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[[WMG:Christopher Eclair eventually comes back to Japan to try and recruit Kisara, and helps her improving her kicks]]
Savate is the indirect ancestor of Taekwondo (it was strongly influenced by Shotokan Karate, that itself had taken middle and high kicks and a few training methods from Savate), and Kisara's use of boots brings her kicks closer to Savate's than Taekwondo. If Christopher ever sees a video of her he'll try and poach her... And no matter her reply he'd help her just because.
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** Furthermore, on the topic of [[spoiler:Saori Shirahama]]. She's content to be a housewife, but possessing large breasts in a [[WorldOfBuxom World of]] [[BoobsOfSteel Steel]] [[WorldOfBuxom Buxom]], and yet the story has put more emphasis on [[spoiler:Kenichi's father]] and his CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass qualities. My theory: She retired from the world of martial arts or whatever wild past she had and settled down. She didn't keep in touch with Shio, so that's why Sakaki doesn't recognize [[spoiler:Kenichi's father as a brother in law, nor Kenichi as a nephew]]. Meanwhile Kenichi, even if he does know [[spoiler:his mother's maiden name]], has simply had no reason to think about it and put two and two together. [[spoiler:Saori, on the other hand]], is perfectly aware of this and it's why she has supported [[spoiler:Kenichi's training at Ryozanpaku]].

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** Furthermore, on the topic of [[spoiler:Saori Shirahama]]. She's content to be a housewife, but possessing large breasts in a [[WorldOfBuxom World of]] [[BoobsOfSteel Steel]] [[WorldOfBuxom Buxom]], WorldOfBuxom, and yet the story has put more emphasis on [[spoiler:Kenichi's father]] and his CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass qualities. My theory: She retired from the world of martial arts or whatever wild past she had and settled down. She didn't keep in touch with Shio, so that's why Sakaki doesn't recognize [[spoiler:Kenichi's father as a brother in law, nor Kenichi as a nephew]]. Meanwhile Kenichi, even if he does know [[spoiler:his mother's maiden name]], has simply had no reason to think about it and put two and two together. [[spoiler:Saori, on the other hand]], is perfectly aware of this and it's why she has supported [[spoiler:Kenichi's training at Ryozanpaku]].
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As shown in a flashback, she fought alongside the Elder at one time during their youth, which means she was one of the good guys. Her current pushing of the Eternal Setting Sun plan [[spoiler:as the series' GreaterScopeVillain]] is because she saw or experienced ''something'' that resulted in her being MaddenedIntoMisanthropy, to the point that she decided on the KillEmAll route to either take revenge (if it was something personal that happened to her) or to [[WellIntentionedExtremist right what she saw as a grievous wrong]].

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As shown in a flashback, she fought alongside the Elder at one time during their youth, which means she was one of the good guys. Her current pushing of the Eternal Setting Sun plan [[spoiler:as the series' GreaterScopeVillain]] is because she saw or experienced ''something'' that resulted in her being MaddenedIntoMisanthropy, to the point that she decided on the KillEmAll kill-them-all route to either take revenge (if it was something personal that happened to her) or to [[WellIntentionedExtremist right what she saw as a grievous wrong]].

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[[WMG:Berserker, Freya, Loki and Thor all had their own gangs before being recruited by Odin to form Ragnarok]]
A flashback has the Valkyries fight another gang by themselves, Berserker used to get in too many street fights to not get eventually stabbed in the back if he didn't have a gang to guard his back, and both Loki and Thor have their own sub-gangs. It's possible they all had their own gangs and were recruited by Odin with the promise of training under Ogata if they accepted and the threat of crushing them if they didn't join, and it would explain how Ragnarok apparently became the number one gang in the area in a short time if he was the union of multiple gangs.
* In addition, Berserker's gang was the Snakes from ''Tatakae! Ryouzanpaku Shijou Saikyou no Deshi'' (the original version of the story, in which Berserker did lead a gang with that name), and Loki's was the ''original'' Ragnarok that tried to rival the Snakes but just couldn't compete (as in the original version, minus Loki). Odin first forcibly took over Ragnarok and then proceeded to do what Loki couldn't do by absorbing the Snakes in the gang, fueling Loki's resentment over being shown up so easily.
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* Hell, every other named character is still around and he was described quite pointedly as a sheer genius. It's why he, unlike the other [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters nine hundred thousand named characters so far]], hasn't shown up again since.

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* Hell, every other named character is still around and he was described quite pointedly as a sheer genius. It's why he, unlike the other [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters nine hundred thousand named characters so far]], far, hasn't shown up again since.
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** Jossed, [[spoiler: Kenichi's FinalBoss is actually Satomi Kajima an another opposite but closer of Kenichi and Berserker fights along with the other unarmed YOMI members with the Shinpaku Alliance against YOMI of the armed division.]]
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[[WMG:Miu's suit is made of prototype nanozeiron]]
Nanozeiron is a bulletproof cloth from the manga ''Kimi Wa 008'', also by Syun Matsuena, with Shigure shown to be an acquaintance of the female lead Ayame. Miu's suit being a prototype would explain why it gets shredded so often: [[FlawedPrototype they still have to get it right]].
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* Adding to this WMG, here's a potential "behind the scenes" interview with the "actors" (this one based on a behind-the-scenes episode of ''TheSimpsons''):

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* Adding to this WMG, here's a potential "behind the scenes" interview with the "actors" (this one based on a behind-the-scenes episode of ''TheSimpsons''):''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''):
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** Jossed. [[spoiler: Though one of the shadows of EvilMentor Kensei's new disciples [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/history_s_strongest_disciple_kenichi/v37/c344/7.html looks suspiciously similar to Berserker]].]]

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** Jossed. [[spoiler: Though one of the shadows of EvilMentor Kensei's new disciples [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/history_s_strongest_disciple_kenichi/v37/c344/7.html looks suspiciously similar to Berserker]].Berserker.]]



* She was shown to wear some rather unique [[http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/192/03/ battle attire]] in a flashback, and Miu has [[http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/242/05/ heard of the name before.]] Not much else to go on, but there you have it.

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* She was shown to wear some rather unique [[http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/192/03/ battle attire]] attire in a flashback, and Miu has [[http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/242/05/ heard of the name before.]] before. Not much else to go on, but there you have it.



[[WMG:Nijima is the secret love-child of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Eyeshield21 Hiruma Yoichi and Sena Kobayakawa]].]]

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[[WMG:Nijima is the secret love-child of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Eyeshield21 [[Manga/Eyeshield21 Hiruma Yoichi and Sena Kobayakawa]].]]



* It comes from [[http://www.mangareader.net/337-23777-1/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/chapter-271.html certain chapter title-page,]] rereading some chapters. Usually, she has a throwaway skill like invincibility in Othello and flying kicks (as noted by Kenichi in an omake/mini-comic), but they might all be Checkov's Skills.
* Chapter [[http://mangafox.me/manga/history_s_strongest_disciple_kenichi/v38/c353/1.html 353]]'s title page actually shows Tanimoto critiquing Honoka's choking technique (while otherwise ignoring her, but still).
** [[spoiler:Based on the last two panels on [[http://mangafox.me/manga/history_s_strongest_disciple_kenichi/v49/c546/17.html this page]], this might not be so far-fetched...]]

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* It comes from [[http://www.mangareader.net/337-23777-1/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/chapter-271.html certain chapter title-page,]] title-page, rereading some chapters. Usually, she has a throwaway skill like invincibility in Othello and flying kicks (as noted by Kenichi in an omake/mini-comic), but they might all be Checkov's Skills.
* Chapter [[http://mangafox.me/manga/history_s_strongest_disciple_kenichi/v38/c353/1.html 353]]'s 353's title page actually shows Tanimoto critiquing Honoka's choking technique (while otherwise ignoring her, but still).
** [[spoiler:Based on the last two panels on [[http://mangafox.me/manga/history_s_strongest_disciple_kenichi/v49/c546/17.html this page]], this might not be so far-fetched...]]



Forget the details and [[http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/422/7 face]] [[http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/422/8 the facts]]

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** it's not impossible seeing [[http://www.mangareader.net/337-23520-17/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/chapter-14.html this]].
*** Try further back. He and Mikumo fought against YAMI in World War II. On the other hand, considering how many years back it was, he was probably very young, and quit when the war started, or was never a member at all.

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** it's not impossible seeing [[http://www.mangareader.net/337-23520-17/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/chapter-14.html this]].
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Try further back. He and Mikumo fought against YAMI in World War II. On the other hand, considering how many years back it was, he was probably very young, and quit when the war started, or was never a member at all.



* [[spoiler:The idea of Kenichi eventually facing Saiga in combat may have just been strengthened. See [[http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/466/15 here]] and [[http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/466/16 here]]]].


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* [[spoiler:The idea of Kenichi eventually facing Saiga in combat may have just been strengthened. See [[http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/466/15 here]] and [[http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/466/16 here]]]].

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Okay, this is REALLY obscure, but it was a plot point both in the previous manga before the reboot (back when Ragnarok was Viper), but it's also mentioned again in [[http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenichi91/151551-4.html chapter 91, page 4]] so it seems to fit best that it's Miu's dad who was the guy who left. Either that or the entire plot thread has been dropped entirely, which I hope isn't the case, the series is relatively free of plot holes otherwise, but unless it's this, I don't see how he can throw somebody in without it being seen as an ass pull since this plot thread has gone unmentioned since this page.

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Okay, this is REALLY obscure, but it was a plot point both in the previous manga before the reboot (back when Ragnarok was Viper), but it's also mentioned again in [[http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenichi91/151551-4.html chapter 91, page 4]] 4 so it seems to fit best that it's Miu's dad who was the guy who left. Either that or the entire plot thread has been dropped entirely, which I hope isn't the case, the series is relatively free of plot holes otherwise, but unless it's this, I don't see how he can throw somebody in without it being seen as an ass pull since this plot thread has gone unmentioned since this page.



[[https://gallery.missdream.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act11/033.jpg Minako's kicks are in Savate style and supremely powerful]], and it would take a special kind of master (read: an utter madman who is nonetheless ''that'' competent) to keep up with her...

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[[https://gallery.missdream.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act11/033.jpg Minako's kicks are in Savate style and supremely powerful]], and it takes a special kind of master to keep up with her...

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[[https://gallery.missdream.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act11/033.jpg Minako's kicks are in Savate style and supremely powerful]], and it takes would take a special kind of master (read: an utter madman who is nonetheless ''that'' competent) to keep up with her...
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[[WMG:Christopher Eclair trained [[Manga/SailorMoon Minako Aino]]]]
[[https://gallery.missdream.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act11/033.jpg Minako's kicks are in Savate style and supremely powerful]], and it takes a special kind of master to keep up with her...
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[[WMG: Sakaki knows [[FistOfTheNorthStar Hokuto Shinken]]]]

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* Ain't she hot for [[ExtremityExtremist Ukita]]?
* Kisara has been shown to be all kinds of {{Tsundere}} for Ukita. In the final chapter of the manga, they are shown [[spoiler:together on what is implied by Kisara's outfit to be a date. Without Shiratori to mess things up this time.]]

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What better way to crush her the spirit of that "dairy cow" then by stealing her guy in addition to breaking a rib or three?
* Ain't she hot for [[ExtremityExtremist Ukita]]?
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Jossed. Kisara has been shown to be all kinds of {{Tsundere}} for Ukita. In the final chapter of the manga, they are shown [[spoiler:together on what is implied by Kisara's outfit to be a date. Without Shiratori to mess things up this time.]]



* Partly {{jossed}} unless The Elder was [[BlatantLies blatantly lying]] about his past of never have been defeated, and taking down numerous dojos when he was younger than Kenichi. Although the part about Kenichi becoming the new "Elder" of Ryozanpaku would not be a very large surprise to me.

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* Partly {{jossed}} unless The Elder was [[BlatantLies blatantly lying]] about his past of never have been defeated, and taking down numerous dojos when he was younger than Kenichi. Although the part about Kenichi becoming the new "Elder" of Ryozanpaku would not be a very large surprise to me.



* Struck me when I saw a [[http://www.mangareader.net/337-23777-1/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/chapter-271.html certain chapter title-page,]] rereading some chapters. Usually, she has a throwaway skill like invincibility in Othello and flying kicks (as noted by Kenichi in an omake/mini-comic), but they might all be Checkov's Skills.

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* Struck me when I saw a It comes from [[http://www.mangareader.net/337-23777-1/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/chapter-271.html certain chapter title-page,]] rereading some chapters. Usually, she has a throwaway skill like invincibility in Othello and flying kicks (as noted by Kenichi in an omake/mini-comic), but they might all be Checkov's Skills.



Rather, the senior Tanimoto was murdered by Yami agents and his wife was framed for it.

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Rather, the senior Tanimoto was murdered by Yami agents and his wife was framed for it.
it. Although we don't know the precise timeline of events, Tanimoto's adoptive mother was caught suspiciously quickly for being the mastermind and the executives at his adoptive father's company were equally quick at taking advantage of the distraught kid. If they were killing to drown a child then certainly killing a grown man is not beyond the pale for them. Finally, in Tanimoto's flashback, his adoptive mother looks and sounds just as surprised and distraught as he himself.
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[[WMG: The Elder is {{Exalted}}]]

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* Even if he has no natural martial arts talent, he is uniquely suited to practicing Katsujinken. Many people, including Shigure in the latest chapter, have remarked that he naturally has no killing intent, even while fighting, whereas most of his masters have had to train hard to suppress theirs (like Ma) or never bothered to do so in the first place, instead fighting only enemies they know can survive their attacks (like Apachai). This unique trait not only means that he nearly always exists in a psychological blind spot for his enemies, but also that he can learn any technique he is taught without having to bother teaching him to hold back with it (which is the bulk of martial arts training), because he does it naturally. This means that while he's slower to learn than a talented martial artist, on the whole he'll learn things faster anyway because he has less to learn.

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* Even if he has no natural martial arts talent, he is uniquely suited to practicing Katsujinken. Many people, including Shigure in the latest chapter, Shigure, have remarked that he naturally has no killing intent, even while fighting, whereas most of his masters have had to train hard to suppress theirs (like Ma) or never bothered to do so in the first place, instead fighting only enemies they know can survive their attacks (like Apachai). This unique trait not only means that he nearly always exists in a psychological blind spot for his enemies, but also that he can learn any technique he is taught without having to bother teaching him to hold back with it (which is the bulk of martial arts training), because he does it naturally. This means that while he's slower to learn than a talented martial artist, on the whole he'll learn things faster anyway because he has less to learn.



*** [[spoiler:He technically ''does'' in the latest arc, in the midst of snapping her out of Junazard's brainwashing]].

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*** [[spoiler:He technically ''does'' in the latest arc, in the midst of snapping her out of Junazard's brainwashing]].



* [[spoiler: We might finally see this happen in light of recent events]].
** [[spoiler:Averted as of Chapter 408.]]
*** It'll still happen, but later on. Specifically, it'll be [[spoiler: Akisame]], in a fight against [[spoiler: his best friend Furinji Saiga, the One Shadow himself.]]

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* [[spoiler: We might finally see this happen in light of recent events]].
** [[spoiler:Averted as of Chapter 408.]]
*** It'll
408 but it'll still happen, but happen later on. Specifically, it'll be [[spoiler: Akisame]], in a fight against [[spoiler: his best friend Furinji Saiga, the One Shadow himself.]]



* He will also pull a HeelFaceTurn, if he hasn't already by the latest chapter, after having been [[DefeatMeansFriendship defeated by Shigure]].

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* He will also pull a HeelFaceTurn, if he hasn't already by the latest chapter, already, after having been [[DefeatMeansFriendship defeated by Shigure]].



* Considering that Kokin appears to hold no grudge against Kenichi following the end of their latest fight, and his master Agaard respects Kenichi's tenacity and holds Apachai's strength and ability in high regard...

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Specifically, there's the love that's unrequited and that causes the rejected character to go all-out in an effort to win the love interest's heart (Kenichi wanting to become strong enough to protect Miu, from early arcs coming down to now, as well as Ukita displaying his {{Determinator}} attitude [[spoiler:to the point of invoking a HeroicSacrifice in the most recent chapters]] to prove his love for Kisara. Then there's the love that's spawned from the desire to protect the love interest, who in this case has already reciprocated [[spoiler:(the aforementioned Kenichi and Miu, plus Saiga's reason for his FaceHeelTurn [[{{Irony}} even though he wound up killing his wife]])]]. Then there's the more platonic love where one wishes to fight on behalf of family members or friends ([[ChronicHeroSyndrome Kenichi]] for the Shinpaku Alliance, Hayato Furinji [[spoiler:[[PapaWolf and Saiga]]]] for Miu, Freya and her grandfather for each other, even [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Akira Hongo]] for the memory of his disciple Sho Kanou).

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Specifically, there's the love that's unrequited and that causes the rejected character to go all-out in an effort to win the love interest's heart (Kenichi wanting to become strong enough to protect Miu, from early arcs coming down to now, as well as Ukita displaying his {{Determinator}} attitude [[spoiler:to the point of invoking a HeroicSacrifice in the most recent chapters]] HeroicSacrifice]] to prove his love for Kisara. Then there's the love that's spawned from the desire to protect the love interest, who in this case has already reciprocated [[spoiler:(the aforementioned Kenichi and Miu, plus Saiga's reason for his FaceHeelTurn [[{{Irony}} even though he wound up killing his wife]])]]. Then there's the more platonic love where one wishes to fight on behalf of family members or friends ([[ChronicHeroSyndrome Kenichi]] for the Shinpaku Alliance, Hayato Furinji [[spoiler:[[PapaWolf and Saiga]]]] for Miu, Freya and her grandfather for each other, even [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Akira Hongo]] for the memory of his disciple Sho Kanou).
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[[WMG: Mikumo is actually a FallenHero]]
As shown in a flashback, she fought alongside the Elder at one time during their youth, which means she was one of the good guys. Her current pushing of the Eternal Setting Sun plan [[spoiler:as the series' GreaterScopeVillain]] is because she saw or experienced ''something'' that resulted in her being MaddenedIntoMisanthropy, to the point that she decided on the KillEmAll route to either take revenge (if it was something personal that happened to her) or to [[WellIntentionedExtremist right what she saw as a grievous wrong]].

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** Couldn't be. The Elder said he only met Mikumo during WWII, and he hadn't even seen her since then. He even said she was exaggerating their relationship with her "burning fires between us" comment.




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[[WMG:The whole Yami vs. Ryouzanpaku battle is really just a contest over who can train a better boyfriend for Miu.]]
* What about the female disciples? Not to mention Chikage. Unless... is there something about Miu that we're not being told?
** [[YuriFan God, I hope so.]]
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[[WMG:The whole Yami vs. Ryouzanpaku battle is really just a contest over who can train a better boyfriend spouse for Miu.]]
* What about Elder Hayato has "defeat me" as a qualification for a reason and this is the female disciples? Not to mention Chikage. Unless... is there something about Miu that we're not being told?
** [[YuriFan God, I hope so.]]
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reason. He doesn't mean that Saiga gives a crap about them.want to lose to Yami. Even the females disciples are involved.
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He punched a pool in half, therefore it stands to reason that he can also [[KeychainOfCreation punch a river in half]].

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* Kisara has been shown to be all kinds of {{Tsundere}} for Ukita. In the final chapter of the manga, they are shown [[spoiler:together on what is implied by Kisara's outfit to be a date. Without Shiratori to mess things up this time.]]
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* Sort of confirmed throughout the latter half of the manga: Agaard Jum Sai, Serhul Rahman, and Hongo Akira are all shown to be varying admixtures of WellIntentionedExtremist, NobleDemon, and FriendlyEnemy (also BigBrotherMentor and TheRival in Agaard and Hongo's cases), with frequent PetTheDog moments. Alexander Gaidar, Diego Carlo, and Ma Sogetsu are also shown to [[EvenEvilHasStandards have standards]]. Alexander and Diego are explicitly shown [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes care for their disciples]]. Sogetsu is implied to be a much more concerned TricksterMentor than is shown. And in the end, all of them [[spoiler:turn against Yami]].
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* Jossed in the final chapter. Tsuji is [[spoiler: [[NobodyLovesTheBassist playing the bass]] in Siegfried's band.]]
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** Even though this troper would find that to be completely awesome...it also doesn't sound very probable. Just for the fact that GunsAreUseless. Especially with masters. Christopher Eclair casually sidesteped around gunfire like it was no big deal. So unless futuristic super guns exist in this world, a gun isn't a good weapon against martial artists after a certain level.

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