History WMG / MiraculousLadybug

** While a Feligami break up in the future could be possible, Felix becoming a full blown villain probably isn't feasible anymore considering that he now not only knows Ladybug's identity, but also has the Miraculous with which he could kill Adrien with a snap of his fingers, which would realistically leave the main heroes helpless against him.

[[WMG: Luka's akuma will go into his earrings.]]

[[WMG:Kagami will end up with Félix]]

[[folder: Chloe Bourgeois]]

* If Chloe is as angry and bitter as ever, if not more than before: her return to Paris might have her keep a a low profile while plotting her revenge on her enemies, sort of like Lila/Cerise/Iris; her old ally might even recruit her again in her quest for revenge. If she's still in her new life, she'll remain isolated, powerless and embittered. She might even grow to hate all superheroes and villains, as they'll be a constant reminder of what she lost, possibly even to the point of creating and leading an anti-super movement.

Against all odds, Adrien manages to discover that his father was Monarch as early as the middle of the season. He then confronts Ladybug as Cat Noir, fully expecting her to be angry with him for "sticking his nose where it didn't belong". To his shock and surprise however, she instead [[AintTooProudtoBeg begs]] him not to tell anyone, especially "Adrien". When Cat insists that the people of Paris deserve to know the truth, angrily pointing out that she has effectively convinced everyone to honor a '''''terrorist''''', Ladybug actually breaks down in tears and admits that she ''knows'' it isn't right or fair, but she wanted to give Adrien at least ''some'' positive memories of his father and spare him from potentially suffering a SinsOfOurFathers scenario. Realizing that Ladybug is carrying this burden for his sake, Cat calms down and assures her that it will remain a secret between the two of them. Unfortunately, this means that now he has to pretend that he still idolizes his father despite [[BrokenPedestal knowning him to be the monster he truly was.]]

Now that the other heroes have their Miraculouses permanently, there might be some focus put on them and their relationships with their Kwamis; the audience will get to see how the holders and Kwamis affect each other. There might even be some instances where multiple holders and Kwamis will be focused on and some heroes might even learn each others identities if they haven't already; these include Alya & Nino, Luka & Juleka, Juleka & Rose, Felix & Kagami, and Nathaniel & Marc.

* If Chloé is in her BrokenBird phase: her return to Paris might have something to do with her mother coming back for either business or trying to repair the family name. Chloé might be forced to tag along, possibly as her mother's "Sabrina", as part of her mother controlling her life again. She'll feel depressed and ashamed, so much so that she'll be reluctant to show her face to the public and her former classmates. And if and when she does, and they see just how far she's fallen since her exile, some will feel sorry for her, while others will feel that she has gotten exactly what she deserves. It might take some caring from Ladybug and Cat Noir, and maybe Zoe and Andre too to snap out of it. If she's still in her new life, it will show her being controlled by her mother as her "Sabrina" and being forced to cater to her every whim, her mother putting intense pressure on her, demanding absolute perfection in grades, in social life and everything else. She'll probably end up being at the bottom of the social totem at school; her mother will deny her access to any of her money or privileges due to her being a "loser" who doesn't deserve it, which will cause the popular crowd to shun her, and the regular students will probably learn of her previous deeds in Paris, so they'll want nothing to do with her either. She might even get bullied from all sides too. It would probably take something big and life-changing for her to regain her confidence.

[[WMG: Adrien will get sick of being LockedOutOfTheLoop]]
Most likely feeling pushed aside as Ladybug's partner in favour of Rena Rouge, if he ever finds out that Rena Rouge [[spoiler: knows Ladybug's identity along with being next in line as Guardian]], he's going to want answers from ladybug about why he wasn't trusted with knowing anything about her.
* Didn't this happen before, in season 2, the episode where Paris was flooded,though he confronted Plagg, not Marinette. Though if, as speculated above, Consequences is the running theme, the possibility that Adrien feeling like he isn't trusted could be an interesting take on that.
* Keeping Adrien LockedOutOfTheLoop is eventually going to blow up in Marinette’s face. Most likely in the season finale.
* Both of the most recent episodes (Sentibubbler and Rocketear) have featured this, it looks increasingly like they are heading to a blow up over all this.

[[WMG: Adrien being LockedOutOfTheLoop won't push him over the RageBreakingPoint it'll push him over the DespairEventHorizon.]]
In "Wishmaker" we hear Adrien comment that he believes, with Ladybug increasingly relying on the newer Heroes, eventually she'll retire Cat Noir. However he doesn't say it in an angry tone, he's just resigned. Perhaps instead of an argument or Cat being akumatized again, he'll lapse into a depression, giving up on Cat Noir, possibly when he's needed most, forcing the other heroes to explore Cat's emotional state, particularly if it leads to a reveal.
* [[spoiler:In "Kuro Neko", Adrien does indeed give up being Cat Noir, though thanks to Plagg it doesn't stick.]]

[[WMG: Alya will remain Marinette's backup Ladybug into the future.]]
She's already obviously the new hero Marinette trusts most, and giving it to Cat Noir might turn out badly for multiple reasons (not to mention her fear of a Cat Blanc incident messing with her trust in him). Furthermore, why would the show do something as huge as having Marinette temporarily give her Miraculous to somebody else if they intended to leave it as a single-episode thing? Additionally, it might explain Bunnyx's reply to Cat's question about his future self's relationship with Future Ladybug. The two getting together eventually seems to be one of the show's endgames. If Alya is occasionally Ladybug even in the future, Bunnyx could truthfully say that his relationship with Ladybug is "complicated"...because she's not always the same person.

[[WMG: Jagged Stone only found out Luka and Juleka were his kids after the events of "Desperada"]]
Going by "Crocoduel" Jagged and Anarka broke up on pretty bad terms. They're both dramatic and a bit immature. So if Anarka only found out she was pregnant after Jagged left, she may have decided ''herself'' that Jagged would be a lousy father and, with her personal fixation on liberty, decided to raise her kids on her own terms alone. However, when Jagged comes to ask for her to return in Desperada, he sees Luka, learns he's Anarka's kid, and - does some math. Since he and Anarka make peace of sorts at the end of the episode, he was able to question her in private and learn the truth. Then, since he had to leave on tour soon, he decided to put off telling them at the moment until he could spend more time with them - maybe on their birthday. But the events of "Truth" brought the truth out ahead of schedule, and he decided not to cause any more drama that might make Anarka's kids angry at ''her'' by taking all the blame on himself. Jagged is only too eager to spend time with and reconnect with his kids in "Crocoduel" and to a lesser extent "Wishmaker" and the end of "Truth" - it just seems like he's happy to be a father, and the never-resolved argument of whose fault the breakdown of the family was in "Crocoduel" does raise some questions.

[[WMG:Gorilla is a former member of the French Foreign Legion]] Big intimidating guy? Possible military background. Never speaks? Probably does not speak French very well; they teach you in the Legion but not for conversing. Retired Legionaires often find the French they were taught is very different from everyday French. He also used to work for Colt Fathom, possibly promised a job after getting out of the Legion. Most legion recruits are from crappy countries like Romania or Brazil; any job probably looked better to Gorilla then going home.
* Representation implies he was one of Colt's "knights".

[[WMG:If the woman at the end of "Re-creation" is actually Amelie and not Emilie, then Emilie can still be communicated with if Duusu coughs up a Kwatagama.]]
It might be an Emilie who barely knows Adrien (if she never used the Peacock Miraculous after creating him), but it would still be Emilie.
[[WMG:Like Shadybug and Claw Noir the events of the movie canonically take place in an alternate timeline to the main series.]]

[[folder:Season 1-2]]

[[folder:Others]]
[[WMG:Gabriel has a InferioritySuperiorityComplex]]
In the fine tradition of UptownGirl, Gabriel grew up poor and his wife came from OldMoney. Feeling self-conscious about his humble origins in comparison, Gabriel strived to become the wealthy, sophisticated man he considered worthy of his then-girlfriend. Clearly, he succeeded and became the SelfMadeMan he is today. Sadly, now that his love is not around to remind him how she couldn’t give a flapdoodle how powerful, important or rich her husband is, Gabriel’s psychological need to be the "best" version of himself is getting worse.

[[WMG:Sabrina will get some real friends.]]
While there was an attempt to get her away from Chloé in "Evillustrator," all Sabrina did was try to make Marinette her new leader. So an alternate route will eventually be explored: Sabrina enters a group without Chloé for an assignment, (probably Rose and Juleka, to invoke BlondeBrunetteRedhead,) and she will be rendered unable to choose a temporary Chloé. Sabrina discovers new interests and the joy of friendship on equal footing. Even if she returns to Chloé's side in the end — because without her, the AlphaBitch will have no-one at all — StatusQuoIsGod will still be averted, because she goes back with a mind of her own, and, hopefully, [[SignificantWardrobeShift a nicer outfit]].

[[WMG:Rose is a GradeSkipper.]]
I don't know how the French collège curriculum works, but Rose's design and innocence make her seem younger than her classmates.

[[WMG:Félix Agreste will make an appearance...sort of.]]
In an expository flashback, we will see a teen Gabriel Agreste, who will be a dead ringer for Félix. As a possible bonus, if the theory that Gabriel was holder of the peacock miraculous is true, his costume will take cues from the original Cat Noir.

[[WMG:Félix was Adrien's predecessor.]]
Thomas Astruc has said he wants to bring Félix back at some point, and having him appear in an episode as an ex-Cat Noir would be a neat way of fitting him in while also being able to explore the downside of Cat Noir's powers, which the show hasn't really done.
* He's Master Fu's mistake. He used his powers for evil until his time's Ladybug defeated him or Plagg revolted once he ran out of stinky cheese. Now he wants to find out the current Cat Noir's identity so he can reclaim the ring.
* Astruc has mentioned several times that he has since lost all interest in using Félix, calling him too cliché a character and generally favoring Adrien.
* He once stated point-blank that Félix will NEVER appear (emphasis ''his.'') ...So of course, Félix ''did'' go onto appear (...which makes this theory {{Jossed}}, as there's no sign of him being a miraculous wielder, past or present.)

[[WMG:Master Fu will eventually AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence.]]
Given that turtles have lifespans lasting over a century, and are therefore a symbol of longevity, being keeper of the Turtle bracelet is likely the reason Fu has lived for 180+ years. Deciding to pass on his Miraculous to another goes hand in hand with deciding that ''his'' time has come. To keep it from being too depressing, Fu will probably act as a SpiritAdvisor on occasion.
** Welp, [[{{Jossed}} he's not dead]], but it did turn out hella depressing anyway. [sniffle]

[[WMG:Cat Noir was fighting the mind control in Dark Cupid.]]
During the mind control, he talks in the exact same manner the entire time, except for when Dark Cupid offers to help him destroy Ladybug. For a moment, he drops to his normal manner of speaking to briefly say no, before going back to speaking like he was before and accepting the offer. Also, when he's fighting Ladybug alone, he says things that if you swap one word, would sound like a long drawn out confession of love. Like switching "loath" with love in "I loathe you".
* If you watch when she tries to kiss him and he's tied to a lamppost, he actually tries to kiss her too, despite dodging her attempts. You can see him make a kissing motion with his lips. In the slow motion part where he almost uses Cataclysm on her, he looks shocked and afraid. Also, when she kisses him, he kisses back once he stops being stunned even though the spell isn't broken until the kiss breaks. You can also see that when she brings him down, his lips are already puckered for a kiss even though he'd just thrown a nervous FreezeFrameBonus AsideGlance to the camera when she grabbed him. So it's actually pretty likely he was fighting it, even though he can't remember anything he did.

[[WMG:Nathaniel is secretly Raphael/Phantom R from VideoGame/RhythmThiefAndTheEmperorsTreasure, or at least is related to him in some way.]]
Because Nathaniel literally looks like a 3D version of Raphael, not to mention that they both live in Paris, which seems to be a WeirdnessMagnet in more ways than one (multiple superheroes as a result of magical items; a magic crown that can allegedly summon Napoleon; etc). Alternately, he could be an IdenticalGrandson of some sort.

[[WMG:Alix and Jalil's mother died at some point prior to the beginning of the show]]
It was possibly in the recent past—distant enough that Alix and her dad would be able to cope better with their grief and move forward, but they're still hurting over it. They've just all responded differently—Alix doubles down on her competitive spirit, Mr. Kubdel tries to accept the reality and move forward, and Jalil still hasn't let it go. It might explain why he's so enthusiastic about the possibility of bringing people back to life, while his father immediately tries to quash the notion because he knows it's better to face the real world than to continue to be foolishly optimistic.

[[WMG: Adrien getting pen-sets for the past few birthdays could either be Nathalie just being in a hurry, or]]
One of those gifts kids just don't understand or appreciate. A pen-set is often given as a sort of 'rite-of-passage' gift. A sign someone is maturing and most likely means a lot to Gabriel, and possibly his wife, as Adrien mentions getting them for the past few birthdays. Though it's possible he didn't complain as much as he got a gift from both parents in the past. A nice pen set from his father, and something from his mother.
* She isn't getting him pen-sets, she's just giving him a single pen, and Adrien says it's the same pen every year.

[[WMG:There will be a BaitAndSwitch reveal about Gabriel.]]
He will spent most of the episode on a daytrip somewhere secret, while Adrien, Marinette, and probably Alya and Nino, tail him. Instead of something shady that the kids are expecting, or the InternalReveal the audience is expecting, the whole thing is innocent, but something Gabriel considers embarrassing and hazardous to his public image: going to visit family in a working-class neighbourhood, a loved one's grave, his old school, even his childhood orphanage, etc. Realizing he's been outed, Gabriel opens up to Adrien about ''some'' details of his MysteriousPast.
* And it'll turn out to be another cover-up like the Collector.

[[WMG: Max was cheating in ''The Gamer'']]
Everything aside from this episode, when he was playing against both Adrien and Marinette, you can clearly see that his glasses are displaying codes that are clearly not in the screen they are using (Even the words "Game Over" appear when he loses). He is using a list of moves or cheat codes, either way, that's an advantage over whoever he is playing against.
* It's notable that this coding and stuff can be seen from ''outside'' his glasses as well, when the camera is facing Max, so it is unlikely that it's just a style thing to show how Max sees the game, like what they do with Ladybug and her Lucky Charm vision.


[[WMG: Adrien had a weak immune system as a child]]
It would explain why before the events of the show he never went to school (since germ laden children who have been goodness-knows-where + sensitive immune system = no go) , and why his dad is so overprotective of him (and his mother must have been too since he did not go to classes even when she was around ) and they kept this overprotective nature even when he got better, and Gabriel's overprotectiveness just skyrocketed after his wife went missing.
** [[FridgeBrilliance That's why he's allergic to feathers]]

[[WMG: Félix will be voiced by Creator/LucienDodge.]]

Mostly making this guess because he voiced another antisocial student character named Felix in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'', so he'd be a good fit.

* Jossed. He shares the same voice actor as Adrien due to being almost identical to him.

[[WMG: Nathalie is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuru_no_Ongaeshi#The_Crane_Wife crane wife]].]]

The story describes a crane who shapeshifted into a human, ripping off its own feathers (like the amoks, maybe?) to repay a debt to a human man she was in love with. The man, much like Gabriel, was horrified by her self-mutilation and told her to stop, but she didn't listen.

It fits symbolically (Nathalie isn't a peacock, not like Emilie, but she is something very close- maybe another sort of bird) and aesthetically ([[MorphicResonance that sweep of red in her hair isn't dyed, it's her "crown"]]). Note also that a species of crane lives in Tibet, where Emilie and Gabriel found the Miraculouses. Perhaps they found a new ally too? It also explains why Gabriel is comfortable [[TheMasquerade telling]] Nathalie about magic; if she's supernatural herself, she wouldn't be shocked by it.


[[WMG: By the series' end, Marinette will forget ever having been Ladybug.]]
* In "Miracle Queen" it is established that [[spoiler: when a Guardian relinquishes their position, they forfeit all memories relating to the Miraculous so as to keep the secret. It goes far enough for Master Fu to not even remember who Marinette is outside of costume. And now with Ladybug getting that position, she may well give it up come the end of the series, passing the mantle to someone else]]. And since this eliminates all Miraculous-related memories, she won't remember Cat Noir, her time as Ladybug, Tikki, etc. What this means for her character, of course, is up in the air.
** Considering episodes like Timetagger and Cat Blanc depict Ladybug and Cat Noir as co-leaders of a superhero team into adulthood, this isn't looking likely.

[[WMG: There were several instances where Parisian security cameras recorded Marinette and Adrien transforming/de-transforming.]]
But considering their young age and the importance of keeping their identity secret, the government decided to put Ladybug and Cat Noir's identity under "Secret Défense"/Official Secrecy, which means anyone who tries to reveal their identity could face a severe prison sentence.
* We've seen them transform several times in the Metro, and it's pretty much impossible to have a spot in the Parisian Metro that isn't camera'd. (Over 9500 cameras.)
* Probably not, as the setting appears to be an alternate universe utopian Paris where security cameras either aren't necessary or are easily avoidable.
* It's confirmed in Season 3 that the Kwamis can't be detected by any electronic means, and the New York special confirms that the Miraculous Holders have a 'quantum field' that messes with human minds' perception, so their transformations are pretty much undetectable unless someone is right there to watch it in person.
** They do not need to record the kwami: even if the cameras do not directly record them transforming [[labelnote:That is to say]] They see Adrien or Marinette head to a blind spot and then Cat Noir / Ladybug comes out or viceversa. [[/labelnote]], the guards will do 2+2 and assume their secret identity.
* Well... the entire parisian security force is utterly HELPLESS. We never see any cop, any firemen nor ambulances helping people. It's all up to Ladybug and Cat Noir. Maybe [[CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys the entire parisian security had just given up]]. They won't put any detective work about finding Hawk Moth, and they won't find two teenagers.

[[WMG: If a Season 2 is made, there will be an episode about the November 2015 Paris terrorist attacks.]]
Given the nature of this show however, it's extremely unlikely, plus, even then, it would still be "too soon".
* I was more thinking that they'd put a situation in the show that, although it's not like the Paris attacks, would seem like a serious situation for Ladybug and Cat Noir. Most likely, I think there should be an episode about loss or (the most likely situation), there can be an episode with a new, strong villain who is a serious threat to Paris. Eventually, he defeats Ladybug and Cat Noir, causing them to loose their powers, which reveals Adrien and Marinette's superhero identities to each other, and Marinette and Adrien have to work together to get their powers back.
* The Darkblade episode had a few noteworthy coincidences with the tragedy. [[spoiler: A group dressed in black, motivated by rage at a French politician and by a belief in how things should be ruled, storm an event featuring an American rock musician.]] This episode first aired in South Korea a half week after the attacks. The parallels were so noticeable so soon after, that it could only be a big coincidence or an intentional episode selection meant as a tribute.

[[WMG: Many events from season 1 will get more attention in next season]]
Alya dating Nino, Marinette becoming class president, Adrien's lucky bracelet he got from Marinette...all these were used only once on purpose, since season 1 tried to have as little continuity as possible, since all countries aired episodes in different order.
* [[spoiler:Well, Alya and Nino still seem to be together, and the lucky bracelet returned in "La Befana".]]
** [[spoiler: The latter point is incorrect- he made her a new bracelet. He keeps the other one and states he always carries it on him. He's even holding it in his hand at the end of the episode.]]

[[WMG: Season 2 will have a more linear narrative]]
Season 1 was great at worldbuilding and establishing the character dynamics, but its back five episodes drew on way too many plot threads that would have to be resolved in a linear fashion next season.

[[WMG: Past Miraculous bearers were the inspiration for in-universe comic book superheroes.]]
Like one Black Cat was the inadvertent inspiration for a Black Panther-like comic book hero, or a past Ladybug inspired a Wonder Woman-like comic book hero.

[[WMG: Emilie Agreste was the Fox Miraculous holder, and Lila will be Mayura]]
The Volpina episode hints that Emilie was/will be the Peacock Miraculous holder and Lila lies that she's the Fox hero. What if Emilie wasn't the one who owned the Peacock Miraculous because she was the Fox. And if Lila is the Peacock, it will makes an irony.
[[spoiler:Jossed. Nathalie becomes Mayura and Emilie used to be that miraculous' holder.]]

[[WMG: Season 2 will end with Master Fu using the Wish to strip Hawk Moth of his Miraculous... at the cost of his own.]]
* It's been mentioned that combining the Ring of the Black Cat and the Earrings of the Ladybug allows for the casting of a single Wish, but that the yin-yang nature of the two powers will cause the magic to enact an equivalent price. Surely Astruc wouldn't go to the trouble of setting up a ChekhovsGun like that and neglect to use it.
* [[spoiler: It's been confirmed that Nino will acquire the Turtle Bracelet at some point, which would require Master Fu to first lose it.]]
* [[spoiler: It's also confirmed that Marinette will be distributing the new Miraculouses, suggesting that something will happen to Master Fu.]]
* [[spoiler: Mayura is confirmed to be the villain of Season 3, which requires Hawk Moth to be got out of the way first.]]
* For all these reasons, I suspect that during the final episode of Season 2, Hawk Moth will do something exceptionally destructive, something that for some reason Ladybug cannot fix. Master Fu will decide that this incident proves that Hawk Moth must be defeated at whatever cost. He asks Marinette and Adrien to loan him their Miraculouses, and uses the Wish to take away Hawk Moth's Miraculous. But the price of the Wish will be that he shall lose his own connection to Wayzz and the Turtle Bracelet, and never be able to regain it.
** Except [[spoiler: Marinette can distribute Miraculouses just fine and dandy with Master Fu being around, as seen in "Sapotis" and Mayura is supposed to work with Hawk Moth, not be a solo act]].

[[WMG: Recurring theme in season 4?]]

I have noticed that every season in this show has had a recurring theme.

Season 1 was based on new beginnings, season 2 was the meaning of heroics and what it meant to be a hero, season 3 relied on changes happening. Could a new theme on season 4 be based on the past, going by the trailers shown?
* Consequences. So far every episode has been dealing with the fallout of prior actions or decisions.

[[WMG: Marinette will become the new Great Guardian in Season 2]]
[[spoiler: With the knowledge that Nino will obtain Wayzz's Miraculous and that Marinette will be the one distributing the other Miraculouses]], this may mean that Master Fu's time has come, and he passes his job on to Marinette.
* Jossed, [[spoiler: but it seems to be happening in Season 4]].

[[WMG: Gabriel will actually succeed at getting Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses, and use them to cast the Wish...]]
... at which point one (or more) of three things could happen.
* First, something goes spectacularly wrong. Perhaps using the Wish to call back Emilie opens the path for some other evil, perhaps he misphrases his wish, perhaps the price ends up being something more or other than what he expects, perhaps Emilie is actually a villain.
* Second, he succeeds at getting back his wife, but Adrien manages to put two and two together and now knows that his father is/was Hawk Moth.
* Third, he succeeds at getting back his wife, manages to concoct a cover story, and to all appearances has gotten away with it. Adrien is ecstatic to have his mother back, and we the audience groan at the further dramatic irony.
Whichever of the three happens, after he has cast his Wish, Gabriel will use the last dregs of the magic to restore the Miraculouses to their rightful owners. After all, if he knows that his son is Cat Noir, he will want Adrien to have his Miraculous back.
* Fourth, his own life turns out to be the price to have his wife back. She makes up a cover story, Cat Noir goes to the bakery to return Marinette's earrings and, when she asks how he got the Miraculouses back, he explains everything, including the fact that he's Adrien Agreste and his now late father was Hawk Moth. Marinette and Adrien will try to return the Miraculouses but Master Fu tells them to keep them because there'll be a new villain. Marinette and Adrien will finally become a couple after months getting over the emotional trauma.
* Fifth, the wish will create an AlternateTimeline where Emilie was never rendered in a coma by the Peacock Miraculous, but Gabriel ''was'' and ''she'' became the Hawk Moth of that timeline. It is likely that Alex was protected from the change with the Bunny Miraculous and thus she is able to change things back to the way they were.

[[WMG: Marinette's friend group will grow to include Kagami, Zoé, and eventually Sabrina.]]
It would help Kagami and Zoé due to their friendless backgrounds to become recurring members of the girl squad from Miss Bustier's class. Adding onto the above theory of Sabrina leaving Chloé, she could join the friend group to become more independent and form healthy relationships with the other girls.

[[WMG: The Dragon that St. George fought is the GreaterScopeVillain of the show as a whole.]]

[[WMG: The above suggestion of Adrien growing tired of being LockedOutOfTheLoop will lead to Marinette unmasking herself to him.]]
If Cat does confront Ladybug about it she may decide she's been taking him for granted, and attempt to regain his trust the best way she can; telling him who she really is.

[[WMG: Chloé and Sabrina's friendship will end over Sabrina's father and after she gets the Dog Miraculous.]]
Sabrina's father Roger is the only one whom Sabrina has such UndyingLoyalty towards besides Chloé; we can see in the few scenes they share together that they love each other very much. However, with Chloé having upped the ante in being a jerk this recent season after losing her superhero powers and status, and treating Sabrina even worse than ever (making her do her homework in the dark, forcing her to run behind her limo instead of riding inside like before), she'll likely force Sabrina to give her her full and undivided attention and loyalty, leaving her no time at all to spend with Roger despite his attempts to do so. This will make him distraught enough to be akumatized by Shadow Moth, which will then cause Ladybug to recruit Sabrina as a hero, giving her the Dog Miraculous to help save her father. After everything is set and done, Chloé will continue to demand Sabrina's loyalty, but she, having grown a backbone from her experience as a superheroine, will finally have had enough and stand up to Chloé at last, resulting in a massive fight that ends with one or both of the girls ending their friendship. Afterwards, Marinette and the rest of the class, who witnessed the fight, will see how lost and uncertain Sabrina feels afterwards (since Chloé was her only friend), and offer their friendship to her and she'll accept, while Chloé, now completely friend-less, can only watch on, distraught and angry.
* Jossed. Sabrina breaks her friendship with Chloé only a season later after getting the Dog Miraculous. Also her getting the Dog Miraculous was completely unrelated to her father.

[[WMG: There is a gas leak under Paris that gradually damages the intelligence of the citizens.]]
It would explain all of the stupid decisions everyone makes and why Lila and Félix, who are both foreigners, are able to play the rest of the characters like fiddles.

[[WMG:Sabrina is actually using Chloé and not the other way around.]]
Sabrina sees pretty well that their relationship is unequal and toxic. But she doesn't really need it to be healthy. In fact, she doesn't need Chloé as a friend at all. She tolerates all this solely because she knows pretty well that Chloé would never agree to have any other kind of relationship. As Chloé's friend, she often appears in the mayor's home, and is on pretty good terms with André. Sabrina also accompanies Chloé when she meets with other powerful people, thus getting more connections. As a result, after university she can use her multiple strong connections to either have a well-paid and influential position in someone's company or even get those rich people to support her own business.

[[WMG: Zoé is older than Chloé.]]
With Audrey traveling so much it wouldn’t have been hard for her to hide a pregnancy. Her infidelity could have happened when she was in New York and just dropped Zoé off with her dad.

What’s to the noted is that when children from a foreign country move and switch schools, they are held back a year due to a variety of factors such as a language barrier. This could be why Zoé is in Chloé’s class since she’d be held back.
* Jossed. "Adoration" confirms that Zoé's a grade lower than Marinette and the rest of her classmates, which makes her canonically an year younger than Chloé

[[WMG:Sabrina is actually a spy and is going expose Chloé and Lila to everyone]] Sabrina’s friendship with Chloé will end once and for all making both but mostly Lila expelled and others stop trusting her once and for all. Sabrina finally has the backbone to stand up to Chloé and become friends with Marinette and others.
* Confirmed. This is what happens in "Confrontation", though Lila left the school on her own rather than get expelled.

[[WMG:Shambhala will be featured.]]
Tibet is going to eventually be featured, and it's unlikely that a chance to go to the holy kingdom of Tibeten myths will be passed over.

[[WMG:Master Fu has descendants.]]
Wielding a Miraculous doesn't appear to carry a vow of celibacy, given [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle an important plot line in the show]], so a man pushing his 200s can easily have some great-grandkids. One of them will become a villain.

[[WMG: Ladybug will develop a crush on Cat Noir, and Adrien develops a crush on Marinette, but they still don't know each other's identities.]]
The annoying Love Square is taken to the next level!
* Ladybug already flirts with Cat Noir, no matter how much she denies it, and "Despair Bear" made it obvious that Adrien has a romantic interest in Marinette. And they ''still'' have no clue about each other's identities.

[[WMG: In the series finale, Hawk Moth will get his hands on Ladybug's and Cat Noir's Miraculouses...]]
And he will toss off the Butterfly miraculous as being inferior to the powers of creation and destruction. Marinette will find the discarded miraculous and proceed to give a speech about how she and Cat Noir didn't win the day because of their powers, but because of teamwork. She will then put on Hawk Moth's miraculous and re-akumatize all the previous akuma victims, asking them all to help capture Ladybug and Cat Noir's miraculouses from Hawk Moth. Cue epic fight scene with cameos galore.
* If it happens, Alya will become Majestia instead of resuming her Lady Wifi form.
* Technically {{Jossed}}. He does obtain both toward the end of season 5, but this is not the end of the series, nor technically even the end of that season.

[[WMG: Gabriel Agreste was born and raised in a rural area.]]
The surname already suggests it. One episode will reveal that Gabriel left for the big city to pursue his dream of becoming a fashion designer and estranged himself from his family because they didn't agree with his ambitions.

[[WMG: Gabriel isn't Adrien's real father.]]
Adrien's real parents were Miraculous holders who perished in battle (or so Gabriel believes).
* Technically confirmed. [[spoiler:Adrien is a sentimonster with no real father.]]


[[WMG:There will possibly be an episode where either Ladybug or Cat Noir can't change back.]]
Most likely Cat Noir, since he's prone to taking hits for Ladybug and has "bad luck" as a trait, but there's always a chance it'll be Ladybug's turn. The cause will be because of the most recent akuma nailing the Miraculous with their attack, causing Cat Noir or Ladybug (or both) to be completely unable to detransform OR use their special attack again. Nor can they remove their Miraculouses to force the detransformation (but the akuma can). It would provide a hefty clue for the other into who Cat Noir/Ladybug truly is, since obviously they can't go to school or lessons in their superhero identity. Meaning their civilian selves would disappear for a while. On the one hand, Adrien's sudden disappearance would upset Marinette and he'd may have to make excuses for Nathalie and to a lesser degree his father, but on the other hand, Marinette would definitely have to outright hide from her parents and friends, lie to them, and her sudden absence while Ladybug can't change back might clue Adrien in on who Ladybug really is. Cat Noir and Ladybug might confide in the other if they can't change back, though it's a little easier to see Ladybug telling Cat Noir somehow. While it could, in theory, happen to both of them, it's more likely that it'll happen to only one of them. Unless it's meant to provide ShipTease between Ladybug and Cat Noir.

[[WMG:There will possibly be an episode where Adrien or Marinette can't transform.]]
Another staple of a series with transformation is one where the TransformationTrinket won't work for one reason or another. Considering that Ladybug is vital for taking out akumas, she's the most likely candidate. Again, this will probably be a result of the most recent akuma power, and Marinette (or Adrien) will have to get around it somehow.
* Confirmed, sorta, and already happened in season 1. In "Princess Fragance" Marinette and Tikki get separated and Marinette can't trasnform, and in "Rogercop" Plagg gets a bracelet stuck in his head, and while Adrien could technically still transform, Plagg advices against this, as the bracelet would go inside the ring too and affect Cat Noir powers

[[WMG:Marinette and Adrien will have four children.]]
In the series finale, an epilogue will be shown of the two having four children, quadruplets, consisting of two boy and two girls. This will be a subtle ShoutOut of the Love Square between them.

[[WMG: The reality of why Adrien is oblivious to Marinette's crush on him.]]
Because all Marinette is lacking to be more obvious is a giant flashing neon sign over her head that says 'Has a Crush on Adrien Agreste'.
* One of the common fanfic themes is that Adrien thinks she's still mad at him over the misunderstanding in ''Origins''.
** Very unlikely. You wouldn't get someone a Christmas present if you were mad at them.
* An alternative to that is that, instead of thinking she's still mad, Adrien thinks she's embarrassed and ashamed of making such an incorrect assumption about him and that her blushing tongue-tied antics are her trying to think of a way to apologize and/or make it up to him. Even though he's long since forgiven her and considers it water under the bridge, he doesn't want to further embarrass her by bringing up the whole issue again.
* Or the simple explanation: Adrien is a socially awkward and moderately famous model. His experience with girls crushing on him is along the lines of Chloé's antics -- i.e. hanging off of him, loudly declaring affection, and being overly forward. He doesn't really have any previous frame of reference to actually get the awkward blushing and stammering kind of crush that Marinette has on him.
* It's also possible that he thinks his fame makes Marinette nervous, or else that his father's fame makes her nervous.
** Highly unlikely, if not outright Jossed by how she treats him pre-crush in the Origins two-parter.
*** Mmm, not if he thinks (correctly) she didn't recognize him on sight and found out later.
* Or it's possible he simply just thinks Marinette is easily very flustered by little things. He personally hasn't seen much else from her.
* It's also possible that he knows Marinette has a crush on him, but is pretending not to in the hopes that she will eventually get over it.
** Or he doesn't take the idea seriously, since he knows that Marienette hates liars, and the few times he has teased or asked directly if she liked him, she has denied it and he took her at her word.
* Or he's in denial about it. He knows that Marinette has a crush on him (c'mon, it's obvious to anyone with a single braincell), but because she shares so many qualities with Ladybug and his heart belongs to Ladybug he doesn't want to think about "betraying" Ladybug.

[[WMG: Ladybug and Cat will somehow make Hawk Moth and Mayura will forget the allies identities, which will allow them to return to being heroes.]]
Given their presence in merchandise material and advertisements, it’d be very strange to set up a bunch of superheroes only to stop using them altogether because of one traitor revealing them. It’s possible that somehow the duo will force Hawk Moth and Mayura to forget, which will allow the heroes (sans Chloé whose superhero form is public knowledge), to return to their positions. Also, knowing the class and friend connections of the allied heroes would make it very easy for Hawk Moth to guess the identities of the two main heroes.
* Simultaneously jossed and confirmed. The exposed heroes returned in season 4 even though Gabriel and Nathalie retained the memories of their identities and attempted to use it against them a couple of times.

[[WMG: Marinette and/or Adrien will begin to suffer a SanitySlippage throughout Season 4.]]
WordOfGod states things are going to be like "Cat Blanc", meaning things will get more serious.

In "Kwamibuster", Marinette was able to wear all of the miraculouses and use multiple ones at the same time. Master Fu remarks that using more than one miraculous at a time puts a heavy strain on the wearer and can cause madness, Marinette being able to use so many being the mark of a strong will. However, the odds of her doing this a second time in "Miracle Queen" without beginning to feel the effects or that Adrien was left unscathed when he used the cat and snake miraculouses is highly unlikely. With Master Fu gone, it is likely that the increasing threat that Hawk Moth, Mayura and Lila pose will force the dynamic duo to pull riskier gambits and they just might be forced to use more miraculous.

The symptoms of degradation will add a sense of overarching doom to the story, with mood swings, hallucinations, insomnia, etc. Without Master Fu's help, Marinette will have just herself and Tikki to figure out how to reverse what is happening. In Adrien's case, it would probably be much worse as he has far less emotional support to fall back on and his ExtremeDoormat tendencies will force him to weather through it without help.

[[WMG: Someone will learn Ladybug's secret in the second season.]]
That "I have a secret that no one know yet" line sounds too suspicious.
* Alya seems like the most likely choice, considering how much she and Ladybug are interacting via Alya's blog. [[spoiler:Considering that Alya will also be getting a Miraculous in Season 2, they might even end up being mutual Secret Keepers.]]

[[WMG:There will be an episode or two involving the multiverse.]]
And among the universes will include [[DevelopmentGag an alternate Adrien named Félix]], and an [[ShadowArchetype Akuma!Marinette]].
* Or, combining the two ideas, Félix will be the one to get Akumatized.

[[WMG:Gabriel Agreste's crazy overprotectiveness will be explored.]]
Picture this for an episode plot: Adrien is going to model in a fashion show for his father's newest line when an akuma strikes on the other side of Paris. After brief consideration, he decides to skip the show. There will be many more just like it, right? After LB and CN win the day, Adrien returns, fully expecting no-one to have cared about his absence. However, he sees that Gabriel is freaking out and has called a small squadron of police officers to go on a manhunt for Adrien. At the sight of his son, Gabriel runs to his side and tells Adrien how worried he was, even though he was only gone for just over an hour. Adrien isn't sure how to feel, seeing Gabriel in this new light.
* Partially jossed. [[spoiler:It was explored but during a ChristmasEpisode where Adrien runs away and thinks his father won't care. It has nothing to do with a missed show or an akuma attack.]]

[[WMG:One of Hawk Moth's villains will turn against him.]]
While most of Hawk Moth's victims never or don't come close to getting the Miraculouses, one of the new ones may just succeed and try to take them for him/herself. This could lead to Hawk Moth going into the open, or a backfire on whatever villain that may be.
* Partially confirmed. [[spoiler: While Robostus didn't succeed, he tried to get the Mirculouses for himself and even attacked Hawk Moth when the latter tried to gain control.]]
* Over the course of multiple seasons, [[spoiler:Lila]] sours on working for the man [[spoiler:once]] known as Hawk Moth and turns against him.

[[WMG:Juleka has musical talent.]]
Her concept art wears a guitar case anyway.
* Confirmed in "Captain Hardrock".

[[WMG: D'Argencourt will receive the Prix Iznogoud[[note]]Iznogoud Award[[/note]].]]
As someone who so [[EpicFail epically failed]] to [[ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}} become Mayor instead of the Mayor]], he'll at least be nominated for the award.

[[WMG:There will be a TimeSkip after defeating Hawk Moth and the Miraculous holders find out each others' identities.]]

[[WMG:The code to Gabriel's secret safe is Adrien's birthday.]]
Because there's some warmth under all that frigidness.
* While that's a sweet idea, it'd be easy to guess, so unlikely something Gabriel would pick. It's not a secret he cares about his son. Relating to Adrien, it could be the day Adrien made it big as a model, or the day he learned his wife was with child. The latter is something that would be very hard to guess and that only he might know.

[[WMG:Every season of miraculous will span a year in the kids' lives and we'll see them grow up through the adventures. If we're lucky, they will also get one outfit change per season.]]
{{Jossed}} with regard to the year per season. At the end of season 5, Marinette and Adrien are just finishing ninth grade, which they started in season 1.

[[WMG:In the event Creator/MelissaFahn ever voices a character in the series...]]
There will be an outtake in which Marinette says "[[VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptunia Nep-Nep?]]"

Because why not.

[[WMG: Le Grand Paris will go out of business.]]
With the constant akuma attacks, it's only a matter of time it no longer has enough guests to keep it active. That'll make Chloé even more desperate to have something more than friendship with Adrien.
* Or at least, there will be a threat of it for an episode, but the status quo means this is unlikely to happen.

[[WMG: Kagami will be voiced in the English dub by Creator/KariWahlgren.]]
As an in-joke to [[Manga/LuckyStar another Kagami she voiced]].
* Kagami already has an English voice.

[[WMG: There will be an episode where Marinette and Adrien switch powers.]]
After the reveal, Marinette and Adrien will be playing video games at her house. One of them claims that the other wouldn't last five minutes in their shoes, leading the two to switch Miraculouses for the day for shits and giggles. Naturally, an Akuma attacks that day.
* Confirmed by leaks of Marinette as "Lady Noir" and Adrien as "Mister Bug", although the details are still unknown.
* Confirmed in "Reflekdoll", though it's not for shits that they exchange Miraculous- Plagg finds Reflekta!Marinette before Reflekta!Adrien, and she just takes the Miraculous rather than try to find Tikki. Tikki then finds Adrien searching for his ring and gives him the Ladybug earrings. They did however think the other couldn't possibly do what they do though.

[[WMG:Nathalie will have BaitAndSwitch motive similar to [[Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena Juri Arisugawa]].]]
Dialogue or, if we're lucky, flashbacks will imply that Nathalie is in love with Gabriel but lost him to her best friend. However, like Juri and Shiori, it will be revealed that the one Nathalie has been carrying a torch for is ''Emilie''. The episode in which this scenario is most likely to happen in is [[spoiler:"Catalyst," when she will be akumatized]].

[[WMG:Mayura (AKA [[spoiler:Nathalie]]) will turn AxCrazy from continuous use of the Peacock Miraculous.]]

If we're under the assumption that coughing and barely standing aren't the only side effects of using a damaged Miraculous.

[[WMG:Season 3 will end with a two-part episode.]]
All seasons so far ended like that. In this case, Lila will make good on the threat to steal Marinette's friends and it'll enable Hawk Moth to finally akumatize her, leaving Tikki and Master Fu with no choice but to allow the other Miraculous Heroes to know she's Ladybug.
* The two-parter bit is confirmed by the synopsis leak. The season finale is a two-parter called "Battle of the Miraculous". So far, the confirmed opponents are Mr. and Mrs. Bourgeois in part 1 and Chloé in part 2.

[[WMG:The broken Peacock Miraculous will be repaired in Season 3.]]
It has been shown as of the second part of Season 2 that Ladybug's powers can fix broken Miraculouses. If Mayura ever enters the fight against Ladybug (especially if Hawk Moth akumatizes her through her Miraculous), and Ladybug defeats her, Ladybug's cleansing powers could restore the Peacock Miraculous to its former state.
* Confirmed. Gabriel repairs it at the end of "Miracle Queen".

[[WMG:The defeat of Hawk Moth]]
First off, Ladybug will defeat Lila and learn that she has been willingly aiding Hawk Moth. Interrogating her leads her to the realization that someone who is willingly akumatized can retain control of their actions, giving her something she can exploit. She and Cat Noir have replicas of their Miraculouses created. They will then get a volunteer akumatized by making it seem like they have a grudge against Ladybug and Cat Noir like Lila did (most likely Alya, as she has the requisite lack of self-preservation instincts and connection to Ladybug to pull it off). The heroes will throw the fight against the akuma and surrender the fake Miraculouses, detransforming afterwards to sell the illusion (obviously, they will be wearing some sort of disguise in their civilian identity). Hawk Moth directs the akuma to either his mansion or a neutral drop-off point, unaware that the heroes are tailing said akuma. The akuma leads them to him, at which point the heroes ambush him and kick the ever-loving shit out of him.
* At least one character will compare it to ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy".
* {{Jossed}}. That's not how it plays out.

[[WMG: Hawk Moth will INTENTIONALLY try to akumatize Adrien]]

After he finds out his son is Cat Noir, Gabriel will decide he can use this in his favor, and will do his best to make his son miserable, taking away his school privileges, putting in more modeling gigs and activities. And when Adrien is unhappy what does he do to relieve the stress? Turn into Cat Noir! And that will be when the akuma gets him, turning him into Cat Blanc, then Gabriel will bribe his son (I do see Hawk moth treating Adrien like he did puppetmaster, being kinder and complimentary then he is with most of hic victims)
He offers to stop all the gigs and activities he hates and perhaps even tells the now-insane Cat that he can keep Ladybug's civilian form for himself (after all, what is a lion without his lioness?) Perhaps even convincing him that defeating her will be the only way she will ever fall for him, And he will get his beloved mother out of the deal as well.
* Confirmed in "Cat Blanc", but it didn't end well for him... or the rest of the world.

[[WMG: Nathalie is bi-romantic asexual]]

She is is helping [[spoiler: Hawk Moth]] because she is in love both Gabriel and Emilie and believes that helping can ensure Emilie comes back.

[[WMG: The series will undergo CerebusSyndrome by the time Season 3 reaches its end.]]

Specifically when the episode Cat Blanc comes out the series will shift to a more serious tone then before. Then shit will REALLY hit the fan once Season 3's 2 parter episode comes out.

[[WMG: Kagami will not survive "Miracle Queen".]]
First of all, this is not a DieForOurShip request. I do not dislike Kagami's character, and am not too concerned with the shipping. This is just what I feel like the last episode may have been hinting at.

Spoilers from Loveater/Heart Hunter below. You've been warned!

...

This ties in with a theory posted above, but even if that theory is wrong, I think Marinette's opening narration about loss was a BaitAndSwitch - it seemed like it was about losing ''Adrien'', but instead will be about losing ''Kagami''. I'm thinking HeroicSacrifice - I mean, she's the only one beside the main characters whose Miraculous isn't in Hawk Moth's hands...

Also, WordOfGod stated that Season 4 with show who will win and lose in the "Adrienette vs. Lukanette" ship. Notice whose name isn't part of either PortmanteauCoupleName?
* And Jossed. I misread the hints.

[[WMG: Chloé will be forgiven for her actions in "Miracle Queen".]]
[[spoiler:Her parents were under Hawk Moth's control and she made that deal to have them freed after all]].
* Jossed. As she only kept getting worse since that moment, she naturally wasn't.

[[WMG: Gabriel had an identical twin brother, who married Emilie's identical twin sister Amelie.]]
[[spoiler:This is the best explanation for the identical cousins Adrien and Félix. His brother died within the last year.]]
* Jossed. Colt (Félix's father) isn't Gabriel's twin, instead he created Félix with the Peacock Miraculous using his jealousy towards Gabriel's "perfect" son, that's why they look identical.

[[WMG: Félix is Adrien's half-brother, not his cousin.]]
Félix looks too much like Adrien to just be his cousin. At some point Gabriel had an affair with Amelie, the question is whether it happened before or after Emilie's was put in the glass case (in which case Gabriel might have slept with Amelie out of grief because she looks identical).

* Since Félix and Adrien appear to be the same age, and Emilie only "disappeared" a year ago, the affair would have to be years ago.

* Jossed. They look the same cause they're both sentihumans, but they were created by different people (Adrien by his mom Emilie and Félix by his father Colt).

[[WMG: Marinette has an undiagnosed inner ear problem.]]
After all, she's incredibly clumsy and uncoordinated. She often falls over randomly, simply because she turned her head. Her sudden improvement as Ladybug could simply be Tikki compensating for the problem. In her first outing as Ladybug, in the Origin two-parter, she was still clumsy, which could have be Tikki still adjusting and figuring out how to compensate.

* However, it could also be psychological, as she showed no sign of her usual clumsiness when [[spoiler: her memory got wiped in Oblivio]].

* Some sort of anxiety or panic disorder would fit. Marinette is quite quick to jump to worst case scenarios and when surprised often jumps or flails her arms around as a result.

* Adoration in season 5 confirms her issues are at least partially psychological.

[[WMG: Chloé will be arrested for what she did in Miracle Queen.]]
Chloé ''did'' [[MoralEventHorizon help a known terrorist after all]]. While neither Ladybug or Cat Noir will probably reveal this, possibly to protect Chloé's safety, the news will leak and Chloé might face some [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty consequences]] for her actions.
* As far as we know only Ladybug, Cat Noir, Hawk Moth and Mayura remember anything. It is very likely that nothing will happen.

[[WMG: Most Miraculous are former akumatized objects.]]
I'm just spitballing on this one, but I can't help but notice a similarity between akumatized objects and Miraculous - seemingly innocuous items that supernatural beings enter to become {{Transformation Trinket}}s for people. Perhaps, under the right circumstances, akumatized objects can ''become'' Miraculous, and this might be how most of the Miraculous were formed in the first place (obviously not Nooroo's though!) It's even theoretically possible that many of the kwamis are [[UpliftedAnimal uplifted]] akumas. (Granted, I believe it's been stated that Tikki is the oldest kwami, and Plagg was at least alive during the time of dinosaurs, so if this is the case, it's apparently not true of them.)
* It seems more likely that the inverse is true, the concept of the Butterfly Miraculous was the creation of temporary Miraculous.
* {{Jossed}}, especially if one considers the rings that most of the Miraculous are reforged into to be new Miraculous.

[[WMG: The Order will interfere with Marinette.]]
With the Order restored, it won't be long (considering modern news and TV) before word reaches them about the Miracle Box being in Paris. They will send an envoy to Paris who will either demand Marinette return the Box or assume an inferior mentor role to Fu, likely the second. The envoy will be extremely critical of Ladybug and Cat Noir but particularly the former considering she possesses the Box. Also, the two Miraculous holders haven't received the particular training necessary for their jobs, he deems them unworthy and incapable. Fu should have been more critical of who he chose rather than deciding in a moment of necessity. We know the Order relied on archaic and somewhat cruel practices; making Fu go on a hunger strike. This will set him up as being a foil to Fu. He is a by-the-book, rule follower whereas Fu was far more lenient. Compare how in ''[[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]]'' when Giles was replaced by Wesley as Buffy's watcher. There will possibly be a situation with an akuma/amok where he deems the heroes incapable and doing a poor job. Thus, he takes up a Miraculous. However, despite his immense knowledge of the Miraculous, he struggles to put it into practise and LB and CN will save the day. When it comes down to it, the envoy will realise Marinette and Adrien have done great work while as Ladybug and Cat Noir. He'll then leave Paris and return to the Order, asserting Marinette's status as a Guardian and leaving the Box in her care. He'll become a champion of Marinette and heavily supportive of her role as Ladybug and caretaker of the Miraculous.

This will likely result in the Order loosening their grip on their practices and rejoining with the wider world. Also, they will possibly remain involved in the "Parisian Miraculous Crisis of '15" (from a distance) while allowing the heroes to maintain their autonomy. They'll probably become active and help during particular crises, think the Catalyst incident.
* Almost entirely confirmed. Su-Han takes the box back and tries to coerce the heroes into giving up their Miraculous, but comes around after realizing the two have a pretty good handle on things and that he's not actually helping the situation. However, ''because'' he's completely by-the-book, he does not use a Miraculous himself (it's forbidden). He also does not go back to the temple, but decides to keep an eye on the situation in Paris while trying to catch up on the modern era.

[[WMG: Chloé will have one last change of heart that will win the day in the GrandFinale.]]
Chloé has always been established as a HateSink and an AlphaBitch with HiddenDepths that makes her a JerkWithAHeartOfGold when push comes to shove (DependingOnTheWriter). In Season 3 two-part finale, Chloé had reached MoralEventHorizon when she has Hawk Moth akumatize her ''willingly'' and permanently loses Ladybug's trust, this being TheLastStraw after three seasons of on-and-off CharacterDevelopment and attempts at being better.

This is likely to mean that Season 4 Chloé will become a more active and willful antagonist in a similar vein as Lila (perhaps even having the two of them becoming allies under Hawk Moth's direct orders). However, whereas Lila is a high-functioning sociopath, Chloé is a SpoiledBrat capable of being better but has simply fallen off the wagon. Whether or not Hawk Moth and Lila knows this or [[EvilCannotComprehendGood have complete faith in Chloé's worse nature]] is up for debate, but Chloé can be a serious wild-card that can either help cause the right kind of chaos that Hawk Moth can use or make her a SpannerInTheWorks that can make a carefully crafted EvilPlan fall apart due to her habit of doing before thinking.

With this it is likely that she will eventually develop a conscious, seeing the lengths that the other villains will go to and realize that she just doesn't have the stomach for it. With this in mind, she will try to find ways of regaining the hero's trust and will ultimately be the DeusExMachina that finally takes down Hawk Moth. Perhaps Hawk Moth gives her the Bee Miraculous after stealing it back and then she paralyzes him when his back it turned, unmasking him for all to see. Or maybe she happens upon Ladybug as she transforms back into Marinette (without Marinette knowing of course) and [[SecretSecretKeeper decides to keep it to herself]], an astonishing sign that her CharacterDevelopment hasn't completely left on account of the fact that Chloé sucks at keeping secrets.
* Jossed. Chlo;eacute; was willing to go to all the lengths Gabriel and Lila were pushing her to without any ounce of conscious or remorse. Towards the end of S5 she ends up leaving Paris in disgrace.

[[WMG: Mr. Banana isn't the name of a person who goes around in a banana costume, but the character that the costume is of.]]

It may not even be the same person wearing it from episode to episode.

[[WMG: The entire plot of the cartoon started in an effort to make polygamy legal with superpowers.]]

Emilie Agreste and Gabriel Agreste wanted to add Nathalie Sancoeur to the marriage and try to use the Peacock Miraculous and the Butterfly Miraculous but that made Emilie Agreste fall into a coma.

!!The reason why Marinette was unaffected by carrying so many kwamis in [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS03E14Kwamibuster Kwamibuster]]
According to master fu, it is dangerous to carry several kwamis, [[labelnote:although]] both Marinette and Adrien have taken two each without problems, which indicates that this is not dangerous [[/labelnote]]; Actually, Marinette could resist wearing so many not because she had something special, but because she was divided into several copies and each one carries a prodigy in addition to the mouse.

[[WMG: Mr. Ramier will be the first to get an anti-akuma charm]]
* It's been announced that Mr. Pigeon will be the main villain of the fourth episode of season 4. The sixth episode shows that Ladybug will soon give out special charms to akuma victims to prevent them from getting akumatized again, and it makes sense that someone [[RecurringBoss who gets akumatized as many times as he does]] [[RunningGagged would be the first to recieve one]].
** Confirmed.

[[WMG: there will be It’s a wonderful life parody episode.]]
The Akuma will sent Ladybug to an alternative universe where Marinette is never born.

[[WMG: Adrien is the reason Gabriel's first attempt to claim the Prodigious failed.]]
He last tried 15 years ago, which lines up with Adrien's age. Maybe a plan to travel to Shanghai for the eclipse was cancelled after learning Emille was pregnant.

[[WMG: The show will end with Marinette/Ladybug stopping Hawk Moth and saving but at cost of her existence.]]
* Everyone’s memories will be erased except Adrien's.

[[WMG: Audrey was in a relationship with Zoé's father before she left Chloé and André.]]
It's mentioned that Audrey spends most of her time in NYC due to her job in the fashion industry. Given the half-sisters close ages and that she had been married to André for twenty years, it's possible she had been with Zoé's father for quite some time, since it's clear she had always been traveling between the cities in that time frame. At the very least she had to have known him well enough to become pregnant with his daughter.

[[WMG: Chloé will slowly lose everything over the course of Season 4, leading a massive BreakTheHaughty.]]
As of "Queen Banana", her rotten and entitled personality has isolated her from her classmates even more, her half-sister is receiving all the attention and love she wants, and her father angrily refuses to get rid of Zoé because he won't hurt her for Chloé's sake. [[spoiler: She even broke off her friendship with Adrien when he refused to side with her for her stubbornness and {{Jerkass}} attitude about sabotaging the student movie.]] Something huge will happen that leads Sabrina to finally grow a backbone and abandon Chloé for better friends and being treated like a human being. And that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back for Chloé.

! Miscellaneous Theories

[[folder:Season 5 Theories ('''Unmarked Spoilers''')]]

[[WMG: Alya will discover Lila's treachery by Lila wearing the Fox Miraculous.]]

Now that Hawk Moth has gained all the Miraculous of the temporary heroes, he might decide to entrust one of his field agents with one of them - namely, the Fox Miraculous, which Lila has long coveted. He might even ask her to create some chaos with the Fox Miraculous itself, instead of merely Akumatizing her. If Alya spots the Fox Miraculous around her neck at school (completely ignoring how Alya ignored Lila's fake Fox pendent that "fell" out of Marinette's locker), then she might realize finally that Lila's a liar and that the only way she would have the Fox Miraculous (Alya's former Miraculous) is if she's in league with Hawk Moth. Bonus points if Trixx manages to somehow signal Alya.
* Given that the Miraculouses have been destroyed to make the alliance rings, this seems unlikely.
* {{Jossed}}. When Alya (and everyone else) did discover that Lila is a liar, it had nothing to do with the Fox Miraculous, or any miraculous for that matter.

[[WMG:The revealed titles refer to the Miraculous being focused on.]]

Nineteen of the 27 episode titles are the same as the concepts represented by the Miraculous in the Chinese Miracle Box. This is a departure from previous seasons, in which they were nearly all named for the Akuma/Sentimonster featured; the thought is that most of them will center around that Kwami and also involve Hawk Moth using (or trying to use) an Akuma with a power related to the respective Miraculous, which will lead to Marinette recovering that Miraculous. (Not sure how "Destruction" will relate to the Akuma though, since Hawk Moth doesn't have that one.)

* 01: Evolution (Rabbit)
* 02: Multiplication (Mouse)
* 03: Destruction (Cat)
* 04: Jubilation (Pig)
* 05: Illusion (Fox)
* 06: Determination (Ox)
* 07: Passion (Goat)
* 08: Reunion ()
* 09: Exaltation (Tiger)
* 10: The Kwami's Choice, Part 1: Transmission (Butterfly)
* 11: The Kwami's Choice, Part 2: Deflagration (translated as "Blast") ()
* 12: Perfection (Dragon)
* 13: Migration (Horse - "Teleportation" is the English name of its power)
* 14: Derision (Monkey)
* 15: Intuition (Snake)
* 16: Protection (Turtle)
* 17: Adoration (Dog)
* 18: Emotion (Peacock)
* 19: Pretention (Rooster)
* 20: Revelation ()
* 21: Confrontation ()
* 22: Collusion ()
* 23: Revolution ()
* 24: Representation ()
* 25: The Last Day, Part 1: Conformation ()
* 26: The Last Day, Part 2: Re-creation (Ladybug)
* 27: Action (Bee - "Subjection" is the English name of its power)
* This is debunked as only the Rabbit Miraculous got retrieved in 'Evolution', the rest of the stolen Miraculous got turned into rings used for transmitting the Miraculous superpowers to the supervillains without giving them the actual Miraculous.

[[WMG:The Last Day two-parter might mean the last day of school for everyone.]]

Could even mean last day of middle school, and season 6 and 7 will take place in high school. At least in the French dub. I'm not sure how the English dub would handle that if that's the case.
* They could retcon it for the English dub to have high school grades 10-12. Or the middle school and high school are all in one building just in different wings.

[[WMG: Episode 20, "Revelation", will feature Ladybug and Cat Noir [[TheUnmasking revealing their identites to each other]] and/or learning that Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth.]]
* And unlike in Ephemeral, TheReveal is for real this time.
* {{Jossed}}. The episode is about Lila being revealed to be LivingADoubleLife, manipulating Chloé into being her deputy as class rep, and the entire class into making her class rep, as well as her discovering [[BigBad Gabriel's]] secrets from a brainwashed Nathalie.

[[WMG:Chloé will be brought into the fold.]]

The fact that the last episode is named after the Bee Miraculous, one which Chloé has coveted as Queen Bee seems significant to end the season. We already know that Hawk Moth is not above recruting people to do his dirty work (Lila). We also know there will be a Hawk Moth in the future, so there is a chance that he might fully recruit Chloé with the giving her of the Bee miraculous and keeping her as an enforcer. This would also fit the story arc she's had where she willingly seeks Hawk Moth's power.
* Confirmed. It happened in Collusion.
* However, Chloé isn't given back the Bee Miraculous by Gabriel, but instead an army of robots to take over the city and become the new Mayor after her dad has resigned.
[[WMG:Gabriel will initially try to use a load of Miraculouses all at once, and find out why that's a bad idea.]]

Since he has so many Miraculouses, he will be tempted by their power. While he might know theoretically that using too many is dangeous, it doesn't seem to bother him; he eventually defaulted to using two, and in ''Ephemeral'' he even used three/four. He'll likely try to fuse a ton all at once, and then suffer the consequences; this could even lead to the heroes retreiving some Miraculouses. He will then decide to only use a small number at a time and/or pick subordinates (potentially making more Akumatised Miraculous holders).
* Confirmed. It isn't what directly allows the Miraculous to be reclaimed, but Gabe learns the hard way not to use too many powers at once. Trailers for "Multiplication" (at time of writing, the next episode) show Ikari Gozen using the Mouse Miraculous.

[[WMG:Hawk Moth will try to use the Rabbit Miraculous, but will be stopped by future Bunnyx.]]

With the power of time travel, the Rabbit Miraculous is very tempting; the episode titles suggest it might even be the first one Gabriel tries to use. However, as long as he eventually loses it, future Alix will still have it and will be able to travel back and stop him. Eventually, he'll either figure it isn't worth the effort or make a mistake that allows the heroes to steal the Rabbit Miraculous back. This could also potentially lead to present Alix finally getting to transform.
* Confirmed. Though adult Bunnyx is taken out of the action pretty early, her presence allows the heroes to fight back, reclaim it, and hand it off to her teenage self.

[[WMG: Most season 5 episodes will have a DoubleMeaningTitle.]]
"Evolution" refers both to the Rabbit Miraculous, which is heavily used in that episode, and Gabriel's step forward in power. Given trailers, "Multiplication" could refer to the Mouse Miraculous or the fact that Monarch is using other people to use Miraculous against the heroes - multiplying his forces, as it were. I have a hunch the other episodes named for Miraculous concepts could be in the same boat (except maybe Action, given what I've heard of its dubious canonicity.)

[[WMG: Chloé will finally hit her rock bottom.]]
With their alliance starting in Penalteam, Chloé and Lila will become major threats to Marinette and Ladybug, with Chloé as the brawn and Lila as the brains. As time goes on though, Lila will take charge and manipulate Chloé into becoming the worst she's ever been, possibly to the point of finally alienating Sabrina aka Chloé's last link to any decency still in her, and willingly and openly becoming Monarch's ally. But of course, Ladybug and Cat Noir will eventually take them down as usual, and Lila will run off into the shadows to protect herself, leaving Chloé alone to take all the heat and become essentially the most hated person in Paris. And after realizing she has burned just about every bridge she has, Chloé will finally realize just how alone she truly is in the world.

[[WMG:Hawk Moth is slowly dying and he doesn't even realize it.]]
We already know that using too many powers at once can have extremely bad effects on the person using them. Hawk Moth has taken steps to mitigate this after he learned that, but it feels likely that continued exposure to several Miraculouses will start to affect his mind. This whole thing could end up worse by the fact he was hit by Cat Noir's cataclysm, which we already see is spreading and that is possibly killing him very slowly. Both of these things could end up leading to Hawk Moth going down a SanitySlippage as he is consumed by his mind being destroyed by the Miraculouses and his slow death from the Cataclysm. Eventually, this leads him to make a desperate final attack, which leads to his defeat. The final two-parter of the season is called "The Last Day," maybe it means Hawk Moth's literal last day.
* Hawk Moth is indeed slowly dying this season, but it's cause of Cat Noir's Cataclysm wound and he does realize it.

[[WMG:Monarch will be unmasked by the end of the season.]]
Between the Cataclysm wound and the Alliance rings, Gabriel now has two things that link him to Monarch. Either the wound will get bad enough that Gabriel is unable to hide it anymore, at least in private, allowing Adrien to realize that his father is Monarch, or Marinette and/or Adrien will figure out that the Alliance Rings are how Monarch transfers the Miraculous powers, and as one of the developers, Gabriel will become at least a suspected ally of Monarch, if the heroes don't immediately realize that he is Monarch.

[[WMG:The Lucky Charm from Destruction will return.]]
Monarch escaped with the Lucky Charm with him, which prevented Ladybug from using the Miraculous Ladybugs to undo the damage from that battle.

Instead, the team will recover that Charm much later, perhaps even at the end of the season, and Ladybug will then be able to use it to undo much more — not just Monarch's injury, but also restoring all the Miraculous to their original forms, because the reforging was also "damage done by a villain" around the time of the Charm's creation.
* Don't the Lucky Charms disappear when Ladybug detransforms?

[[WMG: Bunnyx will find out Ladybug, Cat Noir and Monarch's identities.]]
Now that her present self has the Rabbit Miraculous, Alix can use it to find out Ladybug, Cat Noir and/or Monarch's secret identities by going back in time. Maybe she can even tell the latter to the former two.

[[WMG: Lila will replace Gabriel as the main villain of the series.]]
Lila knows Gabriel is Monarch and has now discovered all his secrets and is planning to steal his Miraculous. By the end of the season, Gabriel will succumb to the effects of Cataclysm and Lila will somehow use that get her hands on his Miraculous. This will coincide with everybody finding out the truth about her and her many lies, necessitating her going into hiding and becoming a full on villain.

[[folder:Season 6 Theories ('''Unmarked Spoilers''')]]

[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]

This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding ruined it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.

[[WMG: Lila will not reveal herself to the public like Gabriel did.]]

Compared to Gabriel, Lila is far more secretive, so it makes sense if she doesn't announce herself as the new Butterfly Miraculous holder.

[[WMG: The circumstances of the previous season's finale will prompt Cat Noir to seek to TakeALevelInBadass.]]

To be frank, the last few episodes of season five were not good to Adrien. He spent the entire final battle locked in a room while his partner/girlfriend basically soloed an army ''and'' Monarch with both his and her own Miraculouses. Even worse, he was tricked into believing that his father (who was both an emotionally AbusiveParent and the BigBad up to this point) was a (''urk'') [[FakeUltimateHero hero who sacrificed himself to help stop Monarch.]] While Marinette may have encouraged him to [[BeYourself be himself]], he may still feel the need to live up to his father's "legacy". Also, it wouldn't be unusual if he blamed himself for his father's death simply because he wasn't there to help. All of this would cause him to reflect on his performance as a superhero, and find himself lacking compared to Ladybug who kept pulling ahead more and more while Cat Noir remained where he was at the start. Bug Noir might even start to seem symbolic of how lopsided their "partnership" has become. Ultimately, he decides that it is time to step up and train to catch up with his Lady so he can be a better partner for her.

[[WMG: Miss Bustier's new school will include Mirakung Fu classes alongside meditation.]]

To go along the Order of the Guardians adapting to modern life and mindsets, they might be more inclined to teach people how to defend themselves from future akumatizations. Su-Han might thus be hired as a PE teacher as well as a supervisor for that class.

[[WMG: Lila will take a different approach in her new disguise at school.]]

After she was already exposed for lying in "Confrontation", she doesn't want people to suspect anything, so instead of making up numerous lies to get attention, she would make up a few small ones that don't directly correlate to things she lied about as Lila or sound similar to it.

Speaking of which, I really hope she doesn't go there as Cerise, (that looks way too similar to Lila even with the different skin tone and hair, if it's even her real hair) but as a new disguise. Like the one she used in the Season 5 finale where she has a black wig and glasses on.

[[WMG: There will be a Miraculous Holder [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Civil War]].]]

Following the first WMG above, should Cat Noir and Ladybug get into conflict about the truth, news will spread out to the other holders. The team will be divided into two factions each taking the side of Ladybug and Cat Noir. Along with this, this is the time when everyone's identities will be known among each other. Below are the potential teams. Viperion and Bunnyx will abstain due to knowing how dangerous it would be for them to join the fray.

'''Ladybug's side:'''
* Ladybug
* Rena Rouge
* Vesperia
* Miss Hound
* Pigella
* Rooster Bold
* Caprikid
* Polymouse

'''Cat Noir's side:'''
* Cat Noir
* Carapace
* Ryuko
* Argos
* Pegasus
* Minotaurox
* King Monkey
* Purple Tigress

[[WMG:Cat Noir will discover the truth about Gabriel and confront Ladybug over it, but this will ''not'' lead to a falling out between them.]]

Against all odds, Adrien manages to discover that his father was Monarch as early as the middle of the season. He then confronts Ladybug as Cat Noir, fully expecting her to be angry with him for "sticking his nose where it didn't belong". To his shock and surprise however, she instead [[AintTooProudtoBeg begs]] him not to tell anyone, especially "Adrien". When Cat insists that the people of Paris deserve to know the truth, angrily pointing out that she has effectively convinced everyone to honor a '''''terrorist''''', Ladybug actually breaks down in tears and admits that she ''knows'' it isn't right or fair, but she wanted to give Adrien at least ''some'' positive memories of his father and spare him from potentially suffering a SinsOfOurFathers scenario. Realizing that Ladybug is carrying this burden for his sake, Cat calms down and assures her that it will remain a secret between the two of them. Unfortunately, this means that now he has to pretend that he still idolizes his father despite [[BrokenPedestal knowning him to be the monster he truly was.]]
* Eventually, possibly at the end of the season, Cat Noir convinces Ladybug that they have to come clean, regardless of the consequences to themselves. However, this is complicated by the presence of the new Butterfly villain, who could use the inevitable fallout to cause yet another mass Akumatization should she have figured out Hawk Moth's "Catalyst" trick by that point. There's also the fact that the reveal would absolutely '''''destroy''''' Ladybug's reputation, and by extension Cat Noir's, making it much harder for them to fight Akuma since they would no longer have the absolute trust and support of Paris. Thus, they agree to only reveal the truth after the Butterfly Miraculous is finally retrieved, creating an ominous atmosphere that would persist throughout the next season.

[[folder: Kagami Tsurugi]]
[[WMG: Kagami will eventually become Ladybug's SecretKeeper]]
And by the [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments most over-the-top]] ContrivedCoincidence possible.
* Confirmed. This is exactly what "Representation" showed to have happened.

[[WMG: She will become the main SpannerInTheWorks to the vengeful Lila.]]
[[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome And it will be glorious.]]
* Jossed. If anything, Kagami got manipulated by Lila even more heavily than everyone else, as she made her doubt her friendship with Marinette and vulnerable to Akumatization more than once.

[[WMG: Her [[spoiler:relationship with Adrien won't last.]]]]
* As much as she likes him, she will eventually discover [[spoiler:his former feelings for Ladybug. Or his feelings for Ladybug won't have truly died down]].
* Or, alternatively, he will find out somehow that [[spoiler:Marinette had feelings for him, and this will make him conflicted]].
* Or, he won't find out that [[spoiler:Marinette had feelings for him, but he will start to notice her instead]]. Perhaps while disguised as Cat Noir.
* [[spoiler: Or his feelings for Kagami won't really deepen, and Kagami will realize this.]]
* [[spoiler: Or he will hesitate too much, and Kagami will find his less assertive nature to be a turn-off. Especially if he fails to keep boundaries in place with either Chloé or Lila, or if he doesn't stand up to them when they mistreat others.]]
* [[spoiler: Another reason it won't last: at this point, they're literally copying ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil''. Star and Marco had their own love interests (Tom for Star, Jackie and later Kelly for Marco), but by the end of the series, Star/Marco (or [[CouplePormanteauName Starco]] was 100% canon. The same thing's gonna happen with Adrien and Marinette.]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed. They did break up but for none of the reasons stated above. Kagami was disappointed in Adrien because [[TheMasqueradeWillKillYourDatingLife he kept lying to her in order to protect his secret identity]]; and because [[LovingAShadow she did not like his true self.]] In addition to this, Kagami admits later that this is Marinette who is the perfect match for Adrien despite the latter have yet to discover it.]]

[[WMG: Kagami is connected to a past Dragon Miraculous holder.]]
As [[https://bookdragonlibrary.tumblr.com/post/616856677729402880/thechatsmeow-miscellaneous-miraculous this Tumblr post]] pointed out, the symbol on her mom's car is very similar to that of the Dragon Miraculous. Kagami could be a descendant of a previous wielder.

[[WMG: Félix and Kagami won't last]]
* Félix may seem like he's fighting for his and Adrien's freedom now. But eventually his own desire and goals will become more important and he will turn into a full out villain. This will of course leave Kagami dumped and heartbroken.
** Alternatively Kagami will realize that she has accidentally been using him as a replacement for Adrien, realizing that she still has feelings for Adrien and that eacute;lix is not as she imagined, which he will not take well.

[[folder:Luka Couffaine]]
[[WMG: Luka and Marinette might end up looking LikeAnOldMarriedCouple.]]
[[{{Foil}} Unlike Kagami and Adrien]] - [[CommonalityConnection who]] [[{{Foil}} are arguably]] BirdsOfAFeather - Luka and Marinette [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther will be constantly bickering but ultimately respectful and caring of each other]].
* [[spoiler: Jossed. They broke-up so early that they did not have the time to develop such a dynamic- or any.]]

[[WMG: [[HoYay Luka will develop a fond streak for Cat Noir]], similarly to [[LesYay Kagami and Ladybug]].]]
Specifically, CutenessProximity will result in Luka wanting to pet [[CuddleBug and hug]] [[CatBoy Cat Noir]]. Bonus points if that ends up as a RunningGag whenever the two them meet.
* Similarly to Kagami and Ladybug how? What LesYay are you talking about?
** Try the HoYay [[HoYay/MiraculousLadybug page]].
** Ironically, it is their ''civilian personas'' who end up getting along from the get-go.

[[WMG: Luka has an UnmanlySecret or two.]]
The punk/goth motif is just a facade, and he is more akin to [[VideoGame/Persona4 Kanji Tatsumi]]. His {{Mangst}} would be reason he turns into an Akuma. Overcoming his internal insecurities will also be his overall character arc.

[[WMG: Luka will be a happy medium of Cat Noir and Adrien]]
Kagami is something like this to Marinette and Ladybug, being sweet, gentle, awkward, and considerate like Marinette and level-headed, confident, authoritative, bossy, and strict like Ladybug. Luka will balance out Adrien and Cat Noir, being funny, witty, laid-back, and playful like Cat Noir and subdued, polite, friendly, and respectful like Adrien.

[[WMG: Luka's akuma will go into his earrings.]]
Kagami's akuma went into her ring and as Marinette's foil it the likely location.
* Jossed. It went into the mask he was holding.

[[WMG: Luka is a changeling.]]
* Bright blue hair is not a normal color for humans, and that odd ability he has to read people's emotions hints at something supernatural in his makeup. And there's just something... off about the way he moves and talks.
** Luka's hair is pretty clearly dyed, like his sister's.
** The series seems to have "anime rules" for hair, as Marinette(and several other characters, like her mom or Mireille) has blue hair, Alix pink hair, Nathaniel bright red hair and even Miss Mendeliev has purple hair.

[[folder: Chlo&eacute Bourgeois]]
[[AC: Chloé]]
[[WMG: Chloé will have a FaceHeelTurn by the end of Season 3.]]
* Judging by the events of Miraculer, and going by the fact that she still hasn't [[TookALevelInKindness become a significantly better person]], it's possible that she'll join Hawk Moth and Mayura and declare war on Ladybug.
* What's more, if the spoilers regarding [[spoiler: ''someone else'' becoming the Bee Miraculous holder/Queen Bee]] are true, Chloé could become '''extremely''' embittered by, what she views as, a slight on Ladybug's part and join Hawk Moth.
* Confirmed.
[[WMG: Chloé will have a JerkassRealization.]]
Specifically, it will dawn on the AlphaBitch just how much BeingEvilSucks. It will happen something like this: Chloé announces that she will be throwing a party, most likely for her birthday, and starts tempting her classmates to jump through hoops for an invitation. Naturally, she ignores everyone's complaints about being baited like dogs, until Adrien, who's already having a bad day, is finally pushed to the brink and essentially tells his semi-friend to get over herself. At the party, Chloé is shocked to find that, aside from Sabrina and her father's employees, NO-ONE shows up. At first, she decides that she didn't want the riffraff at her party anyway, but she eventually gets sick of hearing nothing but "Whatever you want, Chloé." and starts thinking that maybe it's better to be around real people rather than sycophants. All this will be the first step on her road to CharacterDevelopment.
* Or she might get confronted by someone who's an even bigger AlphaBitch than she is, only in a BitchInSheepsClothing way. This girl shows up at school and at first, Chloé thinks the world of her, even if she's got the odd habit of treating her "inferiors" well...until the new girl goes on a date with Adrien, that eventually spins into several dates. Furious that someone would steal her Adrien, Chloé does some digging and discovers that the new girl is blackmailing Adrien, stumbling upon them having an argument that makes what she's doing clear without giving away what her dirt is (as it would probably be him being Cat Noir). Chloé tries to get help but no one believes her since Chloé has been her normal self and the new girl has been treating everyone sweetly. Desperate, Chloé ends up going to Marinette who only believes her for Adrien's sake and makes that clear. Chloé ends up gaining respect for Marinette and even has the beginning of a HeelRealization about her constant fawning over Adrien since it's becoming quite clear that he's not interested in her romantically.
* Or, she gets a Miraculous (like the bee) and after the first few times she slowly realizes the Akumas are all people she annoyed/insulted earlier. It may take a bit, but she will soon realize almost everything with the akumas is her fault, or at least she contributes heavily and that will cause her HeelFaceTurn. After all, fighting classmates personally and watching them detransform is different from cheering Ladybug on from afar.
* She kinda gets a short-lived variation at the end of "Zombizou". Sure she admits to Miss Bustier that it's her fault she was akumatized and forgot it was her birthday, but she refuses to admit it to the rest of the class. Marinette (who saw as Ladybug) realizes that Chloé does have the potential to be a good person, if she is set a positive example.

[[WMG:Chloé dyes her hair.]]
So she can undergo a ExpositoryHairstyleChange during or after a HeelFaceTurn.
* Technically it's called bleaching if you mean she currently does something to her hair.
* Possibly this, or she gets an ImportantHaircut

[[WMG:Marinette committed some slight against Chloé in the past.]]
Chloé is generally insufferable to everyone around her, but it's clear that she consciously ''tries'' to torment Marinette. It is possible that the time they first came into contact around four years ago, Marinette innocently did or said something that angered Chloé enough to declare vengeance, and she has never realized. Of course, it's still Chloé's fault for being [[EvilIsPetty petty]] enough to hold the grudge for this long, but if Marinette learns of what happened and has the humility to apologize for it, it could be the start of the girls mending their fences.
* She might just be jealous of Marinette. After all, Marinette is very talented and her family is very close.

[[WMG:The basis for Chloé's crush on Adrien.]]
We have no idea why or for how long Chloé's mother has been out of the picture, but say that it's been much longer than the four or five years since Adrien's mother disappeared, around kindergarten or grade school. As a little girl who had everything in life besides a mother figure, Chloé quickly latched onto the sweet, beautiful mother of her friend Adrien. So much so that she declared her intentions to grow up and marry Adrien so his mother would become hers. Being the SpoiledBrat she is, Chloé immaturely holds onto her childhood dream even though the true object of her desire has vanished.

[[WMG:A key part of Chloé's redemption arc will be a reunion with her MissingMom.]]
Mrs. Bourgeois has been absent ever since essentially abandoning Chloé at a young age, but she makes an unexpected appearance in an episode with the declaration of wanting to reconnect. Unfortunately, this is all revealed to be a ruse: Her mother was and still is an egotistic GoldDigger who married André in the first place because, like with their daughter, he has always catered to her every whim, and she's back to exploit money, political influence or publicity. Even if she has some maternal love for Chloé, it's not enough to make the woman want to change her ways. Chloé will be struck with the painful realization that [[ShadowArchetype her mother is precisely what she is in danger of becoming]], so she [[CallingTheOldManOut rips the bi-atch a new one for being so selfish and manipulative]], and starts taking the steps to ensure she never falls so low.
* Alternatively, Chloé will be overcome with hurt upon realizing the kind of woman her mother is and [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness breaks down crying]]. If Marinette can be witness to this, it would turn her perception of Chloé right on its head.
* I like this idea, and the idea that her mom is a terrible person, but I prefer to think that Mme Bourgeois comes from old money herself and is a cold, haughty fashion model. I like to think that Chloé is the way she is because she's constantly trying to impress her mother, who has never felt Chloé is good enough. It matches with how Chloé is so desperate for attention and to be the best and most impressive person, and why Chloé never talks about her.
* Jossed. Reuniting her with her MissingMom only made her worse over time.

[[WMG:Chloé will fail to bully Lila.]]
90% of Chloé's submission tactics is to play the Mayor's daughter card, but if there's one person who Mayor Bourgeois wouldn't want to get on the bad side of, it's a foreign diplomat like Lila's parent(s)...provided that what Alya said about Lila's parentage actually was the truth, of course. After being told by André that the Rossis are not to be so much as irked, Chloé begrudgingly leaves Lila alone.
* It doesn't need to be so complex. Lila could just be wholly unaffected by Chloé.
* Confirmed.

[[WMG: Chloé has a InferioritySuperiorityComplex]]
That is, Chloé does truly believe she's beloved and the best, but does not think this is enough. This is slightly hinted at by how she actively tries to be the best even though she clearly already thinks she is, as well as how often she states that she's loved and "the best". She seems to truly believe it, and yet, she constantly tries to make people like her and have people say she's "the best". Even though she truly seems to believe she's popular, she still feels the need to try and get rid of her competition and buy popularity. This may also be the driving force behind her crush on Adrien, who is a young, extremely talented, handsome model who makes it seem like his life is perfect. She likes him because he's got the things she's looking for. Genuine popularity and talent, for instance. Chloé also noticeably never does anything herself, preferring to use people who she knows can do it to handle things for her, like Sabrina and Marinette. Chloé's mother, whom we have not yet seen, may be the driving force behind this. [[WellDoneSonGuy She may directly or indirectly make Chloé think she'll never be good enough in her mother's eyes]], even though Chloé tries very hard for it. André is almost so nice a parent, with a slight strict streak, that I can't help but wonder if his wife is very different from him.

[[WMG: Chloé will completely fail to maintain a secret identity once she gets the Bee Miraculous.]]
Because even after a HeelFaceTurn, her ego will still be massive enough that on some level she'll ''want'' everybody to know that the new superhero is her.
* Knowing Chloé, she'll just announce it immediately, no HeelFaceTurn needed.
* Confirmed. The first thing she does after getting the Bee Miraculous is to scream at the top of her lungs that she's Queen Bee.

[[WMG: Chloé will reject her Miraculous, at least at first]]
Assuming the Bee is simply not capable of being a solo act, nor is its hero ever meant to be part of the spotlight. Chloé is at first delighted to become a superhero (after getting over the shock of Pollen), but quickly learns that not only is it not all fun and games, but she can't even be the star. The Bee is meant to support, not act. Since Chloé is all about attention, she rejects her Miraculous. However, she does attempt to get it back and fails, forcing her to actually ''ask'' for it back.
* Jossed. She jumps at the call, with disastrous consequences.

[[WMG: Chloé will have to make a HeroicSacrifice]]
If she gets CharacterDevelopment and goes through HeelFaceTurn, that is. There are two ways this may occur:
* It will come ''before'' she gets her Miraculous. Maybe she will find out about Ladybug's or Cat Noir's secret identity, through considering that she is Adrien's childhood friend, it's likely going to be the latter. Then later, Hawk Moth will ask her to give her their Miraculous in exchange for something of hers - at best something like her wealth and at worst her freedom. After seeing her selfless sacrifice, Master Fu will give her a Miraculous and somehow, the ResetButton will be pushed as well and she will get back what she lost.
* It will come ''after'' she gets her Miraculous. At first, she will be an AntiHero who only fights evil for fame, but eventually, someone she cares about - Adrien, Sabrina, her father, etc. - will be kidnapped by Hawk Moth, who will ask her to give up her Miraculous in exchange for their lifes - maybe the other Miraculous holders will be in a similar position, which will result in an arc where Marinette, Adrien and Chloé will have to save Paris without any powers.
* Jossed. She ended up being a villain.

[[WMG: Chloé is insane.]]
* Not in an InsaneEqualsViolent way, of course, but with a massive case of BelievingTheirOwnLies. That is why she does things like insist that she hadn't offended anyone recently in "Antibug" even though she'd just had a fight with Sabrina, or thinking that everyone loves her despite the fact that everyone else can see the whole class hates her, or insisting that she and Ladybug are best buds even though they barely know each other. She isn't an idiot, or even lying in the normal sense, she literally can't tell the difference between her fantasies and reality. Her father doesn't grasp just how bad the situation is, and is therefore enabling her delusions because he doesn't know what else to do.
** This also explains why Ladybug calling her out broke her so utterly in ''Antibug''. She couldn't deny or explain her way around what she was hearing, so she was forced to confront the actual truth. And then by the end she'd managed to repress the realization, and was back to normal.

[[WMG:Chloé is a TakeThat at the {{Superhero}} genre's MisaimedFandom.]]
Pretty much everyone knows them - the guy or girl who goes out to see ''Film/{{Thor}}'' or ''Film/{{Captain America|TheFirstAvenger}}'' and goes on and on about how cool and powerful the character is and how they're such a huge fan, only to then spend the whole night moaning and ranting because on the way back from the movie theater some "smelly homeless bum" dared to ask them for a single penny on their "hard-earned" allowance from daddy.

Pretty much describes Chloé to a tee. She loves Ladybug and is fond of calling herself the superhero's "most devoted fan" but doesn't have any understanding of the actual heroic traits that make Ladybug the hero. In fact she utterly despises Ladybug's civilian persona Marinette specifically because Marinette possesses those same heroic qualities. It's obvious she only likes Ladybug because Ladybug is popular.

[[folder: Bourgeois Family]]
[[WMG:The Bourgeois are related to the [[WesternAnimation/BeverlyHillsTeens Duprees]]]]
It's obvious Chloé takes after Aunt Bianca.

[[AC: André]]

[[WMG:André Bourgeois will lose his position as mayor.]]
Not only is the man implied to be a SleazyPolitician, the events of "Rogercop" show that he doesn't shy away from abusing his power. Granted, he'll probably get to keep the hotel, but it will cause Chloé to lose the connections that let her get away with so many offences. Depending on how much he's found out to have embezzled, he might lose even the hotel. Either way, it'll probably make him vulnerable to akumatization.
* Confirmed as of Collusion.

[[WMG: The Mayor will remarry.]]
Chloé will be so upset that her [[WickedStepmother "wicked"]] stepmother refuses to spoil her.

[[WMG: André doesn't actually love Chloé; he just finds her to be a convenient prop to make himself look good.]]
He just throws money at Chloé to make her shut up and because she doesn't know any better, she assumes this is love. This could come out with a "truth teller" akuma that makes people blurt out truths about their darkest secrets; Chloé is devastated when she finds out she's nothing but a cheap political tactic and ironically finds her relationship with her classmates going better since all of them [[SympathyForTheDevil feel sorry for her]] [[EveryoneHasStandards since not even a jerk like Chloé deserves to have a parent who just uses her for his own benefit]].

Jossed in Malediktator since her leaving the city is enough to get him akumatized

[[WMG:André is his wife's LoveMartyr.]]
Continuing the themes of theories about GenerationXerox in Adrien's parents, Chloé's mother [[spoiler: Audrey]] is her ShadowArchetype, and André is her Sabrina: An underling who did everything [[spoiler: Audrey]] wanted of him, no matter how unethical, only hoping for much more than friendship in return. [[spoiler: Audrey]] eventually deemed André good enough to marry and have Chloé with after he became successful with his hotel and political career, but would still leave them to pursue her own interests. While Chloé was spoiled and sheltered to fill the void, André got by for years with the belief that [[spoiler: Audrey]] would come running back if he stayed rich and faithful to her. When [[spoiler: Audrey]] reappears, Chloé will realize that her mother is a selfish woman who isn't worth trying to please, and so will her father.

[[WMG: André has a sister]]
This hypothetical sister would be Arlette, Nadja's boss from "Prime Queen". Arlette does appear to be a producer, if not the owner of the TV studio as well, since she is the one calling all the shots in the TV studio. In "Gorizilla", we learn that an "A. Bourgeois" [[spoiler: is a producer and produced a movie Adrien's mother, Emilie, was in]].

[[AC: Audrey]]

[[WMG: Audrey is Adrien's mother]]
Just nobody was told this. Neither of them are anywhere to be seen, after all.
* I heard WordOfGod jossed this a while ago.
** That would make Chloé's constant hitting on Adrien highly inappropriate for a kid's show.
** Also, this would require her to have been married to André Bourgeois and Gabriel Agreste at the same time, since Chloé and Adrien are the same age.

[[WMG: Alternately Audrey is the sister of Adrien's mother, Emilie]]
* No, by "WordOfGod jossed this a while ago", they meant "Adrien and Chloé are not related".
** That would make Chloé's constant hitting on Adrien highly inappropriate for a kid's show.

[[WMG: There's a connection between Chloé's and Adrien's missing mother's.]]
* We learn in "Gorizilla" that Adrien's mother was in a film produced by an A. Bourgeois. This could mean whatever caused Chloé's mother leaving might have involved Adrien's mother as well.

[[WMG: Audrey wants custody of Chloé for some reason.]]
This is why Mayor Bourgeois bends to all of her demands; he doesn't want to lose his precious daughter. It's also possible that Audrey only wants her for superficial reasons and doesn't actually love her like a mother should, and André doesn't want his daughter to suffer from that.

[[WMG: Audrey has some connection to the Miraculouses.]]
* At the end of "Feast", we see Audrey, Tomoe Tsurugi, and Gabriel and Nathalie reacting to the news of the temple's reappearance. While Gabriel and Nathalie have an obvious reason to be interested, Audrey doesn't seem to be the kind of person who'd be interested in a Tibetan temple reappearing... unless she was interested in what's ''in'' the temple.

[[WMG: Amber bourgeois]]
Similar to Félix, who was supposed to never appear in the series, Amber will be a canon character. She will also be the new Bee Miraculous´s holder. She could be:
* Chloé's cousin; maybe Arlette is her mother.
* Chloé's older sister. She maybe she lived in New York with their mother, or being older and more independent, she has been traveling.

[[WMG: Audrey is the mother of Jane and Stacy from WesternAnimation/GhostForce]]
Same universe, similar blond hair and similar enough appearances. Their green eyes would come from their father.
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[[folder: Hawk Moth's Wish]]

[[WMG:Hawk Moth's wish is to erase Adrien's death (see the "Adrien is a sentimonster" theory a few folders down).]]
* Going off the "Adrien is a sentimonster ReplacementGoldfish for the late real Adrien" theory a bit further down, Gabriel might wish to prevent his son's death. Assuming any of it is true, if the real Adrien never died, then Emilie would never have needed to create the sentimonster of him, and thus would not have gone into her coma. Therefore, Gabriel would never have become Hawk Moth or akumatized innocent people ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg or Nathalie and Lila]]), because his reason to do so would not have come to pass.

[[WMG:Hawk Moth plans to sacrifice Lila]]
Since the Miraculous wish will require an EquivalentExchange, it stands to reason that restoring Emilie will require sacrificing someone else's life. Adrien is out of the question - aside from Gabriel's occasionally [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes showing concern for him]], Emilie would likely not be happy if Gabriel sacrificed their son to bring her back. Nathalie is probably safe for the same reasons. On the other hand, Gabriel has shown contempt towards Lila (in "Onichan", before he decided to recruit her), and he might decided that she has [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlived her usefulness]] (especially since her abhorrent behavior is likely to become a liability down the line, so there's no sense in keeping her around longer than he has to).

[[WMG:Hawk Moth has ''already'' made his wish, possibly several times, and nobody knows it including him]]
In "Ephemeral", the kwamis say "[[OhNoNotAgain not again!]]" when they see him starting to make his wish. There are several possible explanations for this, but here's one of them. It's known that making a wish requires [[EquivalentExchange sacrificing something of equal value to what you gain]]. It's also revealed in "Ephemeral" that making a wish that changes the past (or possibly any wish, it's not made quite clear) involves erasing the universe and rebuilding it to fit the wisher's desires. It's often theorized that if Gabriel were to wish Emilie back to life, Adrien would fall into a coma in her place. If that did happen, what would he do next? Do you think he would just let his son remain near-dead, or would he try to wish ''him'' back too? And if the universe was rewritten, well, would he even ''know'' that the wish is the reason Adrien is lost? How many times might Hawk Moth have traded one family member for the other, never knowing the futility of his actions? His family will never be whole, and he will never realize it.

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[[folder: Nino Lahiffe]]
[[WMG: Nino has AbusiveParents]]
Forgive me if I sound like I'm overanalyzing a bit, but this is something I noticed when I watched The Bubbler. Nino is so quick and ready to judge every parent in Paris based on the actions of one adult, and it seems so petty. But what if it isn't? What if Nino was abused by his own parents? It explains why he acts extremely out of character when Gabriel shuts him out. His anger could be interpreted as a BigBrotherInstinct towards Adrien trying to protect him (and let's be honest here, Gabe is abusive). Nino also acts incredibly mature for his age (hey, those "Dad Nino" memes aren't for nothing) at least when you compare it to the other kids of his class.

[[WMG: Nino will have a special, deep hatred for [[AlphaBitch Lila]] [[AttentionWhore Rossi]]]]
It makes sense. Since Alya is his girlfriend and Lila is Alya's EvilCounterpart and complete opposite, it would be fine and fitting for Lila to be his most hated person ever.
* Makes sense from another angle, too - promo material for Season 2 has indicated that Lila will try to manipulate Adrien to keep him all to herself. Nino took it personally when Gabriel denied Adrien a party, so someone deliberately harming his bestie? Yeah, Lila's ''definitely'' going to end up on Nino's shitlist.
** {{Jossed}}. In "Oni-Chan", Nino talks to Lila about howher mother is attending a fancy gala and she wants to attend but she needs to be caught up on her schoolwork. Nino kindly offers her that he'll tell Adrien a good word about her to help her catch up.
** However, in "Miraculer", Lila tells Gabriel Agreste that "Adrien could do much better than Nino". Despite Nino's kindness to her, this just shows how ungrateful of a person Lila is.

[[WMG:Adrien will tell Nino he's Cat Noir.]]
For one thing Marinette has already told Alya she's Ladybug and Nino told Adrien he and Aliya are Rena Rouge and Carapace, making him pretty annoyed that they get to know each others identities while Ladybug strictly forces him to secrecy. This will eat away at him until he breaks down and tells Nino he's Cat Noir. Nino will probably tell Alya this putting her in the very uncomfortable position of knowing both Marinnete and Adrien's secret identities and [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle Two Person Love Square]] but not being able to tell them.
** Since season 5, Adrien and Marinette are a loving couple in their civilian identities, so there's no more Two Person Love Square anymore. Their secret identities are now not an obstacle in their relationship. If anything, Alya knowing both itentities would make her a weak link, the one who could spill the beans
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[[folder:Season 5 Theories (SEASON 4 SPOILERS UNMARKED!!!)]]

[[folder:Season 6 Theories (SEASON 5 SPOILERS UNMARKED!!!)]]

[[folder: Kagami Tsurugi and Luka Couffaine]]
[[AC: Kagami]]

[[AC: Luka]]

[[folder: Bourgeois Family]]
[[WMG:The Bourgeois are related to the [[WesternAnimation/BeverlyHillsTeens Duprees]]]]
It's obvious Chloé takes after Aunt Bianca.

[[WMG: Félix and Kagami won't last]] Félix may seem like he's fighting for his and Adrien's freedom now. But eventually his own desire and goals will become more important and he will turn into a full out villain. This will of course leave Kagami dumped and heartbroken.

[[WMG: Ladybug will NOT be the one who ultimately takes down Butterfly!Lila. It will instead be Cat Noir.]]

To be frank, the last few episodes of season five were not good to Adrien. He spent the entire final battle locked in a room while his partner/girlfriend basically soloed an army ''and'' Monarch with both his and her own Miraculouses. Even worse, he was tricked into believing that his father (who was both an emotionally AbusiveParent and the BigBad up to this point) was a (''urk'') [[FakeUltimateHero hero who sacrificed himself to help stop Monarch.]] While Marinette may have encouraged him to [[BeYourself be himself]], he may still feel the need to live up to his father's "legacy". Also, it wouldn't be unusual if he blamed himself for his father's death simply because he wasn't there to help. All of this would cause him to reflect on his performance as a superhero, and find himself lacking compared to Ladybug who kept pulling ahead more and more while Chat Noir remained where he was at the start. Bug Noir might even start to seem symbolic of how lopsided their "partnership" has become. Ultimately, he decides that it is time to step up and train to catch up with his Lady so he can be a better partner for her.

[[WMG: Chat Noir will discover the truth about Gabriel and confront Ladybug over it, but this will ''not'' lead to a falling out between them.]]

Against all odds, Adrien manages to discover that his father was Monarch as early as the middle of the season. He then confronts Ladybug as Chat Noir, fully expecting her to be angry with him for "sticking his nose where it didn't belong". To his shock and surprise however, she instead [[AintTooProudtoBeg begs]] him not to tell anyone, especially "Adrien". When Chat insists that the people of Paris deserve to know the truth, angrily pointing out that she has effectively convinced everyone to honor a '''''terrorist''''', Ladybug actually breaks down in tears and admits that she ''knows'' it isn't right or fair, but she wanted to give Adrien at least ''some'' positive memories of his father and spare him from potentially suffering a SinsOfOurFathers scenario. Realizing that Ladybug is carrying this burden for his sake, Chat calms down and assures her that it will remain a secret between the two of them. Unfortunately, this means that now he has to pretend that he still idolizes his father despite [[BrokenPedestal knowning him to be the monster he truly was.]]
* Eventually, possibly at the end of the season, Chat Noir convinces Ladybug that they have to come clean, regardless of the consequences to themselves. However, this is complicated by the presence of the new Butterfly villain, who could use the inevitable fallout to cause yet another mass Akumatization should she have figured out Hawk Moth's "Catalyst" trick by that point. There's also the fact that the reveal would absolutely '''''destroy''''' Ladybug's reputation, and by extension Chat Noir's, making it much harder for them to fight Akuma since they would no longer have the absolute trust and support of Paris. Thus, they agree to only reveal the truth after the Butterfly Miraculous is finally retrieved, creating an ominous atmosphere that would persist throughout the next season.

[[WMG: Ladybug will NOT be the one who ultimately takes down Butterfly!Lila. It will instead be Chat Noir.]]

[[WMG: Adrian will tell Nino he's Cat Noir.]]
For one thing Marinette has already told Alya she's Ladybug and Nino told Adrian he and Aliya are Rena Rouge and Carapace, making him pretty annoyed that they get to know each others identities while Ladybug strictly forces him to secrecy. This will eat away at him until he breaks down and tells Nino he's Cat Noir. Nino will probably tell Alya this putting her in the very uncomfortable position of knowing both Marinnete and Adrian's secret identities and [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle Two Person Love Square]] but not being able to tell them.
** Since season 5, Adrian and Marinette are a loving couple in their civillian identities, so there's no more Two Person Love Square anymore. Their secret identities are now not an obstacle in their relationship. If anything, Alya knowing both itentities would make her a weak link, the one who could spill the beans

Some of the concept art, such as [[https://miraculousladybug.fandom.com/wiki/File:Ladybug_%26_Cat_Noir_Awakening.png the one of Cat Noir giving Ladybug a rose]], and [[https://miraculousladybug.fandom.com/wiki/File:Ladybug_%26_Cat_Noir_Awakening_-_Concept_art_10.png the one of Paris in chaos as Hawk Moth's symbol lights up the sky]] were both scenes that were in the Anime PV. While Marinette and Adrian's personalities will be more in-line with the final product, it's possible that this movie will follow the original plot and the DarkerAndEdgier tone of the Anime PV.

Against all odds, Adrien manages to discover that his father was Monarch as early as the middle of the season. He then confronts Ladybug as Chat Noir, fully expecting her to be angry with him for "sticking his nose where it didn't belong". To his shock and surprise however, she instead [[AintTooProudtoBeg ''begs'']] him not to tell anyone, especially "Adrien". When Chat insists that the people of Paris deserve to know the truth, angrily pointing out that she has effectively convinced everyone to honor a '''''terrorist''''', Ladybug actually breaks down in tears and admits that she ''knows'' it isn't right or fair, but she wanted to give Adrien at least ''some'' positive memories of his father and spare him from potentially suffering a SinsOfOurFathers scenario. Realizing that Ladybug is carrying this burden for his sake, Chat calms down and assures her that it will remain a secret between the two of them. Unfortunately, this means that now he has to pretend that he still idolizes his father despite [[BrokenPedestal knowning him to be the monster he truly was.]]

* Eventually, possibly at the end of the season, Chat Noir convinces Ladybug that they have to come clean, regardless of the consequences to themselves. However, this is complicated by the presence of the new Butterfly villain, who could use the inevitable fallout to cause

Against all odds, Adrien manages to discover that his father was Monarch as early as the middle of the season. He then confronts Ladybug as Chat Noir, fully expecting her to be angry with him for "sticking his nose where it didn't belong". To his shock and surprise however, she instead [[AintTooProudtoBeg ''begs'']] him not to tell anyone, especially "Adrien". When Chat insists that the people of Paris deserve to know the truth, angrily pointing out that she has effectively convinced everyone to honor a '''''terrorist''''', Ladybug actually breaks down in tears and admits that she ''knows'' it isn't right or fair, but she wanted to give Adrien at least ''some'' positive memories of his father and spare him from potentially suffering a SinsOfOurFathers scenario. Realizing that Ladybug

Against all odds, Adrien manages to discover that his father was Monarch as early as the middle of the season. He then confronts Ladybug as Chat Noir, fully expecting her to be angry with him for "sticking his nose where it didn't belong". To his shock and surprise however, she instead breaks down and [[''begs'' Ain'tTooProudtoBeg]]

To be frank, the last few episodes of season five were not good to Adrien. He spent the entire final battle locked in a room while his partner/girlfriend basically soloed an army ''and'' Monarch with both his and her own Miraculouses. Even worse, he was tricked into believing that his father (who was both an emotionally AbusiveParent and the BigBad up to this point) was a (''urk'') [[FakeUltimateHero hero who sacrificed himself to help stop Monarch.]] While Marinette may have encouraged him to [[BeYourself be himself]], he may still feel the need to live up to his father's "legacy". Also, it wouldn't be unusual if he blamed himself for his father's death simply because he wasn't there to help.