History WMG / Moana

* The fact that it's all part of the Disney Universe actually makes this plausable. And it doesn't matter if the timeline in Moana is 3,000 years before the timeline of Phineas and Ferb, because OWCA has existed since the stone age, back when the first platypus crawled out of the ocean... (as revealed in the P&F episode, "Tri-Stone Area.")

[[WMG: Tamatoa is [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants Mr. Krabs]]]].
* Crazy mass guessing, just because. Mr. Krabs is basically a demi-god in Spongebob...who's to say he didn't take his money obsession WAY too far before discovering Krabby Patties? Tamatoa is obsessed with 'shiny' things...Krabs is obsessed with money. Both are (more or less) willing to kill for what's basically gold. Both are REALLY old. Both have long-term rivalries with another....Tamatoa found a better way to get shiny things. Being a businessman and selling cheap food. Tamatoa even says: "I just love free food"...which is VERY close to what Mr. Krabs says in Band Geeks "When do we get the free food?". No, it doesn't make sense, but this is what WMG is about.

[[WMG: The Kakamora are meant to be evil versions of the [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe Minions]].]]

* Jossed. Interviews confirm that they were inspired by Film/MadMaxFuryRoad. Minions were never mentioned.

[[WMG: The baby Sea Turtle Moana helped reach the ocean was [[WesternAnimation/FindingNemo Crush]]]]

[[WMG: This film takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}''.]]

* And this will occur gradually, rather than through a traditional [[MyLittlePonyFriendShipIsMagic ''My Little Pony''-esque]] redemption that follows the villain's defeat.

* There will eventually be a {{Crisis Crossover}} movie featuring characters from every movie in this {{Shared Universe}} up to that point. This will include both Moana and Maui, filling the water and wind slots of the elemental team.

He might appear to be just a goofy-looking rooster, but either he'll save the day in the end, will be revealed to be an animal MacGuffin, or will [[TheDogWasTheMastermind secretly be a villain]] (considering that his voice actor, Creator/AlanTudyk, has voiced comedic antagonists in [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph no]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} less]] [[WesternAnimation/BigHero6 than]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} four]] Disney movies, the latter would also be an ActorAllusion).

It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and in ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler:Bellwether also happens to be simply subdued and arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.

* Wouldn't count on it since [[Disney.{{Tangled}} I See The Light]] didn't garnish that much attention (relative to Frozen, adjusted for age).

* Jossed. While the soundtrack in general has been praised, there's not a single song that stands out in popularity like ''Let It Go'' did for Disney/{{Frozen}}.

* I hope not. Disney already did a "White people are evil" theme in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', and [[{{Anvilicious}} we saw how that went]].

[[WMG: There will be a ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' reference]]

[[WMG: The villain will be comedic, snarky, and on par with [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]] or [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Yzma]].]]

** So, like [[Disney/TreasurePlanet John Silver]]?

She will have a HairTriggerTemper and will be prone to "flaring up" when angry (just think of [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]]). She won't be evil, though. She'll either be in possession of some MacGuffin or of information crucial to Moana's quest.

[[WMG:Tamatoa will take a lot of cues from [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ursula]].]]

--> '''Tamatoa:''' [[spoiler:''[Helplessly lying on his back unable to get up, and [[BreakingTheFourthWall directly adressing the audience]]]'' If my name was [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Sebastian]] and I had a cool Jamaican accent, you'd ''totally'' help me...]]

In a movie based on Polynesian mythology, which is home to plenty of gods and monsters, I find it hard to believe that the ''main antagonist'' would just be a GiantEnemyCrab. Especially with that [[http://www.thefandom.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_5297-1024x576.png fire goddess]] around. Plus, something about his design just doesn't seem especially villain-y. Perhaps he'll be more like [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Maximus]] or [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Jumba]], in that he'll start out with an antagonistic role only to have a change of heart partway through.

[[WMG: Moana is [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Lilo and Nani's ancestor.]]]]

[[WMG: ''Moana'' is a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}''.]]

[[WMG: Maui as well will be [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Lilo and Nani's ancestor.]]]]

[[WMG: This film takes place in the same universe as ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' and ''Disney/{{Frozen}}''.]]

[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Sebastian]] will have cameos. And did Tamatoa really eat his grandma?

It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler: Bellwether also happens to be simply subdued and arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.

He might appear to be just a goofy-looking rooster, but either he'll save the day in the end, will be revealed to be an animal MacGuffin, or will [[TheDogWasTheMastermind secretly be a villain]] (considering that his voice actor, Creator/AlanTudyk, has voiced comedic antagonists in [[Disney/WreckItRalph no]] [[Disney/{{Frozen}} less]] [[Disney/BigHero6 than]] [[Disney/{{Zootopia}} four]] Disney movies, the latter would also be an ActorAllusion).

* Crazy mass guessing, just because. Mr. Krabs is basically a demi-god in SpongeBob...who's to say he didn't take his money obsession WAY too far before discovering Krabby Patties? Tamatoa is obsessed with 'shiny' things...Krabs is obsessed with money. Both are (more or less) willing to kill for what's basically gold. Both are REALLY old. Both have long-term rivalries with another....Tamatoa found a better way to get shiny things. Being a businessman and selling cheap food. No, it doesn't make sense, but this is what WMG is about.

*** Sea-turtle lifespans/generations are nowhere NEAR connected to "how modern is this society." [[CaptainObvious You can use an iPhone and still be strongly connected to your culture.]]

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