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No "so-called 'reality' was all Cobb's dream", no "Mal planted an inception in Cobb." Everyone lives, no one is trapped in limbo for eternity, the inception on Fischer Jr. was successful, Saito undid Cobb's arrest warrant, Cobb was reunited with his children, Ariadne paid off her student loans, everyone on the team became best friends, and after they job they all got together for an epic party where they got massively drunk on wine that is more expensive than we will ever know. (Also at said party, Arthur hooked up with Ariadne.) They all lived happily ever after.

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No "so-called 'reality' was all Cobb's dream", no "Mal planted an inception in Cobb." Everyone lives, no one is trapped in limbo for eternity, the inception on Fischer Jr. was successful, Saito undid Cobb's arrest warrant, Cobb was reunited with his children, Ariadne paid off her student loans, everyone on the team became best friends, and after they job they all got together for an epic party where they got massively drunk on wine that is more expensive than we will ever know. (Also at said party, Arthur hooked up with Ariadne.) They all lived happily ever after.after.

[[WMG: There are two inceptions in the movie. The one Saito planned, and one Miles planned]]
This goes as follows- Miles knows of Cobb's inner demons, as well as his real life problems, and also knows that as much as Cobb wants to return to his kids, he can't really emotionally return without his own catharsis. Fearing this will never happen, and learning of Cobb's plans, he tells Ariadne to incept to Cobb that he no longer needs to feel responsible for Mal's death. That's why she spends so much time picking Cobb's brain, shadows him so much, and why she is so skilled at dreaming despite being presented as an amateur. That's why she was so certain he would be alright as the van was sinking- not because of his personal safety, that would be irrelevant- but because of his emotional health.
This also works with the idea that Cobb was incepting Saito too.
More Inceptions for everyone!
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** Alternatively, Mal is a physical representation of an AuthorFilibuster.
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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g6g2mvItp4 It all makes sense.]] Weird clothes, curiously empty streets, Tsundere woman manifesting weaponry out of thin air, teleporting, said woman's superhuman strength, etc. Or they're in Limbo. The woman even manages to be in multiple places at once.

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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g6g2mvItp4 It all makes sense.]] Weird clothes, curiously empty streets, Tsundere woman manifesting weaponry out of thin air, teleporting, said woman's superhuman strength, etc. Or they're in Limbo. The woman even manages to be in multiple places at once.once.

[[WMG:The whole movie is to be interpreted at face value alone.]]
No "so-called 'reality' was all Cobb's dream", no "Mal planted an inception in Cobb." Everyone lives, no one is trapped in limbo for eternity, the inception on Fischer Jr. was successful, Saito undid Cobb's arrest warrant, Cobb was reunited with his children, Ariadne paid off her student loans, everyone on the team became best friends, and after they job they all got together for an epic party where they got massively drunk on wine that is more expensive than we will ever know. (Also at said party, Arthur hooked up with Ariadne.) They all lived happily ever after.
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** Dude. I was totally thinking something similar. When Cobb starts talking about how [[spoiler: planted ideas can grow and grow and grow, I speculated that ''Cobb'' was an idea that had been planted into someone's mind (Mal's? Saito's, and this is all his dream?), and grown and grown and grown into something human-shaped. Or that he's the reverse of the WMG below, and he was a projection.]]
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[[WMG: The real world (level 0) of ''{{Inception}}'' is the dream world of ''TheMatrix''.]]
The machines of ''TheMatrix'' found that once they were able to instill a convincing dream-world within a large population of human drones, to instill additional layers of dreams is a simple matter of applying the basic dreaming process recursively. The original vision of ''TheMatrix'' was that the machines utilize collective human brainpower to create a massive supercomputer distributed among many billion "nodes", i.e. human minds -- not that they harvested humans for their energy output, as Morpheus explains in the film. As Cobb explained in ''{{Inception}}'', when we dream, we use our brainpower more fully. The machines realized the advantages of this for their purposes and began to provide people with some degree of control over this process, with the one restriction that they cannot wake up from the Matrix without Matrix-external assistance. With even a small handful of people delving deeply through successive dream layers, those individuals' computational power increased by many orders of magnitude -- ten people manipulating their own dreams have the computational power of ten '''''billion''''' people who never go further than level 1.

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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g6g2mvItp4 It all makes sense.]] Weird clothes, curiously empty streets, Tsundere woman manifesting weaponry out of thin air, teleporting, said woman's superhuman strength, etc. Obviously they've managed to suppress the projections. Or they're in Limbo. What's not clear is if the woman is real, or a projection.

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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g6g2mvItp4 It all makes sense.]] Weird clothes, curiously empty streets, Tsundere woman manifesting weaponry out of thin air, teleporting, said woman's superhuman strength, etc. Obviously they've managed to suppress the projections. Or they're in Limbo. What's not clear is if the The woman is real, or a projection.even manages to be in multiple places at once.
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* [[http://clothesonfilm.com/inception-jeffrey-kurland-costume-qa/14317/ Jossed.]]

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* [[http://clothesonfilm.com/inception-jeffrey-kurland-costume-qa/14317/ Jossed.]]]]

[[WMG: Maroon 5's "Misery" is an Inception Fanvid.]]
[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g6g2mvItp4 It all makes sense.]] Weird clothes, curiously empty streets, Tsundere woman manifesting weaponry out of thin air, teleporting, said woman's superhuman strength, etc. Obviously they've managed to suppress the projections. Or they're in Limbo. What's not clear is if the woman is real, or a projection.
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Will fill this out once this troper sees the movie.

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Will fill this out once this troper sees Taking place two or three years after the movie.whole debacle with the Chairman, the DC Mini is widely used by psychologists around the world. However, some people are using its power to enter dreams for nefarious uses. The suitcase they always carry around? A larger DC Mini that works on the wrists rather than the head.

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[[WMG: The kids at the end are just memories]]
They're wearing the same clothing that they were in all of the flashbacks!



* Supporting note: the projections ''never attack Cobb.'' Cobb shoots them, but they never shoot back directly at him.

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* Supporting note: the projections ''never attack Cobb.'' Cobb shoots them, but they never shoot back directly at him.him.

[[WMG: The kids at the end are just memories]]
They're wearing the same clothing that they were in all of the flashbacks!
* [[http://clothesonfilm.com/inception-jeffrey-kurland-costume-qa/14317/ Jossed.]]
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[[WMG: The kids at the end are just memories]]
They're wearing the same clothing that they were in all of the flashbacks!
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If Fischer was trained enough to have subconscious mooks defend him, he would have been able to recognize when he was in a dream and remember it (Ariadne could do this with what's shown as minimal training). Since he isn't, we can assume that those weren't part of his subconscious. Ariadne knew about Cobb's obsession with Mal, and Cobb knew that she wanted to help him get rid of it; Saito offered to help him see his kids again if the mission was successful. Since both of these had been parts of his subconscious for so long, he sent out his own mooks to sabotage their mission.

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If Fischer was trained enough to have subconscious mooks defend him, he would have been able to recognize when he was in a dream and remember it (Ariadne could do this with what's shown as minimal training). Since he isn't, we can assume that those weren't part of his subconscious. Ariadne knew about Cobb's obsession with Mal, and Cobb knew that she wanted to help him get rid of it; Saito offered to help him see his kids again if the mission was successful. Since both of these had been parts of his subconscious for so long, he sent out his own mooks to sabotage their mission.mission.
* Supporting note: the projections ''never attack Cobb.'' Cobb shoots them, but they never shoot back directly at him.
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** There '''were no''' murder charges. This was lampshaded when Moll hung a big fat lampshade on "A bunch of people chasing you around the world" when he was in "limbo". She might not even be dead, just on the other side of a messy divorce or something like that. All we saw was a long, long dream from a guy who inserted the people around him into it, including the Asian man who had a propensity to make phone calls (so his 'phone call' at the end was just something he's '''been''' doing the whole time Cobb was asleep)

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** There '''were no''' murder charges. This was lampshaded when Moll Mal hung a big fat lampshade on "A bunch of people chasing you around the world" when he was in "limbo". She might not even be dead, just on the other side of a messy divorce or something like that. All we saw was a long, long dream from a guy who inserted the people around him into it, including the Asian man who had a propensity to make phone calls (so his 'phone call' at the end was just something he's '''been''' doing the whole time Cobb was asleep)
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'Remember you told me you had a dream about us growing old together?'

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'Remember you told me you had a dream about us growing old together?'together?'

[[WMG:Saito set up his own extraction at the beginning of the film to entrap Cobb into helping him with Fischer.]]

Very shortly after leaving the dream, he gets Cobb on the helicopter to discuss Inception. How did Saito know about it? If he knew of Inception, he was clearly somewhat experienced with the dream world. This is why his subconscious had goons chasing Cobb when he escaped with the information, and why he was able to assist so readily in the higher dream levels after he had been shot in the van level. He was clearly experienced in the dream world, and because of this the initial attempted exception could not have worked. This means that Ariadne must have had previous dream experience as well.
Remember how those who are experienced in extraction need to get deeper and deeper into the dream levels in order to truly "dream"? Eames, Arthur, Cobb, they're all experienced, so it makes sense for them to be fully lucid on level three. But Saito and Ariadne are relative newcomers, so shouldn't they have been less lucid by that level? Or Ariadne on higher levels? Keep in mind, Cobb tries to tell us that they get attacked in the first level (the van) because Fischer has had some experience protecting himself. Whether that is true or not, Fischer's subconscious self is not aware he's in a dream - but in Ariadne's training we clearly see that she becomes aware with what appears to be very minimal training, and (this is key) REMEMBERS it afterwards. So if Fischer's actually had training, he should recognize a dream like she does. OR, her and Saito are FAR more experienced than they are letting on, and...

[[WMG:The subconscious mooks that attack them on the dream levels on the plane aren't Fischer's - they're COBB'S.]]

If Fischer was trained enough to have subconscious mooks defend him, he would have been able to recognize when he was in a dream and remember it (Ariadne could do this with what's shown as minimal training). Since he isn't, we can assume that those weren't part of his subconscious. Ariadne knew about Cobb's obsession with Mal, and Cobb knew that she wanted to help him get rid of it; Saito offered to help him see his kids again if the mission was successful. Since both of these had been parts of his subconscious for so long, he sent out his own mooks to sabotage their mission.
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[[WMG:Mal incepted Cobb to marry/love her.]]
'Remember you told me you had a dream about us growing old together?'

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* Or, the wobbling top signifies that Cobb is losing his sence of reality, and he is still in a dream but doesn't realize it.

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* Or, the wobbling top signifies that Cobb is losing his sence sense of reality, and he is still in a dream but doesn't realize it.


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****Actually, we know that it works the same for Cobb, since that was how he managed to incept Mal in the first place. If the top didn't work the same for him, the inception wouldn't have worked, since the top wouldn't have still been spinning when Mal went to check it.
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* That makes so much sense.

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* ** That makes so much sense.
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* That makes so much sense.
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[[WMG: Mal killed herself in real life]]
Mal had the idea in her subconscious that her world was fake and that she needed to kill herself to get out. It doesn't matter if the real world seen in the film is just a dream, Mal just kept killing herself and killing herself until she died for real.
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It's all in the title. I usually hate "characters are the same because they share an actor" WMGs, but this is so damn close: [[http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/snl-digital-short-the-mirror/224715/ Sorry, Non-Americans, there isn't even a version on Youtube.]]

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It's all in the title. I usually hate "characters are the same because they share an actor" WMGs, but this is so damn close: [[http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/snl-digital-short-the-mirror/224715/ Sorry, Non-Americans, there isn't even a version on Youtube.]]]]

[[WMG: Everything is made up and a dream, taking place over the course of a single night. It's Cobbs way of coping with tragedy in the real world.]]
In the real world (which does not appear in the movie), inception and all that does not exist. It's just an ordinary world. In this world, Mal and Cobb are married as in the movie, and she likewise commits suicide but for ordinary reasons and unexpectedly. Cobb is devastated of course. That night when he falls asleep, he dreams of a world where he's the Cobb of the movie and where it's possible to go into dreams, etc etc etc. The whole story is a way for him to empower himself and deal with the tragedy and how to face/explain everything to his kids.
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Now, up to this point we can be certain that in the world Cobb is in when he gets on the plane, the top will fall over. Since the top falls over in someone else’s dream, it is already a given that levels one, two, three, [[spoiler: and four]] are dreams.

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Now, up to this point we can be certain that in the world Cobb is in when he gets on the plane, the top will fall over. Since the top falls doesn't fall over in someone else’s dream, it is already a given that levels one, two, three, [[spoiler: and four]] are dreams.
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** Considering Bond has always been a big inspiration for MGS, I think we're just looking at two things that used the same inspiration.
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* Which would mean that the above passage was created by a projection of This Troper's subconscious.
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From this point of view, it doesn't matter at all, if Leos Character is in a dream inside the movies realm, since the movie itself is basicly dreamed up by Nolan himself. The best clue for that is Hans Zimmer's awesome soundtrack. The main theme of it is a slowed version of the wake-up music the characters hear inside a dream, so when we, the audience hear it, it means we are counted down to wake up. Also, as stated in the movie, we don't see the "beginning" of the plot(i.e. dream), we are more or less thrown into the movie( and any movie for that matter) and when we finally get to the movies conclusion ... it ends abruptly. Never mind if Leo's totem falls or not, we are given to understand it is useless anyway (since it is not his own). The movie is frakking brilliant.

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From this point of view, it doesn't matter at all, if Leos Character is in a dream inside the movies realm, since the movie itself is basicly dreamed up by Nolan himself. The best clue for that is Hans Zimmer's awesome soundtrack. The main theme of it is a slowed version of the wake-up music the characters hear inside a dream, so when we, the audience hear it, it means we are counted down to wake up. Also, as stated in the movie, we don't see the "beginning" of the plot(i.e. dream), we are more or less thrown into the movie( and any movie for that matter) and when we finally get to the movies conclusion ... it ends abruptly. Never mind if Leo's totem falls or not, we are given to understand it is useless anyway (since it is not his own). The movie is frakking brilliant.brilliant.

[[WMG: Ellen Page's Character in ''the Mirror'' SNL Digital Short is Ariadne in a recursive dream]]
It's all in the title. I usually hate "characters are the same because they share an actor" WMGs, but this is so damn close: [[http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/snl-digital-short-the-mirror/224715/ Sorry, Non-Americans, there isn't even a version on Youtube.]]
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*** Totally. You only see Saito pick up the phone, you have no idea who he's calling - you just assume he's "making the call" because the dream planted the idea in your mind. None of the team talk after leaving the plane - there's a nod from Eames but that's it. And how would Cobb's father (Caine) know to meet him at the airport? He was aware of the job but wasn't aware of the specifics so would have no idea that Mal was on that plane. And wasn't he teaching at a university in France at the beginning?
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** Doesn't change anything but as he is Australian I am going to say British date order.
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From this point of view, it doesn't matter at all, if Leos Character is in a dream inside the movies realm, since the movie itself is basicly dreamed up by Nolan himself. The best clue for that is Hans Zimmer's awesome soundtrack. The main theme of it is a slowed version of the wake-up music the characters hear inside a dream, so when we, the audience hear it, it means we are counted down to wake up. Also, as stated in the movie, we don't see the "beginning" of the plot, we are more or less thrown into the movie( and any movie for that matter) and when we finally get to the movies conclusion ... it ends abruptly. Never mind if Leo's totem falls or not, we are given to understand it is useless anyway (since it is not his own). The movie is frakking brilliant.

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From this point of view, it doesn't matter at all, if Leos Character is in a dream inside the movies realm, since the movie itself is basicly dreamed up by Nolan himself. The best clue for that is Hans Zimmer's awesome soundtrack. The main theme of it is a slowed version of the wake-up music the characters hear inside a dream, so when we, the audience hear it, it means we are counted down to wake up. Also, as stated in the movie, we don't see the "beginning" of the plot, plot(i.e. dream), we are more or less thrown into the movie( and any movie for that matter) and when we finally get to the movies conclusion ... it ends abruptly. Never mind if Leo's totem falls or not, we are given to understand it is useless anyway (since it is not his own). The movie is frakking brilliant.
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What was Cobb's totem before Mal died? Well, every time he is 'found' by Saito's search team, he is carrying two things: the top and a gun. I don't think anyone else touches his gun. Unlike the others, when he uses a gun it's generally the same one. Rather than drop his gun, he shoots his partner in the head.

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What was Cobb's totem before Mal died? Well, every time he is 'found' by Saito's search team, he is carrying two things: the top and a gun. I don't think anyone else touches his gun. Unlike the others, when he uses a gun it's generally the same one. Rather than drop his gun, he shoots his partner in the head.head.

[[WMG: It IS all a dream: Christopher Nolan's Dream]]
From this point of view, it doesn't matter at all, if Leos Character is in a dream inside the movies realm, since the movie itself is basicly dreamed up by Nolan himself. The best clue for that is Hans Zimmer's awesome soundtrack. The main theme of it is a slowed version of the wake-up music the characters hear inside a dream, so when we, the audience hear it, it means we are counted down to wake up. Also, as stated in the movie, we don't see the "beginning" of the plot, we are more or less thrown into the movie( and any movie for that matter) and when we finally get to the movies conclusion ... it ends abruptly. Never mind if Leo's totem falls or not, we are given to understand it is useless anyway (since it is not his own). The movie is frakking brilliant.
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The subconscious is a shared dreamspace, and in convincing Mal that the world was fake, Cobb also accidentally performed the same inception on himself. That's why he's so obsessive about the top in the real world, why we're shown him spinning the top and pointing a gun at his own head until it falls, and why certain things (the man who hosts the collective dream in Mumbasa talking about a "leap of faith" is the one that springs to mind) are shot with a lot of meaning despite reality-- these are just things that happen in life, but Cobb takes them as hints that he's still dreaming because of the inception, like when you learn a new vocab word and suddenly you see it everywhere. Mal in the other levels of the dream just represents Cobb's guilt over her death and is thus {{yandere}}, but the Mal in limbo represents the inception as well, as she tries to convince him that his world is no more real than limbo. (You could also say that Ariadne shooting this Mal is undoing the inception, but I think that Cobb undoes it himself in his "shade" speech.) So the final shot, like a lot of people have said, is about him finally recognizing reality as itself.

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The subconscious is a shared dreamspace, and in convincing Mal that the world was fake, Cobb also accidentally performed the same inception on himself. That's why he's so obsessive about the top in the real world, why we're shown him spinning the top and pointing a gun at his own head until it falls, and why certain things (the man who hosts the collective dream in Mumbasa talking about a "leap of faith" is the one that springs to mind) are shot with a lot of meaning despite reality-- these are just things that happen in life, but Cobb takes them as hints that he's still dreaming because of the inception, like when you learn a new vocab word and suddenly you see it everywhere. Mal in the other levels of the dream just represents Cobb's guilt over her death and is thus {{yandere}}, but the Mal in limbo represents the inception as well, as she tries to convince him that his world is no more real than limbo. (You could also say that Ariadne shooting this Mal is undoing the inception, but I think that Cobb undoes it himself in his "shade" speech.) So the final shot, like a lot of people have said, is about him finally recognizing reality as itself.itself.

[[WMG: The gun was Cobb's totem]]
What was Cobb's totem before Mal died? Well, every time he is 'found' by Saito's search team, he is carrying two things: the top and a gun. I don't think anyone else touches his gun. Unlike the others, when he uses a gun it's generally the same one. Rather than drop his gun, he shoots his partner in the head.
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**[[spoiler:This theory is supported by some clever dream metaphors sprinkled through the film, (Cobb getting stuck in the alleyway in Mumbai, calling on the dream archetype of being chased by someone and you can't get away, for example. The HUGE one, though, is where they attempt the inception: On a plane. What's a subject for a fairly stereotypical dream? Flight.]]


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*****[[spoiler:This theory is supported by some clever dream metaphors sprinkled through the film, (Cobb getting stuck in the alleyway in Mumbai, calling on the dream archetype of being chased by someone and you can't get away, for example. The HUGE one, though, is where they attempt the inception: On a plane. What's a subject for a fairly stereotypical dream? Flight.]]
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** Another thing worth mentioning: After, or perhaps during (someone else can confirm the exact timing) Cobb's cathartic confrontation with Mal in Limbo, his ring disappears.

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