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[[WMG: The villain will be Mahuika]]
In the original legends, Mahuika is the fire deity from whom Maui stole the secret of fire. Either this movie will be an adaptation of that legend, or Mahuika will be trying to get revenge on Maui. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg With Moana]] [[InnocentBystander and her tribe]] caught in the middle.
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* I hope not. Disney already did a "White people are evil" theme in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', and [[{{Anvilicious}} we saw how that went]].




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** So, like [[Disney/TreasurePlanet John Silver]]?
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** What will most likely happen, at least in my opinion, is that the BigBad ends up [[AppeaseTheVolcanoGodfalling in a volcano as comeuppance for his/her misdeeds]].

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** What will most likely happen, at least in my opinion, is that the BigBad ends up [[AppeaseTheVolcanoGodfalling falling in a volcano as comeuppance for his/her misdeeds]].
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* Are you saying that Moana's people are uncivilised?

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* Are you saying that Moana's people are uncivilised?
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** What will most likely happen, at least in my opinion, is that the BigBad ends up [[AppeaseTheVolcanoGodfalling in a volcano as comeuppance for his/her misdeeds]].



The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part. This is added to in that the synopsis so far does not describe romance, and Maui is voiced by an older man.

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The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, interests, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part. This is added to in that the synopsis so far does not describe romance, and Maui is voiced by an older man.



[[WMG: The volcano from Lava will be involved somehow.]]

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[[WMG: The volcano from Lava the Pixar short ''Lava'' will be involved somehow.]]
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*And this will occur gradually, rather than through a traditional [[MyLittlePonyFriendShipIsMagic ''My Little Pony''-esque]] redemption that follows the villain's defeat.
[[WMG: The volcano from Lava will be involved somehow.]]
Well, Pixar and Disney are now merged...
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[[WMG: The BigBad will make a HeelFaceTurn]]
We don't see a lot of main villains in Disney learning the error of their ways, so this would be fairly original.
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* Well, this theory has one very big piece of supporting evidence: [[Theater/{{Hamilton}} Lin]][[AwesomeMusic -]] [[InTheHeights Manuel]] [[Creator/LinManuelMiranda Miranda.]]

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* Well, this theory has one very big piece of supporting evidence: [[Theater/{{Hamilton}} Lin]][[AwesomeMusic -]] [[InTheHeights -]][[InTheHeights Manuel]] [[Creator/LinManuelMiranda Miranda.]]
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* Well, this theory has one very big piece of supporting evidence: [[Theater/{{Hamilton}} Lin]] [[InTheHeights Manuel]] [[Creator/LinManuelMiranda Miranda.]]

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* Well, this theory has one very big piece of supporting evidence: [[Theater/{{Hamilton}} Lin]] Lin]][[AwesomeMusic -]] [[InTheHeights Manuel]] [[Creator/LinManuelMiranda Miranda.]]
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* Well, this theory has one very big piece of supporting evidence: [[Theater/{{Hamilton}} Lin]] [[InTheHeights Manuel]] [[Creator/LinManuelMiranda Miranda.]]
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[[WMG: Moana's people will migrate to Australia or New Zealand by the end of the movie]]

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[[WMG: Moana's people will migrate to Australia or New Zealand by the end of the movie]]movie]]
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* Are you saying that Moana's people are uncivilised?
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[[WMG: The villain will be comedic, snarky, and on par with [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]] or [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Yzma]].]]

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[[WMG: The villain will be comedic, snarky, and on par with [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]] or [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Yzma]].]]]]

[[WMG: Moana's people will migrate to Australia or New Zealand by the end of the movie]]
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If so, this guy would have made a pact with the lava creatures to make Moana's Pop get lost at sea.

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If so, this guy would have made a pact with the lava creatures to make Moana's Pop get lost at sea.sea.

[[WMG: The villain will be comedic, snarky, and on par with [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]] or [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Yzma]].]]

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*Plus, Moana takes place in the very distant past, so Frozen would not have been around yet at that time.



The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part.

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The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part.
part. This is added to in that the synopsis so far does not describe romance, and Maui is voiced by an older man.
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Since both Disney movies take place in a South Pacific setting.

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Since both Disney movies take place in a South Pacific setting.setting.

[[WMG: The BigBad will be a member of Moana's society who wants to take over.]]
If so, this guy would have made a pact with the lava creatures to make Moana's Pop get lost at sea.
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It's about time he had a good guy role. Bonus points if it's a HeroWithBadPublicity.

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It's about time he had a good guy role. Bonus points if it's a HeroWithBadPublicity.HeroWithBadPublicity.

[[WMG: There will be a Disney/LiloAndStitch reference]]
Since both Disney movies take place in a South Pacific setting.
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Assuming I got my time period right.

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Assuming I got my the time period of this film right.



[[WMG: Creator.AlanTudyk will play a minor supporting character.]]

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[[WMG: Creator.AlanTudyk Creator/AlanTudyk will play a minor supporting character.]]
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[[WMG: Creator.AlanTudyk will play a minor SupportingCharacter.]]

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[[WMG: Creator.AlanTudyk will play a minor SupportingCharacter.supporting character.]]

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Assuming I got my time period right.



The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part.

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The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part.part.

[[WMG: Creator.AlanTudyk will play a minor SupportingCharacter.]]

It's about time he had a good guy role. Bonus points if it's a HeroWithBadPublicity.

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* Wouldn't count on it since [[Disney.{{Tangled}} I See The Light]] didn't garnish that much attention (relative to Frozen, adjusted for age).


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[[WMG: Alternatively, there would be a BiggerBad, and it would be the threat of imperialism.]]
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* Maybe Moana and Maui will hear rumors about the BigBad before they encounter them for real. Some kind of malicious spirit or SuperPersistentPredator could fit in well with that kind of build-up.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, the villain won't be present for much of the movie, but they'll be very obvious when they finally show up.]]
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If anything because the red-herring/plot twist villain cliche is already getting old with Disney using it consecutively and without stop in the last years since Wreck It Ralph (every movie after it has this cliche). It would be a breath of fresh air to return to the classics, or maybe even try something different (maybe have a character who has a "nice" design but we know they're evil from the start, but out heroes don't).

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If anything because the red-herring/plot twist villain cliche is already getting old with Disney using it consecutively and without stop in the last years since Wreck It Ralph (every movie after it has this cliche). It would be a breath of fresh air to return to the classics, or maybe even try something different (maybe have a character who has a "nice" design but we know they're evil from the start, but out heroes don't).don't).

[[WMG: There will NOT be a love interest for Moana]]

The more recent Disney films have averted or downplayed romance, defying a common scenario in animated films. Zootopia, Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It-Ralph have avoided giving their protagonists love interestes, and Frozen sort of defied the concept even though there's the kiss at the end. Moana will be the first Disney Princess movie where romance doesn't play a part.
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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and, judging by early leaks of ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}, [[spoiler: the new spoiler villain is also simply detained and incarcerated, this time without even a fight.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.

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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and, judging by early leaks of ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}, and in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler: the new spoiler villain is Bellwether also happens to be simply detained subdued and incarcerated, this time without even a fight.arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.
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* Frozen's been referenced to death in all later films that have appeared. Hans appeared as a cameo in BH6 and in Zootopia there's a character named "Duke Weaselton". I think the Frozen references should stop for now.
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The release date for the film is almost exactly 3 years after Frozen was released, which itself was released almost exactly 3 years after Tangled. If you'll recall, Rapunzel and Flynn made cameos in Frozen. So, my theory is that Anna and Elsa (and or Kristoff, but given Elsa's popularity, its most likely going to be her) will make some sort of appearance.

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The release date for the film is almost exactly 3 years after Frozen was released, which itself was released almost exactly 3 years after Tangled. If you'll recall, Rapunzel and Flynn made cameos in Frozen. So, my theory is that Anna and Elsa (and or Kristoff, but given Elsa's popularity, its most likely going to be her) will make some sort of appearance.appearance.

[[WMG: The villain will be somebody we'll know from the start.]]
If anything because the red-herring/plot twist villain cliche is already getting old with Disney using it consecutively and without stop in the last years since Wreck It Ralph (every movie after it has this cliche). It would be a breath of fresh air to return to the classics, or maybe even try something different (maybe have a character who has a "nice" design but we know they're evil from the start, but out heroes don't).
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It's time for a new song to be sung by little kids everywhere.

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It's time for a new song to be sung by little kids everywhere.everywhere.

[[WMG: Frozen will be referenced.]]
The release date for the film is almost exactly 3 years after Frozen was released, which itself was released almost exactly 3 years after Tangled. If you'll recall, Rapunzel and Flynn made cameos in Frozen. So, my theory is that Anna and Elsa (and or Kristoff, but given Elsa's popularity, its most likely going to be her) will make some sort of appearance.
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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and, judging by early leaks of ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}, [[spoiler: the new spoiler villain is also simply detained and incarcerated, this time without even a fight.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.

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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and, judging by early leaks of ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}, [[spoiler: the new spoiler villain is also simply detained and incarcerated, this time without even a fight.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.society.

[[WMG: Moana's big song will become super popular and become the new Let It Go.]]
It's time for a new song to be sung by little kids everywhere.

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Nothing here yet.[[WMG: The villain will die this time around.]]
It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and, judging by early leaks of ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}, [[spoiler: the new spoiler villain is also simply detained and incarcerated, this time without even a fight.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.
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