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*** "Boys", sure, but "junior"?
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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of NightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.

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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel in a Disney film since [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.
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[[WMG: The prophecy about Hercules defeating Hades was self-fulfilling.]]
Since Hades was trying to recruit the river centaur for what he claims is his assault on Mt. Olympus, presumably all the other monsters that Hades had at his disposal would've been used for attacking Mt. Olympus, in addition to the Titans. Hercules had little trouble killing them in one-on-one combat, but if he had to face them all at the same time at Mt. Olympus, he wouldn't have stood a chance.
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[[WMG: Meg selling her soul made her invulnerable]]
* She sold her soul to Hades. He's always losing his temper and I imagined that she was, like Pain and Panic, in some way immune to his flames. She dodges because, like them, burning hurts her. Heckaroonies, Hades blows the top off a mountain at one point and she doesn't get a scratch, and I do NOT believe that Hades was restrained enough to only fry Pain and Panic. Anyway, as soon as she got her soul back, she was vulnerable again. Invulnerability is clearly not an adequate trade for being at Hades' beck and call for the rest of your life.

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[[WMG: Meg selling her soul made her invulnerable]]
invulnerable - AND immortal]]
* She sold her soul to Hades. He's always losing his temper and I imagined that she was, like Pain and Panic, in some way immune to his flames. She dodges because, like them, burning hurts her. Heckaroonies, Hades blows the top off a mountain at one point and she doesn't get a scratch, and I do NOT believe that Hades was restrained enough to only fry Pain and Panic.
* On the second part, I sometimes suspected that after selling her soul to Hades, she had been alive for years at the same age, which also added to her embitterment - and that Pain and Panic were in a similar situation.
Anyway, as soon as she got her soul back, she was vulnerable mortal again. Invulnerability Immortality is clearly not an adequate trade for being at Hades' beck and call for the rest of your life.
so great when you're gonna spend it in enslavement to a JerkAss.
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** Actually, if we're honest, young women will call young men 'boys' and so on even when they're a few years older than them. It's a girl thing.
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** You see Hades getting up close to Meg and invading her personal space a couple of times, which she's clearly uncomfortable with. I always suspected he was one of the guys who didn't take no for an answer, and as I got older and more cynical, added some rape to the equasion.

[[WMG: Meg selling her soul made her invulnerable]]
* She sold her soul to Hades. He's always losing his temper and I imagined that she was, like Pain and Panic, in some way immune to his flames. She dodges because, like them, burning hurts her. Heckaroonies, Hades blows the top off a mountain at one point and she doesn't get a scratch, and I do NOT believe that Hades was restrained enough to only fry Pain and Panic. Anyway, as soon as she got her soul back, she was vulnerable again. Invulnerability is clearly not an adequate trade for being at Hades' beck and call for the rest of your life.
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**** Fine, but that doesn't change the fact that in the movie Meg is clearly older than Hercules, as explained above. So in the movie's canon this is still true, while in the the series canon Meg might be the same age as Herc.
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* The whole selling your soul just to get dumped is enough to account for the bitterness, but it's also implied that she's had some not so great experiences with dudes who won't take no for an answer.
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*** I don't remember the series that well, but I'm pretty sure at the end of the episode with Meg, both Herc and Meg get doused with that water that makes them forget, which is why they don't remember meeting each other later.
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** I haven't seen the series, but if Hercules meets her in school, clearly the series takes place in another continuity, as in the movie Herc and Meg meet for the first time when he saves her from the centaur. So there's contradiction, just different continuities.

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** I haven't seen the series, but if Hercules meets her in school, clearly the series takes place in another continuity, as in the movie Herc and Meg meet for the first time when he saves her from the centaur. So there's no contradiction, just different continuities.

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** The series contradicts this because Meg appears as NewTransferStudent at Herc's school.

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** * The series contradicts this because Meg appears as NewTransferStudent at Herc's school. school.
** I haven't seen the series, but if Hercules meets her in school, clearly the series takes place in another continuity, as in the movie Herc and Meg meet for the first time when he saves her from the centaur. So there's contradiction, just different continuities.
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** The series contradicts this because Meg appears as NewTransferStudent at Herc's school.
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When they first meet, Meg calls Hercules "junior", implying that he's clearly younger than her. At that point, Hercules must be something like 16 or 17; the time difference between the beginning of the movie (where Hercules is a baby) and the finale is said to be 18 years, and the heroic tasks and fame-building Hercules does between the first meeting with Meg and the finale must've taken him at least a year. Meg, on the other hand, is portrayed as an adult woman right from the start. She doesn't talk or act like a teenager, and her mannerisms and voice are much more mature than Hercules'. Also, she has already been in an adult relationship with a guy, the one for whom she sold her soul to Hades. And the familiar tone with which Hades and Meg talk to each other suggests that their deal has been going on for quite some time already, it's not something that happened in the recent past. Now, all this information implies Meg is about 10 years older than Hercules, she's probably in her late twenties or early thirties.

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When they first meet, Meg calls Hercules "junior", implying that he's clearly younger which suggests she's notably older than her.him. At that point, Hercules must be something like 16 or 17; the time difference between the beginning of the movie (where Hercules is a baby) and the finale is said to be 18 years, and the heroic tasks and fame-building Hercules does between the first meeting with Meg and the finale must've taken him at least a year. Meg, on the other hand, is portrayed as an adult woman right from the start. She doesn't talk or act like a teenager, and her mannerisms and voice are much more mature than Hercules'. Also, she has already been in an adult relationship with a guy, the one for whom she sold her soul to Hades. And the familiar tone with which Hades and Meg talk to each other suggests that their deal has been going on for quite some time already, it's not something that happened in the recent past. Now, all this information implies Meg is about 10 years older than Hercules, Hercules; she's probably in her late twenties or early thirties.
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Zeus needed someone to run the Underworld, but couldn't just let Hades go. So he asks Persephone to do it, since it's not like she's doing anything during Winter anyway.

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Zeus needed someone to run the Underworld, but couldn't just let Hades go. So he asks Persephone to do it, since it's not like she's doing anything during Winter anyway.anyway.

[[WMG: Meg is much older than Hercules.]]
When they first meet, Meg calls Hercules "junior", implying that he's clearly younger than her. At that point, Hercules must be something like 16 or 17; the time difference between the beginning of the movie (where Hercules is a baby) and the finale is said to be 18 years, and the heroic tasks and fame-building Hercules does between the first meeting with Meg and the finale must've taken him at least a year. Meg, on the other hand, is portrayed as an adult woman right from the start. She doesn't talk or act like a teenager, and her mannerisms and voice are much more mature than Hercules'. Also, she has already been in an adult relationship with a guy, the one for whom she sold her soul to Hades. And the familiar tone with which Hades and Meg talk to each other suggests that their deal has been going on for quite some time already, it's not something that happened in the recent past. Now, all this information implies Meg is about 10 years older than Hercules, she's probably in her late twenties or early thirties.

Note that I'm not saying there's something wrong with this age difference. On the contrary, it's refreshing to see a couple in a Hollywood movie who's age difference goes this way, instead of the usual older guy/younger woman pairing.
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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of NightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.

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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of NightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.
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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.

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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel NightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.

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Because the Titans are totally Ogrémoch, Yan-C-Bin, Cryonax and Imix.

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Because the Titans are totally Ogrémoch, Yan-C-Bin, Cryonax and Imix.Imix.

[[WMG: Zeus put Persephone in charge of the Underworld.]]
Zeus needed someone to run the Underworld, but couldn't just let Hades go. So he asks Persephone to do it, since it's not like she's doing anything during Winter anyway.
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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.

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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.metal.

[[WMG: The filmmakers were fans of ''DungeonsAndDragons''.]]
Because the Titans are totally Ogrémoch, Yan-C-Bin, Cryonax and Imix.
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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]].

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Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]].Ursula]], and it would have been fucking metal.
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* She didn't just save that guy's life, she ''sold her soul for him''. And he dumped her anyway. For me, that's quite enough to be bitter. Also, I think, it's not before that event she became so cynical, but later, while she worked for Hades. Judging by the episode with Nessus the Centaur, her tasks were less than pleasant and she didn't meet many nice people who could've restored her faith in humanity.

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* She didn't just save that guy's life, she ''sold her soul for him''. And he dumped her anyway. For me, that's quite enough to be bitter. Also, I think, it's not before that event she became so cynical, but later, while she worked for Hades. Judging by the episode with Nessus the Centaur, her tasks were less than pleasant and she didn't meet many nice people who could've restored her faith in humanity.humanity.

[[WMG: The film was originally planned to have Typhon as the monster unleashed by Hades, and Ares would have been the BigBad.]]
Consider this: in the original myths, Typhon was one of the few monsters that scares Zeus, and Ares' two minions, Phobos and Daemos, were repurposed into [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Pain and Panic]]. As much as I like the film in its existing state, my inner mythology buff would have loved the film even more if this is how it ended up - Typhon could be the biggest example of HighOctaneNightmareFuel in a Disney film since [[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]].
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* She didn't just save that guy's life, she ''sold her soul for him''. And he dumped her anyway. For me, that's quite enough to be bitter.

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* She didn't just save that guy's life, she ''sold her soul for him''. And he dumped her anyway. For me, that's quite enough to be bitter. Also, I think, it's not before that event she became so cynical, but later, while she worked for Hades. Judging by the episode with Nessus the Centaur, her tasks were less than pleasant and she didn't meet many nice people who could've restored her faith in humanity.
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** Agreed, this is an incredibly misguided argument.

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** Agreed, this is an incredibly misguided argument.argument.
* She didn't just save that guy's life, she ''sold her soul for him''. And he dumped her anyway. For me, that's quite enough to be bitter.
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* What? Just... What?

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* What? Just... What?What?
** Agreed, this is an incredibly misguided argument.
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* [[FridgeBrilliance This is genius.]] Continuing on this theory, this is Zeus' attempt to survive in the Christian era. Thus why it's HijackedByJesus: partly to fit in with conservatives, and partly to enter the wonderful and powerful world of Disney. Of course, one wonders how painful it would be for him to fit in [[ValuesDissonance with the radical change in values.]]
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yeah i know her boyfriend deserted her even though she saved his life, but in movie, that wasn't enough to explain her bitterness in the movie. I have feeling before that, she was already having problems in her life with men(she seemed real bitter about men in general). in some way, her distrust in men is similar to the man-hating lesbian(maybe she's bi).

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yeah i know her boyfriend deserted her even though she saved his life, but in movie, that wasn't enough to explain her bitterness in the movie. I have feeling before that, she was already having problems in her life with men(she seemed real bitter about men in general). in some way, her distrust in men is similar to the man-hating lesbian(maybe she's bi).bi).
* What? Just... What?
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* I was watching the movie today and came to the same conclusion. This story was a creation of Zeus. It has to be in order to get SO much wrong.

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* I was watching the movie today and came to the same conclusion. This story was a creation of Zeus. It has to be in order to get SO much wrong.wrong.

[[WMG: Megara has more issues in her life than what's revealed in the movie]]
yeah i know her boyfriend deserted her even though she saved his life, but in movie, that wasn't enough to explain her bitterness in the movie. I have feeling before that, she was already having problems in her life with men(she seemed real bitter about men in general). in some way, her distrust in men is similar to the man-hating lesbian(maybe she's bi).
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* I was watching the movie today and came to the same conclusion. This story was a creation of Zeus. It has to be in order to get SO much wrong,

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* I was watching the movie today and came to the same conclusion. This story was a creation of Zeus. It has to be in order to get SO much wrong,wrong.
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In some stories the end of the Age of Heroes (specifically the Trojan War) was engineered by Zeus to get rid of his illegitimate children, so it's not like this is beneath him. Zeus overthrowing the Titans in the backstory is portrayed as unambiguously good when in the original myth it brought about the end of the Golden Age. The Titans are portrayed as inhuman forces of nature instead of being more or less the same as the Olympians. Hercules is now Hera's child, which eliminates the cheating Zeus part of the story. Since that would mean Hercules is all god we need a reason for him to not be in Olympus, hence the kidnapping and the "you need to become a true hero" BS. Since it wouldn't make sense for his own mother to be his enemy, Hera gets replaced with Hades, who can't exactly leave the underworld to give his side of the story. Hades also replaces Gaia in the Titan rebellion story to cover up the complicated relationship between the Olympians and their ancestors.

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In some stories the end of the Age of Heroes (specifically the Trojan War) was engineered by Zeus to get rid of his illegitimate children, so it's not like this is beneath him. Zeus overthrowing the Titans in the backstory is portrayed as unambiguously good when in the original myth it brought about the end of the Golden Age. The Titans are portrayed as inhuman forces of nature instead of being more or less the same as the Olympians. Hercules is now Hera's child, which eliminates the cheating Zeus part of the story. Since that would mean Hercules is all god we need a reason for him to not be in Olympus, hence the kidnapping and the "you need to become a true hero" BS. Since it wouldn't make sense for his own mother to be his enemy, Hera gets replaced with Hades, who can't exactly leave the underworld to give his side of the story. Hades also replaces Gaia in the Titan rebellion story to cover up the complicated relationship between the Olympians and their ancestors.ancestors.
*I was watching the movie today and came to the same conclusion. This story was a creation of Zeus. It has to be in order to get SO much wrong,
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In some stories the end of the Age of Heroes (specifically the Trojan War) was engineered by Zeus to get rid of his illegitimate children, so it's not like this is beneath him. Zeus overthrowing the Titans in the backstory is portrayed as unambiguously good when in the original myth it brought about the end of the Golden Age. The Titans are portrayed as inhuman forces of nature instead of being more or less the same as the Olympians. Hercules is now Hera's child, which eliminates the cheating Zeus part of the story. Since it wouldn't make sense for his own mother to be his enemy, Hera gets replaced with Hades, who can't exactly leave the underworld to give his side of the story. Hades also replaces Gaia in the Titan rebellion story to cover up the complicated relationship between the Olympians and their ancestors.

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In some stories the end of the Age of Heroes (specifically the Trojan War) was engineered by Zeus to get rid of his illegitimate children, so it's not like this is beneath him. Zeus overthrowing the Titans in the backstory is portrayed as unambiguously good when in the original myth it brought about the end of the Golden Age. The Titans are portrayed as inhuman forces of nature instead of being more or less the same as the Olympians. Hercules is now Hera's child, which eliminates the cheating Zeus part of the story. Since that would mean Hercules is all god we need a reason for him to not be in Olympus, hence the kidnapping and the "you need to become a true hero" BS. Since it wouldn't make sense for his own mother to be his enemy, Hera gets replaced with Hades, who can't exactly leave the underworld to give his side of the story. Hades also replaces Gaia in the Titan rebellion story to cover up the complicated relationship between the Olympians and their ancestors.
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[[WMG: The whole story is historical revisionism by Zeus himself.]]

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[[WMG: The whole story movie is historical revisionism by Zeus himself.]]

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