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29th Oct '16 6:15:17 PM nombretomado
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[[HarryPotterandtheMethodsofRationality In the first year no less. Then Hermione go Malfoy pregnant.]]

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[[HarryPotterandtheMethodsofRationality [[Fanfic/HarryPotterandtheMethodsofRationality In the first year no less. Then Hermione go Malfoy pregnant.]]
25th Sep '16 1:21:26 PM Mazzafraz
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Lockhart cast a spell so that any female with even the barest interest in men would be infatuated with him when he smiled. Which means among all his other false plaudits, he didn't even really deserve the award for "Most Charming Smile" unless you go for a literal definition of "charming". Even while institutionalized and revealed as a fraud, the nurses seem fond of him.

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Lockhart cast a spell so that any female with even the barest interest in men would be infatuated with him when he smiled. Which means among all his other false plaudits, he didn't even really deserve the award for "Most Charming Smile" unless you go for a literal definition of "charming". Even while institutionalized and revealed as a fraud, the nurses seem fond of him.him.


[[WMG: The House of Black never associated with the House of Gaunt (at least not publicly).]]
It is notable that despite Sirius' claim that all the pure-blood families are related in some way, the House of Gaunt is never once mentioned on the Black Family Tree (or at least not noticed or spoken aloud). It's possible that EveryoneHasStandards is at play with the Black family; even though the Blacks and Gaunts are pure-blood supremacist families, it makes sense that the aristocratic House of Black wouldn't want to be associated with the poverty-stricken, violent, inbred cesspool that is the House of Gaunt.
23rd Feb '16 7:44:48 AM Oddstar6
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** This is just speculation, but it might have something to do with how the movie version of Snape was a quite a different character from the book version. In the movies, we never really see Snape bullying Harry or anyone else; he comes across as austere and strict, but never really bullying. We never see him call Lily or anyone else a "mudblood", or talking about the importance of blood purity, or anything of the sort. What we do see is him being bullied by James and the other Marauders for no reason whatsoever. We also see him put himself between Harry, Hermione and Ron and an out-of-control werewolf. For people who have only seen the movies, it can be easy to have more sympathy for Severus and for James. Even for people who have read the books, the movies can heavily influence their perceptions of the characters.

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** This is just speculation, but it might have something to do with how the movie version of Snape was a quite a different character from the book version. In the movies, we never really see Snape bullying Harry or anyone else; he comes across as austere and strict, but never really bullying. We never see him call Lily or anyone else a "mudblood", or talking about the importance of blood purity, or anything of the sort. What we do see is him being bullied by James and the other Marauders for no reason whatsoever. We also see him put himself between Harry, Hermione and Ron and an out-of-control werewolf. For people who have only seen the movies, it can be easy to have more sympathy for Severus and than for James. Even for people who have read the books, the movies can heavily influence their perceptions of the characters.
11th Jan '16 12:38:11 PM Oddstar6
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** This is just speculation, but it might have something to do with how the movie version of Snape was a quite a different character from the book version. In the movies, we never really see Snape bullying Harry or anyone else; he comes across as austere and strict, but never really bullying. We never see him call Lily or anyone else a "mudblood", or talking about the importance of blood purity, or anything of the sort. What we do see is him being bullied by James and the other Marauders for no reason whatsoever. We also see him put himself between Harry, Hermione and Ron and an out-of-control werewolf. For people who have only seen the movies, it can be easy to have more sympathy for Severus and for James. Even for people who have read the books, the movies can heavily influence their perceptions of the characters.
29th Dec '15 8:59:19 PM Goldfritha
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** He didn't need to care about Snape to delude himself. All he needed was to care that his plan had fallen through.
15th Dec '15 6:45:51 PM xXwindsofchangeXx
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* Lavender Brown - debate on whether she died in the book ''and'' the film aside, she was pretty and very, ''very'' clingy - not a good combination for a girl wishing to remain a virgin...if she indeed wanted to remain a virgin, because her behavior says different. Even if she didn't do it with Ron (which everyone assumes she didn't, but the book never explicitly affirms nor denies), it's hard to imagine that she didn't get her claws into another equally hormone-addled teenage boy in the year-and-change between her and Ron breaking up and her death.
** Possible, but I find the wording of this a bit awkward. "Not a good combination for a girl wishing to remain a virgin"?
** Seconded. She would have remained a virgin if she wished to whatever her characteristics are; unless somebody raped her of course. Your wording almost makes it sound like [[UnfortunateImplications rape would be a natural consequence of this girl's characteristics]], which is very disturbing.

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* Lavender Brown - debate on whether she died in the book ''and'' the film aside, she was pretty and very, ''very'' very clingy - not a good combination for a girl wishing to remain a virgin...if she indeed wanted to remain a virgin, because her behavior says different. Even if she didn't do it and physical with Ron (which everyone assumes she didn't, but the book never explicitly affirms nor denies), her love interest(s). There's a bit of a feel of DidTheyOrDidntThey throughout Book 6 with Ron, and it's hard to imagine never stated that she didn't get her claws into another equally hormone-addled teenage boy in the year-and-change between her and Ron breaking up and her death.
** Possible, but I find the wording of this a bit awkward. "Not a good combination for a girl wishing to remain a virgin"?
** Seconded. She would have remained a virgin
they didn't. And if she wished to whatever her characteristics are; unless somebody raped her of course. Your wording almost makes it sound like [[UnfortunateImplications rape would be a natural consequence of this girl's characteristics]], which is very disturbing.
not with Ron, then maybe with someone else.


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26th Oct '15 5:48:16 AM NhazUl
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** Voldemort didn't need to delude himself into thinking anything. He only cared about Snape as a useful servant and just intended to ThrowTheDogABone, not teach him lessons. Whatever pep talk he had with Snape afterward and his resurrection, he only needed to know if Snape had moved on and didn't regret Lily's death and thus was a loyal Death Eater. Also, it's unlikely that he ever spared a thought for Lily aside from her being Snape's prize.
18th Sep '15 3:31:18 PM LadyEvil
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I believe this partly because Dudley's CharacterDevelopment makes it likely that he became more open to magic, partly because Jo considered having him turn out to have a magical kid (though she decided against it) and partly because it would be hilarious to see Harry find out that his ex-girlfriend married his idiot cousin.

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I believe this partly because Dudley's CharacterDevelopment makes it likely that he became more open to magic, partly because Jo considered having him turn out to have a magical kid (though she decided against it) and partly because it would be hilarious to see Harry find out that his ex-girlfriend married his idiot cousin.cousin.

[[WMG: Lockhart's smile was literally charming.]]
Lockhart cast a spell so that any female with even the barest interest in men would be infatuated with him when he smiled. Which means among all his other false plaudits, he didn't even really deserve the award for "Most Charming Smile" unless you go for a literal definition of "charming". Even while institutionalized and revealed as a fraud, the nurses seem fond of him.
10th Aug '15 9:43:51 PM CJCroen1393
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Mind you, it's very likely he deluded himself into thinking he hadn't intended to, after, even by the point where he talked to Snape.

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Mind you, it's very likely he deluded himself into thinking he hadn't intended to, after, even by the point where he talked to Snape.Snape.

[[WMG: The muggle Cho married was Dudley.]]
I believe this partly because Dudley's CharacterDevelopment makes it likely that he became more open to magic, partly because Jo considered having him turn out to have a magical kid (though she decided against it) and partly because it would be hilarious to see Harry find out that his ex-girlfriend married his idiot cousin.
9th Aug '15 1:35:06 PM Goldfritha
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While her exact age is never given, it's possible that she visited school around Voldemort's time. If that's so, being an ambitious Slytherin, she may have at least wished to join Voldemort's circle. Tom was quite handsome and charming during his school years, and it's easy to imagine Umbridge having such an infatuation which would strongly influence her worldview and career.

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While her exact age is never given, it's possible that she visited school around Voldemort's time. If that's so, being an ambitious Slytherin, she may have at least wished to join Voldemort's circle. Tom was quite handsome and charming during his school years, and it's easy to imagine Umbridge having such an infatuation which would strongly influence her worldview and career.career.

[[WMG: Voldemort intended to let Lily live, to give to Snape.]]
Yes, he says that he talked with Snape, and Snape agreed that they were better women -- but he also said that the conversation was ''after'' she had died. During the actual killing, Voldemort tells her to stand aside. This, from a man who killed a woman and her children because the woman could not tell him where Gregorvitch was, and who seriously considered killing a child in a Halloween costume for ''noticing'' him.

Perhaps he was using the "pure blood" rhetoric for his followers and didn't really believe it himself. Perhaps he contemptuously thought that Snape was reverting to the Muggle side of his family and wanted to throw him a bone to keep him useful. Perhaps he hoped that Snape would find the reality educational, so he would seek a better bride.

Mind you, it's very likely he deluded himself into thinking he hadn't intended to, after, even by the point where he talked to Snape.
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