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It fits in well with their theme: A ship is destroyed in harbor rather than fall into enemy hands. This backfires, as the charred remains are built upon and reconstructed into one of the first of a new breed of ships, which is forced into the service of evil.
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It fits in well with their theme: A ship is destroyed in harbor rather than fall into enemy hands. This backfires, as the charred remains are built upon and reconstructed into one of the first of a new breed of ships, which is forced into the service of evil.evil.
[[WMG: Light Cruiser Water Demon will be Sendai's counterpart]]
Given that Light Cruiser Demon resembles Naka and Light Cruiser Princess is Jintsuu, this seems pretty obvious.
[[WMG: Light Cruiser Water Demon will be Sendai's counterpart]]
Given that Light Cruiser Demon resembles Naka and Light Cruiser Princess is Jintsuu, this seems pretty obvious.
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** Not much of an objection. Resurrecting your enemy's dead to use as your own is a time-honoured tradition of necromancy, one that Japlennium[[note]]Because they're Japanese Millennium, geddit?[[/note]] would probably enjoy rubbing in the faces of the gaijin.
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* Pretty hard to say, as some of them are based on Allied ships. For example, CL Tsu-class is obviously the USS Atlanta because it posses the same weapon as it is.
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* Pretty hard to say, as some of them are based on Allied ships. For example, CL Tsu-class is obviously the USS Atlanta because it posses the same weapon as it is.is.
[[WMG: The very first Abyssal was the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Virginia USS Merrimac/CSS Virginia]]]]
It fits in well with their theme: A ship is destroyed in harbor rather than fall into enemy hands. This backfires, as the charred remains are built upon and reconstructed into one of the first of a new breed of ships, which is forced into the service of evil.
[[WMG: The very first Abyssal was the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Virginia USS Merrimac/CSS Virginia]]]]
It fits in well with their theme: A ship is destroyed in harbor rather than fall into enemy hands. This backfires, as the charred remains are built upon and reconstructed into one of the first of a new breed of ships, which is forced into the service of evil.
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A bit of a stretch, but considering how Akitsu Maru has pale skin just like them, and the whole RavenHairIvorySkin WomanInBlack deal that she shares with some Abyssals like Battleship Princess and Water Demon. Maybe in the [=KanColle=]-verse an IJA equivalent to Millennium from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' escaped to parts unknown in the dying days of the empire and created or summoned the Abyssals to take vengeance on the world that beat them once.
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A bit of a stretch, but considering how Akitsu Maru has pale skin just like them, and the whole RavenHairIvorySkin WomanInBlack deal that she shares with some Abyssals like Battleship Princess and Water Demon. Maybe in the [=KanColle=]-verse an IJA equivalent to Millennium from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' escaped to parts unknown in the dying days of the empire and created or summoned the Abyssals to take vengeance on the world that beat them once.once.
*Pretty hard to say, as some of them are based on Allied ships. For example, CL Tsu-class is obviously the USS Atlanta because it posses the same weapon as it is.
*Pretty hard to say, as some of them are based on Allied ships. For example, CL Tsu-class is obviously the USS Atlanta because it posses the same weapon as it is.
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A bit of a stretch, but considering how Akitsu Maru has pale skin just like them.
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A bit of a stretch, but considering how Akitsu Maru has pale skin just like them.them, and the whole RavenHairIvorySkin WomanInBlack deal that she shares with some Abyssals like Battleship Princess and Water Demon. Maybe in the [=KanColle=]-verse an IJA equivalent to Millennium from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' escaped to parts unknown in the dying days of the empire and created or summoned the Abyssals to take vengeance on the world that beat them once.
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That "Young Leaf" on her hat gives it away. She's [=JDS=] ''Wakaba'', or as she was known during [=WWII=], IJN ''Nashi'', a ''Tachibana''-class destroyer.
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That "Young Leaf" on her hat gives it away. She's [=JDS=] ''Wakaba'', or as she was known during [=WWII=], IJN ''Nashi'', a ''Tachibana''-class destroyer.destroyer.
[[WMG: Abyssals were created/summoned by IJA remnants.]]
A bit of a stretch, but considering how Akitsu Maru has pale skin just like them.
[[WMG: Abyssals were created/summoned by IJA remnants.]]
A bit of a stretch, but considering how Akitsu Maru has pale skin just like them.
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[[spoiler:I kinda wonder... maybe their motive is simply to get back to their friends, at least for the ones that used to be shipgirls. Perhaps the common mooks are the ones that corrupt them, and their minds are warped in the process, making them attack their friends against their own will]].
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[[spoiler:I kinda wonder... maybe their motive is simply to get back to their friends, at least for the ones that used to be shipgirls. Perhaps the common mooks are the ones that corrupt them, and their minds are warped in the process, making them attack their friends against their own will]].will]].
[[WMG: Error Musume is a ship girl in disguise]]
That "Young Leaf" on her hat gives it away. She's [=JDS=] ''Wakaba'', or as she was known during [=WWII=], IJN ''Nashi'', a ''Tachibana''-class destroyer.
[[WMG: Error Musume is a ship girl in disguise]]
That "Young Leaf" on her hat gives it away. She's [=JDS=] ''Wakaba'', or as she was known during [=WWII=], IJN ''Nashi'', a ''Tachibana''-class destroyer.
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* Jossed by subsequent update. Harbor/Seaport Princess and Water Demon are separate beings, with Princess having her own map 4-5.
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* Jossed by subsequent later update. Harbor/Seaport Princess and Water Demon are separate beings, with Princess having her own map 4-5.
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* Jossed. All the way up to Spring 2015, no second Arpeggio crossover has occurred.
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* Jossed, at least for first season.
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* Jossed by subsequent update. Harbor/Seaport Princess and Water Demon are separate beings, with Princess having her own map 4-5.
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* It's also possible that in the ''[=KanColle=]''verse, the Allies have fallen to the Abyssals, who use their resources to replenish their infinite supply of {{Mook}}s.
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The reason Harbor Princess was so weak in the original event she was in was because she was holding back her full strength. Not in the case of [[CameBackStrong Harbor Water Demon]], [[TookALevelInBadass in which she unleashes most, if not all of her full power.]]
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The reason Harbor Princess was so weak in the original event she was in was because she was holding back her full strength. Not in the case of [[CameBackStrong Harbor Water Demon]], [[TookALevelInBadass in which she unleashes most, if not all of her full power.]]]]
[[WMG: The Abyssal Princesses', Demons', and other bosses' motives]]
[[spoiler:I kinda wonder... maybe their motive is simply to get back to their friends, at least for the ones that used to be shipgirls. Perhaps the common mooks are the ones that corrupt them, and their minds are warped in the process, making them attack their friends against their own will]].
[[WMG: The Abyssal Princesses', Demons', and other bosses' motives]]
[[spoiler:I kinda wonder... maybe their motive is simply to get back to their friends, at least for the ones that used to be shipgirls. Perhaps the common mooks are the ones that corrupt them, and their minds are warped in the process, making them attack their friends against their own will]].
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...that they are fighting on a completely different front, with their own, grossly overpowered opponents. If the United States wasn't deploying their own ship-girls, the girls we see wouldn't just be fighting the '... Princess', they'd be fighting against the Abyssal High Command, which has been tied up dealing with the military juggernaut that is America.
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...that they are fighting on a completely different front, with their own, grossly overpowered opponents. If the United States wasn't deploying their own ship-girls, the girls we see wouldn't just be fighting the '... Princess', they'd be fighting against the Abyssal High Command, which has been tied up dealing with the military juggernaut that is America.America.
[[WMG: Harbor Princess holds back her power...]]
The reason Harbor Princess was so weak in the original event she was in was because she was holding back her full strength. Not in the case of [[CameBackStrong Harbor Water Demon]], [[TookALevelInBadass in which she unleashes most, if not all of her full power.]]
[[WMG: Harbor Princess holds back her power...]]
The reason Harbor Princess was so weak in the original event she was in was because she was holding back her full strength. Not in the case of [[CameBackStrong Harbor Water Demon]], [[TookALevelInBadass in which she unleashes most, if not all of her full power.]]
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* Alternatively, considering her number of attacks, supply of planes, and power on-par or even exceeding some bosses, Re may represent ''all of Taffy 3.''
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* Alternatively, considering her number of attacks, supply of planes, and power on-par with or even exceeding some bosses, Re Re-class may represent ''all of Taffy 3.''
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* Alternatively, considering her number of attacks, supply of planes, and power on-par or even exceeding some bosses, she may represent ''all of Taffy 3.''
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* Alternatively, considering her number of attacks, supply of planes, and power on-par or even exceeding some bosses, she Re may represent ''all of Taffy 3.''
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* Alternatively, considering her number of attacks, supply of planes, and power on-par or even exceeding some bosses, she may represent ''all of Taffy 3.''
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** To make matter more worse, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid Doolittle Raid]] just happen as well as that [[spoiler: the Admiral is insisting to cancel Operation MO, making [[HistoryRepeats History Repeats]] undeniable for the next episodes.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Naval District is attacked in episode 9, forcing the fleet to cancel their current operations and focus solely on Operation MI.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Naval District is attacked in episode 9, forcing the fleet to cancel their current operations and focus solely on Operation MI.]]
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[[WMG:The ships represent not the ''grudges'' of the shipgirls but their ''ambitions'']]
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[[WMG:The Abyssal ships represent not the ''grudges'' of the shipgirls but their ''ambitions'']]
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A common theory on some ImageBoards, as a joking response to how the Admiral is never seen on-screen and Nagato seems to be doing his job for him. The fact that Nagato just happens to have the Admiral's orders stowed away after [[spoiler:the Admiral's abduction]] lends a bit of credence to this theory.
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A common theory on some ImageBoards, as a joking response to how the Admiral is never seen on-screen and Nagato seems to be doing his job for him. The fact that Nagato just happens to have the Admiral's orders stowed away after [[spoiler:the Admiral's abduction]] lends a bit of credence to this theory.theory.
[[WMG:The real reason we never see an Allied Forces ship-girl is...]]
...that they are fighting on a completely different front, with their own, grossly overpowered opponents. If the United States wasn't deploying their own ship-girls, the girls we see wouldn't just be fighting the '... Princess', they'd be fighting against the Abyssal High Command, which has been tied up dealing with the military juggernaut that is America.
[[WMG:The real reason we never see an Allied Forces ship-girl is...]]
...that they are fighting on a completely different front, with their own, grossly overpowered opponents. If the United States wasn't deploying their own ship-girls, the girls we see wouldn't just be fighting the '... Princess', they'd be fighting against the Abyssal High Command, which has been tied up dealing with the military juggernaut that is America.
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* {{Jossed}}; See above's jossing for details.
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...only for her to return to consciousness standing next to the Naval District's radio tower, where she was watching Akagi at the very beginning. With the memories of how things went last time and the combat experience she's accrued, she'll try to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as best she can.
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...only for her to return to consciousness standing next to the Naval District's radio tower, where she was watching Akagi at the very beginning. With the memories of how things went last time and the combat experience she's accrued, she'll try to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as best she can.can.
[[WMG:In the anime, the Admiral is really Nagato.]]
A common theory on some ImageBoards, as a joking response to how the Admiral is never seen on-screen and Nagato seems to be doing his job for him. The fact that Nagato just happens to have the Admiral's orders stowed away after [[spoiler:the Admiral's abduction]] lends a bit of credence to this theory.
[[WMG:In the anime, the Admiral is really Nagato.]]
A common theory on some ImageBoards, as a joking response to how the Admiral is never seen on-screen and Nagato seems to be doing his job for him. The fact that Nagato just happens to have the Admiral's orders stowed away after [[spoiler:the Admiral's abduction]] lends a bit of credence to this theory.
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[[WMG: In line with the above, the Abyssals are the result of the fascist US's equivalent of {{Ghostapo}}.]]
Maybe it was the other way around? The fascist American {{Ghostapo}} calls on the creatures of the deep, resulting in the Abyssals. In response, the Japanese turn to Shinto and create the kanmusu.
Maybe it was the other way around? The fascist American {{Ghostapo}} calls on the creatures of the deep, resulting in the Abyssals. In response, the Japanese turn to Shinto and create the kanmusu.
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* {{Jossed}}, but given that a second season has been announced...
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* Confirmed.
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* Confirmed.
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* {{Jossed}}; [[spoiler:the girls manage to achieve victory with the help of reinforcements.]]
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Mostly based on the cosmetic similarities the silhouette shares with the actual character.
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Mostly based on the cosmetic similarities the silhouette shares with the actual character.character.
[[WMG: Season 1 will have a DownerEnding...]]
HistoryRepeats, and Operation MI ends poorly with the loss of Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu and Soryu. This also gives the Abyssals the opportunity to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalcanal_Campaign strike at the Guadalcanal Naval District]], forcing the battered survivors of MI (including Fubuki, who wears a new uniform with red and black trim in remembrance of Akagi) to rush out and provide support. Fubuki is assigned as an escort to a group of cruisers led by Aoba, with the aim of bombarding the captured Naval District to prevent the Abyssals from making use of it. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Esperance On their way there]], they are ambushed by an Abyssal fleet that was mistaken for a friendly force and Fubuki takes critical damage. The episode and season end when she sinks into the cold, dark sea...
[[WMG: ...leading to a PeggySue plot for Season 2.]]
...only for her to return to consciousness standing next to the Naval District's radio tower, where she was watching Akagi at the very beginning. With the memories of how things went last time and the combat experience she's accrued, she'll try to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as best she can.
[[WMG: Season 1 will have a DownerEnding...]]
HistoryRepeats, and Operation MI ends poorly with the loss of Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu and Soryu. This also gives the Abyssals the opportunity to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalcanal_Campaign strike at the Guadalcanal Naval District]], forcing the battered survivors of MI (including Fubuki, who wears a new uniform with red and black trim in remembrance of Akagi) to rush out and provide support. Fubuki is assigned as an escort to a group of cruisers led by Aoba, with the aim of bombarding the captured Naval District to prevent the Abyssals from making use of it. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Esperance On their way there]], they are ambushed by an Abyssal fleet that was mistaken for a friendly force and Fubuki takes critical damage. The episode and season end when she sinks into the cold, dark sea...
[[WMG: ...leading to a PeggySue plot for Season 2.]]
...only for her to return to consciousness standing next to the Naval District's radio tower, where she was watching Akagi at the very beginning. With the memories of how things went last time and the combat experience she's accrued, she'll try to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong as best she can.
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Naval District is attacked in episode 9, forcing the fleet to cancel their current operations and focus solely on Operation MI.]]
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Firstly because it would be BookEnds - Akagi saved Fubuki in episode one and now she gets to return the favour. Secondly because after the elaborate setup Yamato had in episode 11, it would break the tropes for her to do nothing with it.
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Firstly because it would be BookEnds - Akagi saved Fubuki in episode one and now she gets to return the favour. Secondly because after the elaborate setup Yamato had in episode 11, it would break the tropes for her to do nothing with it.it.
[[WMG: The teased new character accompanying Yamato in episode 11 is Taihou.]]
Mostly based on the cosmetic similarities the silhouette shares with the actual character.
[[WMG: The teased new character accompanying Yamato in episode 11 is Taihou.]]
Mostly based on the cosmetic similarities the silhouette shares with the actual character.
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** To make matter more worse, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid Doolittle Raid]] just happen as well as that [[spoiler: the Admiral is insisting to cancel Operation MO, making [[HistoryRepeats History Repeats]] undeniable for the next episodes.]]
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** To make matter more worse, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid Doolittle Raid]] just happen as well as that [[spoiler: the Admiral is insisting to cancel Operation MO, making [[HistoryRepeats History Repeats]] undeniable for the next episodes.]]]]
[[WMG: Fubuki and Yamato will lead a BigDamnHeroes moment in episode 12.]]
Firstly because it would be BookEnds - Akagi saved Fubuki in episode one and now she gets to return the favour. Secondly because after the elaborate setup Yamato had in episode 11, it would break the tropes for her to do nothing with it.
[[WMG: Fubuki and Yamato will lead a BigDamnHeroes moment in episode 12.]]
Firstly because it would be BookEnds - Akagi saved Fubuki in episode one and now she gets to return the favour. Secondly because after the elaborate setup Yamato had in episode 11, it would break the tropes for her to do nothing with it.
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The actual Operation was a plan to cut off Allied supply lines from Fiji and Samoa that was first postponed after the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea Battle of the Coral Sea]], then later cancelled due to massive losses in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway Battle of Midway]]. If KanColle follows the history leading up to the Operation then things might be going down hill pretty quickly.
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The actual Operation was a plan to cut off Allied supply lines from Fiji and Samoa that was first postponed after the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea Battle of the Coral Sea]], then later cancelled due to massive losses in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway Battle of Midway]]. If KanColle follows the history leading up to the Operation then things might be going down hill pretty quickly.quickly.
** To make matter more worse, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid Doolittle Raid]] just happen as well as that [[spoiler: the Admiral is insisting to cancel Operation MO, making [[HistoryRepeats History Repeats]] undeniable for the next episodes.]]
** To make matter more worse, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid Doolittle Raid]] just happen as well as that [[spoiler: the Admiral is insisting to cancel Operation MO, making [[HistoryRepeats History Repeats]] undeniable for the next episodes.]]
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In real life, The ''Samuel B. Roberts'' was known as "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship" due to her performance in the Battle off Samar. Therefore, when she shows up as an Abyssal ship, she has the fighting capabilities of a battleship, while retaining the small body of a destroyer escort.
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In real life, The ''Samuel B. Roberts'' was known as "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship" due to her performance in the Battle off Samar. Therefore, when she shows up as an Abyssal ship, she has the fighting capabilities of a battleship, while retaining the small body of a destroyer escort.escort.
[[WMG: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_FS Operation FS]] in the anime might not happen.]]
The actual Operation was a plan to cut off Allied supply lines from Fiji and Samoa that was first postponed after the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea Battle of the Coral Sea]], then later cancelled due to massive losses in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway Battle of Midway]]. If KanColle follows the history leading up to the Operation then things might be going down hill pretty quickly.
[[WMG: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_FS Operation FS]] in the anime might not happen.]]
The actual Operation was a plan to cut off Allied supply lines from Fiji and Samoa that was first postponed after the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea Battle of the Coral Sea]], then later cancelled due to massive losses in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway Battle of Midway]]. If KanColle follows the history leading up to the Operation then things might be going down hill pretty quickly.
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** Those two specifically may even represent Akagi and Kaga's sister ships Amagi and Tosa, who were never completed due to certain circumstances. Amagi was undergoing conversion to an aircraft carrier like Akagi when she was severely damaged in the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923 and consequently scrapped. Kaga was tapped as the replacement while Tosa was never completed as part of the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922. She was used as a testbed for armor layouts and later scuttled. Think about it. Akagi and Kaga's stillborn sisters have come back from the dead eager to slaughter the shipgirls who got a chance at life.
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[[WMG: Re-class represents the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_%28DE-413%29 ''USS Samuel B. Roberts'']]]]
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[[WMG: Re-class represents the [[http://en.''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_%28DE-413%29 ''USS USS Samuel B. Roberts'']]]]Roberts]]]]''
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[[WMC: Re-class represents the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_%28DE-413%29 ''USS Samuel B. Roberts'']]]]
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Case in point: [[spoiler:Mutsuki's unrequited feelings of love for Kisaragi is going to eat away at her until she becomes an Abyss Fleet Girl]].
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Case in point: [[spoiler:Mutsuki's unrequited feelings of love for Kisaragi is going to eat away at her until she becomes an Abyss Fleet Girl]].Girl]].
[[WMC: Re-class represents the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_%28DE-413%29 ''USS Samuel B. Roberts'']]]]
Re-class is noticeably younger looking compared to the other battleships-her physical age appears closer to a smaller ship like a destroyer or destroyer escort.
In real life, The ''Samuel B. Roberts'' was known as "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship" due to her performance in the Battle off Samar. Therefore, when she shows up as an Abyssal ship, she has the fighting capabilities of a battleship, while retaining the small body of a destroyer escort.
[[WMC: Re-class represents the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_%28DE-413%29 ''USS Samuel B. Roberts'']]]]
Re-class is noticeably younger looking compared to the other battleships-her physical age appears closer to a smaller ship like a destroyer or destroyer escort.
In real life, The ''Samuel B. Roberts'' was known as "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship" due to her performance in the Battle off Samar. Therefore, when she shows up as an Abyssal ship, she has the fighting capabilities of a battleship, while retaining the small body of a destroyer escort.
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* Doesn't really work; the Abyssals have aviation battleships and tons of torpedo cruisers, neither of which were used by the Allies. They never even designed torpedo cruisers.
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** Doesn't work; the Abyssals have tons of torpedo cruisers and the Allies never used or even designed torpedo cruisers.
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** Doesn't work; the Abyssals have tons of torpedo cruisers and the Allies never used or even designed torpedo cruisers.
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** Adding credence to this theory is the Light Cruiser Dwelling Demon boss in the Winter 2015 event (Operation Hailstone). She looks like a fusion of light cruisers Naka and Agano, both of whom were sunk during Operation Hailstone.
