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To be frank, the last few episodes of season five were not good to Adrien. He spent the entire final battle locked in a room while his partner/girlfriend basically soloed an army ''and'' Monarch with both his and her own Miraculouses. Even worse, he was tricked into believing that his father (who was both an emotionally AbusiveParent and the BigBad up to this point) was a (''urk'') [[FakeUltimateHero hero who sacrificed himself to help stop Monarch.]] While Marinette may have encouraged him to [[BeYourself be himself]], he may still feel the need to live up to his father's "legacy". Also, it wouldn't be unusual if he blamed himself for his father's death simply because he wasn't there to help.
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[[WMG: Lila will take a different approach in her new disguise at school.]]
After she was already exposed for lying in "Confrontation", she doesn't want people to suspect anything, so instead of making up numerous lies to get attention, she would make up a few small ones that don't directly correlate to things she lied about as Lila or sound similar to it.
Speaking of which, I really hope she doesn't go there as Cerise, (that looks way too similar to Lila even with the different skin tone and hair, if it's even her real hair) but as a new disguise. Like the one she used in the Season 5 finale where she has a black wig and glasses on.
After she was already exposed for lying in "Confrontation", she doesn't want people to suspect anything, so instead of making up numerous lies to get attention, she would make up a few small ones that don't directly correlate to things she lied about as Lila or sound similar to it.
Speaking of which, I really hope she doesn't go there as Cerise, (that looks way too similar to Lila even with the different skin tone and hair, if it's even her real hair) but as a new disguise. Like the one she used in the Season 5 finale where she has a black wig and glasses on.
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To go along the Order of the Guardians adapting to modern life and mindsets, they might be more inclined to teach people how to defend themselves from future akumatizations. Su-Han might thus be hired as a PE teacher as well as a supervisor for that class.
To go along the Order of the Guardians adapting to modern life and mindsets, they might be more inclined to teach people how to defend themselves from future akumatizations. Su-Han might thus be hired as a PE teacher as well as a supervisor for that class.
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[[WMG: The circumstances of the previous season's finale will prompt Chat Noir to seek to TakeALevelInBadass.]]
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[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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Compared to Gabriel, Lila is far more secretive, so it makes sense if she doesn't announce herself as the new Butterfly Miraculous holder.
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[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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Compared to Gabriel, Lila is far more secretive, so it makes sense if she doesn't announce herself as the new Butterfly Miraculous holder.
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This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding ruined it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
[[WMG: Lila will not reveal herself to the public like Gabriel did.]]
Compared to Gabriel, Lila is far more secretive, so it makes sense if she doesn't announce herself as the new Butterfly Miraculous holder.
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This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding ruined it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
[[WMG: Lila will not reveal herself to the public like Gabriel did.]]
Compared to Gabriel, Lila is far more secretive, so it makes sense if she doesn't announce herself as the new Butterfly Miraculous holder.
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Compared to Gabriel, Lila is far more secretive, so it makes sense if she doesn't announce herself as the new Butterfly Miraculous holder.
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moved Season 6 theories above Season 5 ones as they will be far more recent and the latter season is over
[[folder:Season 6 Theories (SEASON 5 SPOILERS UNMARKED!!!)]]
[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but let's consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but lets consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but lets consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Chat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Chat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
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This is pretty much a given, but lets consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Chat Cat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes out of spite.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him orChat Cat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could cause their relationship to implode.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or
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[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but lets consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Chat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes. And this would just be the beginning of a big downwards spiral for all of Paris.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Chat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could blow up their relationship.
[[WMG: The season will start off with a HappyEndingOverride.]]
This is pretty much a given, but lets consider the possibilities: while parts of the season five finale [[EsotericHappyEnding marred it for many fans]], there is no denying that things have never been better for all of the characters that matter. This will all change when Lila (or whatever the heck she's calling herself now) makes her move with the Butterfly Miraculous. Now not only do Ladybug and Chat Noir have to deal with a new wave of Akumas, but also an outraged public accusing them of lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the belief that the attacks were finally over. Some people might even get Akumatized over it and target the heroes. And this would just be the beginning of a big downwards spiral for all of Paris.
* To make matters worse, this will lead Adrien to start asking questions about what really happened when his father [[BlatantLies sacrificed himself to defeat Monarch]] like Ladybug said he did. And when she won't give him or Chat Noir any straight answers, he'll start investigating by himself. This will likely cause tension between him and Marinette in both of their respective civilian and superhero identities, and if he ever found out the truth, it could blow up their relationship.
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[[WMG:Like Shadybug and Claw Noir the events of the movie canonically take place in an alternate timeline to the main series.]]
Adrien, and to a lesser extent Marinette's, backstory is notably different. Instead of just being a compressed retelling, it seems to be a largely different universe. Perhaps somewhere down the line there could even be a crossover between universes.
Adrien, and to a lesser extent Marinette's, backstory is notably different. Instead of just being a compressed retelling, it seems to be a largely different universe. Perhaps somewhere down the line there could even be a crossover between universes.
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both s4 and s5 ended already, so this should have gone a long time ago
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[[WMG:If the woman at the end of "Re-creation" is actually Amelie and not Emilie, then Emilie can still be communicated with if Duusu coughs up a Kwatagama.]]
It might be an Emilie who barely knows Adrien (if she never used the Peacock Miraculous after creating him), but it would still be Emilie.
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* Technically {{Jossed}}. He does obtain both toward the end of season 5, but this is not the end of the series, nor technically even the end of that season.
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* Confirmed, sorta, and already happened in season 1. In "Princess Fragance" Marinette and Tikki get separated and Marinette can't trasnform, and in "Rogercop" Plagg gets a bracelet stuck in his head, and while Adrien could technically still transform, Plagg advices agaisnt against this, as the bracelet would go inside the ring too and affect Cat Noir powers
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{{Jossed}} with regard to the year per season. At the end of season 5, Marinette and Adrien are just finishing ninth grade, which they started in season 1.
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* {{Jossed}}. That's not how it plays out.
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