History WMG / OuranHighSchoolHostClub

[[WMG: Haruhi is related to [[LightNovel/BakaToTestToShoukanjuu Hideyoshi]]]]

They're both clearly intended to be the [[PrincelyYoungMan cutout prince character]] of every shoujo series (Which, if the way Tamaki's dad acted near the finale is any indication, [[ItRunsInTheFamily runs in the family]]), but they're also these huge [[{{Adorkable}} dorks]] who rather quickly develop a crush on the main girl who's shown as more competent at them (Zakuro at fighting Youkai, Haruhi at... being an OnlySaneMan among a bunch of wierdos.) and... well, they [[IdenticalGrandson look similar.]] Plus OYZ takes place in the Meiji Era and Ouran takes place in the present. Considering Tamaki's half Japanese, theoretically if Kei and Zakuro's kids intermarried with enough humans for the Youkai-ness to wear off over the generations, this could work. (Or, hell, maybe Tamaki has Youkai powers and just doesn't know it yet.)

[[WMG: Kyouya and [[Eyeshield21 Hiruma]] are long-lost brothers]]

[[WMG: Kyouya ''does'' consider himself and Tamaki to be PlatonicLifePartners.]]
...But he considers himself to be the fiscally responsible, emotionally [[EmotionSuppression stable]] father and ''Tamaki'' to be the emotionally wild [[UpperClassTwit heiress]] mother who provides direct care for the children. If only Tamaki referred to himself as the mommy and Kyouya as the daddy, Kyouya would gladly endorse it.

And that's why Usa-chan blushes, and Yasuchika saw it move on its own.

Then he wasn't trying hard...

And Tamaki is the least

Notice in the scene where the entire Host Club dresses in drag in response to the Zuka CLub, Kyouya is the only one whose makeup actually looks good, and could actually somewhat pass for a woman. This seems to indicate he has experience applying womens' makeup and gussying up. He just never partakes in this hobby publicly as he is slightly embarrassed of it and it wouldn't exactly make the Ootori family look good if the youngest son is publicly in drag on a regular basis.

The ''only'' two major characters in the ''entire'' show who seem to have ever had mothers are Tamaki and Haruhi (the latter of which is not from a wealthy noble family, and the former of which [[spoiler: is illegitimate]]). None of the mothers of any of the other hosts or their associates are ever seen, even in situations where you'd think they'd be around. Quite possibly they just don't exist. Instead, the kids' fathers had their children specially engineered in labs in the style of ''Literature/BraveNewWorld'', and any genetic resemblances are the result of their fathers' contributing DNA to the projects.
* Other than the fact that the twin's mother is shown in the manga and they even say that the name Hitachiin comes from her side. There is also a chapter about their grandmother.

* This isn't a WMG. It's confirmed in the epilogue. It makes too much sense.

[[WMG: Tamaki is actually a very powerful wizard]]

* Any woman will fall in love with him. Even Haruhi. (This is necromancy)
** Haruhi asks herself when she first hears Tamaki's voice why it is so persuading, wondering ''is it wizardry''? The answer is yes.

* In the Alice in Wonderland chapter of the Manga, he is actually a banished wizard, who has the ability to conjure up a griffin familiar. [[http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z379/Isabella_Mustashio/summongriffin_zpse557e0b8.jpg Shown here]] However, in the very next chapter, we see a griffin badge adorning Tamaki's outfit. Coincidence - I THINK NOT. That suggests that the entire Alice in Wonderland incident actually happened, and thus Tamaki's wizard powers transfer into the real world.

* He references his true magical power in his character song Guilty Beauty Love:
** ''Even so, it's fair to say I still found a way to cast my spell on you''

** Kaoru also refers to a spell cast on a carriage in several episodes of the anime, cast by Tamaki. Of course, it's a metaphor, but... is ''all'' of it a metaphor?

[[WMG: Benio is actually a man.]]
I have watched this anime about ten times (five times for each the English and Japanese dubs), and I '''still''' think Benio is really a man. I think Benio's mom got herself artificially inseminated when she decided she wanted a child because the Academy, or at least the Zuka Club of which nearly all of them are members, seems to teach pretty hefty misandry, and was disappointed that her baby was male, and so Benio was RaisedAsTheOppositeGender and always registered as a girl. Benio's voice is pretty husky, even lower than most of the the Host Club (Hikaru, Kaoru, Haruhi, and Honey all have varying degrees of higher voices than she does in the English version), so it's somewhat possible. Benio's also always dressing as a man whenever the chance arises, even though Benio and virtually everyone else at the school are supposed to hate men (which of course begs the question of why male characters are even included in their plays). Even outside the plays, Benio is always portrayed as dressing male (such as when the members of the Academy were introducing themselves and talking about the school; Benio was dressed as a man complete with a mustache).

They pretty much [[OffscreenTeleportation teleport]] at one point and certainly aren't particularly friendly...

All stuffed animals are.
* [[EverythingsBetterWithPlushies No, you are, meanieface]] ;_;
* Re-watch some of the episodes. I've seen some rather... questionable... facial expressions on that bunny. I'm watchin' you, Usa-chan.

* What's wrong with taking naps? You got something against naps?
** I could be wrong, but it's all developmental. The kid still has his "security blanket" in the stuffed rabbit, still needs an "older brother" figure to cart him everywhere, and naps? Unless you're really tired, how often do you take naps in the real world? At seventeen most of us were getting ready to head out into the real world and get ready for life, but this kid was still acting like a kindergartener.
*** Please, I'm barely 18 and I take naps most days. It mostly springs from me staying up really late, like most high schoolers. Plus, mid day naps are fairly common place in some places.
* Forget the naps, Honey still acting like a child, and as the manga shows, takes pills to keep him looking like a child shows perhaps he has unresolved issues...
** The pills were only in a dream sequence.

[[WMG: ''Hani'' is ObfuscatingStupidity.]]
His [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Superpowered Serious Side]] is what he's really like. He likes Mori but knows he'd feel useless without having shota-kid Honey to protect, and also enjoys being able to fill a niche in the Host club, and still gets plenty of attention while eating cake and having fun. (Note: In the BeachEpisode, Tamaki as much as pointed it out to Haruhi.) Usa-chan is just there to reinforce the image.
* That means each member of the host club is hiding their true selves because of social restrictions or past experiences, and it's Haruhi that finally unlocks all of their emotions by the very end of the series.
** This (the first response) is seemingly the canon story path of the manga, with the "walls" references. (Original poster here) The guess was meant to apply to the anime, but it works for both.

* Problem is she isn't all flat. In episode 22 of the anime Kasanoda accidentally sees her changing and she obviously has some chest. Now there's a possibility that she's a he in other areas, but that would mean 'it' was changed in their upper regions in their early teens.
** Can't say much about gynandromorphs, but hermaphrodites usually do have breasts.
* But when Tamaki found out she was a girl, her reply was "Biologically, yes." Or is that line only in the anime?

Think about it. They seem to be a good distance up, and while they may be okay swimmers, well... why ''else'' would Eclair let go of Tamaki? Methinks she just thought "May as well let him die with her." That's why the car drives away and such. What we see with Eclair afterwards is in the actual aftermath in the real world. The final waltz is a DyingDream of sorts.
* ...Okay, this ''very firmly'' falls into PoisonOakEpilepticTrees.

[[WMG: Eclair had feelings for Tamaki]]
Just look at [[http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/Hostoflook/Untitled-1.jpg this]] screenshot. You can't deny the puppy dog face. You '''''can't'''''.
* ... that really, really doesn't count as a WMG.

* Castor means "beaver". What's your source on the alternate translation?
** It's nothing to do with Castor. Remember how Kaoru gave up Haruhi? He's a [[IncrediblyLamePun pussy]].

Now, how this works can be chalked up to time-travel(See top of list), one being the other's parent, or Honey and Iori are the same person, just one is the result of gender-flipping.
* [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Darry's]] Usa-chan is a zombie version, it seems.
** Well, you couldn't expect him to live forever, could you? He probably decided to become a zombie so he could continue watching over members of the bloodline even AfterTheEnd.

His grandmother is going to do or say something especially despicable in front of Tamaki in front of everyone, and Tamaki won't do anything about it for the usual reasons. Haruhi, still confused about her feelings towards Tamaki and needing and outlet for her emotions, will punch the grandmother right in the face. It will have repercussions later, but it will be awesome.
* I think Haruhi is more likely to deliver a verbal CurbStomp by saying something so devastingly insightful and far more damaging than any mere punch in the nose. It will still be awesome.
** And the way it will be awesome? These devastatingly insightful words will turn into giant, colorful arrows that will proceed to pierce Tamaki's grandmother from various directions, culminating in a giant lightning bolt falling from the sky and frying the old bag, who will then fall backwards in slow motion (possibly with Beartrap mouth,) much like with Renge and Tamaki himself back in season 1 of the anime.

She's not just the yaoi fangirl with a loose grip on reality that she seems to be; she's actually a parody on the fanbase itself. Her "film project" that rewrites all the characters is an alternate universe fanfic. Every facet of her is seemingly designed to parrot that of the yaoi fangirl base, which is probably why the fangirls seem to lash out at her so much; she is them, and they don't want to admit it.

[[WMG: Taken further, Spirit Albarn (or Death Scythe) is adult Tamaki.]]
Tamaki graduated from school, became successful, married, had Maka, and then divorced. He then went a little bat-shit insane after the break-up, became somewhat of a ladies' man, and changed his hair color. In English, they're both voiced by VicMignogna. ...that wouldn't explain the different last names, though.

* Actually, Haruhi herself points out in the first chapter that gender and appearance aren't really that important, but that it's what's on the inside that truly makes a person. Plus, the very end of the first chapter has Haruhi saying this after Tamaki finds out she's a girl: "And actually, I realized it's not that bad to be popular among the girls. They are cute. I'm probably a little into that..." Whether she seriously meant it is speculation, but she does look contemplative in the panel.
** The intro song on the English dub seems to refer to this, with a line that goes something like "Lady maybe. Or host, I find I really don't mind." Then the next line refers to her finding love in a garden of romance.
** The term for her would thus be pansexual, not bisexual. Pan=not caring about gender, bi=liking both.

* Think about it... every time they've dressed as girls, they've had their hair in pigtails
** And Haruhi wore pigtails on their date.
** And if we're going by the "Haruhi is Kyon" theory, we all know she has a "thing" for pigtails...

* Really, I'm surprised no one else has thought of this.
** On top of that, he's actually Mikami.
** And in the last episode, he stays with Hunny and Mori to fight the police force, even though he (probably) has never had extensive martial arts training like the other two -- then at the end of the fight all the bodies are piled up, so we assume Kyoya helped in SOME way...probably by using his Manga/DeathNote.
* Alternatively, Kyoya is [[MagnificentBastard Light Yagami]], who [[UnexplainedRecovery miraculously survived]] and went into hiding under a false identity, still not smart enough to flee Japan.
** Also, Renge is [[GenkiGirl Misa]]

** Jossed by the fact that Ed canonically lives to be at least 100.
** Exactly (and it's Riza)!
** Notably, Edward is voiced in the English dub by Vic Mignogna, as is Tamaki. Comparatively, Winry is voiced by Caitlin Glass, as is Haruhi.

[[WMG: Haruhi is richer than Tamaki or Kyoya because her father actually loves her.]]
** ''Awwwwww!''

It builds character to not know that your mother was the richest person in Japan until the age of eighteen, and left an enormous fortune apiece to you and your father, possibly in agreement that you should be spared the distress later in life of being spoilt. [[BunnyEarsLawyer Plus]], [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} commoners' coffee is]] ''[[StrangeMindsThinkAlike amazing]]''! [[MundaneMadeAwesome You can pour it right into the hot water]]!

* Everyone in the school sparkles and withstands an incredible amount of slapstick physical punishment. The families are not truly families but vampire covens who have amassed wealth and influence across Japan over the centuries. Everything we hear about Hani's fighting ability is the absolute truth due to his skill combined with enhanced vampire powers. The Occult club is actually made up of vampires who have regressed into older vampire sub-races that are weakened by direct sunlight. The Lobelia Academy is actually a school full of potential slayers who are trying to save Haruhi from the vampires.

* Impossible sadly due to the twins being in a different social class to Haruhi and so probably being in a very posh private school, maybe the elementary school to the middle and high school Ouran.
* I think it's the girl who tried to give Hikaru and Kaoru love letters. I also think she's one of the girls who remarks that she's know the twins since they were really young. Possibly the girl who sits directly behind Haruhi in class, as seen in Episode 21, or (more likely) the girl with the pigtails you can see in the same class shortly after the Twins agree to Renge's suggestion of the Test of Courage Tournament. Both have approximately the same hair and eye colour as the girl in the flashbacks. More likely, however, she's the girl with the purple bows in her hair you see visiting the Twins.

[[WMG: The clipboard Kyouya always writes on is the Manga/DeathNote.]]
* C'mon, you thought it as well.
[[WMG: Ouran is really the clash of two rival breeding programs]]
* Hani is a doomsday weapon and Mori was created to handle him that why we never see Hani without Mori. The twins were created for psychological war fair, send them to your enemies and watch them suffer. Kyouya is for financial take over and logistics. Tamaki was supposed to be a political leader, he has enough charisma but his since his mother was not part of the program, he ended up French. Haruhi was created to uncover this elite breeding program, the commoner created her with their ultimate weapon: common sense. then she was sent to infiltrate

* Aphrodite did something to anger Zeus and got sent to Earth with her powers revoked and memory locked away as punishment. She finds solace in dating sims and managing the Host Club.
* That's also how she can speak fluent Japanese and French both.

* Does that mean that Kyouya and Haruhi...

He really couldn't resist!

At least in the anime. Yoshio is definitely emotionally abusive/neglectful, and sometimes seems to think of his son as nothing more than another tool to make connections. Sure, he implied he was proud of Kyouya like once, but he's never said a thing to Kyouya himself, which has/will lead to Kyouya having some serious issues. He's probably physically abusive as well, because he clearly cares a lot about his public image, and yet had no problem with smacking Kyouya so hard that his glasses flew off of his face. If Yoshio thought he could get away with doing this in public (though he DID apologize for making a scene), just what's going on back at home? And remember that when Kyouya walked away from his friends, he shrugged off their concerns with a statement something like "I expected that to happen anyway," so it's obvious that this is far from the first time Yoshio has hurt him. [[MadeMyselfSad ....I made myself sad.]]
* It's also why Kyouya never allowed himself to make any real friends before Tamaki; he used people as little more than connections not because he wanted to, but because he was too afraid not to do exactly what his father says.

Tamaki is the only person established as being THAT stupid. Every member of the host club figured it out almost immediately. All the female customers are probably just playing along because they like her as a person. I can see Bisco making the reveal the no secret.
* Also, Haruhi is a girl's name. Someone would have mentioned by now that it's an odd name for a boy if they weren't in the know.
** IIRC, Haruhi is a unisex name that just happens to be more common as a girl name (much like "Kelsey" in America,) so it might not seem so odd for a boy to have that name.
** In the manga, all the customers discovered at the end. They didn't know, but the boys thought that they ''did'' know.

It would be after some MAJOR character development on her part, but come on, RuleOfFunny.

* Lelouch is on the AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil (which, ya know, actually does something important), while Tamaki is in charge of the Host Club, which is probably the [[strike:[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4 most useless thing]]]] second most useless thing ever.

** I hate to disagree on WMG but I think most Ouran fans would agree Tamaki's not a loser, and selfish? He's constantly trying to get the Host Club to help other characters, including the Newspaper Club who was out to ruin his name. I mean, have you even seen or read the series? I'd argue that Lelouch is far more selfish because his reasons for his plan are all because of his sister's wish. That's selfless on a small scale, but considering [[spoiler: multiple people die because of his plan and pretty much everyone is affected by his taking over the world]] I think that's more selfish.

[[WMG: The whole of Ouran High School is real, these are just their memoires as written by Renge]]
* Renge, at one point is said to have created a hugely popular doujinshi about the hosts. So that is what we are reading/watching, while the real person on who Renge is based, is now richer then the other kids from it. It would explain the over the top fighting, she wanted to make the real life happenings more interesting for readers.

[[WMG: Kyouya is actually in love with Haruhi.]]

In chapter 64, when Haruhi is kidnapped, Kyouya says, "I also never thought of getting involved with Haruhi. I thought that chasing her would've been dangerous." So... [[DeclarationOfProtection he didn't pursue her because he thought his position made it dangerous for her?]]
* This is only in the scanlation. The official translation reads a bit differently: "Although I'd planned for the eventuality of Haruhi being targeted for associating with us, it's apparent my preparations weren't adequate. It was an oversight on all our parts".

[[WMG: Honey, Mori, and possibly Kyouya are Saiyans]]

Kyouya, however is dificult. He doesn't use his strength often. He DOES however use it in the last episode of the anime. He puts a dent in the hood of the limo. But he only uses a bit of his strength. He actualy hits it with all of the force you would use to slam down a pencil.
Therefore, three of the hosts are saiyans.
* Tamaki is also a Saiyan. He went Super Saiyan in the second Kasanoda episode.

[[WMG: Kyouya is [[Manga/DeathNote Light]]]]

Well, there are already two different theories that either his notebook or clipboard is a Death Note.
* Alternately, he's Mikami and ''[[Creator/MamoruMiyano Tamaki]]'' is Light.

* Hardly a WildMassGuess, or even a guess at all. She says she doesn't put much stock in gender, in a way that makes it seem like she doesn't ''bother'' to identify as anything, since it's not really important. E.G., "genderfluid".

[[WMG: Haruhi is the [[RevolutionaryGirlUtena Rose Bride]] ]]

[[WMG: [[OtomeWaBokuNiKoishiteru Mizuho]] is Haruhi's dad ]]

[[WMG:Tamaki is related to [[OtomeYoukaiZakuro Kei Agemaki]]]]

[[WMG: Haruhi is... [[SuzumiyaHaruhi Kyon]]]]

[[WMG: Haruhi doesn't have [[SuzumiyaHaruhi Haruhi powers]], but Hani does.]]

[[WMG: Haruhi is SuzumiyaHaruhi, who wanted to try being male.]]

Much too small for his age? Check. Strange behaviour? Check. Great intelligence? Check.

[[WMG: Haruhi is richer then Tamaki or Kyoya because her father actually loves her.]]

In the not too distant future Ohtori Academy changed it's name to Ouran. All of the various characters who compete for Haruhi's affections are really trying to gain the "Power to Revolutionize the World". Tamaki wants the power so he can keep the "family" he built within the Host Club together forever. The twins want it so they can create a miracle where someone will finally be able to tell them apart. Honey wants to find "True Strength". Mori wants to help him. The Lobelia girls want to prove their superiority over men. Kasanoda wants control over how the world views him, and Renge wants the world to be perfect and ideal like her Dating Sim games. Kyouya is End of the World.

And that's why Usa-chan blushes, and Yasuchika saw it move on it's own.

I have watched this anime about ten times (five times for each the English and Japanese dubs), and I '''still''' think Benio is really a man. I think Benio's mum got herself artificially inseminated when she decided she wanted a child because the Academy, or at least he Zuka Club of which nearly all of them are members, seems to teach pretty hefty misandry, and was disappointed that her baby was male, and so Benio was RaisedAsTheOppositeGender and always registered as a girl. Benio's voice is pretty husky, even lower than most of the the Host Club (Hikaru, Kaoru, Haruhi, and Honey all have varying degrees of higher voices than she does in the English version), so it's somewhat possible. Benio's also always dressing as a man whenever the chance arises, even though Benio and virtually everyone else at the school are supposed to hate men (which of course begs the question of why male characters are even included in their plays). Even outside the plays, Benio is always portrayed as dressing male (such as when the members of the Academy were introducing themselves and talking about the school; Benio was dressed as a man complete with moustache).

Hikaru means "shining". Kaoru means "sweet smelling". [[GreekMythology Castor]] means "shining". [[GreekMythology Pollux]] means "very sweet". Coincidence? I think not.

* Alternately, he's Mikami and ''[[MamoruMiyano Tamaki]]'' is Light.

* Does that mean one of them's going to die in an explosion?
* This is actually more or less confirmed by Word of God.
** Link, please?

[[WMG: Kyoya's constant laptop use..]]
is him sorting out and arranging [[spoiler: his dad's company, as he would have been able to see its financial collapse at least a year before it happened]], and so whenever we see him typing on his laptop, and rarely if ever working for ths host club he is in fact [[spoiler: arranging loans, sorting out finances and working a way to support the comapny himself and stop it going under]]

And Tamaki is Haruhi. It's a {{Gender Flip}}ped wacky alternate universe, where Suzumiya is a boy and, while not aware of his powers, using them more actively. The other club members are the other factions.

* Kyouya is one hell of a {{Tsundere}}.
** Kaoru in fact specifically calls Kyouya a {{Tsundere}} with regards to Tamaki in volume 11 of the manga.
* In episode 24, when Kyoya is asked why he joined the host club, he looks across to Tamaki, who is bathed in white light, and then smiles to himself before answering.
** There's also episode 3, where Kyoya states that he doesn't think he's "supporting cast, homosexual or otherwise."
*** Basically, Kyoya being in love with Tamaki explains all of the the abnormal behavior around him, as well as how Kyoya is 'only' really close with Tamaki.

** Or he's not and he's just very close with the first friend he ever had and doesn't want to lose him. Until Tamaki, Kyouya didn't have friends, and people like Tamaki are hard to come by.

* I think it's the girl who tried to give Hikaru and Kaoru love letters. I also think she's one of the girls who remarks that she's know the twins since they were really young. Possibly the girl who sits directly behind Haruhi in class, as seen in Episode 21, or (more likely) the girl with the pigtails you can see in the same class shortly after the Twins agree to Renge's suggestion of the Test of Courage Tournament. Both have approximately the same hair and eye colour as the girl in the flashbacks.

* I think it's the girl who tried to give Hikaru and Kaoru love letters. I also think she's one of the girls who remarks that she's know the twins since they were really young. Possibly the girl who sits directly behind Haruhi in class, as seen in Episode 21.

* Impossible sadly due to the twins being in a different social class to Haruhi and so probally being in a very posh private school, maybe the elementary school to the middle and high school Ouran.

** the term for her would thus be pansexual, not bisexual. Pan=not caring about gender, bi=liking both.

** And Haruhi wore pigtails on their date

** Haruhi asks herself when she first hears Tamaki's voice why it is so persuading, wondering 'is it wizardry'? The answer is yes.
* He is adept at scrying. 'Tamaki's mind theatre' is a form of divination.

The ''only'' two major characters in the ''entire'' show who seem to have ever had mothers are Tamaki and Haruhi (the latter of which is not from a wealthy noble family, and the former of which [[spoiler: is illegitimate]]). None of the mothers of any of the other hosts or their associates are ever seen, even in situations where you'd think they'd be around. Quite possibly they just don't exist. Instead, the kids' fathers had their children specially engineered in labs in the style of ''BraveNewWorld'', and any genetic resemblances are the result of their fathers' contributing DNA to the projects.

** Notably, Edward is voiced in the English dub by Vic Mignogna, as is Tamaki. comparatively, Winry is voiced by Caitlin Glass, as is Haruhi.