History WMG / OnePieceOpenThree

*** Well, she is a mermaid. she could probably just swim alongside the boat. Or maybe [[RuleOfCool ride on the back of a seaking]]
[[RuleOfFunny if she got tired.]]

* Sea Kings, like salmon, whales, and many other creatures, have spawning grounds. The East Blue is the primary spawning ground and those that either haven't matured or matured small (poor Lord of the Coast) stay in these waters until they can leave (except for LotC...). Having grown up together or in the same area, these Sea Kings are all part of a RagtagBunchOfMisfits out on a quest of destiny to save the world. Apparently, Sea Kings are either supremely patient, laid back, and/or they must wait for ThePlanetsToAlign since this same group [[spoiler: also witnessed Roger and his crew sailing beneath the waves]].

As I mentioned in the last WMG, Franky met up with Den, Tom's younger brother at Fishman Island, who is also a shipwright. With the timeskip, all of the Strawhats have gained an upgrade and new appearance... except the Sunny (since, as with Merry, it's made clear the ship is considered part of the crew). Even if Shirahoshi doesn't join as discussed above, I find it hard to believe the Sunny is going to leave Fishman Island without a redesign with the skills Franky picked up from Vega's lab, or whatever technology is found at Fishman Island.

* About the ship thing, remember Franky met Tom's relative and discussed shipbuilding with him. Oda had Kuma seperated the Strawhats as an out-of-story excuse to make them stronger over a timeskip; who's to say Shirahoshi joining them won't be his excuse to redesign the Thousand Sunny, making it big enough for her?

* Would this really work though? Considering that Oda bothered to build up Jinbe's relationships with nearly the whole crew, and doesn't really do this for Shirahoshi, shouldn't that be a sign he probably isn't building her up to have a consistent relationship with them? Also, making her not able to be in the boat in the crew, having to sleep outside, would create an unpleasant sense that she's not really part of the group that I doubt a story like OP would want hanging over the characters' heads. The New World is really, really dangerous, and it just seems like a massive common sense failure to think that a small-ish group of pirates have the time and resources to babysit a really, really sheltered and emotionally fragile teenage girl. Also, making Shirahoshi have to be a constant object of protection for the crew, be an ancient weapon, have an innocent and pure personality (which, trust me, you really can't make her grow out of without making her character unrecognizable), have a really, really broken summon that is hard to make work in the context of a rough and tough pirate crew, would turn OP from a fun adventure fantasy to a painful Mary Sue fanfic.

* Would this really work though? Considering that Oda bothered to build up Jinbe's relationships with nearly the whole crew, and doesn't really do this for Shirahoshi, shouldn't that be a sign he probably isn't building her up to have a consistent relationship with them? Also, making her not able to be in the boat in the crew, having the sleep outside, would create an unpleasant sense that she's not really part of the group that I doubt a story like OP would want hanging over the characters' heads. The New World is really, really dangerous, and it just seems like a massive common sense failure to think that a small-ish group of pirates have the time and resources to babysit a really, really sheltered and emotionally fragile teenage girl. Also, making Shirahoshi have to be a constant object of protection for the crew, be an ancient weapon, have an innocent and pure personality (which, trust me, you really can't make her grow out of without making her character unrecognizable), have a really, really broken summon that is hard to make work in the context of a rough and tough pirate crew, would turn OP from a fun adventure fantasy to a painful Mary Sue fanfic.

* Would this really work though? The Strawhats had to do two years of hard level grinding to be suitable to survive in New World. Can they really afford to take someone who not only will attract a lot of attention, but who has few to no survival skills outside of a powerful summon that once again, is pretty broken in the context of a pirate crew? Also, considering that Oda bothered to build up Jinbe's relationships with nearly the whole crew, and doesn't really do this for Shirahoshi, shouldn't that be a sign he probably isn't building her up to have a consistent relationship with them? Also, making her not able to be in the boat in the crew, having the sleep outside, would create an unpleasant sense that she's not really part of the group that I doubt a story like OP would want hanging over the characters' heads. The New World is really, really dangerous, and it just seems like a massive common sense failure to think that a small-ish group of pirates have the time and resources to babysit a really, really sheltered and emotionally fragile teenage girl. Also, making Shirahoshi have to be a constant object of protection for the crew, be an ancient weapon, have an innocent and pure personality, have a really, really broken summon that is hard to make work in the context of a rough and tough pirate crew, would just make her look like a HUGE Purity Sue that would overshadow the other characters. I dunno, this whole theory just sounds like it would be a disaster in terms of story and characterization.

*** Well, she is a mermaid. she could probably just swim alongside the boat. Or maybe [[RuleOfCool ride on the back of a seaking]] [[RuleOfFunny if she got tired.]]

** I was thinking the same thing. This would pretty much be the same way/reason that Franky became part of the crew. The only problem now is how they would fit such a giant mermaid onto a ship that's about the same size she is.

The fact that Shirahoshi [[spoiler:is the Poseidon]] means she's at risk no matter where she is. If the World Government found out, they'd be after her in a heartbeat. And the Fishman Island Royal Army would be no match for Admirals and the Pacifista. Because of this, her father will ask the Straw Hats to take her with them so they can look after her. Also, Shirahoshi ''did'' [[http://i33.mangareader.net/one-piece/613/one-piece-2434433.jpg seem excited about the idea of adventures]] when she first found out Luffy was a pirate.

* While the revelation about Poseidon does put Pluton in a new perspective, this troper would remind the original that Pluton had blueprints and was explicitly said to have been built by Water 7. If we want to look at alternatives to Pluton being a powerful warship (no comment on whether it had a Klabautermann that was more than just a spirit...), why not consider a cyborg? That way, it would both be requiring of blueprints and be [[spoiler:a "living" being]]. So to put that into an easy to digest sound byte, "Third, Pluton was a cyborg a la Franky or the Pacifistas". After all... Franky did have those blueprints on hand for all those years... (which would tie this in nicely with the WMG about him using the blueprints.

* While the revelation about Poseidon does put Pluton in a new perspective, this troper would remind the original that Pluton had blueprints and was explicitly said to have been built by Water 7. If we want to look at alternatives to Pluton being a powerful warship (no comment on whether it had a Klabautermann that was more than just a spirit...), why not consider a cyborg? That way, it would both be requiring of blueprints and be [[spoiler:a "living" being]]. So to put that into an easy to digest sound byte, [=Third, Pluton was a cyborg a la Franky or the Pacifistas=]. After all... Franky did have those blueprints on hand for all those years... (which would tie this in nicely with the WMG about him using the blueprints.

* While the revelation that Poseidon was a living being does put Pluton in a new perspective, this troper would remind the original that Pluton had blueprints and was explicitly said to have been built by Water 7. If we want to look at alternatives to Pluton being a powerful warship (no comment on whether it had a Klabautermann that was more than just a spirit...), why not consider a cyborg? That way, it would both be requiring of blueprints and be a "being". So to put that into an easy to digest sound byte, [=Third, Pluton was a cyborg a la Franky or the Pacifistas=]. After all... Franky did have those blueprints on hand for all those years... (which would tie this in nicely with the WMG about him using the blueprints.

The fact that Shirahoshi [[spoiler:is the Poseidon]] means she's at risk no matter where she is. If the World Government found out, they'd be after her in a heartbeat. And the Fishman Island Royal Army would be no match for Admirals and the Pacifista. Because of this, her father will ask the Straw Hats to take her with them so they can look after her.

The fact that Shirahoshi [[is the Poseidon]] means she's at risk no matter where she is. If the World Government found out, they'd be after her in a heartbeat. And the Fishman Island Royal Army would be no match for Admirals and the Pacifista. Because of this, her father will ask the Straw Hats to take her with them so they can look after her.

* Second is [[spoiler:Brooke. Or perhaps I should say Brooke's Devilfruit. In ancient Greek and Roman mythology, Pluto/Hades was lord of the underworld. But the underworld wasn't a place of brimstone and fire like most modern interpretations of "Hell." Instead it was viewed as a cold, dark, damp place devoid of mirth. And we've recently learned that Brooke's devilfruit lets him channel the "chill of the afterlife" in his attacks. Thus it's possible Brooke became the Pluton when he ate the [=YomiYomi=].]]

* Second is [[spoiler:Brooke. Or perhaps I should say Brooke's Devilfruit. In ancient Greek and Roman mythology, Pluto/Hades was lord of the underworld. But the underworld wasn't a place of brimstone and fire like most modern interpretations of "Hell." Instead it was viewed as a cold, dark, damp place devoid of mirth. And we've recently learned that Brooke's devilfruit lets him channel the "chill of the afterlife" in his attacks. Thus it's possible Brooke became the Pluton when he ate the YomiYomi.]]

* Second is [[Brooke. Or perhaps I should say Brooke's Devilfruit. In ancient Greek and Roman mythology, Pluto/Hades was lord of the underworld. But the underworld wasn't a place of brimstone and fire like most modern interpretations of "Hell." Instead it was viewed as a cold, dark, damp place devoid of mirth. And we've recently learned that Brooke's devilfruit lets him channel the "chill of the afterlife" in his attacks. Thus it's possible Brooke became the Pluton when he ate the YomiYomi.]]

For whatever reason, he suvived the Lord of the Coast and as a mountain bandit, is waiting on the other side of Reverse Mountain to take revenge on Luffy, or something. If this is true, we will have to rename ChekhovsGunman to Higuma the Bear or the like. Approx 26 years between appearances, anyone?

Giving way to a YouKilledMyFather relationship between him and Usopp.

In chapter 648, [[spoiler:one of the seakings]] remarks he's sure Luffy could hear their conversation with Shirahoshi. This is followed by another pointing out that such a thing happened once before, and we get a brief flashback of [[spoiler:Gol D. Roger]] trying to figure out where [[spoiler:the seakings']] voices are coming from in the middle of an open ocean.

In chapter 648, [[spoiler:one of the seakings]] remarks he's sure Luffy could hear their conversation with Shirahoshi. This is followed by another pointing out that such a thing happened once before, and we get a brief flashback of [[spoiler:Gol D. Rodger]] trying to figure out where the [[spoiler:seakings']] voices are coming from in the middle of an open ocean.

Let's consider the factors for this, first of all: He's defeated two Shichibukai (Sir Crocodile and Gecko Moria); stormed Enies Lobby and defeated [=CP9=], the most feared assassin group in the World Government's employ at the time; assaulted a World Noble; stormed Impel Down and Marineford; [[spoiler:made allies out of Whitebeard's crew and ''maybe'' Trafalgar Law post-Marineford]]; he has established connections with notable pirates and other criminal, including Red-Leg Zeff; his [[DisappearedDad father]] is ''the'' most wanted man in the world; he has (unknown to the general populace) support from various quarters, including the royal family of Alabasta and the populace of Water 7, Amazon Lily, and (at the moment) Fishman Island; [[spoiler:he's received training from the former Pirate King's first mate]]; and [[spoiler:assuming Jinbe accepts his invitation, he'll have an ex-Shichibukai on his crew]]. As far as his current crew strength goes, he's got a BloodKnight swordsman who's already infamous in his own right [[spoiler:and who's gotten training from the Shichibukai's resident swordsman]]; his cook has ties to the aforementioned Zeff [[spoiler:and was trained by a member of the Revolutionaries]]; he has a BadassBookworm who's both a global pariah and has the ability to access knowledge that could potentially wreak havoc on the world; his shipwright has close connections to Water 7's residents and mayor; his musician is knowledgeable of Gold Roger's days of piracy and has ties to an as-yet unidentified kingdom; his doctor has ties to the Drum Kingdom; and his navigator and sniper have skills that are touted as nigh-unearthly. On top of that, Luffy has a known BerserkButton where you should not harm anyone he considers his friend; if any place where he's made close ties should be assaulted by anyone, there will potentially be hell to pay.

Plenty of people speculate that Luffy will go out young in a blaze of glory, but Brook has the UnfinishedBusiness trope already in effect. During his introduction in Thriller Bark he referred to his "second life" essentially being on a timer that will run out, but really it will last until he's at peace and can rest. (Oda does love to torture his characters, but making the loneliest character outlive all his loved ones again would surely be too cruel! So surely he's not immortal. Surely.)

* Joy Boy was (is?!) a D.

Lola herself says that she was born in the New World which is where Big Mom is at. Lola's crew also points out that Lola's mom is an extremely powerful pirate.

The All Blue is a legendary sea where all the main seas converge and sea life from all of them exist. Now think about this: if you look at a map of Reverse Mountain, there is an outlet to the Grand line from ''all four main seas''. If ships can go through Reverse Mountain, so can sea life. We already know Laboon did. Wouldn't that mean that the first half of the Grand Line, particularly around Reverse Mountain, would actually be the All Blue?