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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit]], but he has [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy rebounded magnificently]], scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit]], but he has [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2014 rebounded magnificently]], scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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[[WMG: The "Dark Supergirl" personality has been in control of Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} ever since Flashpoint]]
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[[WMG: The "Dark Supergirl" personality has been in control of Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} ever since Flashpoint]]
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** And ''[[Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton getting a Red Ring]]'' burned that personality away, then?
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** And ''[[Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton ''[[ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton getting a Red Ring]]'' burned that personality away, then?
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In ''Sandman Midnight Theater'', Wesley Dodds encountered [[Comicbook/TheSandman Morpheus the Dream King]] in his glass prison. He's still standing there, having an extended vision.
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In ''Sandman Midnight Theater'', Wesley Dodds encountered [[Comicbook/TheSandman [[ComicBook/TheSandman Morpheus the Dream King]] in his glass prison. He's still standing there, having an extended vision.
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** Superman also had a dream of a life that strongly resembled his Post-Crisis years, complete with his step-parents alive and Lois as his wife.
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** Superman also had a dream of a life that strongly resembled his Post-Crisis years, complete with his step-parents alive and Lois as his wife.wifely
*** Unfortunately by Convergence and Rebirth, which have introduced and have the Post-Crisis Superman the spotlight back. while New 52 Superman has been sadly pushed aside as a mere imposter.
*** Unfortunately by Convergence and Rebirth, which have introduced and have the Post-Crisis Superman the spotlight back. while New 52 Superman has been sadly pushed aside as a mere imposter.
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[[WMG: The "Dark Supergirl" personality has been in control of {{Supergirl}} ever since Flashpoint]]
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[[WMG: The "Dark Supergirl" personality has been in control of {{Supergirl}} Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} ever since Flashpoint]]
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** And ''[[Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton getting a Red Ring]]'' burned that personality away, then?
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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. [[Film/TheAvengers Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit]], but he has [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy rebounded magnificently]], scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. [[Film/TheAvengers [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit]], but he has [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy rebounded magnificently]], scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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If Superboy-Prime survived Flashpoint, he would be shaken, buffetted, but still dangerous. By trapping him in a closed chronal loop (his two appearances apparently feeding into one another ''ad infinitum''), the universe has saved itself.
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If Superboy-Prime survived Flashpoint, he would be shaken, buffetted, but still dangerous. By trapping him in a closed chronal loop (his two appearances apparently feeding into one another ''ad infinitum''), the universe has saved itself.itself.
[[WMG:The entire New 52 was orchestrated by [[ComicBook/TheFlash both Zooms]]]]
The last time he was seen, Hunter Zolomon (the second Zoom) approached Eobard Thawne and said they could make each other "better." Now, his whole shtick is about making "better heroes" by making them experience tragedy; so he and Thawne somehow manipulated the timeline a la ''Flashpoint'' to make the new timeline work their way. Plus, we haven't heard anything of Zolomon since that last appearance of his, so...
[[WMG:The entire New 52 was orchestrated by [[ComicBook/TheFlash both Zooms]]]]
The last time he was seen, Hunter Zolomon (the second Zoom) approached Eobard Thawne and said they could make each other "better." Now, his whole shtick is about making "better heroes" by making them experience tragedy; so he and Thawne somehow manipulated the timeline a la ''Flashpoint'' to make the new timeline work their way. Plus, we haven't heard anything of Zolomon since that last appearance of his, so...
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** We know from the old 2000's ''ComicBook/{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''[[PreCrisis Earth One]]'' still exists.
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** We know from the old 2000's ''ComicBook/{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''[[PreCrisis ''[[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Earth One]]'' still exists.
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* Confirmed [[spoiler: in a sense. Pre-''Flashpoint'' Gotham City exists in Vanishing Point, along with cities from pre-''Zero Hour'' and pre-''Infinite Crisis'']]
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** Jossed [[spoiler: The ''Flashpoint'' version of Gotham City has been captured by Brainiac and preserved in Vanishing point.]]
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In ''Sandman Midnight Theater'', Wesley Dodds encountered [[Comicbook/TheSandman Morpheus the Dream King]] in his glass prison. He's still standing there, having an extended vision.
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In ''Sandman Midnight Theater'', Wesley Dodds encountered [[Comicbook/TheSandman Morpheus the Dream King]] in his glass prison. He's still standing there, having an extended vision.vision.
[[WMG:H'El is actually Superboy-Prime]]
My train of justification: Superboy-Prime was a Kryptonian from a destroyed iteration of the multiverse. He survived which his ludicrous powers intact, to continue on in a world that he had no place in. He carved the shield of the House of El into his chest. Theoretically, he could survive the destruction of that universe, because it was never his.
H'El, meanwhile, is a Kryptonian with no apparent origin, trapped in a closed chronal loop, which ridiculous powers and a (reversed) El-Shield carved into the skin of his chest.
If Superboy-Prime survived Flashpoint, he would be shaken, buffetted, but still dangerous. By trapping him in a closed chronal loop (his two appearances apparently feeding into one another ''ad infinitum''), the universe has saved itself.
[[WMG:H'El is actually Superboy-Prime]]
My train of justification: Superboy-Prime was a Kryptonian from a destroyed iteration of the multiverse. He survived which his ludicrous powers intact, to continue on in a world that he had no place in. He carved the shield of the House of El into his chest. Theoretically, he could survive the destruction of that universe, because it was never his.
H'El, meanwhile, is a Kryptonian with no apparent origin, trapped in a closed chronal loop, which ridiculous powers and a (reversed) El-Shield carved into the skin of his chest.
If Superboy-Prime survived Flashpoint, he would be shaken, buffetted, but still dangerous. By trapping him in a closed chronal loop (his two appearances apparently feeding into one another ''ad infinitum''), the universe has saved itself.
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** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''[[PreCrisis Earth One]]'' still exists.
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** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''[[PreCrisis Earth One]]'' still exists.
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* Now The Flash has to contend with a future version of himself. How well could he have fixed the universe if he has to kick his own arse?
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* Now The Flash has to contend with a future version of himself. How well could he have fixed the universe if he has to kick his own arse?arse?
[[WMG: Wesley Dodds [[AllJustADream is having a dream]]]]
In ''Sandman Midnight Theater'', Wesley Dodds encountered [[Comicbook/TheSandman Morpheus the Dream King]] in his glass prison. He's still standing there, having an extended vision.
[[WMG: Wesley Dodds [[AllJustADream is having a dream]]]]
In ''Sandman Midnight Theater'', Wesley Dodds encountered [[Comicbook/TheSandman Morpheus the Dream King]] in his glass prison. He's still standing there, having an extended vision.
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Admit it, [[ThisExplainsSoMuch it would explain a lot]].
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Admit it, [[ThisExplainsSoMuch it would explain a lot]].lot]].
[[WMG: Flashpoint Never Ended]]
* In ''Flashpoint'', Barry Allen's memories began to change the longer he stayed in the Flashpoint universe. Now count how many times a single character's origins have been rewritten since the New 52 began. It seems likely that history is constantly rewriting itself so that it can accommodate an increasingly chaotic present.
** Superman also had a dream of a life that strongly resembled his Post-Crisis years, complete with his step-parents alive and Lois as his wife.
* Also, take into account that Batman has only been active for about 7 years when his 10-year-old son dies. This could be the universe ironing out one glaring inconsistency.
* Now The Flash has to contend with a future version of himself. How well could he have fixed the universe if he has to kick his own arse?
[[WMG: Flashpoint Never Ended]]
* In ''Flashpoint'', Barry Allen's memories began to change the longer he stayed in the Flashpoint universe. Now count how many times a single character's origins have been rewritten since the New 52 began. It seems likely that history is constantly rewriting itself so that it can accommodate an increasingly chaotic present.
** Superman also had a dream of a life that strongly resembled his Post-Crisis years, complete with his step-parents alive and Lois as his wife.
* Also, take into account that Batman has only been active for about 7 years when his 10-year-old son dies. This could be the universe ironing out one glaring inconsistency.
* Now The Flash has to contend with a future version of himself. How well could he have fixed the universe if he has to kick his own arse?
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** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''[[PreCrisis Earth One]]'' still exists.
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** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''[[PreCrisis Earth One]]'' still exists.exists.
[[WMG: The "Dark Supergirl" personality has been in control of {{Supergirl}} ever since Flashpoint]]
Admit it, [[ThisExplainsSoMuch it would explain a lot]].
[[WMG: The "Dark Supergirl" personality has been in control of {{Supergirl}} ever since Flashpoint]]
Admit it, [[ThisExplainsSoMuch it would explain a lot]].
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** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''Earth One'' still exists.
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** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''Earth One'' ''[[PreCrisis Earth One]]'' still exists.
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We already know there are at least three universes. The old one has to be out there somewhere, right?
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We already know there are at least three universes. The old one has to be out there somewhere, right?right?
** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''Earth One'' still exists.
** We know from the old 2000's ''{{Superboy}}'' series that, somewhere out there in Hypertime, ''Earth One'' still exists.
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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit, but he has rebounded magnificently, scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. [[Film/TheAvengers Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit, spirit]], but he has [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy rebounded magnificently, magnificently]], scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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* As a result, each Earth has one of the New Gods of Apokolips stuck on it: DeSaad on Prime Earth, Steppenwolf on Earth 2. At some point Darkseid will reassemble his forces to attack the worlds again, and the heroes will unite across universes to fight them.
* Earth-23's Apokoliptian refugee was Glorious Godfrey, After the invasion, he ran for US president against [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kalel_(Earth-23) Calvin Ellis], under the name [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney G. Willard Godfrey]. (Because if your hero is Super-Obama, your villain is Super-Romney, right?)
* Earth-23's Apokoliptian refugee was Glorious Godfrey, After the invasion, he ran for US president against [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kalel_(Earth-23) Calvin Ellis], under the name [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney G. Willard Godfrey]. (Because if your hero is Super-Obama, your villain is Super-Romney, right?)
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* As a result, each Earth has one of the New Gods of Apokolips stuck on it: DeSaad [=DeSaad=] on Prime Earth, Steppenwolf on Earth 2. At some point Darkseid will reassemble his forces to attack the worlds again, and the heroes will unite across universes to fight them.
* Earth-23's Apokoliptian refugee was Glorious Godfrey, After the invasion, he ran for US president against[http://dc.[[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kalel_(Earth-23) Calvin Ellis], Ellis]], under the name [http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney G. Willard Godfrey].Godfrey]]. (Because if your hero is Super-Obama, your villain is Super-Romney, right?)
* Earth-23's Apokoliptian refugee was Glorious Godfrey, After the invasion, he ran for US president against
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* Earth-8's refugee was Grayven. Control of his army was usurped from him by a trickster spirit, but he has rebounded magnificently, scouring that universe for cosmic weaponry while he searches for ways to stalk Death of the Endless.
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* As a result, each Earth has one of the New Gods of Apokolips stuck on it: DeSaad on Prime Earth, Steppenwolf on Earth 2. At some point Darkseid will reassemble his forces to attack the worlds again, and the heroes will unite across universes to fight them.
* Earth-23's Apokoliptian refugee was Glorious Godfrey, After the invasion, he ran for US president against [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kalel_(Earth-23) Calvin Ellis], under the name [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney G. Willard Godfrey]. (Because if your hero is Super-Obama, your villain is Super-Romney, right?)
* Earth-23's Apokoliptian refugee was Glorious Godfrey, After the invasion, he ran for US president against [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kalel_(Earth-23) Calvin Ellis], under the name [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney G. Willard Godfrey]. (Because if your hero is Super-Obama, your villain is Super-Romney, right?)
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The 52 remaining earths are the only ones that were able to repel Darkseid's forces. This will come up again in another arc (because, of course, you can't keep Darkseid down for long).
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The 52 remaining earths are the only ones that were able to repel Darkseid's forces. This will come up again in another arc (because, of course, you can't keep Darkseid down for long).long).
[[WMG: The original universe still exists.]]
We already know there are at least three universes. The old one has to be out there somewhere, right?
[[WMG: The original universe still exists.]]
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[[WMG:The Apokalips invasion was an incursion into every universe at once]]
The 52 remaining earths are the only ones that were able to repel Darkseid's forces. This will come up again in another arc (because, of course, you can't keep Darkseid down for long).
The 52 remaining earths are the only ones that were able to repel Darkseid's forces. This will come up again in another arc (because, of course, you can't keep Darkseid down for long).
