History WMG / JohnCarter

14th Jun '15 4:36:12 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG:Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs does ''not'' write the [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom stories]] in the movieverse.]]
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[[WMG:Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs does ''not'' write the [[JohnCarterOfMars [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom stories]] in the movieverse.]]
6th Oct '14 8:49:18 PM bennusmagnus
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[[WMG: There are martians on earth and John Carter is one of them]] Perhaps an entire group of the human-looking martians were stranded on earth by the Therns after they got in the way, and they became the first Egyptians while blending in with the local human population.
6th Oct '14 8:42:00 PM bennusmagnus
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Through out the Marvel Cinematic Universe we have seen races that are capable of technological feet equal, if not superior, to that of the Therns. From the Asgardians to Thanos. The Ninth Ray may even be one of the infinity stones or at the very least based on one of them. Even the means of transporting from Earth to Mars, via the Therns medallions, is very similar to the Rainbow Bridge that Thor uses in his films. This would also explain why the Therns work is such secrecy, they are trying to avoid the attention of Odin who brought down the Ice Giants when they attempted to destroy the Earth and given the fact that John was able to kill two of them with a simple handgun its doubtful that they would be able to stand up to even one Asgardian who would likely see though their disguises.
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Through out the Marvel Cinematic Universe we have seen races that are capable of technological feet equal, if not superior, to that of the Therns. From the Asgardians to Thanos. The Ninth Ray may even be one of the infinity stones or at the very least based on one of them. Even the means of transporting from Earth to Mars, via the Therns medallions, is very similar to the Rainbow Bridge that Thor uses in his films. This would also explain why the Therns work is such secrecy, they are trying to avoid the attention of Odin who brought down the Ice Giants when they attempted to destroy the Earth and given the fact that John was able to kill two of them with a simple handgun its doubtful that they would be able to stand up to even one Asgardian who would likely see though their disguises.disguises. [[WMG: John Cater takes place in the DC Universe]] The green Martians are what the Martian Manhunter truly looks like.
16th Aug '14 12:26:50 AM TheMasquerade
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They're the descendants of the White Martians who once ruled Barsoom, just like in the books. Their ridiculously advanced technology was either based on something their ancestors had but the Red and Green Martians have lost or something they invented since. Matai Shang was lying about their being offworld immortals purely to mess with Carter's head and try to make him despair. They ''are'' planning on moving to Earth (and are already scouting it out) because Barsoom is dying, but it'll be their first actual planet-hop.
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They're the descendants of the White Martians who once ruled Barsoom, just like in the books. Their ridiculously advanced technology was either based on something their ancestors had but the Red and Green Martians have lost or something they invented since. Matai Shang was lying about their being offworld immortals purely to mess with Carter's head and try to make him despair. They ''are'' planning on moving to Earth (and are already scouting it out) because Barsoom is dying, but it'll be their first actual planet-hop.planet-hop. [[WMG: John Cater takes place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe]] Through out the Marvel Cinematic Universe we have seen races that are capable of technological feet equal, if not superior, to that of the Therns. From the Asgardians to Thanos. The Ninth Ray may even be one of the infinity stones or at the very least based on one of them. Even the means of transporting from Earth to Mars, via the Therns medallions, is very similar to the Rainbow Bridge that Thor uses in his films. This would also explain why the Therns work is such secrecy, they are trying to avoid the attention of Odin who brought down the Ice Giants when they attempted to destroy the Earth and given the fact that John was able to kill two of them with a simple handgun its doubtful that they would be able to stand up to even one Asgardian who would likely see though their disguises.
5th Mar '13 11:54:42 PM PaulA
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There's nothing preventing him from writing {{Tarzan}} and everything else he did, though. Carter's parting advice to "go write a book" could have easily been an allusion to that instead of the Barsoom tales.
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There's nothing preventing him from writing {{Tarzan}} Literature/{{Tarzan}} and everything else he did, though. Carter's parting advice to "go write a book" could have easily been an allusion to that instead of the Barsoom tales.
6th Jan '13 9:03:12 AM SeptimusHeap
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But You Screw One Goat is being renamed to Bestiality Is Depraved and misuse being removed
** Wouldn't a Thern having sex with a "lesser species" be like a [[ButYouScrewOneGoat human having sex with a cow?]] I know there's no indication in the film that they eat Red and Green Martians but still.
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** Wouldn't a Thern having sex with a "lesser species" be like a [[ButYouScrewOneGoat [[BestialityIsDepraved human having sex with a cow?]] I know there's no indication in the film that they eat Red and Green Martians but still.
2nd Aug '12 2:41:15 AM khalcyon2011
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* And this is why these are called ''Wild'' Mass Guessing.
19th Jun '12 11:53:23 AM FELH2
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[[WMG:EdgarRiceBurroughs does ''not'' write the [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom stories]] in the movieverse.]]
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[[WMG:EdgarRiceBurroughs [[WMG:Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs does ''not'' write the [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom stories]] in the movieverse.]]

The Black Martians, or First Born, aren't native to the red planet either in movie-verse. It's the only way their dynamic from the novels makes sense, as the movie Therns are so advanced that it's doubtful a native Barsoomian species could raid and manipulate them for centuries. Likely they've been playing out the same basic setup as depicted in ''The Gods of Mars'' across worlds for untold milennia, with Matai Shang not mentioning them in the movie because he doesn't want to admit weakness or fallibility in his people to either Sab Than or Carter- much less that they have ''enemies''.
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The Black Martians, or First Born, aren't native to the red planet either in movie-verse. It's the only way their dynamic from the novels makes sense, as the movie Therns are so advanced that it's doubtful a native Barsoomian species could raid and manipulate them for centuries. Likely they've been playing out the same basic setup as depicted in ''The Gods of Mars'' across worlds for untold milennia, with Matai Shang not mentioning them in the movie because he doesn't want to admit weakness or fallibility in his people to either Sab Than or Carter- much less that they have ''enemies''. ''enemies''.

** Well, in the books Phaidor was fairly open in her attraction to Carter, while Matai Shang is one of the many, ''many'' male villains with a thing for Dejah. It's also stated that Thuvia was thrown to the banths for refusing a high-ranking Thern's advances. Therns using "lesser beings" for purely sexual purposes would likely be considered mildly taboo, but that doesn't mean it doesn't ''happen''.
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** Well, in the books Phaidor was fairly open in her attraction to Carter, while Matai Shang is one of the many, ''many'' male villains with a thing for Dejah. It's also stated that Thuvia was thrown to the banths for refusing a high-ranking Thern's advances. Therns using "lesser beings" for purely sexual purposes would likely be considered mildly taboo, but that doesn't mean it doesn't ''happen''. ''happen''.

** In the film, though, the Therns are older than Barsoom, rather than being descendants of its original dominant race (or at least, says Matai Shang, who may have been lying).
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** In the film, though, the Therns are older than Barsoom, rather than being descendants of its original dominant race (or at least, says Matai Shang, who may have been lying). lying).
26th Mar '12 7:37:24 PM MasterGhandalf
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** Well, in the books Phaidor was fairly open in her attraction to Carter, while Matai Shang is one of the many, ''many'' male villains with a thing for Dejah. It's also stated that Thuvia was thrown to the banths for refusing a high-ranking Thern's advances. Therns using "lesser beings" for purely sexual purposes would likely be considered mildly taboo, but that doesn't mean it doesn't ''happen''.

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** In the film, though, the Therns are older than Barsoom, rather than being descendants of its original dominant race (or at least, says Matai Shang, who may have been lying).

They're the collective consciousness of a [[DeusEstMachina godlike]] [[GreyGoo swarm of nanomachines]] that turned against their masters billions of years ago. Each individual we see is a pseudopod, or a scout unit, of the whole, disguised to appear as a human. Their fancy fractal weapons and tools are all extensions of the nanomachine matrix.
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They're the collective consciousness of a [[DeusEstMachina godlike]] [[GreyGoo swarm of nanomachines]] that turned against their masters billions of years ago. Each individual we see is a pseudopod, or a scout unit, of the whole, disguised to appear as a human. Their fancy fractal weapons and tools are all extensions of the nanomachine matrix.matrix. [[WMG: The Therns ''aren't'' offworlders.]] They're the descendants of the White Martians who once ruled Barsoom, just like in the books. Their ridiculously advanced technology was either based on something their ancestors had but the Red and Green Martians have lost or something they invented since. Matai Shang was lying about their being offworld immortals purely to mess with Carter's head and try to make him despair. They ''are'' planning on moving to Earth (and are already scouting it out) because Barsoom is dying, but it'll be their first actual planet-hop.
26th Mar '12 1:20:28 PM zarpaulus
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** Wouldn't a Thern having sex with a "lesser species" be like a [[ButYouScrewOneGoat human having sex with a cow?]] I know there's no indication in the film that they eat Red and Green Martians but still.

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* In the books all Martians were effectively immortal thanks to their advanced medicine, the Therns just didn't have the "one-way trip down the river Iss when you reach a thousand" tradition.
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