world. The hero ascended and confronted Nyx, and used the Great Seal. Having made a promise to meet his friends again in three days, he returned from the battle with Nyx and seemed to have come back from the dead. But the Great Seal caught up with him and he died again, which his followers took as an ascension to Heaven. His name was [[spoiler: Jesus]] and, while the story of the last battle with Nyx got mixed up over the centuries, his soul protected the seal until the Kirijo Group started the mess all over again. That's right, [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory everyone is Minato in the Abyss of Time]]!

In ''FES'', the player can potentially avert [[spoiler: Chidori]]'s PlotlineDeath. ''[=P3P=]'' lets you save [[spoiler: Shinjiro]] from ''their'' PlotlineDeath. Clearly, each new version of the game will add the ability to save somebody else, ultimately leading to a [[GoldenEnding Golden Game]] where the player can '''finally''' save [[spoiler: the main character]].

In FES, the game states "Your cold worsened because you are tired". This means you always have a cold, no matter if your status is good or great. Thus, having a cold for the entire game, the [[spoiler: Main Character dies]] because the cold was simply too powerful.

[[spoiler: The MC really just fell asleep.]] Think about it. The Answer begins on March 31, a few minutes before midnight and just gets crazier and crazier after that.

In the Male Protagonist's story (though in the Female Protagonist's Story, [[spoiler: he survived, but he might die later]]), Shinjiro died at October 4th and lost his ability to summon his Persona. Heaven reconized his deeds and his sacrifice that he was appointed as first-class archbishop and Chief Inquisitor of SSVD, and was given the ability to enforce Van Dine's Commandments. As part of SSVD, Shinjiro changed his appearance and was given a new name, Willard H. Wright. But similar to his action in the Past, he quit SSVD just as he quit SEES, but the reason he quit SSVD is because of their brutal standards.

In Persona 3 Portable, the action text involving Takaya's gun occasionally says things like "raised his Evoker" (as seen [[http://youtu.be/_GHXR_bdgq4?t=9m13s here]], spoiler alert) even though he summons his Persona by clutching over in pain, and he uses his gun to, you know, shoot things. This seems like an obvious error to make...so assume it's not an error. Instead, his revolver is related to the Evokers, but rather than being used to face death via fake suicide, it uses the power of Persona to force death upon others, or grant the (sub)conscious death wishes of others. This more or less just makes it a more effective gun. [[spoiler:That is, one that can kill Shinjiro permanently.]] As for why [[spoiler: it doesn't kill the party when they fight Takaya, or Shinjiro if [=FeMC's=] Moon link is maxed, it probably has to do with Shinjiro being prepared to die, with the party being in a combat mentality, or with the watch being something symbolic.]]

As the Female Protagonist, two great changes you are able to make from the original game are [[spoiler: the options to save Shinjiro and bring Chidori back to life]]. In addition, [[spoiler: the only reference Persona 3 Portable has to The Answer is the challenges and fight with Margaret you can access in the Abyss of Time.]] It could be that [[spoiler: the possibility of the Protagonist becoming the Seal may be less likely now that there are two protagonists in different time lines that could be linked together by Philemon. Margaret also seems to be well aware of the Protagonist beforehand, so it's possible she knows of their existence through either Elizabeth or Theodore and could have gone back in time to set up a challenge with him/her. Margaret says that attendants in the Velvet Room are not bound by time, making it likely that they can travel backwards through it as well. If the existence of the Female Protagonist is part of grander scheme, it may have something to do with the Seal, reversing the deaths of two important characters, or something that will be examined in Persona 5]]. I'm just saying, Philemon's butterfly motif and how this reality he watches over is influenced by a "butterfly effect" can't just be a coincidence.

Likewise, Theodore is FeMC's animus. Read up on Jungian psychology a bit and it makes sense. The anima/animus manifests primarily in dreams; represents and influences a person's actions towards the opposite sex; and coming to terms with it by developing an emotional bond and realizing her/him as a fully-developed character is considered a 'masterpiece' of an individual's personal development. The reason s/he never really [[spoiler: figured out who or what s/he was is because the protagonists weren't allowed to come completely to term with their complexes before their time was up.]]

[[WMG:Shinjiro and the Female Main Character [[spoiler: die together at the end]].]]
Think about it... they're the game's greatest {{Determinator}}s, with October 4th and January 31 being the "proving" dates for each one respectively, and since [[spoiler: Takaya states that Shinjiro doesn't have much time left on October 4]], those two facts combined make March 5 doubly poignant for him. [[spoiler: He busted out of the hospital to go see her, and then his shortened lifespan ended with hers.]] This would have made "The Answer" even harder to reconcile to a female lead, given the greater BittersweetEnding.

[[WMG: Minato met other people with the potential]]

[[WMG: The arcana is the true self]]

[[WMG: The Reaper is Tatsuya Sudou of VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}]]

[[WMG: Mitsuru and Yukari got pregnant by Minato]]

[[WMG:When Aragaki Shinjiro died, he became [[{{UminekoNoNakuKoroNi}} Willard H. Wright.]]]]

[[WMG:The Persona users in Persona 3 are all suicidal]]

[[WMG:Akihiko's great grandfather is really Baldren Gassenarl from ValkyriaChroniclesII.]]

[[WMG:[[BonusBoss The Reaper]] is [[SoulEater Death the Kid]] or a twisted double of him.]]

* Point the second: ''Persona4Arena'' reveals that the Kirijo group (and possibly others) has artifacts that can create a Dark Hour, which aside from not necessarily taking place at midnight otherwise appears identical to that produced by Tartarus, complete with humans retreating into coffins and freaky green light.

* Jossed as of Persona4Arena. Minato is ''still'' on the seal, and Erebus resurrects every year, stronger than ever. But Elizabeth is on [[CurbStompBattle Curb Stomp]] duty, and is looking for a way to save him.

The first time you go into Tartarus is on 4/20. After several months of constant substance abuse, you finally break the habit at the end of January, only to go into deep withdrawl which leaves you massively exhausted. After giving into your withdrawl during a graduation party, you OD and die.

No matter what dimension, not matter what world, there is always the potential for the Mother of Death to awake so as to destroy and recreate the world. Mostly, she works through intermediaries who [[OmnicidalManiac desire]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds death]]-but there is at least one where her avatar was brought to quiescence and eventually full wakefulness. In it, she has many names-the All-Devourer, the Destroyer, the Mother of Ghosts-but the one most people call her by is [[{{Orpheus}} Grandmother]].

After dying twice in Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, what little remains of Sudou's existence is collected by Nyarlathotep, who tightens his grip on him and repurposes the deranged arsonist an avatar of death, stalking places where the darkness of humanity gathers en masse.

With only the tattered coat of King Leo and a burlap sack which serves to mock his failed crusade as "JOKER", which also allows him to see and covers his burned eye, Sudou is forever chained to willingly serve Nyarlathotep and hunt Persona users in the dwellings formed of darkness forever.

[[WMG:There is only one seal needed]]

Persona 4 brings in the idea of a shadow self which, through acceptance, becomes your Persona. The reason these shadows are never seen in Persona 3 is because through use of the Evokers, the cast is symbolically accepting and facing that this is a part of themselves. We are never really informed of the protagonist's life between the incident 10 years ago and when the game begins, but the loss of his parents could have led to many reasons to support this. Yukari lost her father and doesn't get along with her mother, and is shown displaying a distrust of the world at large. This isolation could also lead to wanting to die. Junpei's homelife is also unpleasant, and his feeling of inadequacy is shown a lot in the beginning of the game. Akihiko and Shinjiro are orphans, and combined with the loss of Miki, could wish to be dead as well. Mitsuru has a ton of pressure to live up to her family, and to live with what her family has done. Fuuka directly says her parents pressure her, and was being bullied in an extreme way before her persona awakening. Ken's loss of his mother could also lead to this. Koromaru's caretaker dies, leaving him is a similar situation, but being unable to use a gun evoker would conflict with this theory. Aigis could be and exception as well, but could be programmed with a suicidal personality. The memebers of Strega were both altered via drugs and have to deal with the consequences of this tampering, leaving mental issues aplenty, and would likely fit this theory best.

[[WMG:The skill "Thug's Punch" is wind-based.]]
Now, what element was Junpei weak against?