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[[WMG: Alternatively, if a sequel is ever made, Nicholas and Danny die, and they end up in Valhalla as their afterlife to prepare to fight against monsters in Ragnarok.]]



* Act 3: A domestic terrorist cell of Neo-Nazis that comprise of hostile and racist thugs from Canada, Britain, and the United States.

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* Act 3: A domestic terrorist cell of Neo-Nazis that comprise of hostile and racist thugs from Canada, Britain, and the United States.States.

[[WMG: If there ever is a sequel, the main villain will be a serial killer with a swan gimmick.]]
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* Perhaps not ''Everyone'' but [[spoiler: the neighborhood watch wasn't confirmed to survive when they could have been in lock up]].

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* Building on this, The reason the Inspector didn't just outright tell Angel his reasons for sending Angel to Sandford... Popwell, The Inspector sent him first, it's implied that Popwell was an investigator on par with Angel,and just as serious, and he figured it all out, but unlike Angel, Popwell was getting on in years and didn't bond with Danny like Angel did, but also like Angel, Didn't suspect Frank, so when he brought his findings to Frank, he was easily killed, prompting the Inspector to send Angel, but not telling Angel why, so Sandford would think the Metropolitan Police didn't suspect anything, and so that Angel wouldn't let slip to Frank why he was there, as the Inspector suspected that Popwells disappearance had to do with a mole within Sandford Police Service, Angel came up with the exact same conclusions as Popwell, but was younger, fitter and had bonded with Danny which gave him, luckily, an ally to be fake killed by and return.
* One problem, though; sending an officer essentially undercover to investigate a potentially lethal conspiracy possibly involving fellow officers without ''actually telling him what's up'' is, at the very least, incredibly negligent.
* My theory as to why the Inspector didn't tell Angel was because he knew there was something fishy about Popwell's disappearance, and he decided to pull a bit of a Batman Gambit, if you will: Keep Angel in the dark, keeping him from having a tainted view of the village, and get a detailed explanation.

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* Building on this, The reason the Inspector didn't just outright tell Angel his reasons for sending Angel him to Sandford... Sandford was that ''he wasn't the first officer he'd sent there''. The first was Sergeant Popwell, The Inspector sent him first, it's who is implied that Popwell was to have been an investigator on par with Angel,and Angel, and just as serious, and he serious. He figured it all out, but unlike as he was older than Angel, Popwell was getting on in years and he didn't bond with Danny like Angel did, but also like did and was less physically fit. Like Angel, Didn't he didn't suspect Frank, so when he brought reported his findings to Frank, him, he was easily killed, prompting killed (his relative lack of physical fitness preventing him from escaping). His disappearance prompted the Inspector to send Angel, but not telling Angel why, ''he didn't give him the full story'' so that the locals in Sandford would think the Metropolitan Police didn't suspect anything, and so that Angel wouldn't let slip to Frank why he was there, as there -- the Inspector suspected having his suspicions that Popwells disappearance had to do with there was a mole within the Sandford Police Service, Police. As it happened, Angel came up with the exact same conclusions as Popwell, but was younger, fitter and had bonded with Danny which gave him, luckily, an ally to be fake killed by and return.
* One problem, though; sending an officer essentially undercover to investigate a potentially lethal conspiracy possibly involving fellow officers without ''actually ''without actually telling him what's up'' is, at the very least, incredibly negligent.
* My theory as to why the Inspector didn't tell Angel was because he knew there was something fishy about Popwell's disappearance, and he decided to pull a bit of a Batman Gambit, BatmanGambit, if you will: Keep will -- keep Angel in the dark, keeping him from having a tainted view of the village, and get a detailed explanation.




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[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending]].]]

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[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending]].]]
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[[WMG: The inspector suspected something was wrong in Sandford, but he couldn't prove it.]]

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[[WMG: The inspector suspected something was wrong in Sandford, but he couldn't prove it.]]it]]



[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending.]]

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[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending.ending]].]]
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[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending]].]]

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[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending]].]]]]

[[WMG: If there ever is a sequel, there will be three main villains in the three acts of the movie.]]
* Act 1: A gang of Yardies.
* Act 2: A violent cult that worships Frank Butterman.
* Act 3: A domestic terrorist cell of Neo-Nazis that comprise of hostile and racist thugs from Canada, Britain, and the United States.
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[[WMG: Frank was abusive towards Danny when Danny was a kid.]]
Frank mentions in the church scene that he was like Nicholas once, His obsession could have even played a role in the division between him and the rest of his family at first, and given what we know of what became of Irene Butterman, Frank would take his lengths a step further and train Danny rigorously, so he could grow up to be an obedient yes man once he entered the force, just like his old man.

Frank and the rest of the NWA could have had their way if more were to carry on their ways, as is the case with Micheal.

With Danny however, as soon as he meets another good cop closer to his age, it is only then that Danny begins to doubt his own father, to the point that he starts acting out, even faking Nicholas’s death. And it is only when he could hear Nicholas reveal the truth to him that he is no longer capable of denying any of the “activities” -personal or not- that his father and the rest of the NWA had been up to since.
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* My theory as to why the Inspector didn't tell Angel was because he knew there was something fishy about Popwell's disappearance, and he decided to pull a bit of a Batman Gambit, if you will: Keep Angel in the dark, keeping him from having a tainted view of the village, and get a detailed explanation.
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[[WMG: The only reason why the NWA kept Michael around was only to look inclusive.]]

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[[WMG: The only reason why the NWA kept Michael around was only to look inclusive.]]
[[WMG: Everyone actually [[spoiler: died from the naval mine detonation in the ending]].
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* One problem, though; sending an officer essentially undercover to investigate a potentially lethal conspiracy possibly involving fellow officers without ''actually telling him what's up'' is, at the very least, incredibly negligent.
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Irene wanted to move away from Sandford, she was depressed and she recognized that her "dedication" to the Best Village competition was actually hurting her mental health, the NWA (at the time didn't contain Inspector Butterman) 1) didn't want some other village stealing Irenes talent, and 2) her taking away their friendly and charming Inspector, so, when they Gypsies moved in they had their excuse, as Irene was still "dedicated" to the Village comptetition, one last Win before leaving, driving home one night the NWA killed her, staged it to look like a suicide, which the NWA used to convince Inspector Butterman to join their crusade.

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Irene wanted to move away from Sandford, she was depressed and she recognized that her "dedication" to the Best Village competition was actually hurting her mental health, the NWA (at the time didn't contain Inspector Butterman) 1) didn't want some other village stealing Irenes talent, and 2) her taking away their friendly and charming Inspector, so, when they Gypsies moved in they had their excuse, as Irene was still "dedicated" to the Village comptetition, one last Win before leaving, driving home one night the NWA killed her, staged it to look like a suicide, which the NWA used to convince Inspector Butterman to join their crusade.crusade.

[[WMG: The only reason why the NWA kept Michael around was only to look inclusive.]]
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[[WMG: Popwell was sent to Sanford like Angel was, only to be killed because he told Frank about what was happening.]]

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[[WMG: Popwell was sent to Sanford like Angel was, only to be killed because he told Frank about what was happening.]]]]

[[WMG: The NWA killed Irene Butterman]]
Irene wanted to move away from Sandford, she was depressed and she recognized that her "dedication" to the Best Village competition was actually hurting her mental health, the NWA (at the time didn't contain Inspector Butterman) 1) didn't want some other village stealing Irenes talent, and 2) her taking away their friendly and charming Inspector, so, when they Gypsies moved in they had their excuse, as Irene was still "dedicated" to the Village comptetition, one last Win before leaving, driving home one night the NWA killed her, staged it to look like a suicide, which the NWA used to convince Inspector Butterman to join their crusade.
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** That's actually a very good theory.
** It would explain why they want Nick back at the end and why he gets the call from London that he never replied to.

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** * That's actually a very good theory.
** * It would explain why they want Nick back at the end and why he gets the call from London that he never replied to.
* Building on this, The reason the Inspector didn't just outright tell Angel his reasons for sending Angel to Sandford... Popwell, The Inspector sent him first, it's implied that Popwell was an investigator on par with Angel,and just as serious, and he figured it all out, but unlike Angel, Popwell was getting on in years and didn't bond with Danny like Angel did, but also like Angel, Didn't suspect Frank, so when he brought his findings to Frank, he was easily killed, prompting the Inspector to send Angel, but not telling Angel why, so Sandford would think the Metropolitan Police didn't suspect anything, and so that Angel wouldn't let slip to Frank why he was there, as the Inspector suspected that Popwells disappearance had to do with a mole within Sandford Police Service, Angel came up with the exact same conclusions as Popwell, but was younger, fitter and had bonded with Danny which gave him, luckily, an ally to be fake killed by and return.
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[[WMG: Pomwell was sent to Sanford like Angel was, only to be killed because he told Frank about what was happening.]]

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[[WMG: Pomwell Popwell was sent to Sanford like Angel was, only to be killed because he told Frank about what was happening.]]
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[[WMG: After the events of Hot Fuzz, Lurch was sent to Broadmoor.]]

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[[WMG: After the events of Hot Fuzz, Lurch was sent to Broadmoor.]]

[[WMG: Pomwell was sent to Sanford like Angel was, only to be killed because he told Frank about what was happening.
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** And to add to the hilarity, The Crimson Bolt will assist Nicholas and Danny in taking down Brandon Breyer.

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** And to add to the hilarity, The Crimson Bolt will assist Nicholas and Danny in taking down Brandon Breyer.Breyer.

[[WMG: After the events of Hot Fuzz, Lurch was sent to Broadmoor.]]
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** And to add to the hilarity, The Crimson Bolt will assist Nicholas and Danny take down Brandon Breyer.

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** And to add to the hilarity, The Crimson Bolt will assist Nicholas and Danny take in taking down Brandon Breyer.
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* To make matters worse, the NWA escapes prison and gains superpowers of their own.

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* To make matters worse, the NWA escapes prison and gains superpowers of their own.own.
** And to add to the hilarity, The Crimson Bolt will assist Nicholas and Danny take down Brandon Breyer.
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They knew the NWA were murdering people but couldn't prove anything, so they would commit their own rebellious acts. But they kept their faces hidden since the NWA couldn't just murder every teenager in town, which is why the always look so hidden and mysterious.

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They knew the NWA were murdering people but couldn't prove anything, so they would commit their own rebellious acts. But they kept their faces hidden since the NWA couldn't just murder every teenager in town, which is why the always look so hidden and mysterious.mysterious.

[[WMG: Hot Fuzz is set in the same universe at Brightburn.]]
And Nicholas and Danny will use guns, shells, bullets, and explosives made out of Brandon's Kryptonite expy to battle Brandon.
* To make matters worse, the NWA escapes prison and gains superpowers of their own.
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** It would explain why they want Nick back at the end and why he gets the call from London that he never replied to.
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Although it is implied that Doris spouted sexual innuendos even before Nicholas was a member of the Sanford Police Service, she does walk towards Angel with a flirtatious smile on her face, stands incredibly close to Angel face-to-face, and to top it all off she uses her best sexy voice towards Angel all at the exact same time in the scene where she is introduced to Angel, as though she was flirting with him (or at least was trying to).

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Although it is implied that Doris spouted sexual innuendos even before Nicholas was a member of the Sanford Police Service, she does walk towards Angel with a flirtatious smile on her face, stands incredibly close to Angel face-to-face, and to top it all off she uses her best sexy voice towards Angel all at the exact same time in the scene where she is introduced to Angel, as though she was flirting with him (or at least was trying to).to).

[[WMG: The teenage hoodlums were aware of the NWA]]
They knew the NWA were murdering people but couldn't prove anything, so they would commit their own rebellious acts. But they kept their faces hidden since the NWA couldn't just murder every teenager in town, which is why the always look so hidden and mysterious.
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Frank states that he'd "never seen such dedication" when she threw herself into the Village of the Year competiton. Though we know next to nothing about her, it seems it was rather sudden and unusual for her to throw herself wholeheartedly into the work, and for her to kill herself upon one failure, suggests that she was staking her wellbeing on one thing, to the point of obsession.

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Frank states that he'd "never seen such dedication" when she threw herself into the Village of the Year competiton. Though we know next to nothing about her, it seems it was rather sudden and unusual for her to throw herself wholeheartedly into the work, and for her to kill herself upon one failure, suggests that she was staking her wellbeing on one thing, to the point of obsession.obsession.

[[WMG: Doris Thatcher and Nicholas Angel would have been a couple had there been sequels]]
Although it is implied that Doris spouted sexual innuendos even before Nicholas was a member of the Sanford Police Service, she does walk towards Angel with a flirtatious smile on her face, stands incredibly close to Angel face-to-face, and to top it all off she uses her best sexy voice towards Angel all at the exact same time in the scene where she is introduced to Angel, as though she was flirting with him (or at least was trying to).
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It would explain where he "found" all that firepower. And why he was so blase about it.

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It would explain where he "found" all that firepower. And why he was so blase about it.it.

[[WMG: Irene was suffering for a while before from mental illness, leading to her suicide.]]
Frank states that he'd "never seen such dedication" when she threw herself into the Village of the Year competiton. Though we know next to nothing about her, it seems it was rather sudden and unusual for her to throw herself wholeheartedly into the work, and for her to kill herself upon one failure, suggests that she was staking her wellbeing on one thing, to the point of obsession.
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** That's actually a very good theory.
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The NWA assumed that the easiest way to get rid of their guns was to just dump them. Since it apparently worked the first time, they continued dumping them in the same spot. When the found Webley had come across their guns, they realized they were risking their cover being blown. They didn't kill him because he was cutting down hedges, they killed him because he almost got them caught.

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The NWA assumed that the easiest way to get rid of their guns was to just dump them. Since it apparently worked the first time, they continued dumping them in the same spot. When the found Webley had come across their guns, they realized they were risking their cover being blown. They didn't kill him because he was cutting down hedges, they killed him because he almost got them caught.caught.

[[WMG: Webley is some kind of retired Commando/Mercenary]]
It would explain where he "found" all that firepower. And why he was so blase about it.
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The NWA assumed that the easiest way to get rid of their guns was to just dump them. Since it apparently worked the first time, they continued dumping them in the same spot. When the found Webley had come across their guns, they realized they were risking their cover being blown. They didn't kill him because he was cutting down hedges, but because he almost got them caught.

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The NWA assumed that the easiest way to get rid of their guns was to just dump them. Since it apparently worked the first time, they continued dumping them in the same spot. When the found Webley had come across their guns, they realized they were risking their cover being blown. They didn't kill him because he was cutting down hedges, but they killed him because he almost got them caught.
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Who else would he send but the best policeman (sorry, police officer) in the service?

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Who else would he send but the best policeman (sorry, police officer) in the service?service?

[[WMG: The guns that Webley "found" were used and disposed of by the NWA]]
The NWA assumed that the easiest way to get rid of their guns was to just dump them. Since it apparently worked the first time, they continued dumping them in the same spot. When the found Webley had come across their guns, they realized they were risking their cover being blown. They didn't kill him because he was cutting down hedges, but because he almost got them caught.
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The plan only fails once Nicholas keeps going after his first theory failed. It's at this point that the NWA realise that Angel's not going to let this go, no matter what, and have to resort to their tried-and-true plan B-namely, to kill him and MakeItLookLikeAnAccident. It all fits in with what happens in the movie-and if it were true, it would add a whole new, intriguing facet to Skinner's character.

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The plan only fails once Nicholas keeps going after his first theory failed. It's at this point that the NWA realise that Angel's not going to let this go, no matter what, and have to resort to their tried-and-true plan B-namely, to kill him and MakeItLookLikeAnAccident. It all fits in with what happens in the movie-and if it were true, it would add a whole new, intriguing facet to Skinner's character.character.

[[WMG: The inspector suspected something was wrong in Sandford, but he couldn't prove it.]]
Who else would he send but the best policeman (sorry, police officer) in the service?
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[[WMG: Skinner was an intentional decoy the entire time.]]
From an out-of-universe perspective, we know that Simon Skinner is set up as a subverted RedHerring-that is, he's so obviously the killer, then it turns out he isn't, but then it turns out he's part of the organisation that is. However, this does leave a nagging question-if Skinner is part of an organisation that doesn't want to make it obvious that they're murdering people, why does he act so obviously evil all the time?

The answer to this lies in the backstory. The NWA were forced to kill Sergeant Popwell after he deduced what was actually going on. It would be logical for them to realise that this situation would likely pop up in the future, seeing as it already happened once. They also can't just kill anyone in the same position as Popwell, as even the dimwitted police force of the town could probably put two and two together once anyone who questions the "accidents" mysteriously dies in one. So, they needed a way to draw attention away from the truth of the murders.

Enter Skinner.

Simply put, Skinner begins acting as ObviouslyEvil as possible. This attracts the suspicion of anyone in the same position that Popwell was in, and also acts as a set of blinders, preventing them from realising that more than one person was involved. They focus all of their attention on Skinner, but when it comes time to prove their theories, suddenly, Skinner has alibi after alibi and none of the evidence points to him.

Not only does this help convince the other police further that the murders were really accidents, it also demoralises the officer in question, making them doubt the idea as well. They stop pursuing the investigation, everyone involved believes even more strongly that the deaths were accidental, and life continues as usual.

All of the above happens to Angel throughout the film, step-by-step. It's also backed up by the fact that none of the NWA have any sort of hostile inclination towards him after he accuses Skinner (except possibly Skinner himself-though it can be construed as smugness, or the fact that he just got accused of murder)-instead, they simply ask him how the investigation is going-helping to reaffirm that the plan is working.

The plan only fails once Nicholas keeps going after his first theory failed. It's at this point that the NWA realise that Angel's not going to let this go, no matter what, and have to resort to their tried-and-true plan B-namely, to kill him and MakeItLookLikeAnAccident. It all fits in with what happens in the movie-and if it were true, it would add a whole new, intriguing facet to Skinner's character.

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