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* The Hylden and the Elder God constitute a BigBadEnsemble- they are not allies, and actually have rival ambitions. The Elder God is not a prisoner; he is a parasite, feasting on the souls of the dead to sate his gluttony. The Hydlen want to annihilate all life in Nosgoth and rule it forverer as immortals, wich would starve him. But the alternative are the vampires, who are themselves immortal and only a slight imporovement in that the need to keep humans and other creatures around as food, thus allowing the Wheel of Fate to turn, but still a trickle of what he could be feasting on if neither vampires nor the Hylden were a factor.
Basically, the Elder God's masterplan is to annihilate all vampires whilst somehow keeping the Hylden at bay, the difficulty being that if all vampires in Nosgoth are destroyed then the pillars go with them and the Hydlen will return. Thus, he arranges for the Hydlen to be set free for the events of ''Blood Omen 2'', but only because he knows they will lose and that he has outplayed them. This is the price he must pay to ultimately kill Kain, even if its a time-hopping Kain, since it means in the distant future there will come a point where Kain vanishes into the past and never returns (because he is killed) and Raziel has slaughtered all of the Clan leaders and scores of their degenerate brood. This gives the humans survivors a chance they have never had- when Kain and Raziel go back in time at the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'', they leave behind a veritable mountain of vampire corpses and the soldiers of the human citadel are about to discover their fight has gotten ''so much'' easier
Basically, consider the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'' a case of TheBadGuyWins- the Elder God got ''exactly'' what he wanted, from his point of view- the vampire menace has been all but eradicated, the Hylden escaped at some point in the past but were defeated, and humans are going to take over the world and keep his belly full for the rest of time.
Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline (since thats the only way he can continue to live without seriiously screwing everything up- he must go back to sometime after he and Raziel fled) to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but that is a story for another day, for another game that will likely, sadly, never be made, but presumably Kain will win.
Basically, the Elder God's masterplan is to annihilate all vampires whilst somehow keeping the Hylden at bay, the difficulty being that if all vampires in Nosgoth are destroyed then the pillars go with them and the Hydlen will return. Thus, he arranges for the Hydlen to be set free for the events of ''Blood Omen 2'', but only because he knows they will lose and that he has outplayed them. This is the price he must pay to ultimately kill Kain, even if its a time-hopping Kain, since it means in the distant future there will come a point where Kain vanishes into the past and never returns (because he is killed) and Raziel has slaughtered all of the Clan leaders and scores of their degenerate brood. This gives the humans survivors a chance they have never had- when Kain and Raziel go back in time at the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'', they leave behind a veritable mountain of vampire corpses and the soldiers of the human citadel are about to discover their fight has gotten ''so much'' easier
Basically, consider the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'' a case of TheBadGuyWins- the Elder God got ''exactly'' what he wanted, from his point of view- the vampire menace has been all but eradicated, the Hylden escaped at some point in the past but were defeated, and humans are going to take over the world and keep his belly full for the rest of time.
Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline (since thats the only way he can continue to live without seriiously screwing everything up- he must go back to sometime after he and Raziel fled) to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but that is a story for another day, for another game that will likely, sadly, never be made, but presumably Kain will win.
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** Basically, the Elder God's masterplan is to annihilate all vampires whilst somehow keeping the Hylden at bay, the difficulty being that if all vampires in Nosgoth are destroyed then the pillars go with them and the Hydlen will return. Thus, he arranges for the Hydlen to be set free for the events of ''Blood Omen 2'', but only because he knows they will lose and that he has outplayed them. This is the price he must pay to ultimately kill Kain, even if its a time-hopping Kain, since it means in the distant future there will come a point where Kain vanishes into the past and never returns (because he is killed) and Raziel has slaughtered all of the Clan leaders and scores of their degenerate brood. This gives the humans survivors a chance they have never had- when Kain and Raziel go back in time at the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'', they leave behind a veritable mountain of vampire corpses and the soldiers of the human citadel are about to discover their fight has gotten ''so much'' easier
** Basically, consider the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'' a case of TheBadGuyWins- the Elder God got ''exactly'' what he wanted, from his point of view- the vampire menace has been all but eradicated, the Hylden escaped at some point in the past but were defeated, and humans are going to take over the world and keep his belly full for the rest of time.
** Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline (since thats the only way he can continue to live without seriiously screwing everything up- he must go back to sometime after he and Raziel fled) to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but that is a story for another day, for another game that will likely, sadly, never be made, but presumably Kain will
** And somewhere in the middle of all of this, the BadFuture seen in ''Soul Reaver 2'' occurs. It could well be that ''this'' is what the Elder God has set up to be waiting for Kain, or even that Kain brought this about himself- once he fled into the past, the Guardian of Balance had left the world, and too few humans and no true vampires were left in Nosgoth (that had not been corrupted) so he actually destroyed the Pillars by going into Nosgoth's past, and the demons came into the world, which means that Moebius and the Elder God taunting Raziel about causing this by killing Kain was just that- taunting him. The fact that Kain is in that timeline to speak with Raziel means that he presumably ''knew'' that this would happen, but thought it was worth it. So I guess in ''Blood Omen 3'' (which will never happen) Kain returns to the future to kick demonic ass and conquer the world for a third time.
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** If that was true then he would not have put up a fight, nor would he have given Raziel attitude. He took Kain telling him that Raziel would kill him as "he will ''try'' to", not literally, and Kain was being a bit of a dick doing that, prbably just telling him in order to pass the time. As for the "saved us" bit, all vampires considered humans to be inferior and the Sarafan to be bastards- even Raziel thought the same, until he found out he was one. Rahab is just less of a hypocrite in that regard; as far as he is considered, Kain "showed him the light" and made him a god- and ''that'' is how he "saved" him. The others did not rant about how great they were (Zephon and Dumah did, but Melchiah was revolted by what he had become), and Rahab ''did'' talk about how he was going to kill Raziel, ''and'' about how he was greater than humans with his "saved us" bit. He wasn't any more or less rational than the others- he was just a fanatic, same as he always was, now just vampiric rather than Sarafan.
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Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but
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Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline (since thats the only way he can continue to live without seriiously screwing everything up- he must go back to sometime after he and Raziel fled) to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but
but that is a story for another day, for another game that will likely, sadly, never be made, but presumably Kain will win.
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* The Hylden and the Elder God constitute a BigBadEnsemble- they are not allies, and actually have rival ambitions. The Elder God is not a prisoner; he is a parasite, feasting on the souls of the dead to sate his gluttony. The Hydlen want to annihilate all life in Nosgoth and rule it forverer as immortals, wich would starve him. But the alternative are the vampires, who are themselves immortal and only a slight imporovement in that the need to keep humans and other creatures around as food, thus allowing the Wheel of Fate to turn, but still a trickle of what he could be feasting on if neither vampires nor the Hylden were a factor.
Basically, the Elder God's masterplan is to annihilate all vampires whilst somehow keeping the Hylden at bay, the difficulty being that if all vampires in Nosgoth are destroyed then the pillars go with them and the Hydlen will return. Thus, he arranges for the Hydlen to be set free for the events of ''Blood Omen 2'', but only because he knows they will lose and that he has outplayed them. This is the price he must pay to ultimately kill Kain, even if its a time-hopping Kain, since it means in the distant future there will come a point where Kain vanishes into the past and never returns (because he is killed) and Raziel has slaughtered all of the Clan leaders and scores of their degenerate brood. This gives the humans survivors a chance they have never had- when Kain and Raziel go back in time at the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'', they leave behind a veritable mountain of vampire corpses and the soldiers of the human citadel are about to discover their fight has gotten ''so much'' easier
Basically, consider the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'' a case of TheBadGuyWins- the Elder God got ''exactly'' what he wanted, from his point of view- the vampire menace has been all but eradicated, the Hylden escaped at some point in the past but were defeated, and humans are going to take over the world and keep his belly full for the rest of time.
Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but
Basically, the Elder God's masterplan is to annihilate all vampires whilst somehow keeping the Hylden at bay, the difficulty being that if all vampires in Nosgoth are destroyed then the pillars go with them and the Hydlen will return. Thus, he arranges for the Hydlen to be set free for the events of ''Blood Omen 2'', but only because he knows they will lose and that he has outplayed them. This is the price he must pay to ultimately kill Kain, even if its a time-hopping Kain, since it means in the distant future there will come a point where Kain vanishes into the past and never returns (because he is killed) and Raziel has slaughtered all of the Clan leaders and scores of their degenerate brood. This gives the humans survivors a chance they have never had- when Kain and Raziel go back in time at the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'', they leave behind a veritable mountain of vampire corpses and the soldiers of the human citadel are about to discover their fight has gotten ''so much'' easier
Basically, consider the end of ''Soul Reaver 1'' a case of TheBadGuyWins- the Elder God got ''exactly'' what he wanted, from his point of view- the vampire menace has been all but eradicated, the Hylden escaped at some point in the past but were defeated, and humans are going to take over the world and keep his belly full for the rest of time.
Except, of course, for the tiny problem that Kain is still alive, and presumably returns to his old timeline to create some ''proper'' vampires, now that he has been cured of Nupraptors' madness. That is also why the Elder God is still alive after the events of ''Defiance''- his plan was foiled, but he still needed to be there for the events of ''Soul Reaver'' to play out, since "History Abhors A Paradox" and only minor changes to the timeline have been made (at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', the changes to the timeline only meant that Kain had to go through ''Blood Omen 2'' before the events of ''SR 1'' played out). The Elder God of ''SR 1'' might have some plan to murder Kain if and when he returns, knowing now that the plan failed thanks to new memories, but
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Now, though, Kain is back in the past, with the purified Soul Reaver. It's likely he'll seek out his past self, and [[Main/XanatosGambit subtly guide]] the past version of himself to find the new Guardians, make them vampires, and take on the Hylden in one last battle.
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Now, though, Kain is back in the past, with the purified Soul Reaver. It's likely he'll seek out his past self, and [[Main/XanatosGambit subtly guide]] guide the past version of himself to find the new Guardians, make them vampires, and take on the Hylden in one last battle.
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** Actually it summons the souls of all Guardians of Balance. Scion of Balance is a different entity. Kain is both. Otherwise, it's a cool theory.
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*** Correct. When Kain saves Raziel at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2'', Raziel says he can see Kain react to new memories being formed as his own past is altered (presumably Kain has RippleEffectProofMemory). These memories are the events of ''Blood Omen 2'', which were set into motion by Raziel surviving the Reaver's attempt to draw him in, and going on to resurrect Janos Audron. The events of the first ''Blood Omen'' remain unaffected. Presumably, the original timeline and its StableTimeLoop had Kain conquer Nosgoth without meeting Janos and fighting the Hylden Lord, whereas the new timeline with its new StableTimeLoop involves everything Kain does in ''Blood Omen 2''. The end result of Kain conquering Nosgoth and setting up his vampire empire remain unaffected, presumably because changing that would involve too much of a reshuffle, or even a paradox.
*** Agreed, but the original point of this thread still stands; Kain must place his new purified Soul Reaver where his younger self finds it in order to complete the new StableTimeLoop. As a time-traveller, he can use it for an unknown amount of time, )and hopefully use it to kick the Elder God's ass along the way,) as long as the Soul Reaver eventually finds its way to his younger self. It is unlikely that this version of the Soul Reaver being purified will affect the timeline all that much: it remains an extremely powerful soul-eating sword, and if Raziel stays sane he will know what he must do to ensure the timeline survives, and act accordingly, and if he goes mad anyway then the personal timeline of the Soul Reaver and the Wraith Blade continues as it always has/will.
*** Agreed, but the original point of this thread still stands; Kain must place his new purified Soul Reaver where his younger self finds it in order to complete the new StableTimeLoop. As a time-traveller, he can use it for an unknown amount of time, )and hopefully use it to kick the Elder God's ass along the way,) as long as the Soul Reaver eventually finds its way to his younger self. It is unlikely that this version of the Soul Reaver being purified will affect the timeline all that much: it remains an extremely powerful soul-eating sword, and if Raziel stays sane he will know what he must do to ensure the timeline survives, and act accordingly, and if he goes mad anyway then the personal timeline of the Soul Reaver and the Wraith Blade continues as it always has/will.
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* My argument for Kain's survival and Hennig's comment goes as follows:
** 1. Ariel states that the Spirit Forge summons the souls of ''all'' Scions of Balance to itself for the purification ritual.
** 2. Kain is the Scion of Balance, and after escaping the demon dimension he says he feels "compelled" to return to the Spirit Forge, confirming that he is drawn to it.
** 3. Janos stated that the curse of vampirism "imprisons our souls in this flesh", meaning that the only way Kain's soul could reach the Forge was if his body brought it there, thus reanimating his body.
** 4. By the time he completes the purification ritual at the Forge (thus meaning that the Forge has accomplished its purpose and might let him drop dead again), Raziel has purified him and healed the gaping hole in his chest, meaning that his body can continue to be "alive" even without the Forge forcing him to reanimate.
** 1. Ariel states that the Spirit Forge summons the souls of ''all'' Scions of Balance to itself for the purification ritual.
** 2. Kain is the Scion of Balance, and after escaping the demon dimension he says he feels "compelled" to return to the Spirit Forge, confirming that he is drawn to it.
** 3. Janos stated that the curse of vampirism "imprisons our souls in this flesh", meaning that the only way Kain's soul could reach the Forge was if his body brought it there, thus reanimating his body.
** 4. By the time he completes the purification ritual at the Forge (thus meaning that the Forge has accomplished its purpose and might let him drop dead again), Raziel has purified him and healed the gaping hole in his chest, meaning that his body can continue to be "alive" even without the Forge forcing him to reanimate.
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*** Actually that explain why EVERYONE wants The Soul Reaver (again). Not only you can place it in the way of Raziel to introduce a paradox to change history but ALSO The Soul Reaver is powerful enough to overkill anything, even if your body regenerates its wounds you soul will always be trapped forever in The Soul Reaver to slowly being devourer or become deranged by Time Abyss
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** Kain's skin is more yellow-ish than green.
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[[WMG: After confrontation at Avernus Kain possesses free will]]
Neither The Elder God nor Moebius knew he will be back because he is now free from Wheel of Fate.
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** It's actually fairly likely that the original adventure goes as normal, all of the elements in the games leave Kain's path for the first title clear. It's what comes after that game that is being twisted.
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** That is correct until the events of Defiance. Due to Raziel's actions Kain's soul has been purified which is what allows him to see the Elder God. now that he is freed from the corruption of the pillars it should now be possible for new Guardians to be chosen, tightening the lock on the prison of the Hylden once that happens.
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*** Honestly they don't even have to go that far. By reusing the ending of Defiance they could simply have Kain hunt down the wounded Elder God and handle him for good before moving on to deal with the Hylden and aiding the new Pillar Guardians.
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**** The important thing to consider is that his prison may not be eternal in this timeline. The reason the Reaver needed to be kept intact in Kain's timeline is that he was waiting for his chance to flip the coin. Now though he should be able to find a way to free Raziel from the blade after dealing with the Hylden.
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When Raziel accepts his destiny and gets absorbed into the Reaver, where do you think other six souls go? There are another Raziel's soul (wraith-blade) and 5 of another lieutenants. Do they go into Reaver? No. They, now purified, rejoin Kain's soul, completing and healing it (don't forget that Kain had to split his own soul to resurrect lieutenants).
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When Raziel accepts his destiny and gets absorbed into the Reaver, where do you think other six souls go? There are another Raziel's soul (wraith-blade) and 5 of another lieutenants. Do they go into Reaver? No. They, now purified, rejoin Kain's soul, completing and healing it (don't forget that Kain had to split his own soul to resurrect lieutenants).
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* To address the first part of this, I thought I read somewhere that replacement guardians couldn't be born while Kain lived because of Nupraptor's corruption still being within Kain, the new Guardian of Balance. The only way to get new (human) guardians was for Kain to sacrifice himself at the end of Blood Omen 1.
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* To address the first part of this, I thought I read somewhere that replacement guardians couldn't be born while Kain lived because of Nupraptor's corruption still being within Kain, the new Guardian of Balance. The only way to get new (human) guardians was for Kain to sacrifice himself at the end of Blood Omen 1.
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* To address the first part of this, I thought I read somewhere that replacement guardians couldn't be born while Kain lived because of Nupraptor's corruption still being within Kain, the new Guardian of Balance. The only way to get new (human) guardians was for Kain to sacrifice himself at the end of Blood Omen 1.
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** They could always handwave the EG's voice change by saying something happened to him after he buried himself under the citadel.
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* If you chose to have Kain sacrifice himself at the end of Blood Omen 1, the land is wooded and fertile in that ending. I don't think the Hylden had anything to do with that.
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*** Raziel went willingly because he knew he couldn't avoid this part of his fate, and though Kain had postponed it, Raziel knew it would happen regardless of whether he was willing or not. The reason why he was trying to avoid it was because he didn't want to become the deranged soul within the sword. The reason why he let the sword consume him was to show Kain who the real enemy was, and the only way to do that was to transfer the purified Reaver to Kain through healing him.
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* The Time Streaming Device is his Tardis. Also, [[TheNthDoctor he dies at least thrice on-screen]] before [[DeaderThanDead having his soul consumed]].
* The Time Streaming Device is his Tardis. Also, [[TheNthDoctor he dies at least thrice on-screen]] before [[DeaderThanDead having his soul consumed]].
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[[WMG: Kain and lieutenants' souls]]
When Raziel accepts his destiny and gets absorbed into the Reaver, where do you think other six souls go? There are another Raziel's soul (wraith-blade) and 5 of another lieutenants. Do they go into Reaver? No. They, now purified, rejoin Kain's soul, completing and healing it (don't forget that Kain had to split his own soul to resurrect lieutenants).
[[WMG: In LoK6 Kain teams up with Hylden against Elder God]]
Enemy mine, huh?
When Raziel accepts his destiny and gets absorbed into the Reaver, where do you think other six souls go? There are another Raziel's soul (wraith-blade) and 5 of another lieutenants. Do they go into Reaver? No. They, now purified, rejoin Kain's soul, completing and healing it (don't forget that Kain had to split his own soul to resurrect lieutenants).
[[WMG: In LoK6 Kain teams up with Hylden against Elder God]]
Enemy mine, huh?
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**** True, the EG isn't dead. Having said that, most info relating to Dark Prophecy suggests that the hylden would have been the main focus of the game.
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**** The Elder God is most definitely not dead.
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*** The Elder God is not dead.
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If I remember correctly, we see four characters with ProphetEyes: Mortanius, oldest Turel(who seems to have bad eyesight, if any), Janos(who has colored irises until he's possessed), and at least since ''Soul Reaver 2'', Moebius...
If I remember correctly, we see four characters with ProphetEyes: Mortanius, oldest Turel(who seems to have bad eyesight, if any), Janos(who has colored irises until he's possessed), and at least since ''Soul Reaver 2'', Moebius...
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[[WMG: The pillars are the REAL chess masters]]
After all, they choose the guardians. Maybe they are much more intelligent than they seem, and have outgrown their builders, thus identifying the Elder God as the worse threat to Nosgoth while the vampires still worshiped him in ignorance. Although they are limited in what they can do, the combination of all the successes and mistakes in each guardian's efforts will lead to the Elder God's defeat.
After all, they choose the guardians. Maybe they are much more intelligent than they seem, and have outgrown their builders, thus identifying the Elder God as the worse threat to Nosgoth while the vampires still worshiped him in ignorance. Although they are limited in what they can do, the combination of all the successes and mistakes in each guardian's efforts will lead to the Elder God's defeat.
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* The Wraith Blade is trying to free itself from Raziel by completing the loop.
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** Another way to look at it: Kain is a 1500 year old vampire made from magic instead of being sired; even if he wasn't the Scion of Balance, he doesn't ''need'' a heart to survive.
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[[WMG: How Raziel's soul was captured by a BLOOD drinking blade.]]
Think about it for a second. The Reaver was forged as a vampiric blade to sustain their champion, and it is a BLOOD drinking blade. The twinned soul of Raziel attached to his arm as a wraith blade has nothing to do with his entrapment despite being visibly entwined with the physical Reaver at the time Raziel is stabbed. The reason Raziel's soul was trapped? In Soul Reaver 2, his body is still a PHYSICAL manifestation of his spirit's undying will...his blood IS his soul. The Wraith Blade was actually trying to fight against the Reaver, but the hunger of the Wraith Blade only made the Reaver stronger in the end. The Wraith Blade was trying to SAVE Raziel by wrapping around the Reaver in an attempt to mimic the events of SR 1 when Kane shattered the Soul Reaver on Raziel's back. Throughout the game the Wraith Blade is parasitic rather than symbiotic, but even a parasite does not try to kill its host consciously. Furthermore, we can infer that the Wraith Blade has been slowly awakening further throughout the game, and as the event was transpiring, it suddenly remembered what was about to happen, which is why it TRIED to save Raziel by overlapping with the Reaver, hoping to create a paradox effect.
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*** Is he? He was damaged by the Soul Reaver, certainly, but the collapsing citadel wouldn't have done any damage to him, and he can manifest in many places.
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** The Elder God's dead. They don't need Jay anymore, as much as it pains this troper to say it.
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*** The Elder God's dead.
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[[WMG:Kain's OhCrap moment in the Soul Reaver 2 ending wasn't about Blood Omen 2.]]
He got off easy that time. So, the Hylden actually invade Nosgoth instead of rogue demons seen in Soul Reaver 2. They end up just as dead, and Raziel and his kin are still raised. But Kain looked in the time windows to see the possible futures before raising Raziel. Now, with the timeline altered so radically, he saw that the Hylden would return in force after the events of Soul Reaver 1. What he couldn't see was that he himself would probably facilitate their return so that they would join him in the battle against the Elder God. [[ArcWords "The Pillars are the lock, and the Reaver is the key."]] Now that the Reaver's true destiny is restored, it will be used.
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[[WMG:Moebius is a TimeLord.]]
* The Time Streaming Device is his Tardis. Also, [[TheNthDoctor he dies at least thrice on-screen]] before [[DeaderThanDead having his soul consumed]].
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** I think the idea was that Raziel's madness doesn't have a mystical cause, it's just wrought on by never-ending solitary confinement over thousands of years. The Elder God specificially says that he intends to ''trap'' Kain in the Citadel so he can share this fate with Raziel, after all.
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** I think the idea was that Raziel's madness doesn't have a mystical cause, it's just wrought brought on by never-ending solitary confinement over thousands of years. The Elder God specificially says that he intends to ''trap'' Kain in the Citadel so he can share this fate with Raziel, after all.
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** The Hylden aren't the enemy, though. The Elder God is.
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[[WMG:Kain is [[{{Gorillaz}} Murdoc Niccals']] grandfather.]]
*Green skin, MagnificentBastard overtones? Good stuff.
